Nice mod. I had a few Wiha one-quarter inch to micro bit adapters. To remove the hex shaft from the one-quarter-bit driver I put the hex shaft in my vice leaving a small gap where the bit driver meets the hex shaft using a tack puller I pryed the bit driver from the shaft. It was pressed on and came off easy. I snapped off the end of a slim taper file and filed out the quarter-inch bit driver so the Wiha micro-bit adapter would fit. It sounds like a lot of work but it was easy to do. Thanks for the idea.
I love this tool for my blade adjustments. Accidentally bought it from a scrapper. Bought a swiss tool, supertool 300, and 50 more tools from industrial area for price of one wonderful tool on review.
Hopefully people will suggest ways to separate the bit holder like you said. Perhaps you can get the discussion going by explaining how you separated the two bit holders you mentioned in the description.
Good point. Both attempts were on older bitholders and it was surprisingly easy. Fastening the bitholder, wiggling it with pliers and they were seperated. New ones, especially good quality ones will be tough to separate.
Here is an very easy way and guaranteed to work without causing any scratch: let the bit go through a 7mm wrench, in the way that the wrench tails up. Then mount the bit on a drill press, all way in, and tighten up the knob as hard as possible. a. Push down the wrench and the holder will come out a little. b. Lose up the bit, push all way in and tighten up. Repeat process a and b, until the holder is out of the bit.
Cool hack:) I found another handy hack for allmost all victorinox bottle opener screwdrivers, a 1/4 adapter fits there, put some ducttape in it so id doesnt wiggle, voila a swisstool has now standard bit capability for example:)
Great Idea! Currently I'm still fighting to separate the bit holder to get things work the way You described ... But in the meantime I was lucky to find another solution with a [1/4" Hex(Bitholder) to 5mm Imbus-Hex]-female/female-adapter that connects to a [4mm Hex to 5mm Imbus]-male/male-bit to fit into Cybertool's 4mm-bitholder. The CyberTool now works great with 1/4Hex-bits/nuts, and the combination of a Leatherman ratchet and the Cybertool's screwdriver in a 90° position handling feels really ergonomic. 🎉 My purpose is similar to Your's to have another light tool as a biking companion, since screws on bikes mostly need not to be handled with extreme force. Many thanks for Your inspiration! 😊
I am curious about this adapter 1/4" hex to 5mm female. Where did you find that one? You comment triggered another idea: ideally the easiest adapter would be a double sided 1/4" hex. Then either use a 4mm hex bit (male). Or a 4mm female hex bit that is often usually also is a magnetic adapter for hex drives to 4mm precision bits. Use it the same way as my hack by sliping it over the 4mm hex bit of the Cyber Tool. I found such double sided bitholders on the Japanes Amazon site (I am planning to buy a few Japanese tools) Looking at my different bitholders, I realised I have several 1/4" hex for 1/4" square ratchets. I searched for a double sided 1/4" square to connect two of these bitholders and I found those "couplers". These addtional hacks scream for a follow up video, don't they?
@@fastandcurious The "double-sided 1/4-hex Bitholder" ... isn't it what Your hack is doing by modifying that bit-holder, that is normally used for using hex-bits on a drilling machine? I've searched for such a "double sided 1/4 hex" female/female bitholder without beeing successful. Could you post a link, where to find those adapters?
@@fastandcurious Yes, it's a part from the PB Swiss Tool BikeTool. Got it together with the Imbus-tool - didn't know about that complete bike tool, where the adapter is the mission-critical part. But unfortunately the PB SwissTool BikeTool seem to be out of stock ...
Yes. A 4mm precision bit with an oversized 5mm hex male fits the Cyber Tool holder. But without a magnet, the bit will not "hold". I have inserted a magnet 3mm height into the Cyber Tool holder. It is a known hack. I am planning to make additional videos covering a number of hacks to use 1/4" bis or oversize bits for cyber tools
Yes, but .. you need to find a "loose" one. Two of my old bit holders had a wobbly connection of the shaft and bit holding part. Therefore I could separate the bit holder from the shaft. Since then I bought some newer good quality bitholders. I have to admit now, that those are near impossible to separate. I will soon post some more hacks for the Cyber Tools which are "easier".
Good question. Since that video I hacked a number of other bit holders for the Cyber Tool. I also tested how much power I would dare to apply to the Cyber Tool with a T20 screw. At about 5Nm I chickened out because I feared more would bend the chassis of the Vic. 5Nm is quite ok to tighten most screws. Loosening screws that a stuck might easily require more torque especially when using sizes of drivers (and screws) typically found with 1/4 inch bits. I think that Victorinox rightly fear that a lot of people would use the Cyber Tool for jobs that a swiss army knife is not designed for: lateral torque on the layered chassis. When first playing around with bit holders for the Cyber Tool I never thought about loosening screws until I needed to do it on my bike - and again I did not dare to push the limits. Since then I have switched to a super light weight yet fully capable 1/4 inch bit driver set as a seperate tool rather than part of a multi tool. The weight is nearly the same as is used with a bit adapter in combination with the Cyber Tool. The bit layer of the Cyber Tool weighs about 33g or 25g without the double bits. A bit adapter weighs about 20g. My current bit set with more than 20 bit sizes weighs less than 60g.
Yes, that is a great hack. But would you use that hack with a Cyber Tool? The Leatherman ratchet is not cheap... For me it is a question of basic choice: either a Cyber Tool, or for example the Handyman+ Leatherman Ratchet
Or Victorinox could have just made their socket a standard size. Btw, i their really a world where computer 💻 techs use the cyber tool instead of $20 mini socket sets that they can put in their backpack?
Apparently quite a few IT techies carry a Cyber Tool. If I were one, I would chose the M, the small pliers are really useful in such an environment. Why didn't they go for standard 1/4 inch bit holder and bits? I guess the "bit layer" of the knife would have been too big and heavy to make sense in the 91mm SAK format. My question to Victorinox is, why don't Vic include a nice magnet in the bit holder by default. Therefore one could carry additional 4mm precision bits including a few oversized ones (like a T25, H6 and maybe even a H8). The most popular hack is to add a magnet which I did. A video will follow soon.
Simple answer is yes. I bought a Cybertool 34 (now known as 'M') over twenty years ago when I was an IT tech. Has been indispensable, both for IT and general use. I still have it, but I have added the saw, file, chisel and flat blade layers from a ranger, to turn it into a modified Cyber L, with the bit driver as near to the middle as possible. Much better imho than Victorinox's tool placement.
With all the 1/4” drives available including multi-tools and even knives why you would take the chance of over torquing and damaging your Victorinox knife I don’t understand. To me it’s about the right tool for the job. If you are doing work that needs the heavier duty 1/4” bits get yourself a Leatherman tool with there bit kit, they are designed and warrantied for that kind of work.
I want to pocket all my tools, unless I am going on a longer trip. Most pliers based tools are too heavy for me. As a cyclist, a ratchet world be my first choice as the most appropriate specialised tool. The most lightweight 1/4 bit ratchet weighs about 100g (Victorinox Ratchet 31g, bit holder 19g, 7 bits in my case about 50g including the magazine). Total weight is about 260g including a tool like the Handyman. Still pocketable. The Cyber Tool L weighs about 190g plus additional 4 bits and bitholder 240g. The Cyber Tool is a formidable multi tool for me. For most parts on my bike the torque limit is about 3 to 6 NM (stem screws). I tighten them as much as I dare with the Cyber Tool The 1/4" bits are for "bike emergencies". If I take a test ride to adjust new parts on my bike for example, I pocket my Victorinox ratchet, a bit holder and selected bits plus the handyman. If I believe more capable pliers are needed, I carry a combination of the Victorinox Ratchet, Victorinox Ranger and Knipex Cobra XS. I love tools like the Leatherman Wave or Victorinox Spirit plus. But both weigh more than 240g. Including all accessories and adapters both easily weigh more than 320g. Most would use a belt pouch - for me this is too much hassle. For ratcheting, I already use the same Victorinox ratchet which comes with the Spirit Plus...
Nice mod. I had a few Wiha one-quarter inch to micro bit adapters. To remove the hex shaft from the one-quarter-bit driver I put the hex shaft in my vice leaving a small gap where the bit driver meets the hex shaft using a tack puller I pryed the bit driver from the shaft. It was pressed on and came off easy. I snapped off the end of a slim taper file and filed out the quarter-inch bit driver so the Wiha micro-bit adapter would fit. It sounds like a lot of work but it was easy to do. Thanks for the idea.
I love this tool for my blade adjustments. Accidentally bought it from a scrapper. Bought a swiss tool, supertool 300, and 50 more tools from industrial area for price of one wonderful tool on review.
Hopefully people will suggest ways to separate the bit holder like you said. Perhaps you can get the discussion going by explaining how you separated the two bit holders you mentioned in the description.
Good point. Both attempts were on older bitholders and it was surprisingly easy. Fastening the bitholder, wiggling it with pliers and they were seperated. New ones, especially good quality ones will be tough to separate.
Here is an very easy way and guaranteed to work without causing any scratch: let the bit go through a 7mm wrench, in the way that the wrench tails up. Then mount the bit on a drill press, all way in, and tighten up the knob as hard as possible. a. Push down the wrench and the holder will come out a little. b. Lose up the bit, push all way in and tighten up. Repeat process a and b, until the holder is out of the bit.
Cool hack:) I found another handy hack for allmost all victorinox bottle opener screwdrivers, a 1/4 adapter fits there, put some ducttape in it so id doesnt wiggle, voila a swisstool has now standard bit capability for example:)
Great Idea! Currently I'm still fighting to separate the bit holder to get things work the way You described ...
But in the meantime I was lucky to find another solution with a [1/4" Hex(Bitholder) to 5mm Imbus-Hex]-female/female-adapter that connects to a [4mm Hex to 5mm Imbus]-male/male-bit to fit into Cybertool's 4mm-bitholder.
The CyberTool now works great with 1/4Hex-bits/nuts, and the combination of a Leatherman ratchet and the Cybertool's screwdriver in a 90° position handling feels really ergonomic. 🎉
My purpose is similar to Your's to have another light tool as a biking companion, since screws on bikes mostly need not to be handled with extreme force.
Many thanks for Your inspiration! 😊
I am curious about this adapter 1/4" hex to 5mm female. Where did you find that one?
You comment triggered another idea: ideally the easiest adapter would be a double sided 1/4" hex. Then either use a 4mm hex bit (male). Or a 4mm female hex bit that is often usually also is a magnetic adapter for hex drives to 4mm precision bits. Use it the same way as my hack by sliping it over the 4mm hex bit of the Cyber Tool.
I found such double sided bitholders on the Japanes Amazon site (I am planning to buy a few Japanese tools)
Looking at my different bitholders, I realised I have several 1/4" hex for 1/4" square ratchets. I searched for a double sided 1/4" square to connect two of these bitholders and I found those "couplers".
These addtional hacks scream for a follow up video, don't they?
Is it the bit holder used by PB Swiss Tools for their Bike Tool?
@@fastandcurious The "double-sided 1/4-hex Bitholder" ... isn't it what Your hack is doing by modifying that bit-holder, that is normally used for using hex-bits on a drilling machine?
I've searched for such a "double sided 1/4 hex" female/female bitholder without beeing successful. Could you post a link, where to find those adapters?
Made a short clip about the toolset based on Your inspiration.
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Thank You so much!
@@fastandcurious Yes, it's a part from the PB Swiss Tool BikeTool. Got it together with the Imbus-tool - didn't know about that complete bike tool, where the adapter is the mission-critical part.
But unfortunately the PB SwissTool BikeTool seem to be out of stock ...
Does the 4mm Hex 5mm (H5) bit fit in the cybertool holder?
Yes. A 4mm precision bit with an oversized 5mm hex male fits the Cyber Tool holder. But without a magnet, the bit will not "hold". I have inserted a magnet 3mm height into the Cyber Tool holder. It is a known hack. I am planning to make additional videos covering a number of hacks to use 1/4" bis or oversize bits for cyber tools
So all I have to do is find one of those adapters that you’ve had just laying around in the house?
Yes, but .. you need to find a "loose" one. Two of my old bit holders had a wobbly connection of the shaft and bit holding part. Therefore I could separate the bit holder from the shaft. Since then I bought some newer good quality bitholders. I have to admit now, that those are near impossible to separate.
I will soon post some more hacks for the Cyber Tools which are "easier".
So why don't Victorinox sell a BIT adapter???
Good question. Since that video I hacked a number of other bit holders for the Cyber Tool. I also tested how much power I would dare to apply to the Cyber Tool with a T20 screw. At about 5Nm I chickened out because I feared more would bend the chassis of the Vic.
5Nm is quite ok to tighten most screws. Loosening screws that a stuck might easily require more torque especially when using sizes of drivers (and screws) typically found with 1/4 inch bits.
I think that Victorinox rightly fear that a lot of people would use the Cyber Tool for jobs that a swiss army knife is not designed for: lateral torque on the layered chassis.
When first playing around with bit holders for the Cyber Tool I never thought about loosening screws until I needed to do it on my bike - and again I did not dare to push the limits.
Since then I have switched to a super light weight yet fully capable 1/4 inch bit driver set as a seperate tool rather than part of a multi tool.
The weight is nearly the same as is used with a bit adapter in combination with the Cyber Tool.
The bit layer of the Cyber Tool weighs about 33g or 25g without the double bits. A bit adapter weighs about 20g.
My current bit set with more than 20 bit sizes weighs less than 60g.
Bonne idée ! :)
There's a hack where you can put leatherman ratchet behind the pliers and you have yourself a 1/4 screwdrivers.
Yes, that is a great hack. But would you use that hack with a Cyber Tool? The Leatherman ratchet is not cheap... For me it is a question of basic choice: either a Cyber Tool, or for example the Handyman+ Leatherman Ratchet
Or Victorinox could have just made their socket a standard size. Btw, i their really a world where computer 💻 techs use the cyber tool instead of $20 mini socket sets that they can put in their backpack?
Apparently quite a few IT techies carry a Cyber Tool. If I were one, I would chose the M, the small pliers are really useful in such an environment.
Why didn't they go for standard 1/4 inch bit holder and bits? I guess the "bit layer" of the knife would have been too big and heavy to make sense in the 91mm SAK format.
My question to Victorinox is, why don't Vic include a nice magnet in the bit holder by default. Therefore one could carry additional 4mm precision bits including a few oversized ones (like a T25, H6 and maybe even a H8).
The most popular hack is to add a magnet which I did. A video will follow soon.
Simple answer is yes. I bought a Cybertool 34 (now known as 'M') over twenty years ago when I was an IT tech. Has been indispensable, both for IT and general use. I still have it, but I have added the saw, file, chisel and flat blade layers from a ranger, to turn it into a modified Cyber L, with the bit driver as near to the middle as possible. Much better imho than Victorinox's tool placement.
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Gracias. Yes it is a great swiss army knife
With all the 1/4” drives available including multi-tools and even knives
why you would take the chance of over torquing and damaging your
Victorinox knife I don’t understand. To me it’s about the right tool
for the job. If you are doing work that needs the heavier duty 1/4”
bits get yourself a Leatherman tool with there bit kit, they are designed
and warrantied for that kind of work.
I want to pocket all my tools, unless I am going on a longer trip. Most pliers based tools are too heavy for me. As a cyclist, a ratchet world be my first choice as the most appropriate specialised tool. The most lightweight 1/4 bit ratchet weighs about 100g (Victorinox Ratchet 31g, bit holder 19g, 7 bits in my case about 50g including the magazine). Total weight is about 260g including a tool like the Handyman. Still pocketable.
The Cyber Tool L weighs about 190g plus additional 4 bits and bitholder 240g. The Cyber Tool is a formidable multi tool for me.
For most parts on my bike the torque limit is about 3 to 6 NM (stem screws). I tighten them as much as I dare with the Cyber Tool
The 1/4" bits are for "bike emergencies".
If I take a test ride to adjust new parts on my bike for example, I pocket my Victorinox ratchet, a bit holder and selected bits plus the handyman.
If I believe more capable pliers are needed, I carry a combination of the Victorinox Ratchet, Victorinox Ranger and Knipex Cobra XS.
I love tools like the Leatherman Wave or Victorinox Spirit plus. But both weigh more than 240g. Including all accessories and adapters both easily weigh more than 320g. Most would use a belt pouch - for me this is too much hassle.
For ratcheting, I already use the same Victorinox ratchet which comes with the Spirit Plus...