In the kindest way possible....I'm having a hard time supporting JoJo because of the *extreme vanity*. Comparing herself to Lady Gaga, who literally broke so many barriers for the queer community and faced extreme ridicule and backlash from society at large, who didn't really become famous until she'd already written, recorded, and produced an entire album....when JoJo released one song she didn't write or produce and is getting critiqued for saying things like "I want to create a new genre of music called gay pop" and then when being called out for that, saying "I didn't create it, but I'll be the Chief Marketing Officer" is absolutely WILD and RIDICULOUS.
"*extreme vanity*" Many singers and actors are vain and pretentious, whereas Jojo is instead more of an extrovert and addicted to attention which is also not unusual for celebrities, but what makes her special is not being afraid of being different, homosexual, cringy and weird and also not of negative feedback, as she is sadly used to be bullied and made fun of from a very young age being a child star and public figure.
@@sophieblair7466 other folks have already commented that but for me it goes without saying that I don't support her for abusing children or supporting the Ballingers either. So to your question that's right, I also don't support her for those reasons.
I don't care about Jojo being cringey online thats not why I dislike her, I dislike her because of her support and association with james charles and colleen.
Disliking JoJo over being who she is isn't ok. Disliking JoJo for cosigning and supporting harm to children is valid. Even if she was a victim, she is now also a perpetrator and it's not okay.
Thank you for this! I think Jojo is young and discovering herself and that’s so valid and at the same time she has made some choices that holding her accountable for is important so that she can continue to grow in good ways
@@user-if5jy8dn3e I am no expert and only stand by believing she has made some choices that she should take accountability for so I don’t want to over step here, but if you’re interested in some of the items that came to mind for me when I saw she was the guest, I would maybe look into the XOMGpop group and some of the families that have spoken out. Fully entitled to your own opinion surrounding it and I’m not here to cancel Jojo. I just believe she is becoming (well already is) major representation for our community and I think with that power comes responsibility and accountability and I want her to succeed in a way that doesn’t bring other people down.
Jojo saying she wants kids so soon legitimately scares me. She comes across far too self-centred to take care of a kid. And after the abuse to children that she was implicit in and the abusers she surrounds herself with...please no. She doesn't realise all the grooming she went through, saying "me at 12 was different" is literally a groomed child response from being told they're "so mature". I think this is why she now comes across as a kid trying to sit at the adult table. I really hope she's in very good therapy
Your opinion about her or how she "comes out to you" unfortunately says nothing about WHO she IS privately. You are judging her based on Like 30/40 percent of what you see..... But also IT IS better to be born in a Family that really wants you AS a Kid than Just be a surprise to a 16 year old WHO Had unprotected sex....
"My manager is a lesbian, my merch is owned by a lesbian, my agent is gay" ... I am a lesbian, most of my audiences are gay people. 👏 we are everywhere now! Thanks, Shan. 😂
Jojo is defs going through a tranformative phase but her way of wording things doesn't come off as masture, it comes off as arrogant and naive. Wish her the best and wild episode lol
@@Rainbow_Warrior_Princess Nope she didn’t. You’re exactly right. She handled her own abuse differently. She was still supportive to the girls on the show :) Why people think she abuses children is beyond me
@@Sammy_T12 maybe because you're misinformed so you don't get it. Do some more research about how she was shitty to the girls in the dance group she produced with her mother and how they told one girl that was bleeding from her bellybutton to put a pad on it, some crazy shit I would suggest you be careful with who you decide to speak up for before you know everything
We don’t care that you’re friends with adults. We care that you’re friends with Colleen ballinger, a very controversial, predatory human. Hope this helps
Nooooooooo she abused kids and advocated for adults who were inappropriate with KIDS. How is everyone so quick to forget that 😭 Edit: just because someone is part of the queer community doesn’t mean we should support bad people.
I feel like the bullying of small children and forcing a disabled child to wear a maxi pad over her tummy button after being forced to get back to work after a surgery is pretty bad though… and I don’t know if people like that deserve to have a huge platform and be millionaires/billionaires and helping to find a genoside is pretty bad.
@musicftw711 "she abused kids" That is a false allegation. Not she, but _her mother Jessalynn_ allegedly _mistreated_ one or some of the dance group girls. Besides, Jojo is not "bad" .
jojo has had a strange difficult childhood, but let’s not pretend that hasn’t had some pretty disturbing stories come out about how she treats the dance group she organized and funded (xomg). interesting interview, but ultimately just 1 hour of a narcissist ranting.
I liked this ep more than I expected! It made Jojo a real person for me. She carries/articulates herself well and it is sooo important to remind ourselves she is literally 21. Thank you for hosting her! Jojo: keep doing you
thank u shannon for reminding us to humanize people that are the talk of the town per say bc they become a character to us almost.. this deffo was helpful to broaden one's perspective.. : ) ALSO LOVE THE FRIEND OF DORTHY MERCH!!!!! and I'm proud of u for keeping it up for 25 weeks!! that's AMAZING!!!
Thank you for having JoJo on! It’s so easy for us to forget that celebrities are just people too. She’s literally a baby and just discovering who she is and who she wants to be. So much of her life has been planned/organized for her that now she has the freedom to figure it out for herself. Like you said, we all need to give her some grace.
29 year old lesbian here, every day my gf and I see JoJo content and talk about how our community isn't giving her any grace to figure herself out or make mistakes. So relieved to see this talked about on a real platform. There's space for all of us
What a disappointing choice of guest, but i guess its the views that matter right?? As a queer person who lives in a state that is consistently demonizing and calling queer people predators its weird you would give someone who is not only friends with abusers/groomers, but speaks out AGAINST victims access to your platform. Lets do better...Let's also not forget that she and her mom have been accused of abuse and exploitation..
I think JoJo is okay, I just wish she was a bit more humble, it would make her so much more likeable. Yes she did great things, but she always makes it sound like she did the greatest things in the world.
I watched to give Shan the view however in my personal opinion, this was an unproductive episode and Shan normally asks very good thought provoking questions that creates good conversations . This was a missed opportunity to ask questions that could have really changed the narrative around Jojo coming into young adulthood and how/why she’s looking to change the conversation regarding that, instead it was just a big ego boost . . I understand covering her coming out story but most if not all of the questions were things she discussed on Call Her Daddy or other interviews. Appreciate Shannon trying but just because she’s gay doesn’t mean we need to support what she does when there’s no clear vision. Jojo is an entertainer and knows how to put on a persona(this is not meant to be mean she literally stated this), that’s all she’s really shown. She’s still young so there’s hope for a change I just think Shannon missed the mark on this one.
this could have been a really great productive conversation, and instead it was just a space for jojo to spew her narcissistic nonsense and not learn anything yet again.
Your @ is “loiteringspy” and that sends a red flag for me tbh 🤣 why is she not supposed to talk about herself when she’s being interviewed on a podcast ????
Honestly i bet its her PR team because she is so poorly media trained that without strict interview ramifications, she'd run her career into the ground.
Shannon, You truly have created such a safe and calm space. Thank you for making this and showing the human side of people that are intentionally marketing themselves to get the attention( positive or negative). Keep going strong and so excited for the new merch!
Im not a jojo siwa hater and i was excited to watch this but I think you could’ve done better with this one Shan. No difficult questions, no hard conversations, no deepness. It felt like you were walking on egg shells, and all the topics were gassing her up or agreeing with everything she said. I know you can’t re do this but if you ever have another controversial guest, I think you should try to have a genuine conversation
Another great episode Shannon and it was such a delight to get to hear and see Jojo in such a comfortable safe open space. Your ability to showcase your guests apart from their online or onstage persona’s really makes you see that they are just as normal as anyone else just trying to navigate through this life is a really special gift you have at being an amazing host
Shannon! As an ex Mormon who is queer I’d LOVE for you to also have a convo with someone who is Mormon or was Mormon and is also queer! Because there’s a lot to go with that! Sex, relationships, how you feel about yourself so many things!
She’s a good person. She will be an amazing Mom. Just needs to chill. She’s the same person. I feel.. it’s all mood swings. Why am I here when my yorkie tore his ccl. I love you guys so much.
I think it’s crazy that a kid, well a young adult experiences so much scrutiny. She’s had to grow up in the public eye so early and she has grown ass adults talking bad about her? I will never understand. Thanks for having her Shannon. It was nice to see her in this environment. She deserves grace as we all do❤
she abused children and supports and still collabs with known predators, i think this warrents being talked about no matter how old the person talking abut it is
@@sophieblair7466did she literally do the abusing of children? Honest question. Or was she just a part of someone (Abby) who was hired to make a reality TV show and be very out of control with the kids. (Still abusing kids) but the TV show wanted that. How is she a perpetrator? I’m just curious, I obviously don’t know. Thanks ❤😊
I also think it’s sad how much hate she gets. Even since she was little. Abby had all the girls write reasons why they dislike JoJo and tell her to her face, when she was like 8. She’s a strong person. That’s all I know.
@@Sammy_T12 no, this has nothing to do with abby, she made a dance group with her mom where they forced the girls to work way too hard and very strict, which the parents of the girls didn't expect and the highlight of it all was when they forced a girl that was after surgery and was bleeding from her bellybutton to suck it up and put a pad on it to get back to work, just because she has trauma from her own experience doesn't justify in any way her doing the same to other kids, she needs therapy instead of continuing to be in the public eye
19:05 Ellen is awesome. Thank u!! Some now take for granted how much backlash Ellen went thru for publicly coming out and what she did for gays like me. She lost everything in 1998. She had to defend queerness against homophobes on Oprah just for saying she's gay out loud. Her sitcom was cancelled. She received death threats and took them with a grace. She turned around much of middle America years later through her talk show and love and humor. I will never ever ever forget the day that she announced the legalization of gay marriage in 2008. I was only 13 and didn't know I was gay but that day still makes me cry. She will forever hold my gratitude and a place in my gay heart for everything she means to me and queer history...
Shannon, this episode highlighted your interviewing skills. I worried in the beginning that JoJo wouldn’t break into a vulnerable place, but you got her there. I wish JoJo wouldn’t have worn the glasses because it would have helped build connection and vulnerability with viewers, but I can understand that the glasses might have helped her feel protected and safe. This interview surprised me with how inspirational it ended up being. Great vibes going into Pride Month 🌈
Really nice one!! Thank you shannon for bringing her to your platform. As a millennial lesbian attached mostly to "older" queer figures content this blew completely my perception of Jojo. From my internet bubble I could only reach hateful contents about her and this sucked. Im so sorry for Jojo, she needs and deserves LOVE! She is actually so genuine and sweet. Sending love!!
Thank you Shannon for being kind to her. She's just a kid. When I came out as a teenager it was pretty shocking for me to experience just as much bullying from the lgbt "community".
I feel like the bullying of small children and forcing a disabled child to wear a maxi pad over her tummy button after being forced to get back to work after a surgery is pretty bad though… and I don’t know if people like that deserve to have a huge platform and be millionaires/billionaires
"bullying of small children and forcing a disabled child to wear a maxi pad over her tummy button after being forced to get back to work after a surgery" The alleged bullying of members of her girls group and the incident with the maxi pad was allegedly her mother Jessalynn , not Jojo ! Leah accused her mother Jessalynn - not Jojo - of forcing her to perform with a bleeding belly button, Jojo didn't know of this.
I had really hoped that Shannon would've been the older queer person who could've been a genuine guide for a clearly misguided person like Jojo. The bullying Jojo receives is definitely sad and more than one person should get but being queer doesn't automatically mean that she's above criticism. I'm sad to see someone as seemingly wise as Shannon ignore Jojo's friendships with predators and her blatant disregard for queer history (especially queer music history). I think this podcast would've been a beautiful, natural place to have a dialogue with Jojo about the importance of truly understanding the community she wants to be embraced by.
I feel like if I talked to most people one on one I could find a reason to like them and would absolutely understand them better BUT it doesn't change their character and JoJo unfortunately treated her girl group terribly, supports child groomers, and I dunno I can't support someone who harms children even if they themselves are young and learning. Being kind is a great message, but we shouldn't be kind to the point that we ignore abusers and make space for them in the community.
Shannon I love you and your podcast however I think a lot of the reason people don’t like JoJo has nothing to do with her being cringe. It has to do with the FACT she supports and is friends with abusers, she has continuously denied victims stories and she herself has partook in abuse of CHILDREN. Shan please just be aware of that none of us are particularly disliking her bc of her in general just certain behaviours. I’d love to be kind but I don’t think abusers and supporters of abuse deserve our kindness in all honesty.
Really wish podcasters would stop giving her promotional platforms while refusing to actually acknowledge/raise question of the biggest tarnish to her reputation thus far (xomg pop accusations), and her problematic association with groomers 😀 do better!!!!!
I never thought I’d see the day Shannon publicly supported someone who abused and then silenced a child. I’m genuinely hoping you weren’t informed of the absolutely horrific things she did to those girls, especially Leigha.
People dont like JoJo because she's a bully, a toxic partner, and fraternizes with bigoted people among other things. Shannon could host the podcast in a more objective way if she doesnt want her guests to reflect on her, but she makes her personal relationship to each guest clear. And this one is clearly her kissing ass to improve her own career. She needs a publicist to prevent choices like this
Never been a fan of Jojo, but wanted to learn a little more about her, So I listened. Still not “my cup of tea”. Seems child star to adulthood is still something very tricky to navigate. I tend to forget she’s only 20 years old. There’s still a lot growing left to do for her. Hope her journey only gets easier and brighter. Interesting guest Shannon, thanks for sharing. 😉
Thank you for this podcast! It's so refreshing to see an adult treat her like a human being. I'm not a fan of hers by any means, but all the hate and bullying from literal adults is really sad.
youre sooo right about the 'figuring out what to wear' phase. I dressed soo masc when i came out, now years later i couldnt be more fem lol. so i dont understand why the queer community was mean about that
Jojo is educated and only 20 still trying to figure out herself. She is a hard worker and has the business knowledge. Let her just live her life!! I really like her confidence. Judging people is so ridiculous.
We need Renee Rapp on this podcast
came here to comment this. plsss get renee
Yeahhh
yesssss!!!!!!!!
PLEEEEASE
Reneé should've been on here before Jojo imo
if we’re talking about exes on podcasts…i would pay money for shannon to invite cammie, i think it might be a really wholesome episode
I agree!! How is Shan gonna give us 2 fletcher eps but ZERO cammie???
I knowwwww!! I wake up every Wednesday hoping to See Cammie in the title. Lol
NOW we’re talkin’ 🎉🎉🎉
Cammie is married so maybe her or her wife don’t want to entertain it ?
It’s givingggg you don’t keep up with Cammie
craziest crossover event in lesbian history
Eat your heart out Marvel movies
It's both of our favorite internet lesbian dramas together (shannon × fletcher // jojo siwa × avery cyrus) it really brings everything together 🫡
SHANNON YOU SHOULD HAVE CHAPPELL ROAN ON THE PODCAST!!
yes !!! please i love chappell
Yes!!!
I agree I agree I agree
Omg, yes, thisssssssss!!!!
begging for this
Fletcher ✔️
GFlip✔️
Jojo✔️
Kristen Stewart
Chappel Roan
Renee Rapp
Nxdia
Marie (Girl in Red)
Clairo, UMI
me***
Cammie
Raven??? she was here.
Zolita??? She was here too.
HALSEY
MILEY
CARLIE HASON PLEASEEE CARLIE
Astrid
Avery Cyrus
Don't forget... HAYLEY KIYOKO
Request for Chappell Roan and Reneé Rapp as guests please!! 🩷
i agree! those girls are so booked & busy though 😭
And Towa!
In the kindest way possible....I'm having a hard time supporting JoJo because of the *extreme vanity*. Comparing herself to Lady Gaga, who literally broke so many barriers for the queer community and faced extreme ridicule and backlash from society at large, who didn't really become famous until she'd already written, recorded, and produced an entire album....when JoJo released one song she didn't write or produce and is getting critiqued for saying things like "I want to create a new genre of music called gay pop" and then when being called out for that, saying "I didn't create it, but I'll be the Chief Marketing Officer" is absolutely WILD and RIDICULOUS.
"*extreme vanity*" Many singers and actors are vain and pretentious, whereas Jojo is instead more of an extrovert and addicted to attention which is also not unusual for celebrities, but what makes her special is not being afraid of being different, homosexual, cringy and weird and also not of negative feedback, as she is sadly used to be bullied and made fun of from a very young age being a child star and public figure.
she's just having fun, it's not that deep.
this is the only reason you don't support JoJo? not because of the fact she has abused children and supports predators?
@@sophieblair7466 other folks have already commented that but for me it goes without saying that I don't support her for abusing children or supporting the Ballingers either. So to your question that's right, I also don't support her for those reasons.
Eh idk abt this
All I can think of is that your guests have "outside clothes" on your bed lol
Literally was thinking the same thing watching lmaoo
so what
omg 100% !!!
omg yessss
It's not the bed she sleeps on surely??
I don't care about Jojo being cringey online thats not why I dislike her, I dislike her because of her support and association with james charles and colleen.
I agree, also not her shouting out Michael Jackson, doesn’t exactly show that she takes on board very serious allegations of child abuse
exactly she can post and act however she likes but supporting abusers is not ittttt
and abuse of children with her mum
@@janecarney3492michael jackson is not a child abuser. he was literally proven innocent in a criminal trial.
Omg she did that too 😰
Shanon please get Renne here!!
@nowthisisliving YES. please
This is everything i would have expected from you Shannon. Fantastic episode. You are the queen of creating a safe space . Well done 👏.
Disliking JoJo over being who she is isn't ok. Disliking JoJo for cosigning and supporting harm to children is valid. Even if she was a victim, she is now also a perpetrator and it's not okay.
Thank you for this! I think Jojo is young and discovering herself and that’s so valid and at the same time she has made some choices that holding her accountable for is important so that she can continue to grow in good ways
SAY THIS LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!! ❤
I don’t know what that woman is up to now, how is she supporting harm to children?
@@SadieLadie44how does she support harm to children? Thats an absurd statement
@@user-if5jy8dn3e I am no expert and only stand by believing she has made some choices that she should take accountability for so I don’t want to over step here, but if you’re interested in some of the items that came to mind for me when I saw she was the guest, I would maybe look into the XOMGpop group and some of the families that have spoken out. Fully entitled to your own opinion surrounding it and I’m not here to cancel Jojo. I just believe she is becoming (well already is) major representation for our community and I think with that power comes responsibility and accountability and I want her to succeed in a way that doesn’t bring other people down.
Jojo saying she wants kids so soon legitimately scares me. She comes across far too self-centred to take care of a kid. And after the abuse to children that she was implicit in and the abusers she surrounds herself with...please no. She doesn't realise all the grooming she went through, saying "me at 12 was different" is literally a groomed child response from being told they're "so mature". I think this is why she now comes across as a kid trying to sit at the adult table. I really hope she's in very good therapy
Your opinion about her or how she "comes out to you" unfortunately says nothing about WHO she IS privately. You are judging her based on Like 30/40 percent of what you see..... But also IT IS better to be born in a Family that really wants you AS a Kid than Just be a surprise to a 16 year old WHO Had unprotected sex....
*complicit … not implicit 😂
yesterday, i saw someone on my flight from phoenix to boston with one of your Dorothy hats on. loved to see it.
i guess she’s the dream guest on your podcast 😭
no that position goes to cari ahaha
I'm hoping for Cate Blanchet, Kristen Stewart, and Adelaide Kane one day 🤞🤞 Shannon can do anything she sets her mind to.
this is so funny😭😭😭
this made me laugh
Proud of Shannon for her 25th weekly episode! U did it 🎉🎉🎉 (don't forget to like the videos, guys)
One thing i love about this podcast is that you are genuinely not afraid of facing controversy, and i admire you for that.
"My manager is a lesbian, my merch is owned by a lesbian, my agent is gay" ... I am a lesbian, most of my audiences are gay people. 👏 we are everywhere now! Thanks, Shan. 😂
*Manifesting Clairo on this pod*
My life would be complete.
@@zoetyyler so fulfilled
I wonder if JoJo goes to therapy coz.. she's going thru some things.. I hope she is truly fine..
I like how Shannon hinted that there might be some concerning things happening in JoJo's life. Food for thought for her. Hopefully she's listening.
Jojo is defs going through a tranformative phase but her way of wording things doesn't come off as masture, it comes off as arrogant and naive. Wish her the best and wild episode lol
shes twenty.. relax
Not crazy about this guest choice... let's stick to folks who don't speak out against abuse victims pls 😑
Jojo didn't speak out against "abuse victims" ... !
@@Rainbow_Warrior_Princess Nope she didn’t. You’re exactly right. She handled her own abuse differently. She was still supportive to the girls on the show :)
Why people think she abuses children is beyond me
@@Sammy_T12 maybe because you're misinformed so you don't get it. Do some more research about how she was shitty to the girls in the dance group she produced with her mother and how they told one girl that was bleeding from her bellybutton to put a pad on it, some crazy shit I would suggest you be careful with who you decide to speak up for before you know everything
@@Sammy_T12ur. Restarted
i want soph mosca on this podcast
We don’t care that you’re friends with adults. We care that you’re friends with Colleen ballinger, a very controversial, predatory human. Hope this helps
I really love this episode, and get to know JoJo as a person that have feelings, and not just the character everyone try to make fun on
So, was Shannon a little bit of a people pleaser here?
1:10:30 HELP THE WAY AVERY CYRUS RESPONDED TO THIS PART IN A SHORT SAYING THANK GOD😭
Cause bro 😂
Nooooooooo she abused kids and advocated for adults who were inappropriate with KIDS. How is everyone so quick to forget that 😭
Edit: just because someone is part of the queer community doesn’t mean we should support bad people.
ikr i just went YIKES after seeing the title
My comment for wanting to know why we should support someone who cosigns harming children in multiple ways just because they're queer got erased.
I feel like the bullying of small children and forcing a disabled child to wear a maxi pad over her tummy button after being forced to get back to work after a surgery is pretty bad though… and I don’t know if people like that deserve to have a huge platform and be millionaires/billionaires and helping to find a genoside is pretty bad.
@musicftw711 "she abused kids"
That is a false allegation. Not she, but _her mother Jessalynn_ allegedly _mistreated_ one or some of the dance group girls. Besides, Jojo is not "bad" .
@@Kree.B. "someone who cosigns harming children in multiple ways"
That is a false allegation.
This one was a hard watch. I love the back and forth banter with the usual guests but Shannon couldn’t hardly get 2 words in with Jojo.
Jojo only loves to hear herself speak.
jojo has had a strange difficult childhood, but let’s not pretend that hasn’t had some pretty disturbing stories come out about how she treats the dance group she organized and funded (xomg). interesting interview, but ultimately just 1 hour of a narcissist ranting.
yuuuuup
I liked this ep more than I expected! It made Jojo a real person for me. She carries/articulates herself well and it is sooo important to remind ourselves she is literally 21. Thank you for hosting her! Jojo: keep doing you
thank u shannon for reminding us to humanize people that are the talk of the town per say bc they become a character to us almost.. this deffo was helpful to broaden one's perspective.. : )
ALSO LOVE THE FRIEND OF DORTHY MERCH!!!!! and I'm proud of u for keeping it up for 25 weeks!! that's AMAZING!!!
✨Manifesting all your dream guests on Shannon's podcast✨
🌈Everything is possible🌈
WE BELIEVE IN SHANNON
This was so special! Shannon you’re so eloquent and a really good interviewer!
CHAPELL ROANNN
She is just 20 she is so young.
She recently turned 21, on the 19th, same as me!!
@@maddymaiolo171who cares 😂
I’m on team Renee Rapp for next podcast 😜
Thank you for having JoJo on! It’s so easy for us to forget that celebrities are just people too. She’s literally a baby and just discovering who she is and who she wants to be. So much of her life has been planned/organized for her that now she has the freedom to figure it out for herself. Like you said, we all need to give her some grace.
29 year old lesbian here, every day my gf and I see JoJo content and talk about how our community isn't giving her any grace to figure herself out or make mistakes. So relieved to see this talked about on a real platform. There's space for all of us
Thanks for this. The hate is sad! Human being.
What a disappointing choice of guest, but i guess its the views that matter right?? As a queer person who lives in a state that is consistently demonizing and calling queer people predators its weird you would give someone who is not only friends with abusers/groomers, but speaks out AGAINST victims access to your platform. Lets do better...Let's also not forget that she and her mom have been accused of abuse and exploitation..
I think JoJo is okay, I just wish she was a bit more humble, it would make her so much more likeable. Yes she did great things, but she always makes it sound like she did the greatest things in the world.
I love confident women 😍 I love lesbians 😍
Lowkey would be cool for Cammie to go on the pod...but other than her we need Renee Rapp FORSURE
Being 20 and being best friends with a 13 yr old is weird tbh
That’s why she said she wasn’t friends w a 13 y/o
well, she was friend with a 30 year old when she was like 12 so i'm not surprised
I watched to give Shan the view however in my personal opinion, this was an unproductive episode and Shan normally asks very good thought provoking questions that creates good conversations . This was a missed opportunity to ask questions that could have really changed the narrative around Jojo coming into young adulthood and how/why she’s looking to change the conversation regarding that, instead it was just a big ego boost . .
I understand covering her coming out story but most if not all of the questions were things she discussed on Call Her Daddy or other interviews.
Appreciate Shannon trying but just because she’s gay doesn’t mean we need to support what she does when there’s no clear vision. Jojo is an entertainer and knows how to put on a persona(this is not meant to be mean she literally stated this), that’s all she’s really shown. She’s still young so there’s hope for a change I just think Shannon missed the mark on this one.
Manifesting Julien Baker and Lucy Dacus on this podcast
this could have been a really great productive conversation, and instead it was just a space for jojo to spew her narcissistic nonsense and not learn anything yet again.
Your @ is “loiteringspy” and that sends a red flag for me tbh 🤣 why is she not supposed to talk about herself when she’s being interviewed on a podcast ????
@@zoetyylerit’s not the fact that she was talking about herself, it’s that she takes no responsibility for her behavior and/or mistakes.
Honestly i bet its her PR team because she is so poorly media trained that without strict interview ramifications, she'd run her career into the ground.
Shannon, You truly have created such a safe and calm space. Thank you for making this and showing the human side of people that are intentionally marketing themselves to get the attention( positive or negative). Keep going strong and so excited for the new merch!
omg it would be so cool if you could invite RENEE RAPP!!! or KING PRINCESS!!! or memebers of BOYGENIUSSS!!!💗💗
Im not a jojo siwa hater and i was excited to watch this but I think you could’ve done better with this one Shan. No difficult questions, no hard conversations, no deepness. It felt like you were walking on egg shells, and all the topics were gassing her up or agreeing with everything she said. I know you can’t re do this but if you ever have another controversial guest, I think you should try to have a genuine conversation
Another great episode Shannon and it was such a delight to get to hear and see Jojo in such a comfortable safe open space.
Your ability to showcase your guests apart from their online or onstage persona’s really makes you see that they are just as normal as anyone else just trying to navigate through this life is a really special gift you have at being an amazing host
"agghhhh I'm savin Emily's life" eesh we have really fucked up this child. We need to protect her at all costs
Lolol i was like wtf, Emily????
This was a great conversation, the energy was vibing. Thanks for consistently being a safe space for all of our queer community🫶
Shannon! As an ex Mormon who is queer I’d LOVE for you to also have a convo with someone who is Mormon or was Mormon and is also queer! Because there’s a lot to go with that! Sex, relationships, how you feel about yourself so many things!
I don’t think I’ve ever been awake this late/early to watch a podcast so soon.. but im going to watch it now!
She’s a good person. She will be an amazing Mom. Just needs to chill. She’s the same person. I feel.. it’s all mood swings. Why am I here when my yorkie tore his ccl. I love you guys so much.
THE TANKINI TO QUEER PIPELINE is the truest thing I’ve heard all week omg 🤯
I think it’s crazy that a kid, well a young adult experiences so much scrutiny. She’s had to grow up in the public eye so early and she has grown ass adults talking bad about her? I will never understand. Thanks for having her Shannon. It was nice to see her in this environment. She deserves grace as we all do❤
she abused children and supports and still collabs with known predators, i think this warrents being talked about no matter how old the person talking abut it is
@@sophieblair7466did she literally do the abusing of children? Honest question. Or was she just a part of someone (Abby) who was hired to make a reality TV show and be very out of control with the kids. (Still abusing kids) but the TV show wanted that.
How is she a perpetrator? I’m just curious, I obviously don’t know.
Thanks ❤😊
I also think it’s sad how much hate she gets. Even since she was little. Abby had all the girls write reasons why they dislike JoJo and tell her to her face, when she was like 8. She’s a strong person. That’s all I know.
@@Sammy_T12 this is regarding Abby Lee miller. Look up the group jojo and her mum created and then look up the allegations of abuse
@@Sammy_T12 no, this has nothing to do with abby, she made a dance group with her mom where they forced the girls to work way too hard and very strict, which the parents of the girls didn't expect and the highlight of it all was when they forced a girl that was after surgery and was bleeding from her bellybutton to suck it up and put a pad on it to get back to work, just because she has trauma from her own experience doesn't justify in any way her doing the same to other kids, she needs therapy instead of continuing to be in the public eye
I loved this interview. You did such a great job humanizing Jojo. She may be just a kid, but she is a damn hard working kid.
Abusive and gross
podcast with billie eilish? 👀
This would break the internet I think. And I am absolutely here for it
Wooww!! Yessss!!
19:05 Ellen is awesome. Thank u!! Some now take for granted how much backlash Ellen went thru for publicly coming out and what she did for gays like me. She lost everything in 1998. She had to defend queerness against homophobes on Oprah just for saying she's gay out loud. Her sitcom was cancelled. She received death threats and took them with a grace. She turned around much of middle America years later through her talk show and love and humor. I will never ever ever forget the day that she announced the legalization of gay marriage in 2008. I was only 13 and didn't know I was gay but that day still makes me cry. She will forever hold my gratitude and a place in my gay heart for everything she means to me and queer history...
Shannon, this episode highlighted your interviewing skills. I worried in the beginning that JoJo wouldn’t break into a vulnerable place, but you got her there. I wish JoJo wouldn’t have worn the glasses because it would have helped build connection and vulnerability with viewers, but I can understand that the glasses might have helped her feel protected and safe. This interview surprised me with how inspirational it ended up being. Great vibes going into Pride Month 🌈
Renee and Chappell. Please 😭
i think i became more gay seeing shannon with her hair down.... loll
shannon that merch is FIRE
The shorts and the carabiner! I'm so siked to rep it all
Really nice one!! Thank you shannon for bringing her to your platform. As a millennial lesbian attached mostly to "older" queer figures content this blew completely my perception of Jojo. From my internet bubble I could only reach hateful contents about her and this sucked. Im so sorry for Jojo, she needs and deserves LOVE! She is actually so genuine and sweet. Sending love!!
Thank you Shannon for being kind to her. She's just a kid. When I came out as a teenager it was pretty shocking for me to experience just as much bullying from the lgbt "community".
I feel like the bullying of small children and forcing a disabled child to wear a maxi pad over her tummy button after being forced to get back to work after a surgery is pretty bad though… and I don’t know if people like that deserve to have a huge platform and be millionaires/billionaires
And she is friends with colleen
"bullying of small children and forcing a disabled child to wear a maxi pad over her tummy button after being forced to get back to work after a surgery"
The alleged bullying of members of her girls group and the incident with the maxi pad was allegedly her mother Jessalynn , not Jojo ! Leah accused her mother Jessalynn - not Jojo - of forcing her to perform with a bleeding belly button, Jojo didn't know of this.
I had really hoped that Shannon would've been the older queer person who could've been a genuine guide for a clearly misguided person like Jojo. The bullying Jojo receives is definitely sad and more than one person should get but being queer doesn't automatically mean that she's above criticism. I'm sad to see someone as seemingly wise as Shannon ignore Jojo's friendships with predators and her blatant disregard for queer history (especially queer music history). I think this podcast would've been a beautiful, natural place to have a dialogue with Jojo about the importance of truly understanding the community she wants to be embraced by.
Jojo reminds me so much of Kanye..........
Love the podcast. First G flip now Jojo, can't explain how much I love them. Thankyou.
I feel like if I talked to most people one on one I could find a reason to like them and would absolutely understand them better BUT it doesn't change their character and JoJo unfortunately treated her girl group terribly, supports child groomers, and I dunno I can't support someone who harms children even if they themselves are young and learning. Being kind is a great message, but we shouldn't be kind to the point that we ignore abusers and make space for them in the community.
Not surprised… Shannon is too agreeable to call someone out on real issues.
Shannon I love you and your podcast however I think a lot of the reason people don’t like JoJo has nothing to do with her being cringe. It has to do with the FACT she supports and is friends with abusers, she has continuously denied victims stories and she herself has partook in abuse of CHILDREN. Shan please just be aware of that none of us are particularly disliking her bc of her in general just certain behaviours. I’d love to be kind but I don’t think abusers and supporters of abuse deserve our kindness in all honesty.
It’s so cool you held a trial and were judge and jury at the same time.
Really wish podcasters would stop giving her promotional platforms while refusing to actually acknowledge/raise question of the biggest tarnish to her reputation thus far (xomg pop accusations), and her problematic association with groomers 😀 do better!!!!!
This! It’s not even about her being cringe or literally anything else it’s the fact she supports and partakes in abuse.
Congrats to all you do is Shannon another great podcast with Jojo 💗
I never thought I’d see the day Shannon publicly supported someone who abused and then silenced a child. I’m genuinely hoping you weren’t informed of the absolutely horrific things she did to those girls, especially Leigha.
I have no problem with her being a cringey lesbian, we all went through it! but she consistently associates with predators. Sooooo…
Shannon enjoy all your work! You also seem to be doing really well right now😊
this interview was amazing
Love you Shannon this is a very interesting episode I enjoyed it❤
Shannon please get muna on the podcast!!!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Yes please!!!! They are the funniest people alive
Yes!! Shannon might need a bigger bed though!!
*cough* predator protector *cough* excuse me ✌️
I really wanted to watch the whole thing, cause I like Shannon and her questions and the way she speaks but sheeeesh... I can't do it.
The reminders from Shannon were quite gentle and helpful ❤
People dont like JoJo because she's a bully, a toxic partner, and fraternizes with bigoted people among other things. Shannon could host the podcast in a more objective way if she doesnt want her guests to reflect on her, but she makes her personal relationship to each guest clear. And this one is clearly her kissing ass to improve her own career. She needs a publicist to prevent choices like this
I’m wearing my Be Kind t-shirt today!! Yes yes Shannon, thank you. And I, for one, am psyched to be watching JoJo on here. Yay…two gay icons 😊😊
JoJo is a very physically strong young woman too.
jojo is the coolest. this episode and this conversation were so fun
Chappell please 😭
renee rapp pls
Never been a fan of Jojo, but wanted to learn a little more about her, So I listened. Still not “my cup of tea”. Seems child star to adulthood is still something very tricky to navigate. I tend to forget she’s only 20 years old. There’s still a lot growing left to do for her. Hope her journey only gets easier and brighter. Interesting guest Shannon, thanks for sharing. 😉
If Donald Trump had a little gay girl
We need SOPH MOSCA in here 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Thank you for this podcast!
It's so refreshing to see an adult treat her like a human being.
I'm not a fan of hers by any means, but all the hate and bullying from literal adults is really sad.
Just ordered a hat ! If only I could look as good as Shannon wearing it ❤😂
youre sooo right about the 'figuring out what to wear' phase. I dressed soo masc when i came out, now years later i couldnt be more fem lol. so i dont understand why the queer community was mean about that
Jojo comes off as narcissistic in every podcast I’ve watched/listened to including her own. It gives me the ICK….. thank you, NEXT GUEST 😅😅😅
TRUTH!
Jojo is educated and only 20 still trying to figure out herself. She is a hard worker and has the business knowledge. Let her just live her life!! I really like her confidence. Judging people is so ridiculous.
well done shannon good episode!