Make Invisible Radiation Become Visible - Peltier Cloud Chamber

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  • We are constantly bathed in a sea of particles of radiation but have no mechanism naturally to detect it. So it goes essentially unnoticed. But using only computer parts and stuff from the dollar store, it's possible to build a machine that can turn this invisible radiation visible and let us see particles come streaming off of radioactive material. That device is a cloud chamber.
    This is a fun one day build if you have the right materials and these devices are mesmerizing to watch as naturally occurring particles zip through the chamber leaving trails of fog in the wake.
    Some more resources:
    Cloudylabs - • Thermoelectric Cloud C...
    Info about radiation - www.world-nuclear.org/nuclear-...
    Another build that uses a single cascaded peltier - www.instructables.com/id/Pelt...
    Materials:
    Peltiers - (100W) www.amazon.ca/TEC1-12710-Ther...
    (60w) www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B008...
    Heatsink - www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-H...
    Thermal paste - www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B008...
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  • @joesouthwell4080
    @joesouthwell4080 5 ปีที่แล้ว +684

    Why the high voltage? Lots of other clouds chambers I've seen didn't use them, but here it seems essential to get the effect.

    • @thethoughtemporium
      @thethoughtemporium  5 ปีที่แล้ว +431

      It's not essential PER SAY, but it makes things way brighter. On review of the footage I saw quite a few tracks when it was off, but the effect is night and day when you turn on the high voltage. I don't have a good reason for why it works as the explanations I've found don't make much sense. SO I just left it out, said it was essential and called it a day, because you'll enjoy the machine more with it on, so why bother turning it off. For an extra 3 dollars it's worth it.

    • @friendlyone2706
      @friendlyone2706 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@thethoughtemporium the only explanation that makes sense to me, at the moment (my opinions are not writ in stone) are those proposed by the electric universe crowd.

    • @TotallyFred
      @TotallyFred 5 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      For what it’s worth, this will make the alpha (helium ions positive ions) and beta particles (electrons) shoot up or down, along a curved trajectory, depending upon the direction and strength of the electric field. Beta particles will go up while alpha will go down, or vice versa (again, depending where ground is). Alpha particles will be mildly displaced as they are much heavier than electrons.
      The magnet will make those same particles spin. Again, alpha particles will be mostly unaffected unless the field is very strong (or you have a very large plate).
      Gamma particles (EM waves) are unaffected by either field and will always shoot in straight line.
      That is how they are differentiated. That is the same principle as used in bubble chambers.
      Not necessary. Just educational.

    • @theterribleanimator1793
      @theterribleanimator1793 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@TotallyFred wait, how are alphas lighter than electrons?

    • @andre9095
      @andre9095 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The Terrible Animator is that what you read? I read explicitly that alpha particles are heavier. Though I can see why somebody saying that would be worth calling out.

  • @ethanjones741
    @ethanjones741 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1276

    "Don't lick Uranium" some quality advise to be fair

    • @thethoughtemporium
      @thethoughtemporium  5 ปีที่แล้ว +184

      It's on the list of "things you didn't think you needed to say, but here we are, having to say it"

    • @johnpossum556
      @johnpossum556 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The waterjet channel will not obey.

    • @crackedemerald4930
      @crackedemerald4930 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Quality meme

    • @GigsVT
      @GigsVT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@thethoughtemporium I have put uranium glass marbles in my mouth before to demonstrate to people who were scared of them. Honestly, its not like they are leeching uranium or anything, not at any appreciable rate. Now your chunk of americium IS scary to me. I've never had the guts to expose one that far.

    • @Assault_Butter_Knife
      @Assault_Butter_Knife 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Words to live by

  • @Pyriphlegeton
    @Pyriphlegeton 5 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    It's amazing how you make serious science easily accessible.
    Thank you.

  • @robertlunsford1350
    @robertlunsford1350 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    We use teds and pelier devices at work for reagent and reaction cooling. I can tell you from actual research data, you do not want to smear thermal compound on these things. Use as little as possible for good contact. I apply a thin layer to both sides then scrape it off with a plastic scraper. Excess coupound makes the thermal joint inefficient and can actually short out you peltier.

  • @zacharywilson8639
    @zacharywilson8639 5 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    You're quickly becoming my favorite youtube channel. You actually do the experiments that I've always talked about doing. I'm so appreciative of the inspiration and confidence you provide to actually just go buy the materials and do it.

    • @michaelclark4876
      @michaelclark4876 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a molecular biologist who also has wide ranging scientific interests, I'm very pleased to see the mix of well done bioscience, physics, chemistry and DIY apparatus builds. This combination of breadth and depth are not often seen together. And many of his apparatus builds are extraordinary. I am seriously going to have to try to mod the scope in my home lab for fluorescence!

  • @Napert
    @Napert 5 ปีที่แล้ว +485

    i think you just triggered every pc enthusiast watching your videos with the thermal paste application/waste

    • @BluestemGlade
      @BluestemGlade 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Thought the exact same haha

    • @goldenfox334
      @goldenfox334 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Well for a good reason too. Thermal compounds act as insulation in large amounts like that. It tells you that on their data sheets not to use it like exsive amounts or it could result in over heating.

    • @Napert
      @Napert 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@goldenfox334 but a thermal pase is supposed to be thermally conductive??? Like do what it's supposed to do, you know, TRANSFER HEAT???

    • @roidroid
      @roidroid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      using a large amount isn't a problem, since the 2 contact surfaces are typically clamped together. Any excess paste is squeezed out the sides by the clamping force.
      I'd expect it to get more viscous when heated - which might be why some people do a "burn in" cycle after installing a heatsink: To help thin the paste so the clamping force can squeeze more of it away & bring the mating surfaces even closer together.
      If you're using the thermal compound to conduct *cold temperatures* - then yeah that's indeed an interesting problem, it could make it less viscous. So you might thus want to be conservative with your paste application, and use a lot of clamping force.

    • @roidroid
      @roidroid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Steven, modern thermal pastes are not electrically conductive.

  • @josephvanas6352
    @josephvanas6352 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I am a health physics tech and it always makes me happy to encounter someone who doesnt sensationalize radiation. That being said the lead foil is a bit overkill for shielding those sources I would be more worried about contamination controls at that point. Get yourself a watertight tupperware container with the rubber gasket under the lid, poly will shield all alpha and most beta. However, the lead wont hurt anything unless you have enough beta to worry about bremsstrahlung. Either way cool video I look forward to seeing more!

    • @michaelclark4876
      @michaelclark4876 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly. The lead is really only needed for blocking gamma radiation, and gamma emitters aren't the isotopes one wants for cloud chambers since photons don't produce tracks. I worked with a lot of P-32 (high energy, very strong beta emitter) as a grad student and the standard shields we used were acrylic plastic and seal-a-meal bags of water. Plastic is actually a great shield for beta particles and doesn't produce bremsstrahlung x-rays the way that lead will. Ingestion is really the major danger from most beta emitters, and is the significant health danger from alpha emitters.
      I'm looking forward to see how things go when you try to add magnets. I keep seeing references to it being hard to get enough field strength for making betas and positrons spiral in basic cloud chambers, but I haven't been able to find any information on exactly what field strength to aim for. Let alone whether neodymium magnets or a big electromagnet is the way to get it.

  • @celivalg
    @celivalg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    don't lick uranium? you should have said that before I ...

  • @MrRolnicek
    @MrRolnicek 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Man, I'm so happy that you want to disperse nuclear paranoia.
    I was always super excited about nuclear (not only does it save the planet it's SUPER COOL while doing it).
    And recently discovered what Elysium Industries is planning on doing which just reignited and amplified my excitement about nuclear all over again and convinced me that molten salt reactors are WAAAY closer to everyday use than they seemed to be previously.

    • @retovath
      @retovath 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not in love with the molten chloride fast reactors. Chlorine has 2 isotopes that are reasonably usable in a molten salt reactor, but neither is capable of supporting a thorium based reactor. Thorium based tech is really what could save the earth and transform our society into an engineering society.

    • @MrRolnicek
      @MrRolnicek 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@retovath That's what FLiBe salts will do. Those are expensive, there are political concerns, Hastalloy needs to be first licensed for nuclear use and most importantly it WILL need in-line chemical processing before it's economically viable. Thorium is certainly the future but it has a long way to go.
      What Elysium is proposing is a freaking trash can that makes 36 times as much energy from waste than what was produced from the pure product before it turned into waste. And as far as I've seen they can have the power plant running within a year if they get the nod.
      And there is PLENTY of Uranium everywhere ... even if you want to get it out of the sea for twice the cost you're still MUCH more cost effective than current nuclear reactors.

    • @retovath
      @retovath 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrRolnicek MrRolnicek there are chemistry issues regarding the steels and chloride fuel salts. It's called a chlorine iron fire. Any chemical fuel salt is going to need a specialized alloy to deal with the possibility of corrosion reactions. This doubly applies to the MCFR design, as that material also has to be qualified to operate in a high flux fast neutron environment. Afaik, there is only one reactor that can qualify materials like that. It belongs to Russia. The US has another in development, but it's not yet ready.
      Truth be told any 4th gen nuke is great in my book, but I do play favorites with designs.

    • @MrRolnicek
      @MrRolnicek 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@retovath Corrosion reactions? How can you get corrosion without oxygen or water or other oxygen containing molecules? Or are you talking about some other reaction?

    • @AlexiLaiho227
      @AlexiLaiho227 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      man, what a coincidence, I've been talking to Ed Pheil of Elysium online recently

  • @MuradBeybalaev
    @MuradBeybalaev 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    4:32 A squad of thermal paste application experts is closing in on your location.
    To be fair, you actually want it all to be in one blob as to avoid trapping air.

    • @triton6490
      @triton6490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lmfao

    • @QwertyBuoy
      @QwertyBuoy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i literally came here to write that, but i saw your comment lmfao this dude acts like he knows everything about controlling temps, doesn't even realize the biggest flaw of his setup is the way he applied the paste. he probably would have only needed 2 of those pad things that get cold, id say the name but im too lazy to type out the long name lol but you get my point im sure

    • @MuradBeybalaev
      @MuradBeybalaev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@QwertyBuoy Please don't mistake composed style of presentation for pretending to be all-knowing. He's trying his best and don't we all make mistakes…
      Anyway, unlike the aforementioned squad, I'm not convinced this is "the *biggest* flaw" and make-or-break crux of the whole operation…
      But yes, air is more thermally capacitive rather than conductive.

    • @QwertyBuoy
      @QwertyBuoy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MuradBeybalaev half my statement was sarcasm lol the part where i was serious (ish) was when i humorously said "the biggest flaw" making fun of the fact that if he properly applied paste, he wouldn't have needed 3 of those cooling pads lol but thanks for informing me, ill appreciate that :P

    • @Cryo_Gen
      @Cryo_Gen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@QwertyBuoy he almost certainly would have needed 3. These peltiers are not that effective as a heat pump unless you stack multiple of them, and even then it's diminishing returns.

  • @AnythingMike
    @AnythingMike 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been watching your videos, and I can't stop but think, if you were some old professor with white hair growing all over your face, the Pulitzer would have recognized you and give you an award for most of your breakthroughs.

  • @_rn_3861
    @_rn_3861 5 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    step 1: open your eyes
    step 2: see visible light
    step3: ???
    profit

    • @mephistovonfaust
      @mephistovonfaust 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Calzone Step 3: Make a YT video about it.

    • @_rn_3861
      @_rn_3861 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mephistovonfaust idk id maybe do IT someday

    • @mephistovonfaust
      @mephistovonfaust 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@_rn_3861 Well... Thought Emporium already did

    • @crewcut
      @crewcut 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey you, you're finally awake. You were trying to cross the border, right? Walked right into that Imperial ambush, same as us, and that thief over there.

    • @theobserver314
      @theobserver314 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Step 3" should be...
      " Don't lick Uranium!"

  • @D1GItAL_CVTS
    @D1GItAL_CVTS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Ahh, Cold Plate
    My favorite band!

  • @Andres186000
    @Andres186000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    clever use of a peltier plate, more sustainable than dry ice

  • @Kombivar
    @Kombivar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A few years ago as the expression of gratitude, I build one for my physics teacher who has a PhD in radioactive stuff, it was firmly based on your video and she absolutely love it. We spoke a few days ago and she still brings it to her class and blasts it with gamma emitter, prior to that she had to borrow one from the science council but now she has on her own. I enclosed the power supply and wires in wood, and added the array of SPST toggle switches with guards for every electric subsystem to run (PC power supply on, the peltier device, high voltage etc.). She said that the moment she looked at it for a first time she thought it's been made by Rick Sanchez. I wouldn't be able to pull this project without your help, and big thanks for the bug zapper idea!

  • @r3drumg33k3
    @r3drumg33k3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You did a better job explaining peltier stacking than ANY computer channel ever has, Linus's crew couldn't figure this out. Love the information on your channel, so so broad yet so very acurate.

  • @peytonpanos7026
    @peytonpanos7026 5 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I have managed to setup my oyster mushroom production facilities. Almost exclusively inspired by your eccelent video.
    Thank you

    • @parishna4882
      @parishna4882 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shitake or the fun stuff?
      Man, imagine oysters that make you trip.. You're a genius !!

  • @juliosunga3530
    @juliosunga3530 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    would be interesting to encase Chernobyl reactor 4 in one gigantic cloud chamber.

    • @werlder
      @werlder 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It would look like thousands of jets flew by and made condensation trails lol.

    • @tafsirnahian669
      @tafsirnahian669 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      3.6 rontzen will do shit

  • @consciousenergies
    @consciousenergies 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep up the great work Justin! I am working on Monetary stuff and I will be back at it. Glad to see you persevering and doing what you love my friend.

  • @KX36
    @KX36 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    So just to be sure, DO or DON'T lick uranium?

    • @constantprayerwarrior
      @constantprayerwarrior 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yes

    • @emilschurr7533
      @emilschurr7533 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's normally super safe to handle, unless you break it
      or
      lick uranium

    • @kokoilie
      @kokoilie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      as a non professional to be completely safe just don't be in hands reach of any of that stuff

    • @osamabinladen4613
      @osamabinladen4613 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do

    • @Blueknight1960
      @Blueknight1960 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't lick uranium but eating a tide pod is ok.

  • @maxmick1376
    @maxmick1376 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video as always, just want to let you know that i greatly enjoy your videos and always learn something new! Keep up the excellent work!
    Cheers,

  • @WangleLine
    @WangleLine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This channel is super underrated

  • @DylanODonnell
    @DylanODonnell 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant .. I’ve been wanting to do this for ages as I live somewhere where dry ice is scarce too. Thanks!

  • @rafaelthetall
    @rafaelthetall 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you gained my inscription with the part of nuclear can save the world.

  • @rosennachev9864
    @rosennachev9864 5 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    If you want to put the thermal paste better.
    Place a single blob in the middle and let it spread so it dose not trap bubbles.

    • @Sevendogtags
      @Sevendogtags 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Eh, that's not really an issue for an experiment like this.

    • @rosennachev9864
      @rosennachev9864 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Sevendogtags 4:35 "the better job you do the better this will work" Eh, he said it :D

    • @Sevendogtags
      @Sevendogtags 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1 or 2 Celsius isn't going to be game changing here.

    • @rosennachev9864
      @rosennachev9864 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Sevendogtags Yes and using the silver stuff is an overkill. Your point?

    • @Sevendogtags
      @Sevendogtags 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not every dark thermal paste has metal in it. That's probably some cheap TP. My point was clear, the application of TP was fine and a better application would be irrelevant to the scope of this experiment.

  • @superdupergrover9857
    @superdupergrover9857 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thoriated tungsten electrodes are used in welding because the radiation from the thorium ionizes the shielding gas and makes the electric arc easier to strike. While still quite common, it is not used as often as it used to be. Back in the day, the welding machines were not sophisticated and it was difficult to strike an arc properly. Also, tungsten alloys have higher heat resistance than pure tungsten and the thoriated alloys were the first ones commonly available. This, and there is the modern perceived risk from the radiation. Yes, the risk is not zero, but I would be more worried about the tungsten poisoning than the radiation, but unless you are inhaling or ingesting electrode dust, (which you won't 'cause you aren't welding) the risk is practically zero.
    If you have a welding shop in town, specifically one with an old guy in it, ask around for some thoriated electrode ends. You see, as the electrode wears from use and sharpening, it gets shorter and shorter until it is too short to be held in the gun, just like a pencil. The kind of welding that uses these electrodes is called "TIG" welding, which is more common in high end production, such as a fab(rication) shops, aerospace manufacturing, high end custom car or racing shops. Thoriated electrodes tend to be used by old timers as that is what they learned with, and nothing else is meaningfully better anyway.

  • @joecichlid
    @joecichlid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As someone that collects and restores old Coleman lanterns and lamps, I have a stash of the older mantels made with thorium. I would love to give this a try sometime! I also do a lot of shopping in antique malls and estate sales so uranium glass is easy to come by. I will say that I wasn't aware that the older Fiesta Ware used a radioactive glaze. I will be careful with that stuff.

  • @FernandoDordete
    @FernandoDordete 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, I love this kind of project about radiation. I saw one (very large) of these chambers in a museum when I was a kid and always wonder how it works and if it was possible to make on my own. Can't wait for the other videos.

  • @littleloner1159
    @littleloner1159 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My school did that in small fish tank size for the whole 7th(maybe 8th) grade, it was amazing.
    They projected it on the wall and wow. Wow. You totally forgot what you were actually watching bc it was SO PRETTY
    What you're doing seems so much more complicated but maybe that's why 3 science teachers set it up

  • @j0anbug
    @j0anbug 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    combating nuclear energy fear mongering and saying it's the only way to save the Earth from a slow painful death? you just got a new subscriber my good man

    • @MagnetechSolidSolutions
      @MagnetechSolidSolutions 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It really is the only clean energy within our grasp. We need to further the technology and manage its waste. Idea(put it back where you got it from)

    • @taylorwestmore4664
      @taylorwestmore4664 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MagnetechSolidSolutions I want to see the off shore Thorium salt reactor ship get good publicity so we can employ them as power plants which can transmute/consume the nuclear waste products of Uranium plants through the Thorium fuel cycle. Turn all that waste and turn it into more fuel!

  • @mystamo
    @mystamo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry for the bombardment of comments. I failed to also point out how awesome this video is. I recall an Ontario circucullim txt book for physics having a picture on the cover that must have been from a cloud chamber. I asked a teacher about it. But of course they know nothing and were not able to tell me what it was capturing. Fast forward 17 years. Thanks TE and TH-cam.

  • @secnep
    @secnep 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been subscribed to you but found this video after watching a recommended video and searching "visualizing radioactivity". I've always seen radioactivity portrayed as this magical thing, and nobody ever seems to explain it. ty

  • @alkis_al
    @alkis_al 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    this reminded me of Cody from cody'slab and his huge box of radioactive material

    • @johnpossum556
      @johnpossum556 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I was just thinking "He's the new, safer Cody."

    • @mattiasfagerlund
      @mattiasfagerlund 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      And Cody had a visit from the authorities...

    • @johnpossum556
      @johnpossum556 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mattiasfagerlund Yeah, I wonder if that was the thing that scared away Canyon. Funny to see her in her latest video because I think it's the first time I've seen her with makeup on. She's very pretty.

    • @cowboy_k3147
      @cowboy_k3147 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnpossum556 hol up... Cody bought a canyon and then his old canyon left him... oof F's in the chat

    • @bernardo00124719
      @bernardo00124719 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattiasfagerlund yeah hes so naive.

  • @AlexDanut
    @AlexDanut 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    6:44 "I just use some black felt as my pad" haven't heard that one since middle school

    • @tl.4184
      @tl.4184 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dying🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @palegenesis6146
    @palegenesis6146 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love your safety advice, it's so casual and jokey compared to the intensity of some other sciency folks

  • @illicitsolitude7727
    @illicitsolitude7727 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats so cool! We build one in school with 15 of these Peltier-Elements and a surface of an A4 sheet. (-35°C) It worked way better than we expected. (even catching a ton of cosmic rays)
    Your Collection of Radioactives seems decent, i'm looking forward for your future vids!

  • @psun256
    @psun256 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thought Emporium: 'never take a smoke detector apart.'
    Me: oopsie doopsie?

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If they're the cheap light dispersion type rather than ionisation smoke detectors, go ahead and take them apart, no problem.

    • @jamesluck2969
      @jamesluck2969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or you can buy the isotope chamber on ebay. Cheap source of Am 241

    • @vivimannequin
      @vivimannequin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have two pieces of americium

    • @hivemind5281
      @hivemind5281 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vivimannequin that is something I didn't know I wanted to see

    • @hivemind5281
      @hivemind5281 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vivimannequin please show me that

  • @crackedemerald4930
    @crackedemerald4930 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I ain't no pc enthusiast, but you built your peltier thing like you build a sandwich

  • @nightrous3026
    @nightrous3026 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive wanted one of these for a while. Your build looks really good.

  • @JakeBiddlecome
    @JakeBiddlecome 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the coolest thing I've seen since the Falcon Heavy first flew. Love this video - thanks for sharing!

  • @Beep_Beeps
    @Beep_Beeps 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Be safe, don't lick uranium and don't touch the cold bit while the machine is running" Advice for life I guess.

  • @mininudoalem7950
    @mininudoalem7950 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Cryogenic temperatures, high voltage and radioactive material? Seems safe to me

  • @uwezimmermann5427
    @uwezimmermann5427 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice design - I had planned something like this forever, but now I got some good ideas. You should be able to get a continuous alcohol circulation if you try to make a capillary connection between the liquefied alcohol at the bottom back to the reservoir at the top...

  • @Zanthum
    @Zanthum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Live in the US here and I have only seen dry ice at the grocery store once, around Halloween around a decade ago. If I recall I think you can also get dry ice from a welding supply shop. I know you can get liquid co2 but I don't specifically remember dry ice.

  • @GerVlad
    @GerVlad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    If you drink enough Vodka, you can see the radiation around Chernobyl

    • @zoedaemon4940
      @zoedaemon4940 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's too obvious...😂

    • @michaelclark4876
      @michaelclark4876 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you drink enough vodka you can see damn near anything.

    • @enderboy123me
      @enderboy123me 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree comrade, you see the lights too Da?

    • @GerVlad
      @GerVlad 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@enderboy123me zvychayno!

  • @sacation6057
    @sacation6057 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey Justin,
    Just some note on your poster on teespring "measuring plancks constant". You misspelled one of the words in the topleft section. I've unfortunately realized this after ordering, but for the future buyers maybe good to change it?

  • @paintskate610
    @paintskate610 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these videos so interesting to watch and so educational. Even though I have no idea what he’s taking about half the time still very cool.

  • @salsaman4374
    @salsaman4374 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have the link for (60w) also as thermal paste btw. Keep up the good work, you're quickly becoming one of my favorite TH-camrs.

  • @Rob-vv5yn
    @Rob-vv5yn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    At about 14 minutes he says don’t lick the uranium doh oh no now he tells me LOL

  • @diegobujanos5657
    @diegobujanos5657 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nice video, To improve the dissipation I would not use that type of heatsink with heat pipes in that configuration, these work with a liquid inside, and the way you have it arranged the liquid is in the bottom (without direct contact to the source of heat) so when the heat reaches the alcohol it evaporates and and dissipates in the heat source, those heatsinks work better if the heat source is in bottom, I love your chanel

    • @RobertSzasz
      @RobertSzasz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those pipes have channels or a porous fill that wicks liquid so it covers the entire inner surface. Proper orientation makes them a bit more efficient, but they will still work.

    • @djosearth3618
      @djosearth3618 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This shoujld work great copper+surface area

  • @Deathbynature89
    @Deathbynature89 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this. Imagine having a big one as a coffee table in a cafe or bar. I know it sound dumb but what a cool art piece and conversation starter.

    • @UNSCPILOT
      @UNSCPILOT 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      A bit of a beast to run unless the glass is double glazed and everything that doesn't need airflow is insulated to high heck.
      That said it would be cool as heck, even a side table sized one would be awesome

  • @trey1531
    @trey1531 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I thought I had broad interests in science... Your channel blows my mind every time! Facinating

  • @idontwantachannelimjustcom7745
    @idontwantachannelimjustcom7745 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That should be a shirt. "Dont lick uranium"

  • @anteshell
    @anteshell 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Please, watch some tutorials where they teach you how to apply thermal compound. The way you did it, makes it very inefficient to transfer heat. There's way too bulky layer of the compund and also air bubble due to how you applied it.

    • @Sevendogtags
      @Sevendogtags 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No, it really doesn't make much difference. Maybe 1-2C. There's plenty videos where it is demonstrated that over use of thermal paste does not make as dramatic of a difference as most people think.

    • @goldenfox334
      @goldenfox334 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Sevendogtags it actually does. Pluse he doesnt have this under 200lbs of force pushing those plates together. This is a horrible way to apply it and exstreamly wasteful. Hell you could have used a credit card to apply it evenly. Those air pockets well also causes less heat transfer because air isnt as good as a conducter of heat as that artic silver is. Im not hating on him for it but he needs to understand and do 5 minutes of google searching or just read the side of the tube on how too properly apply it. Even if its not a cpu, use the paste the same way as you would for one.

    • @thethoughtemporium
      @thethoughtemporium  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ^what he said. ALSO it got to temp. So it literally doesn't matter. Getting beyond -26 is really all that's needed, I just shot for a few degrees past so I had some buffer. But the system has no issue getting to temp within about a minute or two. Also, I chose silver based thermal compound for a reason. It's very good at conducting the heat even with a bit of uneven-ness.

    • @edwardpaulsen1074
      @edwardpaulsen1074 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What you all seem to be missing is the question "What is the application?" He is not attempting to keep a CPU cool to prevent it from burning up or going into thermal throttling... he is using it as an easily permeable thermal layer to let the peltier devices work better... there was no "absolute need" for optimal thermal conductivity since he was easily able to reach the desired target temperatures and was not fighting against a virtual furnace driving the temperature up... while you may be correct for the heat based application you are describing, it doesn't mean much at all for what he was doing and your snarky commentary proves that you actually have less of a clue than you think you do... It's like saying that *THIS WAY* is the optimum and only way to cook and eat a burger and therefore must *ALWAYS* be done this way, even if it is actually a hot dog one is making... Let those who have studied and practiced science deal with the science rather than being a video watching armchair computer technician giving unasked for advice based on a different field or IT.

    • @anteshell
      @anteshell 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thethoughtemporium You are absolutely right about the required temp and that in this use case the badly applied thermal paste didn't really matter. However you have absolutely wrong way to think about this.
      To control the temperature you have to use methods that you can actually control. That is the applied power in the cooling pads in this case. The air pockets in the thermal compound that you have no way to contol of is absolutely wrong way to add any variables to the experiment regardless of the use case.

  • @aaroninman7370
    @aaroninman7370 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video spooked me a little. This build is awesome

  • @Cythil
    @Cythil 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember we building one of these at school. Though we used dry ice for ours. Dry ice is not really something you buy from you local store however so I was interested in your solution that used a Peltier device. I find the Peltier device pretty interesting. This did not disappoint. ^_^

  • @justus1995
    @justus1995 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    just ask Cody´s Lab what goverment agencies might get really interested in your personal radioactive collection

    • @thethoughtemporium
      @thethoughtemporium  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't plan on extracting and purifying uranium, so I should be fine.

    • @Zahlenteufel1
      @Zahlenteufel1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thethoughtemporium Also no jokes about building nuclear bombs I suppose

  • @shoeman256
    @shoeman256 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Amazing, maybe do talk about cosmic rays. Could you do a video about aerospike engines?

  • @PPYTAO
    @PPYTAO 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing! So cool. I had never heard of these before. Thanks!

  • @grey1wa
    @grey1wa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So Don't lick the Thorium rods, and don't touch the cold bit... but you NEVER said we couldn't lick the cold bit! haha great Video.. I'm looking forward to the rest of this series

    • @BrilliantDesignOnline
      @BrilliantDesignOnline 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He forgot not everyone is Canadian, and does not have experience licking cold playground equipment :-)

  • @edg6779
    @edg6779 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The best way to get thorium is the mineral thorite, you can buy thorite crystals online

  • @Luzgar
    @Luzgar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    The junkiest thing to ever combine radioactivity, cryogenic temperature, flammable gas and high voltage.

  • @asciisynth
    @asciisynth 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really nice build. I tried to build something similar a few years ago but couldn't get the peltier cells cold enough. I'm in the UK, so dry ice is hard to come by. Also I like that you can run this for as long as you like.

  • @anthonyvolkman2338
    @anthonyvolkman2338 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well done! I have about 6 of those Americium241 pellets, ive been researching nuclear amd fusion energy for years. Yes I have the Americium 241 in a full lead box.

  • @online247365
    @online247365 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “If I can do my part to show it's not as scary as it's made out to be, great." Thank you for helping stop the feelings-based fear mongering vis-a-vis nuclear energy production!

  • @jmonsted
    @jmonsted 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "The same cheap peltier cooling units that you use to keep your CPU cool" - I've built datacenters for 17 years and PCs for even longer and i've never once seen a peltier device *anywhere* in the stack of cooling devices.

    • @banguseater
      @banguseater 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      also the fact he applied too much thermal paste probably states the fact he probably has never built a PC

    • @lovotcore6946
      @lovotcore6946 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are also hilariously inefficient, like 13% efficient, so they generate WAY more heat then they move from the cold side to the hot side, this means a very high wattage peltier and a massive heat-sink would be necessary to cool an overclocked gaming CPU, which is the only reason you would want to supercool a CPU anyway. A more normal refrigeration system is usually used for this purpose since it's several times more efficient, and it's much easier to get rid of the heat, a sterling cooler would also work since it's also several times more efficient, and better at producing large temperature differentials, but useful sterlings are much harder to get than a refrigeration compressor, so.

    • @CyanOgilvie
      @CyanOgilvie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were actually used back in the day for a few years, around the Pentium 1 days. They were called "ice caps"

  • @MagisterMalleus
    @MagisterMalleus 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how retrofuturistic the thing looks with the cooling apparatus. I don't know if there's a term for the nuclear version of cyberpunk (atompunk?) but devices like this have it in spades.

    • @krashd
      @krashd 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Atompunk is the nuclear derivative of cyberpunk and steampunk.

  • @paulmoir4452
    @paulmoir4452 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks, I've always wanted to build one of these too. FWIW my local Air Liquide Canada Store sells dry ice pellets for media blasting to anyone walking in off the street. For a small cooler full it's around $25-$40. Sometimes cheaper on Friday since it won't last. I'm sure there's better prices out there but you should find at least one welding place selling it in any medium sized industrial park carrying it.

  • @ObjectsInMotion
    @ObjectsInMotion 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    MAKE INVISIBLE RADIATION VISIBLE AGAIN!!!

  • @Baleur
    @Baleur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    5 minutes in. Me: _"w.... cool but.. wh... whats a .... whats a "peltier"?"_

  • @rguitar78
    @rguitar78 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great delivery, easy to understand and fascinating topic.

  • @agentgreengnome
    @agentgreengnome 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is weird. I've been gearing up to make cloud chamber with four parallel Peltier double stacks. Cooled by a big water cooling loop. I'm hoping to get an active area around 150mm diameter.
    I love your channel, keep the mad science going!! I can't wait to see more of the radioactivity series.

  • @MrRishik123
    @MrRishik123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    lowkey triggered you didnt put a banana piece into the cloud chamber.

    • @UNSCPILOT
      @UNSCPILOT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wouldn't want to make people more paranoid

    • @MrRishik123
      @MrRishik123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@UNSCPILOT That's precisely the point though.
      If people understand radioactivity is all around us, they would probably be more open to pushing for nuclear power.

    • @junglejim9551
      @junglejim9551 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      chances are it wouldn't be radioactive enough to notice a visible difference. You can really only tell that it's radioactive via gamma spectroscopy, or burying a highly sensetive Geiger counter in bananas.

  • @k9px
    @k9px 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Finally someone that understands that nuclear energy is the best way forward. :)

    • @Apostate_ofmind
      @Apostate_ofmind 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      K9 nuclear waste

    • @k9px
      @k9px 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Apostate_ofmind what about it?

  • @johnsumner2987
    @johnsumner2987 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just showed this to my daughter and we are going to build one for her science fair next year. And mainly because it is actually pretty cool looking.

  • @b1zzler
    @b1zzler 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is my new favorite channel on youtube

  • @hellishgrin4604
    @hellishgrin4604 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Is it bad that I can build one of these by just opening one drawer?

    • @tyedosminecraft
      @tyedosminecraft 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HellishGrin460 no man I wish I was in the same boat as you right now I’m looking at a 100 dollar amazon cart balance

  • @ThisFinalHandle
    @ThisFinalHandle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The day man split the atom he looked into the heart of a sun; did not flinch, did not blink and at that moment became god.

    • @djosearth3618
      @djosearth3618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      6 months later you/your god's held up in hospital with severe mouth and eye ulcers and derlious

    • @MandrakeFernflower
      @MandrakeFernflower 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      but stars fuse atoms - they don't split them

  • @johnpenguin9188
    @johnpenguin9188 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cloud chambers are pretty awesome!

  • @raphaelaugusto7663
    @raphaelaugusto7663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have a nice sense of humor good sir. Subscribed.

  • @robrod7120
    @robrod7120 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really hope people warm up to nuclear energy soon, even if the US only raised its nuclear output to, say, 30-40% of the total power used, the amount of carbon kept out of the atmosphere would be astronomical

    • @mfbfreak
      @mfbfreak 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree. The number of deaths per kWh is pretty damn low compared to the very accepted coal, and while building one reactor is ridiculously expensive, building 10 of the same type gets cheaper and cheaper.

    • @0Arcoverde
      @0Arcoverde 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mfbfreak it's the lowest death per energy out of everything...
      Including solar and wind
      But there is nuclear waste, bad decisions and a general fear of nuclear
      The new green energy corporation are also attacking nuclear as not the best...

    • @0Arcoverde
      @0Arcoverde 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mamupelu565 today it's actually the "renewable energy" corporations trying to demonize nuclear
      It's a viable against them, they are in today's society stronger and big oil can't argue that much if the facts, while they can do is lobby

  • @khalidal-hinai4900
    @khalidal-hinai4900 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What graphics card does it run?

    • @SuperBrainAK
      @SuperBrainAK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and how many frames in crysis?

    • @MushVPeets
      @MushVPeets 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      A Radeon, probably.

  • @ulfhugud
    @ulfhugud ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, this video helped me sooooo much with my cloud chamber project and presentation for college... I learned so much from your vid! thanks again!

  • @3v068
    @3v068 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really want to own a small collection of radioactive items like this and a cloud chamber so I can just have it for show. This is awesome!

  • @proxy1035
    @proxy1035 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "low high voltage"
    soo... medium voltage?
    also i've never seen a modern smoke detector that uses radioactive materials. most just use light

    • @vkhelldog
      @vkhelldog 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      In Canada?

    • @notasian7620
      @notasian7620 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I prefer 'regular voltage' not medium

  • @1224chrisng
    @1224chrisng 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I swear you sound exactly like a more nasal 3Blue1Brown

  • @XxPlayMakerxX131
    @XxPlayMakerxX131 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am really impressed of how much you know
    I will never be able to achieve such levels of knowledge

  • @vilmos1584
    @vilmos1584 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should check some old radioactive lenses. Mostly the Takumar 50mm and 55mm lenses. (the names vary, smc takumar, super takumar, super multy coated takumar etc. )
    The front-lenses are emits 5 OR 20-22 μSv/h, depend on the randomness of the thorium-content of the protective layer on it.
    (there are "radioactive lenses" out there, that uses lanthanum ore else, those are produce only 0,4-0,6 μSv/h or even less.

  • @Rinears
    @Rinears 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now my mom is not letting me licking uranium anymore... ;c

  • @qwaqwa1960
    @qwaqwa1960 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Noooooo!!! You want to use a MINIMUM of thermal compound between the coolers (in ALL applications actually).

  • @agdaboss3281
    @agdaboss3281 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    doing this was one of my favorite science fair projects

  • @kordta
    @kordta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Matt: -"Hey mate I just bought your favorite icecream!"
    Chad: -"Hold my uranium!"

  • @Scotty-vs4lf
    @Scotty-vs4lf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    in this video we will be covering how to:
    Get frostbite
    Get electrocuted and/or get 3rd degree burns
    Get cancer/ radiation poisoning

    • @imdone8243
      @imdone8243 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fun isn't it? :D

  • @nick5625
    @nick5625 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wouldn't mind you using hot glue and figuring stuff out as you go but man you have 3d printers and cncs look at the build quality of this vs the build quality of the cold plasma torch but i guess i can't complain since this way you can finish videos faster ... , nice work regardless !

  • @MuradBeybalaev
    @MuradBeybalaev 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I very much agree it's so cool to observe the empty chamber.

  • @0x73V14
    @0x73V14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    for the safety warning, also the flammable alcohol vapor, so if something such as the high voltage, causes a spark, you can get an explosion

  • @petervance7268
    @petervance7268 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cringed at the ammount of thermal paste... lol, Love your vids, including this one, tho

    • @resneptacle
      @resneptacle 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And hot gluing a fan to a heat source

  • @francoisleveille409
    @francoisleveille409 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have to strongly disagree with you regarding what you said about the new Chernobyl show. The HBO TV series clearly shows the incident was caused by cockiness becoming a form of substitute for management, corrupt and arrogant people being in high places of power and cutting corners in every possible places to save money. This resulted in massive lies and secrets.
    When nuclear energy is in the hands of honest and responsible people, it's pretty safe and generates no polluting exhaust fumes.

  • @N05K177
    @N05K177 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always wondered how to make one :) thanks for the informative video !!

  • @BushCampingTools
    @BushCampingTools 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great project. been meaning for ages to build one but we have a place quite close by with a huge chamber and often go there but nothing like having your own and to have built it yourself. Got all the parts lying around inc some sources, so better get with it! I'm subbing too!