Hemangiosarcoma Dog Symptoms: What Happens in the Last Days | Dr. Trina Hazzah Q&A
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ธ.ค. 2024
- Sharon’s done a lot for her dog with hemangiosarcoma. (www.dogcancer....) Now he is gagging. Is this the end? Dr. Trina Hazzah, integrative oncologist, makes her best recommendation.
Sharon calls in to our Listener Line with a question. Her corgi’s getting closer to the prognosis timeframe the surgeon predicted for his hemangiosarcoma. Now he’s gagging a few times a day.
Is this the cancer coming back, or invading his lungs? If he’s not eligible for more surgery, what can she do at home?
Dr. Trina Hazzah, integrative oncologist, helps Sharon understand what could be going on with her boy. She makes a couple of very specific recommendations that Sharon can try right away to relieve symptoms.
She also makes a referral to a veterinarian in Sharon’s area who might just be able to help.
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My dog unfortunately passed from this cancer 2 weeks ago. She was so happy and her usual self, and then one day she was acting totally different. Took her to the vet and they said her gums are white and she was internally bleeding so she will need to undergo exploratory surgery to see if its hemangiosarcoma. They opened her up and saw the tumor ruptured and spread all over her internal body. The vet said they cant do anything really once it gets that bad. We had to say bye to her while she was under anesthesia. I miss her so much to this day
RIP daisy 2013-2023
I miss u so much and theres never a day that goes by without me thinking of u
My dog passed from this a couple weeks ago too. I think about him every day. It's so unfair how we found out about it and lost him so soon after. If you need to talk let me know. I know nothing really helps but support is good
My dog just died from this last night. I'm crushed @@jillianasyouwish8013
I’m so sorry to read your story , we just found out last week our pup has this disease 🥲
@@maryc2255 I'm so sorry it's so tough seeing them go through it and you can't do much to help. It sucks I hope they find a cure some day
Just throwing this out there…….I have an 8 year old Whippet, she was diagnosed with Hemangiosarcoma back in October 2021 I was told she might make 6 weeks……That was not an option for me so I put my Whippet on Turkey Tail Mushroom and Fenbendazole after a month of my Daisy girl being on the Fenbendazole the Hemangiosarcoma tumors over 40 visible the size of a small blood bag and golf balls started to shrink / disappear. Now the larger golf ball size tumors are the size of Double OO buck shot getting smaller by the day.
That’s amazing! Where can I buy that??? My dog might have this so I’m looking at every option to save him!
Thank you. I just heard my Ellie’s diagnosis yesterday and was going to research natural options. Got a few spots on my property I harvest from and thankfully my stock isn’t too awful low.. Can’t wait to see em again later this year.. again thank you so! Any other recommendations? I understand herbal remedies for dogs is much different than that of humans. It’s good to hear that fungal ally can be used 😄
Could you please share the dosage per pound you used for Fenbendazole?
Where do can I get these products?
@@rockyrocko300 Amazon
This was an extremely helpful response. Wow. Thank you Dr. Hazzah. Useful information for all of us with dogs in similar situations.
I’ve had many dogs in my life, and most of them lived very long lives. But in recent years, I lost TWO beloved dogs to hemangiosarcoma. First was my 10 year Dutch Shepherd; she’d been off her food, and the vet treated the superficial symptoms. One night, her spleen simply ruptured. We took her to the emergency vet to be put down. A big loss. Then our dearest Yellow Lab, who loved every moment of her 13+ life, went off her food. The vet found the malignant spleen almost immediately, and it was spreading. They said they could extend her life a few months with surgery and chemo. I said, let’s just put her down peacefully right now. The vets subsequently told me that they’re seeing many more cases of hemangio. I haven’t used fertilizer or herbicide on my property in 40 years, and I use a premium brand of food.
I just lost my precious boy at only 9, so unexpected. I now look back and see there were subtle signs that I had attributed to other things. Like occasional gag, chewing his feet with nothing to be found (thought it just allergies) I just didn't know to connect the dots. In trying to find answers I saw that veterinary researchers in NC had found that there is a link to Bartonella spread by fleas in these cancers. So it could be an uncaught parasitic bacteria causing a lot of it......I don't use fertilizer or herbacides either, though so many neighbors do........I wish they made ultrasounds a standard part of regular vet check ups. He had just had his yearly by an experienced vet, been given a clean bill of health and full blood panel (for an upcoming dental) and even his abdomen palpited and nothing caught...said he looked good. Then suddenly he is bleeding to death in front of me and they are telling me his spleen is the size of a grapefruit. I am still in shock.
Also to add, we live in the south where fleas pop up every year, but we always treat for it right away so have never had any kind of infestation. I read ticks could be a transmitter too, but it's not been officially linked. Here in the woodsy south it is normal to find a tick now and then on dogs or people and we always try to stay on top of everything right away. He was a rescued puppy and spent his first months as a feral living in a cow pasture alone with cows, next to where I used to work. Nobody could get near him but me and my coworkers finallly helped me catch him. His breed was dalmation-blue heeler mix, my sweet goofy eared boy. I am shattered.
I am so sorry for everyone's devastating losses I am reading in trying to find out why this happened.
@@kaia_b I am sorry to hear this. It’s a terrible loss. It is similar to pancreatic cancer in humans; once you are diagnosed, it’s over very quickly. There were no warning signs with my Lab. She had pancreatitis many months before, recovered, and was then fine. Her death came so suddenly. There WERE warning signs with my Shepherd, but I didn’t understand. She enjoyed belly-rubs, and one day I asked my adult son, why is her whole stomach red? And then she would just find a sofa to nap, and not want to be bothered. But I only put the pieces of the puzzle together in hindsight. I had MANY dogs before them, and I’d never heard of hemangio, and none of the dogs died with those symptoms. It was just old age, and they faded out.
Is fertilizer and herbasides an big cause of this I dip my dog n mange dip had bad reaction now leaning on this more I read an research 3defer vets none had same answer an come find out didn't need to do that dip any dam way ant recovered from it 4 months later. Bad felling knowing you coused this to your little buddy😢 as you followed vets advice dam dam dam😭
@@kaia_bthere may be something to this I’ve read about this before with fleas and ticks being transmitters in other studies.
Thanks so much for this helpful, podcast. As a full time R+ trainer/behavior consultant, I've not only been through HSA with one of my own beloved dogs, I've loved so many client families afflicted with the same cancer. I appreciate this resource so much as something to share with them! Peace & Paws, lisa
Thank you so much for weighing in!
My dog had that gag. We fed her 3x a day. Two times a regular meal. Then at 11:00pm a much smaller meal and the gag and bile went away.
My Bella was dead before get Doctor. it was really fast. Died my into my arms
We're so sorry. Hemangiosarcoma can really go fast.
One of my dogs died last year due to having a rare form of cancer
Lost my dog at the weekend. She went downhill as lungs filling up with fluid which was drained. Tumour in and around heart. Wanted to bring her back and do treatment myself. Vet said he couldn’t offer her palliative care as diuretics or other things but I read that diuretics do work for drainage but he said it would make her more ill, losing electrolytes etc. It was too costly for chest drain to be fitted. I am just thinking whether I could have saved her with home treatments etc. So horrible, or could it have been too late for even that
So sorry for your loss. Please set aside your worries. It's part of grieving to think "what if" and go through all the things that you DIDN'T do and think that maybe you should have done them. It's the "bargaining" stage of grieving. But just because you are thinking those thoughts doesn't make them real or true. It sounds like you did absolutely everything you could, and then you trusted your veterinarian when they said that the palliative care wouldn't offer enough relief. Imagine if you had done those other things, and your dog still suffered? You would be just as devastated. Losing a dog is so hard, but we can tell you did everything possible. Go easy on yourself.
@@DogCancer thank you. I just wanted the vet to stabilise her enough for me to take her home and get the fluid removed and begin natural therapy to improve things. I need to call him and the vet nurse to talk things through as he said I could as I’m in torment and painful grief 🥲
@@oscarcat1231 it can be helpful to talk things through. Ask them if they think that would have been helpful to your dog, or just prolonged the suffering. Warm aloha to you.
Hello from mexico . In your experience. My dog had a spleen cirgury removal tumor which was hemangiosarcoma my dog is 9 years old her mood is fantastic but now when dr checked her heart she has a mass inside the heart. My question is how much do you recommend quiomiotherapy for her?
We're so sorry to hear about your dog
Thank you so much for reply
Currently dealing with this right now with my friend’s 10 year old dog (lowchen/lhasa apso mixed breed). Unfortunately, ultrasound shows spleen tumor and cancer already spread to liver, abdomen and surgery isn’t recommended anymore. He is on anti nausea and appetite meds and I have watched your videos and want to offer cruciferous veggies, mushrooms, etc but he would barely eat anything anymore. I want to be positive but if he isn’t anything anymore, I don’t know what can be done anymore.
We're so sorry to hear about your friend's pup. Here's a recent episode on how to help a dog eat, in case there are ideas you haven't tried yet: th-cam.com/video/VWVfBhf4gD0/w-d-xo.html
Please if anyone sees this. What is 2/3 of a liver covered with a tumor survivability? My dog is a pitbull boxer mix and she's about 13 years old. Please asap tell me if you have any clue...
My dog just had his spleen removed because of a large mass, I'm now waiting to see if its cancerous. My vet told me even though its removed if its cancerous, he'll only have 3-6 months to live. So now we wait.
I'm from Jersey too and 10 minutes away from Red Bank animal hospital. So ty for the info about the doc there.
Best of luck to you Joanna, and don't forget to get a copy of Dr. Dressler's book -- it really is your best resource and will have tons of great advice. So glad you're near Dr. Kendra Pope!
@@DogCancer ty. I will. Yes, when I heard Red Bank I was happy to know she's nearby if the need arises.
Good news!! Got the pathology results yesterday, its not cancer, it was a splenic hematoma. Idk how or why he got it, but he's back to being his cheerful, playful self.
Did he have metastasis?
@@michelleolop no, it was a contained tumor with No cancer.
My dog has a 10 inch tumor in spleen .I decided to let nature s way .started oct 24 hes still here grown slowly from 6 inches to 10 inches over a yr still hear .he's still eats but how he's here I don't know the vet says the same .he gets cbd 2x mixed herbs .Turkey tail mushroom .1x pracertomal bed time .little milk thistle. Veg mince fish
You might find they would live longer without as my has ..there been days going to put him down and decided not then bouncers back again for 3 weeks then my have a pooly spell.so on
My dog 13 plus been very healthy but 3 yrs ago had spindle cancer in leg .but now has the spleen tumor .operations are not my options on old dogs I think let nature do its job make them comfortable and see.
My 12.5 year old dog suddenly died for this. maybe in 2 hours. :(
We are so sad to hear that. An all-too-common story when it comes to hemangiosarcoma. We are thinking of you and your family
@@DogCancer thanks, thats unbelieve, dog was fine then suddenly dead. died to the stairwell
@@heenga just happened to my 12 year old dog too. He collapsed right at the bottom of the stairs and wouldn’t get up. Had to have him euthanized yesterday and it broke my heart. Even in his last fraille moments in this life he was looking me in the eyes.
@@jayzayproductions5454sorry
@@jayzayproductions5454 I did not have time to euthanized, all happened so fast :(. she was dead before we went doctor.
The first dog who survived it: lily
Il mio rottweiler di 6 anni è morto in atroci sofferenze dopo operato il giorno dopo...grazie ai veterinari di Codroipo ud
They could live yr with cancer using the right foods
Useless. Thanks for the plugs for all the other blogs.
Sorry you didn't like this episode of the podcast. You might find the hemangiosarcoma article on our site more helpful: www.dogcancer.com/articles/types-of-dog-cancer/hemangiosarcoma-in-dogs/