What Happened to AOA Mina & Jimin - The Unexpected Twist That Tricked The Kpop World
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- A little editorial on my thoughts on What Happened to AOA Mina & Jimin, The Unexpected Twist That Tricked The Kpop World, Kwon Mina, Shin Jimin, AOA Scandal, Mina Jimin Text Messages and Transcripts Released, Mina Jimin Dispatch, Mina the Commander, Mina New Claims Against Jimin, Is Mina A Liar? Where is Shin Jimin Now?
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:25 Talking About My Last Video About Mina & Jimin
4:01 Dispatch Release Messages Between Mina & Jimin
5:01 Mina The Commander
7:26 Final Thoughts About The News
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I agreed with everyone saying I should make an update video and here it is. I definitely learned my lesson to remain neutral on stories like this even when we want to support a victim. But here is the latest news. What do you think about the Dispatch bombshell of the messages between Mina and Jimin? And please don't send hate to anyone even Mina.
Hey, at least you owned up to your mistakes and decided to spread more awareness to everyone. Too bad the same can't be said for most stans🗿
Both have 2 point of view like Jimin was just a struct Leader so ig a good Leader Mina just was young and may be weak emotionally at the time when she will grow she might see that this was stupid this was a fight for nothing Jimin does her job that's all AOA is dead with this scandal... Hopefully they forgive each other and stop dramatising all Hope hope...
:)
U haven't talked about what happened to Seungri and Desung situation. And also what happened to Kris Wu?
No updates on Kris Wu and Daesung (pro$titution scandal)
Not only they attacked jimin, but they attacked her body, her rapping style, her voice. People owe jimin a big apology.
Jimin isnt that innocent tho.. Many videos show many things..
@@tingle2323 What those edited videos that need taken down? Please link the unedited videos. And even if she isn't innocent that doesn't change the fact that the internet relentlessly bullied her, that's wrongs wrong with the kpop community even after finding out they did a shitty things they'll still make excuses for their actions.
@@tingle2323 oof I am sick and tired of y'all believing these edited videos made by clout chasers. I wonder How many people life is going to ruin cuz of this edited videos!
@@tingle2323 there are a lot of trash "ktubers" out there, who just use kpop for attention and pretend to be nice stans, while being jealous haters, who always wait for such things to happen and the moment an idol is being accused of something, they only care to create more hate trains and edit such vids to make these idols look even worse, taking things out of context, using scenes of comedy shows and make it look like some documentary etc etc, thats why i always say use official sources for such things and not some trash youtubers who just have some subs, mostly even bought fake subs, and blindly believe them because of that
@@tingle2323 your username somehow does not match the rubbish you're spouting
For people who want a summary of things
1. Mina has been bullying the staff and managers since she first got into fnc,constantly demanding things during their time off (example, at 4am, telling them to make her mom’s dentist appointment) talking to them rudely, accusing them, and getting angry at them for no reason. She would demand them to apologize after she would mistreat them saying it’s their fault she’s upset and crying and depressed.
2. Minas text messages with jimin show that they were actually really close and jimin was sweet to mina, calling her to even check up on her to see how she’s doing , even after mina left the group. months before Mina’s “exposing” jimin, jimin and mina met up and hugged, jimin said I love you, mina said sorry and thank you to her. Even after jimin’s dad passed away she checked up on mina..
3. The members tried to mediate the situation and hyejeong even told mina to apologize to jimin too but mina blamed everything on jimin.
4. Choa said she gave up on mina cuz she doesn’t listen to anyone and that jimin had to step up. Mina would miss practices, mistreat fans, and abuse staff. Someone had to step up and it was jimin who scolded her as the leader - THIS ISNT BULLYING. The big fight they had was cuz mina ruined their comeback & it was canceled due to her missing all the practices and that’s when they were aggressive with each other + Hyejeong said she is going to go crazy cuz of mina driving her crazy.
5. Mina sent jimin nasty messages attacking jimin’s mom and also insulting her appearances and called her a whore.
6. Jimin apologized cuz choa told her she should as the leader and unni (older) and also to end the drama and calm mina down. Mina exposed and caused the whole drama months after her and jimin reconciled for their big fight just because she was feeling depressed due to not having a job and aoa becoming popular with queendom. She admitted to this.
7. Jimin left the industry not because she was guilty but only because she got so much hate after writing “fiction” + mina threatening suicide + exposing her sex life. Keep in mind, this whole thing happened only 3 months after her dad passed away + jimin was already depressed and taking medication for this.
I’m just surprised jimin didn’t go nuts…if I were with a girl like Mina I would have lost my sanity…yikes..she’s toxic af
@@i_aint_gonna_cry4u187 lol true I Will gave jimin an award for staying with that snake
Pavictim si mina
Fortunately, Jimin still had her friend. I really appreciate Seolhyun for still keep contact with her eventhough it might would affect her career. I hope Jimin only surrounded by good People from now on. She didn't need to step up to fix toxic people because she think she need to
@@potamoons1776 yea I’m happy she had someone …otherwise I was afraid the worst would happen.
This is why people should be more careful with any of these cases. Whether you tend to believe one side over the other or not it will do no good to send hate to either.
periodt, there is always 2 sides to a story
AMEN MY FRIEND
yeah like when people believed mina they went on bullying jimin… hello??? youre bullying someone because youre mad about bullying
Agree
That's why I always stay silent
This feels like t-ara bullying scandal where everyone thought hwa young was a victim and banned t-ara but turned out t-ara members were real victims
It's always pissed me off knowing Hwayoung doing well as an actress. Jiyeon even struggled to making a comeback nowadays let alone other members.
@K.G yes but it's not popular. She's doing alot but hv a little impact. It's really sad knowing how big she used to be.
@K.G T-Ara was only one step behind of SNSD. So you can imagine how popular they really are. 2ne1, SNSD, T-Ara, and 4Minute was the biggest girlgroup at that time.
@K.G from all the member, she's the most popular. When she's in the group she's been casted in several dramas (dream high 2 where she became one of the MC). Invited to numerous variety show. And her solo debut is very popular too (never ever is such a bop at that time). She's both popular in s.korea and china. That's why she's sign in with a chinese agency later after mbk since she probably think no agency in s.korea want her anymore. But now she left the chinese agency and became a free agent.
@@asseylum_2.012 oh also wonder girls
I mean Nobody and Tell Me is a legendary song
This is why I always stay neutral about every kpop scandal.
Same especially when it serious allegations
Same!
An extremely hot take. People owe her and kim woojin the biggest apologies
xyz as if they'd even mean it, they'll just do it again with the next alleged criminal, starting with an explanation on how that situation is different and how they could tell the next alleged victim is a sussy baka from the start by feeling the vibrations that the alleged criminal produced
@@januzairamli4426 oh of course they're all empaths that could sense their bad vibes from the very start :(( then they'll throw a party in Twitter about ruining someone else's life just to feel better about their sad miserable lives. Kpop Twitter is full of pathetic losers that will cry mental health the moment we lose another kpop idol but say "kys" like it's nothing.
Anyway please stream my growing pains by kim woojin, it's such a beautiful song and the lyrics showcases what he's gone through this past year
I have to get this off my chest. I’m so disturbed by the lack of outrage to Mina from the abusive and offensive texts she sent Jimin. Almost everyone is saying that it is a private matter that Mina should have solved privately and not brought to the public, no regard to Jimins mental health or feelings. There is literally SOLID proof of Mina lying and being terrible to Jimin, yet showing no remorse to how everyone shunned Jimin out of the entertainment buisness while still grieving over her father. Mina also disrespected Jimin’s father. Absolutely disgusted by the lack of support to jimin and the neutrality of everyone regarding this situation. You just want it to be over and stop hearing about it, but what about Jimin being wrongly accused of bullying? I hope she’s ok where ever she is.
True.. like mental health IS NOT AN EXCUSE on the sh*ts that mina did to other people. 😑
Yeah, pitchforks for Jimin but when it's Mina's turn it's all stay neutral when she's the one who should be condemned. I guess pretty privilege is a thing.
@@yueliang1645 at the start it was definitely pretty privilege but now everyone is tired of it bcz they don't wanna admit that they were fooled by mina they probably feel stupid rn and won't admit it
@@user-ec2pj9ni7v Aye. Funny how ppl want to say whatever they want buy don't want to be held responsible for that.
Personally, the reason I'm not as angry with Mina is because it looks like those texts are her attempt at getting justice for herself, and that's understandable to me especially given Mina's obvious struggles with mental health. The way I see it, Jimin started all of this by bullying Mina. Idk why everyone's forgotten all the reasons we believed Mina in the first place, but from the compilations I saw, I remain convinced that Jimin did not treat her well/was abusive first. Those Dispatch texts are not evidence that Jimin did not bully Mina. If anything, they are evidence that Jimin apologized, Mina more or less accepted the apology, but then rescinded her acceptance of the apology and posted everything online to continue getting revenge. Maybe Mina only "accepted" the apology as part of her plan to get revenge, maybe she's just unhinged and changed her mind for no reason- either way it's her response to the trauma she endured. The reports of other staff managers not liking her also aren't evidence that Jimin never bullied Mina to me. Maybe Mina became a rude person after suffering from prolonged bullying, that wouldn't be right but it's understandable. Mina doesn't have to be a perfect, blameless angel for it to be true that she was relentlessly bullied by Jimin. The point stands that just because she developed a bad attitude doesn't mean Jimin didn't bully her. At the end of the day, to me it simply isn't as bad for someone to do something like that as retaliation for genuine past slights. Someone punching their bully isn't as bad as the bully making the first punch (an eye for an eye, etc. etc.). What Mina is doing so far falls under retaliation, whereas what Jimin did years ago was unprovoked attacks, and there is a meaningful difference in the ethical significance of those two things. I definitely think Mina needs help (for one thing it's a red flag to me whenever someone puts 100% of the "blame" for their mental illness on someone or something else, as that mindset is usually a huge impediment to recovery), and she has done wrong in this situation, but it's not on the same level of wrong as what Jimin did. That's why I'm not as outraged at Mina. Sure, more evidence could come out demonstrating that Jimin never bullied Mina, but until then I still think there's good enough evidence that Jimin did bully her first, and therefore Mina's actions are more justifiable. At the least, we should be affording Mina more compassion than Jimin right now given the evidence we currently have. Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of the facts, but as far as I know we've never actually seen evidence that Mina's original claims/evidence were untrue. I'm not trying to argue with anyone, I just thought I would share why I personally am not as upset at Mina. To be clear, I still think Mina has done wrong, just not enough for me to cancel her to the extent Jimin has been. I imagine this boils down to a difference in opinion as to the ethics of retaliating against one's bully. For many of us observers, Jimin losing her career and receiving some mean texts is an appropriate punishment for bullying Mina for years.
You know what? Sometimes, the ones who called themselves victims are the most dangerous person to be with.
This is a terrible thing to say especially when you can be a victim of a wide variety of things… Saying stuff like that is why people don’t come forward and evil people get away with it.
i think u ahould stay neutral on both of them because the other members and staffs are not saying anything
@@tomtomnoodles9659 from what i understood in the messages, jimin is a leader who's strict and was pushing mina to do better cause choa left and all the members needs to do more than what theyre doing. Then mina doesnt like how Jimin is pushing her.
Hence, both of them have a misunderstamding.
@@tomtomnoodles9659 from my point of view, I think min@ mental health actually due of her own behaviour…😅😅
@@tomtomnoodles9659 Mental health issues isn't and WILL NEVER be a good excuse to manipulate people and destroy others' lives. Yes, you can blame Mina. Instead of getting professional help like literally everyone said, she went ahead and kept up with her unrealistic story and continued destroying Jimin's reputation and mental health. Yes, she went through a lot, growing up with an abusive father (according to her, which doesn't even make sense since she said she felt heartbroken when she was kept from spending her last moments with her father and wasn't even there when he passed away, when she literally got 2 weeks off and even said herself she watched as he died. Then suddenly, she says she hated her father so much she wanted him to just die. Like girl you're contradicting yourself). This Mina, the one who grew up in such a toxic household, walked into FNC, agreeing to work 24/7, basically signing her freedom and happiness away. Like what? Anyways my point is, you can blame Mina and mental health is not an excuse to do such things. What you're saying is basically "Jimin and the rest of AOA deserves to suffer from Mina's personal health that they've been trying to help her with for 10 years".
I've been saying it since the beginning, this entire situation feels like what happened with T-ara. Their lives got ruined while the demon twins are actually still on TV, pretty much triving. Back in the day, cancel culture wasn't as strong but I really do hope the other girls of AOA can recover from this. They worked really hard to get where they're at and each member has had their own struggles (Jimin's dad, Choa's depression, Seohyuns almost borderline eating disorders, etc.) and they were doing pretty well for themselves after Queendom.
Wait the twins aren't jobless already?
@@xyz-hs9ix no, theyre actress.
@@xyz-hs9ix they're actresses. Hyoyoung uses the stage name Jeong Wooyeon and Hwayoung signed with Polaris last year
@@mariadiallo5786 i hope they flop but their rich daddy won't let them
@@xyz-hs9ix nah. They're doing well actually. Some of her series are even well received. Poor T-ara
What shoked me the most was the message that Mina send to Jimin after she leaved the entertainment industry:
"Hey Jimin, are you not going to respond? You won’t respond even if I die? Come to your senses. I won’t ever forget you."
"I want to pay back all of the bullying you did to me exactly as is. I’m holding back well. Hey, if you saw it, you should respond. Aren’t you angry? You need to come beat me up, haha. Come on. Are you even human?"
"Jimin, you can’t do this to me. Someone’s dying here. Do you have no emotion? Hahaha. You have no remorse, huh? It’s about time your temper comes up. Why are you quiet?"
"You were looking for a knife at my house. I have a lot of knives. Come. You won’t even be able to stab me. Hahaha.As long as I’m alive, I’m going to take revenge, Jimin. I won’t forget the things you did and said to me. I’ll pay it back for sure. Just wait, Samuel Jackson." [Jimin got compared to Samuel Jackson by hatters]
"Read, Jimin. You messed with the wrong person. Where’s our Shin Jimin’s audacity? You have to come have a one-on-one fight with me. I can go to you, or you can come to me. Come, you wh*re."
"Does your mom feel no remorse at all either? When her own daughter is the cause of someone else’s daughter contemplating death every day".
"Hey Jimin. Is your mom unwell, by any chance? Just respond to me. You’ll see me again anyway."
It's just... so violent. And it is definitly not how a victim of bullying would talk to their bully. It is even the opposite: sending those kind of text is a form of bullying.
Pavictim effect amputa
When i saw those texts, i kinda lost respect for mina. No matter how much i could not like someone, i would never do what mina did to jimin.
Edit: i also want to add, i hope that both mina and jimin get the help and peace they deserve.
I can never say that to my bullies
Y’all are weak because if you bully someone why can’t that person bully you back? Why should someone have to be the bigger person?
She probably talk like that cause she knows jimin in her grasp right now . She think she invincible I guess ?
From the start I knew this is a situation of conflicting personalities not bullying. Jimin was a strict leader under immense pressure and mina is extremely sensitive and take things to heart and very personally. I still think mina had a hard time in aoa and there definitely was conflict between her and jimin but I don't believe jimin was a /bully/ if she was a bully I'm sure one of the members would've noticed but they all acted so clueless like the allegations came out of nowhere. It was a case of clashing personalities between a strict and sensitive person that wasn't addressed by mina to jimin for a decade that lead to this mess.
When the scandal first came out I did feel this too. I've had friends who were either too sensitive and had a victim personality and I had friends who were callous and insensitive at times or too direct. I just thought that if these two types of people were in the same work group or friend group it would definitely come out like this bully scandal. But everyone in the comments were cancelling Jimin already and didn't want to hear her side. This cancel culture has made us the judge, executioner and jury without due process.
Yep. Aside from conflicting personalities, it's also about their difference on how they value professionalism. Both Mina and Jimin were young back then, but Jimin didn't have any choice but to mature faster for she's the leader of the group. On the other hand, Mina isn't the oldest member nor the leader that's why she saw it as an opportunity to laze around.
My thought exactly, from the get go. Also people misunderstood JiMin's apology. She didn't apologize for bullying MiNa, she apologized for failing as leader to notice that MiNa was having such a hard time during all those years. This is why she left AOA and that is what a responsible leader does.
@@bm6093same i feel like mina is too sensitive to take the critcism as plain criticism and instead of doing better and improve, she ends up taking it to heart and turns it to " bullying "
@@y3r1miss1e2 and people believed mina lmao
This is why those highly edited videos about idols who are rumored to be bullies are really problematic and are part of the problem because people believes those videos blindly.
UGH THIS!
And the fact they even refuse to take them down even though they knew the bullying was false
THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS
@@missa4933 not just bullying
But other problem as well
They edited a video out and make rumor when in actuallity the idol literally do nothing and it's the accuser that just want the spotlight
Like Woojin “mistreating members”
When Mina wouldn't let it go, and continued attacking Jimin in the court of public opinion, I really suspected then that Mina was using this for attention, and for revenge for some perceived bullying treatment. And it's a shame that one person ruined all their careers over hurt feelings. Do we not have adults in the World anymore?
I've had friends who were either too sensitive and had a victim personality and I had friends who were callous and insensitive at times or too direct. I just thought that if these two types of people were in the same work group or friend group it would definitely come out like this bully scandal. But everyone in the comments were cancelling Jimin already and didn't want to hear her side. This cancel culture has made us the judge, executioner and jury without due process. Fans are consumers and idols have become products. If fans become more responsible adults as well, we would let these idols live out their lives like normal people and let the courts and their respective companies decide.
I have a victim personality and seeing this news made me aware of my actions and words that I need to speak out in the public.
Always remember that the reason why mina is loek that is also because of mental illness
You saying perceived means you're trying to invalidate that she was ever bullied in the first place when there are countless of times where Jimin showed real insensitivity towards Mina even on camera. Mina's mental decline could be because her bully never really apologized and she retaliated with all this toxicity. This retaliation isn't just from an attention seeking person, she seems like she was really emotionally abused and bullied. I knew people who were really manipulative and attention seeking, always victimizing themselves but Mina to me is a clear example of someone who has suffered some sort of emotional abuse.
Same. I sided with Mina at first but then it just became so suspucious, I just didn't care anymore.
@@delune1329 - No, I say "perceived" because none of us KNOW what really went on. And the transcripts of their conversations paint an entirely different picture of what went down. And sometimes, a crybaby is JUST a crybaby, and not worthy of further consideration. Which I feel is the case here.
It is so obvious what is really going on. Jimin offered and gave apologies, which Mina refuses to accept, or accepts for that moment and then, later, when everyone has gone, she starts to feel the attention (that she craves) dwindling, and so she starts it all up again. That's part of that "Victim" mentality that she exhibits so well. You would know that if you had any real life experience.
Or, her "mental decline" could just be an act for attention, which is definitely what she is coming off as. And I'm not the only one that thinks so, as the court of public opinion has since turned against her. She just will NOT let it go, even though Jimin has resigned from her career and left her company. I mean, what is it going to take? Would Jimin's DEATH be enough to satisfy her? Would that satisfy all the "fans" that have been braying for Jimin's blood ever since this was made public?
Mina definitely needs help - that much is obvious. I believe that she has always been mentally ill with a victim personality. And she needs to stay off social media - that's doing NOTHING good for her reputation.
Jimin had a crucial decision to make, how to deal with a controversy without having any actual credibility. So she left the entertainment industry completely without responding to Mina much. While Mina was posting about Jimin, Jimin was invisible and only made a post or two about Mina, other than that she stayed silent from the public. Furious K-pop stans sent hate comments to her. But from the safety of her home, away from social media, Jimin actually made a savvy move, let Mina have the spotlight. As the political rule of thumb say,"When your opponent is digging his own grave, you don't fight him for the shovel." Jimin's one mistake in this controversy was that she made a vague Instagram story with just the word fiction which gave Mina the opportunity to post a bloody photo of her hand.
This is a smart decision if it was her true intentions. But I believe what she, the rest of AOA and FNC were doing was protecting Mina. You can tell from the chat that the members do care about Mina's health. They did try to help her, but the rest of AOA excluding Jimin, gave up since she was so stubborn (Jimin was the leader, the responsibility was heavy and she didn't have the option of giving up). Whenever some truth leaked out, Mina would upload pictures of self h4rm as if they were evidence that she was bullied, which is obviously not. If the members and FNC speak up, who knows what she would do next? She could've ended her life. The members and FNC were definitely worried about that. They had a lot of evidence. From the chats between the members to security cameras in their buildings to staff members' encounter with Mina. Why not just speak up, clear their names and this whole controversy. They chose not to. Because they ACTUALLY care about Mina.
@@wizone9831 that's what I thought...from the apology and everyone pushing her to apologize despite feeling as though she did not do as she was accused...I think Jimin was overwhelmed with the thought of ruining someone else's life even though she doesn't remember. So I actually agreed with what u said...she might just let Mina be and just accept every thing seeing if she tried to clear or explain her story will bring more harm to herself. She was slut shamed and recieved death threats and cyber bullying too for trying to say 'fiction'.
@@seunghoessangwoo4101 What she said was the truth. Mina seems to be so immersed in her story to the point where she believes it's the truth. It's literally creepy.
@@wizone9831 this is what I thought too. Many people tend to overlook this because they don't want to be in the wrong if something happen to Mina. I honestly it wasn't right to do because they were enabling her to this point and also refused to stay neutral and refused to stop smearing Jimin's name until now. I just hope this stop and everyone calm down and apologize especially to Jimin
@@seunghoessangwoo4101 Exactly. One of the things that made me so made during this scandal was the whole "stay neutral". Everyone said this. But did they? No. You can tell how biased the audience is. When it's their favs who are accused, they pull up the "innocent until proven guilty" but when it's not their favs, they say "believe the victims first". I absolutely hate the "believe the victims first" line. How tf do y'all know who's the victim. Wait until there's solid proof, thank you. And for the "innocent until proven guilty" line, that's what y'all should be saying towards ALL scandals. Don't go around accusing people when there's no proof.
Jimin 🤝 Woojin
Having their lives/careers destroyed because people believed the first accusations they heard right away and didn’t wait for more viable evidence
I was one of those people. Now i absolutely regret my past actions and love them both with all my heart.
They deserves a lot of apologies
I regreted the days where i hated them.
@@luizelima_arts I don't remember what I did in the past but I think I didn't hate Jiminy and I never believed woojin rumors
🤝soojin🤝garam
I think the biggest problem is people only care about it when it was first brought up and not bother enough to stay updated later on. If you look into the Thai stans, none of them side with MIna, because they updated every single post possible and noticed all the red flags from the very beginning.
Good for them because they're smart
Me 2. And I still remember all the insult Mina's fans sent me. They called all crazy stuff. And especially on Jimin's personal TH-cam channel, they insults both her and seolhyun like crazy. 😩
I didnt stay updated because of mines weird ass behavior how she was treating her "trauma" as some reality TH-cam channel and even giving updates I knew once she kept trying to keep this whole thing alive while Jimin was basically blacklisted that mina was just not being completely or at all up front or honest about the situation
I only sided with her cause I've gone through something similar so i just kinda knew how she felt, but after knowing she just made it up and made things worse... I don't even know what to say. I feel so bad for Jimin and for the fact that I defended Mina but also that was the time when most stans stood up for Mina
@@evermia4816 That’s completely valid. I think everyone wants to hear from the victim’s side more, and that is how I think things should be. In this case however, Mina claimed that the members didn’t help her because they didn’t know about this at the time, but she immediately switched up when the words from the other members didn’t do her the favor. I thought it was just her coping mechanism blocking out her memories and just happen to remember it then.
That's why you should always think before hating on someone just on one person's pov.
Well to be fair Jimin didn't handle the controversy right
@@theblacknaruto oh please dude if she actually handled then mina will surely take her on life I hope u get it
@@strawberryruiyang1792 I mean if she did take her own life it's not really anybody's fault, the girl just needs professional help and she hasn't got it.
@@theblacknaruto if she took her own life,knetizens would stone her to death lol
everglow-up started a revolution fr
so true
That girl was pretty much, "hey, stop trying to judge without facts. Let's be neutral."
All hail, queen everglow-up.
@@jayistrying4558 exactly!!! and now here we are😭
i love that channel, not afraid to state the truth that other kpop stans cant accept. brave asf
Ily 🥰
Hopefully Jimin and Mina both can find happiness and peace in their lives after going through so much difficult time especially on social media. These types of situations in the K-pop music people should just stay out of it not interfere
I’m sorry but I sincerely hope Mina goes through what she put the people around her through. I can’t bring myself to hope for her to find happiness
I hope justice can be served before any peace. And that Mina answers for her lies.
Many people were harmed by this and it would unfair for them if it just ended.
@@sumeyaibrahim3811 you probably just feel silly for believing Mina in the first place. That’s just me assuming because no one should feel that strongly about a person they don’t know. Regardless, this is between Jimin and Mina. If there’s one thing fans should’ve learned from this situation, it’s that they shouldn’t be so quick to wish things like this upon these troubled idols. No one is perfect and especially not Mina, but it’s not like she killed someone. she deserves peace in her mind same as you.
jimin find happinnes ? she lost all her brands deal, her career, everything and it's goin to be hard if she make a comeback !
@@ariibryant5557 dude if she comeback mina is not allowing to do her so. A fan commented that they r missing seolhyn and chanmi and wished to comeback like they did nothing wrong. Mina replied WE WILL SEE. U know what that's mean, she will not allow AOA that easily.
Not "unexpected" for everyone. I had a major problem with labeling Jimin a bully without hearing her side of the story. In addition, it was very selfish and wrong of Mina to destroy the careers of Seolhyun, Hyejeong, Yuna, and Chanmi by creating a public scandal for revenge against Jimin. Sadly, this is what happens when you jump on the guilty before proven innocent bandwagon. Many lives are ruined as a result.
This is the reason why the court of law exists
Well, everyone loves to throw the good ol' pitchforks out.
The fact that these people came up with insults on her appearance shows that even if people think you are beautiful, in the back of their minds, they have collective thoughts regarding your appearance. The true colors on what they think of your appearance will show as the flock of sheeps are lead by hate.
Now only u know?
Honestly, it’s T-ARA all over again.
April too. They just had a similar scandal
@@neb.9489 I know, but for them, nobody but Koreans are covering it. There has been little to no coverage on the turn of events for an international audience.
@@jackr1886 do you think you could summarize the turn of events for me? I really loved April but I can't find any updates about what's happened
@@xXInfinityDiesXx Basically many Koreans started to see inconsistencies in her stories that did not make sense. People started to think that she over exaggerate the events, and that what might have happened is not what she said it was. There was video in Korean with English subs that I saw that explained it, but I think it got taken down.
This one channel though showed that the clips of April bullying her were taken out of context. I’ll leave one video below, but they made I think three videos showing that she wasn’t being bullied.
th-cam.com/video/t1H31o8BFtc/w-d-xo.html
Here’s another video:
th-cam.com/video/odKvC6u-J5o/w-d-xo.html
@@jackr1886 wow thank you, those videos were really eye opening. Kinda wish everyone would watch those :(
your video was most definitely one of the main reasons people started turning on her. when the scandal first started a lot of people were being neutral, and waiting to see how it played out up until your shit got out and everyone and their father was talking about it and doing her so dirty
Yes his video was one of the main reasons of this whole turning point but we have to remember there were other TH-cam videos it also influences whole case as well. We as viewers should not be angry and pointer finger only at him we should be pointing the finger at ourselves for believing these influencers without actually the full on picture. He can’t use that old video for money purposes as you can see it’s been demonetized by TH-cam, however we can learn from it as individuals and people that we should never believe what TH-camrs say without the whole truth.
@@keana5487 i get that the point still stands tho
@rindousgf! That’s true they want to preach about Mina’s mental health, but choose bully and talk horrible about Jimin without realizing or regarding the fact that she’s suffering too. Mina is not the only one with health issues all the members are.
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@taepes he was only sharing the information that other people was giving~
I usually let you slide for some harmless misinformations you've made in the past, but this time, enough is enough. You should have done a lot better since you're a kpop news channel. If you truly hold yourself accountable, then you should take down your video since it contains tons of misinformations. If I made tons of mistake on a video like you did, I wouldn't even dare to keep it. It would be truly embarrassing, and for you too.
I get what you’re saying but I don’t agree with him deleting his old video I am actually glad it’s still up there because it allows people/viewers to understand what not to do and situation like this again because situations like this will happen again in the future but now we have evidence on what we should not do without listening to the full story from both sides. This situation is embarrassing for him because of instead of allowing himself to understand the situation at hand he chose to communicate and speak on a topic without getting the full story. With his old video it at least allows us to understand what viewer should do when we are in a situation like this that we shouldn’t listen to these kind of videos without full on evidence because if that was us in those idols situation we Would like for the whole truth to be said not part of the truth or only one side of the story.
@@keana5487 I understand your point regarding him keeping his video. In a way, I kinda agree, but I also disagree. What would be ideal (I highly doubt that would happen) is that InternetsNathan actually deletes the video and then make an actual update of his video and not just of the Jimin-Mina situation. Like he review his old video, and points out what he did wrong, and shows why it's better to stay neutral.
@@bboombayah4662 that is true though he’s not gonna delete the video because it took all the time in him to get and explain the information so he may not of made the video ever however at least TH-cam demonetized it so now you either have a choice as a viewer to watch it or just to not watch it. There’s no way for us to actually be able to stay neutral because again it’s always us as a viewer is always hearing to listen to the victims without actually fully understanding the whole story. And sometimes it’s hard to stay neutral when sometimes the evidence out there not this case in particular but other stories out there is good and is actually facts. I agree with your point and also grew I disagree with what I said but, there’s always two sides to a story and having a video like this on his channel for himself to continue reviewing were at least allow him to remember to never jump to conclusions so quick without actually seeing if there’s more information out there that makes a lot more sense. Plus us as viewers we should always just review videos and comment down what we agreed or disagree without always the full story from both sides.We have to remember that this is his job to come and down about situations like this and our job as viewers it’s just view the continent. We always can have our own comments about the situation and talk about it in their comment section, however we have a choice to watch the video or ignore the video in a not allow TH-cam channels like this to get more views when it comes to the specific topics.
i sincerely hope jimin or one of the "current" aoa members will step up and say or write something. we dont know their perspective yet and i think thats exactly what we need.
Unfortunately, that's almost impossible as FNC already stated from the start that Mina's condition is their priority
@@hilaholo6822 Exactly, if it were possible to do this without harming MiNa's fragile condition, they would've done it right away. There is a reason why none of them are speaking, and it isn't to protect a bully.
mina has no remorse literally, she blamed other members of aoa too just because they're still friends with jimin and made it look like they turned their backs against mina so they would get bashed, like what she did to seolhyun
@@y3r1miss1e2 Yep, she basically destroyed AOA's chance of getting a good last run after Queendom, she destroyed JiMin's carrer, she forced the other 5 members to go on a hiatus for about 9 months, and that hiatus destroyed YuNa and ChanMi's TH-cam channels that were just getting going... and I'm sure I'm forgetting some other destructions...
right, and the fact she lied about how she didnt know of her ex having a relationship while they were dating was pretty f'd up cuz if the leaked conversation wasnt leaked then she would be acting all victim.
If I wanted to thank someone that was everglow up like girl seriously gave the full evidence that mina is manipulating.
and people still had the audacity to say she was lying, everglow up is the only TH-camr that gives exact evidence
@@aesptin true dude she gave full evidence and even changed a lot of people to open their eyes I'm just angry just look at the comment section everyone here is saying Mina's issue but no one mentioning jimin and say jimin bully mina but infant mina is the real snake
Can i have the link to the video??
@@ryleigh7830 th-cam.com/video/k7QbRA7EZHY/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Everglow-Up
same bro that girl doesnt talk without evidence
It's not like they'll learn from their mistake, it'll just going to happen again.
The cycle:
>K-pop star gets accused of doing something traumatic to someone else's life
>it's convenient for the stans to be against the star
>"Always believe the victim first""I'd rather defend a liar than a rpst, if the accuser/s turns out to be the liar/s that's on them, but a rpst?"
>"I knew this person was like this, I could just feel it from the beginning"
>stans flock to the alleged criminal's Instagram and pump & dump vile comments
>reddit moderators doesn't remove these vile comments towards the alleged criminal since it's convenient for them
>videos of "exposing" uploaded to TH-cam
>months passed by, the authority/ies finds out all of this was pulled out of the accusers ass
OR
the alledged victim kept digging the grave deeper while the alleged criminal doesn't fight for the shovel
>reddit moderators ban posts of this news since it's not convenient and to protect the allged victim's mental health
>stans flock to the alleged criminal who turned out to be the victim in this mess and write fake love comments
>"I always knew this person was innocent"
> they don't learn from their mistakes, and another accusation appears
>"maybe it's not like the last time"
>"I think this situation is different from the last one because..."
Thus, the cycle continues
FACTS!!
Exactly! That’s the reason why hwayoung, seo shin ae, klown mina, and flopjoo deserve to be blacklisted…because if they can defame people with absolutely no proof once they can do it again in the future.
@A Peaceful Carat & Cub Who Doesnt Hate Any Group but wasn’t kris jailed?? And I think he did confess and he’s also giving away the other people involved in the scandal I think…
I can’t even say hyunjoos name without being disgusted by her blatant accusations. She provides no proof but rants over and over again the same story with no proof
The sad thing is after cleaning their tarnished name they usually couldn't file a law suit against their accusers for this will only take too much time and other Koreans see it as a petty move to do.
@@alexpark2288 who cares what the people think…if they don’t do who knows how many others are planning to do the same thing and get away with it
This is why I hate when the kpop community literally forces their opinion on everyone and if you don’t you will get lots of hate for it. Not saying I didn’t believe Mina at first but I wasn’t those people sending hate without any evidence. This happens too much and we need to learn to wait for evidence before trying to end people’s careers. Smh kpop community = 🤡
and if you stay neutral, you're automatically a bad guy. it's like no, i just want to wait until everything is out before deciding what my opinion is
@@haliee fr. Until it’s their faves and then they wanna act like a detective or sum. Like can we get evidence for every incident instead of picking who’s career we feel like ruining today
Exactlyyyy, this kinda thing gets super outta hand, especially lately. Literally everyone hops on the bandwagon saying the same shit, and they act like they did something. When stuff like this happens ppl really need to give it time honestly, literally the reason why I just try to stay neutral and see what happens when enough info is out
What urks me the most is most of these people who side with one another immeadiatly search for comments who sides with the "villain" 🤡
Right
"Mina was young" Mina was 18 years old when she debuted, 19 in Korean age. And now she's in her near 30's. There's only 2 years difference between Jimin and Mina. I just wished people would stop bringing up the minor card all the time
I wish people stopped bring up the "they're young" card altogether. It may explain the behaviour, but it will not excuse it
Can we also talk about how this issue might have been a burden to Jimin's mental state? I know that it's a bit far from the topic already, but just think of it that you were accused of doing something horrible, your father died a few months back the issue happened and you had to leave your group who was like a family for her. Mina's sensitivity not only caused Jimin's image and career, but also her life in Korea itself. I hope Jimin will be able to get the justice that she deserves if not at least people who have spoken ill of her will ask sorry for what they did.
Jimin's neighbour stated that she comes out of her apartment rarely just to walk her dog
She's thinner than before.
@@yourmomm That's painful, though. If ever that she didn't do anything wrong (aside from the fact that she is a strict leader, which of course is not a crime), then most k-nets and even some of the international fans have imprisoned her inside her house due to an accusation, right?
I care more about Jimin's mental health than Mina's tbh. She is obviously the one who needs help, yet some international fans are still treating Mina like glass or something, telling us not to push her to suicide. 💀
@@missa4933 i really hate people who manipulate everyone to do what they want or else they threaten to hurt themselves. the worst kind of person really.
@@missa4933 nah I think both. Mina also needs help even if you don't want to care about her... but it is bc she's rly mentally ill haaa.... Jimin needs some love and care... and protection, poor girl.
Still has the title "Jimin the Bully" in the old video....
Everyone owes Jimin a HUGE apology. They hated her for her rapping flow, her voice, her visuals, they even said that she had a Lord Forquaad haircut during the Miniskirt era. In a Queendom performance where Jimin said, “AOA drop it.” Everyone was like, “Congrats Jimin, you just dropped AOA’s entire career.” People flat out bullied this girl for something she did not do. I’m waiting for every hate video to be taken down and every hate comment be edited to apologize.
Lord faarquad is hot
Btw before dispatch released the messages, a TH-camr by the name of Everglow Up did a video about how Mina destroyed AoA, she explains the situation base on the evidence she collected from both Mina, Jimin, AoA staff, and even schedule.
Again the YTer’s name is Everglow Up.
Someone from the company gave out the messages on dispatch, they must be having a hard time already
Well that’s good cause I think they were done with minas bullshit and lies
@@i_aint_gonna_cry4u187 they just fed up mina harming people that around. People give their hands to Mina but she herself doesn't reach them. Even the nurse,her sister
@@ilovehoney3655 honestly I don’t care about Mina…she’s just a nuisance at this point…and her mental health is not an excuse for anything…her bringing Sulli into her shitty life is not the way to go…sulli was a good person…Mina is anything but good…
@@i_aint_gonna_cry4u187 finally!! they should've fired Mina a long time ago!!!
@@ArtIsDrawing if they did she would have manipulated the media to hate on the company as well just like she’s doing it now
Now we know Seolhyun is a REAL freind for staying besides Jimin all those time :
Yes seolhyn is really kind atleast jimin not feel lonely she has seolhyn and her dogs.
Why not take down the video?? People will still use that as a way to demonize Jimin
The way some y'all treated Jimin after the scandal was very telling of the true character of so many kpop fans
I actually was empathetic towards Mina up until she spend a night with someone’s boyfriend knowingly when that news broke I was like Nope this girl aint 100%
Wait, what 😬
You guys better send supportive messages to Jimin as much as you sent hate to her the other day. 💀🙄 No one's mental health would be stable after being cyberbullied like that
NGL it’s also why the whole April thing is kind of in the same boat … I miss APRIL
I feel sorry for AOA. I just recently found Seolhyun 2 days ago and her YT channel. I've been binge watching her content, all the variety shows and she seems really down to earth and relatable. Super different to any idol I've ever seen in terms of personality. She's definitely on the way to becoming my ult bias. She has a pretty rare personality imo I never knew a woman could be like her.
could you pelase provide her YT Channel? Thank you
@@nosananolife9894 Here is her channel th-cam.com/channels/0wIGRaeKQa45ldAfbnYZiw.html
You should most definitely stan Jennie Kim then.
@@edwardkuoch thank you so much!
Actually Seolhyun is really kind :( even Awaken crew (the film she starred in) said that there's only one minus in her, and it was because she's too kind. That crew also said that Seolhyun cried a lot in shootings place because that's the time when this scandal broke in.
Everyone keep thinking about Mina's mental health, but do they even asking about how other members conditions? How Hyejeong just got thinner day by day even though she's been known as the one who eats the most? How's Seolhyun and why she didn't post anything for almost 2years when she's been known as the one who post on Instagram the most before? How's Chanmi life when she took hiatus from youtube when it was her most favorite social media?
I feel so bad for Jimin. All those years we hated on her. Let’s give her all the love and support she deserves now please.
Has it been years?
@Lili 2020
there is no we, only you
@@woah9637 had to agree, people were believing without proof and it was really sickening
You seriously need to take “Jimin is a bully”video down or something. You can own up to your mistakes but actions speak louder than words.
I feel so bad for Jimin
I didn’t really look into the situation last year because I don’t know AOA that much but this year I always saw Mina trending on places so I looked into the situation and watched
Everglow-Up’s videos about AOA,Mina,Jimin and I honestly hope both Jimin and Mina have a healthy and happy life and I hope Mina doesn’t come back to social media
Please learn from your mistake. The hate bandwagon literally destroyed AOA careers when they just finally, rising again after Queendom. Hyejeong cried a lot after Queendom performance because she's too happy that she can perform in front of audience again. But guess what? Because people who just blindly believing Mina, AOA careers are nonexistent again despite their hard works day and night
@@hilaholo6822
What mistake?
I never said I was on Mina’s side last year I said i didn’t look into the situation last year because I didn’t know AOA...so I never took any sides but then I watched Everglow-Up’s videos
And learned about the situation and I hope both of them have happy and healthy life’s
@@KYRofficial_123 I didn't said you were on Mina said. I said learn for your mistake is, because next time, please learn more into the situation, digging up more about the case.
I just told you how much this scandal damaged AOA reputation because almost everyone joined the hate bandwagon
@Synovella isn't it you instead who suddenly jumped into a conclusion?
@@hilaholo6822 what? There is no mistake. This person isn't obligated to care about some k-pop drama to the extent of researching it or taking sides. An event may be life or death for one person and not matter at all to another, or vice versa.
Uhhhh you still didn’t apologize - you were a BIG part of the problem of turning the narrative against Jimin and what’s worse is you got paid and STILL are getting paid for it
I don't think he's getting paid the video is demonized.
@@user-it5gh8w1l but the video has a lots of views that's his second most viewed video and he doesn't even want to delete, private or change the title of that video
@@devi3688 do you not know what demonized is
@Effy Stonem demonetized*
It might be DEMONETIZED but he is getting paid in CLOUT and views
You know that things are gonna be good when an Everglow-Up video is being referenced 🙌👑💖
is no one gonna bring up the fact that mina stole some random person’s self h*rm picture and posted it on her instagram, claimed it as proof of her ‘sufferings’ and then immediately deleted after ppl caught her? honestly that shows a lot about someone’s character and at that moment i stopped keeping up with her deceptions
It’s insane how quickly people will denounce bullying and then go and bully someone else in the same breath
What is truly saddening, and unprofessional, is that you, an experienced TH-camr who is very familiar with the K-pop world, jumped the gun in a very amateur way. You instantly totally believed everything MiNa wrote on Instagram, although it was 100% one-sided and there wasn't a single solid independent fact to support anything she wrote. Didn't the T-Ara story teach you anything? You actively helped destroy Jimin's career. I didn't watch the other video (the summary was clear enough) and I'm not going to watch this one, your excuses are too little too late, I doesn't look like you are apologising, just asking questions, that is really lame.
Yeah.
It's almost as if people make mistakes
@@milacruz3970 Wen people make mistakes, they apologize, they dont issue an "update".
@@JGM0JGM he literally apologized at the start and said he didn't look into it enough also literally EVERYONE believed MINA obviously he probably got caught in it too.
@@JGM0JGM your being dramatic lol
cute video and all but where's the apology for contributing to the destruction of a woman's career?
frr
Take down the previous video or change the title at least! The fact that you still haven't done that shows that you just want to keep getting views from that video and from this new one. You didn't make it to do an update. You don't care about the situation or the people involved, you just want to profit from it. You should be ashamed
What if you delete your other video :)
He won't. It's still up and hater will just use that as an outlet to keep hating on Jimin.
i mean it wasnt really that shocking, if ppl paid attention to minas story then they would’ve seen how much she lied abt stuff💀
also this youtuber is weird asf. If he knows that the information abt jimin in his other video is false then why is it still up….
Apparently according to others, it's because it's monetised and if he deletes it he won't get all that sweet ad money 🤣🤣
@@yueliang1645 wow how pathetic 🙄 smh
@@yueliang1645 yeah its true, this other channel made a video like this which got 2.9M views and have not deleted it + they turned comments off lmao
@@y2klvv taetaepeachy right? But for real, some of these people are so greedy that they're willing to say anything as long as they get paid. Morality and facts? What's that, can I eat it? Lol 🤣
And then when they're proven wrong they just bury their heads in the ground like ostriches 🙄
@@yueliang1645 yeah them. they've also made lots more problematic vids 💀💀
Its crazy how people hate Jimin for "bullying" (She was proven innocent) but yet they cyberbully her?
Exactly
I knew something was off from the beginning...that's why I just watched everything from the side line and stayed neutral the whole time.
sounds alot like what stans would usually say even though they took the alleged victim's side
@@basedandbiasedkakampink what would I get from lying about this? And idrc if u don't believe me lol. I always try to stay far away from scandals like this.
@@basedandbiasedkakampink besides, this has been going on for too long so shouldn't everyone naturally think that somethings wrong with mina too? She always said that she'll get off of social medias but then always came back. And ig she's just really sensitive.
Yeah right 🙄
@@basedandbiasedkakampink sounds alot like you're jealous that u were stupid and took the alleged victim's side? 🤨
Pfft. Jimin’s life is ruined and all y’all can say “sorry, I’ll learn from my mistakes.” “I won’t take sides from now on.” Yeah, right, clowns as f.
Exactly and mina need help like bitch and jimin didnt after she was cypher bullied by the whole internet for years?
Bruh, who are these "we" you talked about? Couldn't even acknowlege that it was _you_ who made a video with a title saying jimin is a bully just because you didn't look into the topic when making it, not even once? This is a video of you mildly admitting you were misinformed, this is not you "holding yourself accountable" or whatever. You would delete the other video or atleast change the title if you are going to even think about being accountable.
And the whole "never pick sides with these things" (spoiler:🙄): a) still not saying you actually believed and spread the lie that she is a bully, b) that happened because you didn't bother to look more info about it, just believed whatever was on top at that time and c) the message of that sentence doesn't do much in your situation - it's quite clear you just wanted youtube fame by making a whatever video that was fueling the social media's stand about it (especially since the video, yk, _is still there the same way it was on day 1_ ). To sum it up, you talked about this as if you weren't with those people who accused of her for those things, again, you have a video title legit saying "Jimin the bully".
When the scandal of Jimin being accused of bullying Mina first came out, I had the thought: “How ironic would it be if the accusations were fake and it comes out later that they were lies? How would all of those who participated in sending hate to the supposed bully feel knowing that they were tricked?” At the time, nobody seemed to want to hear Jimin’s side of the story and if she tried, then they would have just continued to accuse her of trying to make excuses and not take responsibility for her actions. People were very quick to make assumptions because they didn’t want to come across as discounting a victim’s trauma. But who truly became the victim? What happened to “innocent until proven guilty”? The way people perceive the same events can be drastically different. So rather than only taking in one side of the story at face value, both sides should have been given a chance to explain their recollection of the events and come to an understanding of what happened. Especially since, over time, we choose to remember certain memories but can’t remember all of the details. Resulting in a biased portion of the story.
I remember a video I commented on, where they were talking about idols with tattoos and they showed Jimin at the end with a clown emoji on her face and people were laughing about it. Someone said, "Jimin deserves to be harassed for what she did to Mina." And I said, "What should be your punishment when it's proven false?" Because I already saw the inconsistencies and was skeptical about it. Wonder if that video is still up. 🤠
it was kind of hard to take them that seriously once mina was so salty about jimin's dog being dirty??? like i'm sorry did that traumatize her? what? poor dog.
Turns out that no one has cared about Mina more than Jimin herself, she tried her best to keep Mina at the same level of the rest of the group (to also save her from the netizens). She has apologized for everything, and tried to be a support for Mina. I can't even imagine how she must have felt after everything, i miss AOA and i miss Jimin, i wish everything could go back to how it was before the whole group started crumbling after Choa's departure.
BTW NATHAN, you should remove the JIMIN THE BULLY from the last video! That title was just not it.
The best situation from this whole thing is Jimin returning to AOA and the remaining girls continue on as a group without Mina. (I know that’s 99.9% impossible but people like Mina does not deserve to be in the public eye when she is still emotionally unstable and isn’t actively seeking professional help.)
Now people learn a lesson and stop spreading hate for a moment. Bullying is bad PERIODT. But you should stay neutral. Holding people accountable yes. Sure do that but deat* threats, ruining someone's career just because it ain't cute. We all know the Woojin situation. Bless that man that he stood tall even after all that shit. But not everyone is like that. Your one harsh statement will break someone. So be nice if you can, it really helps your mind.
Exactly!
Honestly I feel like even after this incident people will never learn. Like with the Woojin scandal even though he was proven to be innocent, some people are still convinced that he’s guilty even though it’s been proven that he is innocent. The same thing is happening with April (some of Hyunjoo statements contradict with each other). History repeats itself sadly.
@@MochieeeMoon this!!!!!
People who watches Everglow-up already knew this would happen. Mina literally tolerated bullying against mina and content creators who catches her actions.
I'm convinced that some of the people who ask others to "stay neutral" in this issue now but previously were very happy to condemn Jimin are just playing apologist in another way. Sorry but right now you should be condemning the person who lied and destroyed the career of five innocent girls instead of preaching this "fake neutrality". It just makes you look like a hypocrite.
As to those apologists that make excuses like "but what about clips of Jimin being bla bla", "Mina is just troubled", "Jimin apologised for bullying bla bla" or just any "what about" in general, look at the evidence before you speak. Proof, or it didn't happen. If you haven't learned this statement based on all that has happened I have nothing further to say to you.
As to those who try to discredit the evidence and say those people speaking for AOA are biased, if you would rather trust the word of a manipulative liar known to harass and blackmail others over people who have worked in the industry and have been in contact with AOA for years, that says a lot about your own bias than it does for them.
Gaslighting sociopath believes her own guile and insists no one else can be a victim. Sociopaths deny they need help, don’t seek help, and don’t want to change. They want to keep on hurting people.
Kwon Mina herself said that she never had proof that she was bullied and even refused to let the matter be investigated, and no, a bunch of edited clips without context aren't evidence. For some reason people are so intent on hanging on to those clips as evidence even as they consider clips that show them in a good light are manipulated. So if they think clips of them being friendly can be easily manipulated, why do they think those showing them in a bad light are not manipulated? Either clips can or cannot be manipulated, which one is it?
I also wonder why people keep saying that there is a possibility than Jimin actually bullied people when
a) her groupmates do not know what "bullying" Mina was accusing Jimin of, including Hyejeong and Yuna who are supposedly Mina's best friends (Hyejeong even asked people to support Jimin too).
b) people (managers etc.) who have worked with AOA for years say otherwise.
c) The only thing Jimin apologised was for being strict, and this was confirmed by the members. They also confirmed they had a hard time getting Mina to follow in practises. Funny how none of them think Jimin being strict is bullying (but they were irritated at times which is understandable) but only Mina does, right? And also all of them are working hard but Mina is taking breaks even on her schedule? Is it even a wonder, then, that Jimin is harsh on her?
Point to note, all this came from the members themselves and people who've been working with AOA since their debut, either in the newly released texts or in their earlier posts during the incident. So I don't know why people think they're untrustworthy. I mean, you're not going to argue that Jimin is so powerful that she's able to control how other speak of her, right? Even if that was the case she is literally out of the industry so why would people be afraid to speak against her? And why would Hyejeong defend her? I'm sure people won't imply that Hyejeong was a bystander working against Mina... or maybe they will, idk.
And that's still not counting the instances where Mina has flip-flopped in her story. So many times, all without proof so why is she believable again?
In conclusion, I believe that from the above Jimin has never bullied and it is gross injustice that she lost her career over a lie. And I implore people who consider alleged "bullies" being put out of career as justified to consider this: what if that person you went after did nothing wrong? How are you going to compensate them for their loss? I can say, not many will care because it didn't happen to them. All they'll say is too bad. This disastrous consequences a falsely accused person has to face is why I'd usually side with the accused if I didn't manage to stay out of the issue (case by case, depending on their record), because no amount of apologies can give a person who was falsely accused their previous life and career back, whereas if you initially did not believe someone a victim you could just apologize for that. Maybe to other people it is calculative but that's what I believe in because last time I checked, not getting believed isn't more harmful than having your career and life taken away just because of a false accusation.
I dislike people who went after Jimin over these false accusations and are still moving goalposts even when the facts say otherwise, but I pray that this same situation never befalls them, and if it does.. I pray that they will make it through well enough.
She needs to be held accountable
Dispatch being the villain of kpop for a long time, just to drop a bomb like this as a vigilante
Mina overpower people's trust on her, now she doing just shits than getting out of social media, it seems that she just wants attention she literally is in the media every month sometimes week
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I also find it weird that every time jimin said she didn't remember what she did all Mina could say was wow never pointed out specifically what she did
Poor Jimin, she reminds me of the Jessica Rabbit line from Who Framed Roger Rabbit, "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way."
just like the entire woojin situation, woojin was literally innocent. people need to start asking for proof.
When you bully an alleged bully, you are the bully. So many people are quick to judge given the information at the time, and would even monetize it by making reaction videos. Then when new info comes to light, they'll post an update reaction video, leading to more monetization. Not saying it is wrong, but there is a business of reacting and hating that is existent.
Why be the bigger person? When someone tortures you for years people respond in different ways.
@@JakeReeves001 no one tortured anyone for ten years
Its so suspicious the fact that Kwon Mina Keeps coming back whenever she gets no more attention and whenever everyone focuses on someone else LIKE WHAAAAT DOO YOU NEEED💀
She really needs therapy but SK isn’t the country that can provide it
Jimin stan out of the cave now lol
I'm glad you didn't delete the previous video and made an update. I think it's important for people to know what was misreported, based on the info that was out there at the time, so that way they can understand what is being updated/corrected. Thank you for the upload.
This TH-camr is one example of misreporting this story, he wasn't victim of misreporting. He heard one side, saw no evidence, but decided to make up his mind and started the ball rolling regarding JiMin being an evil bitch who bullied someone for ten years (he didn't use those words but his fans did by the dozens.).
@@JGM0JGM idk wtf you're talking about, nor did I call anyone a victim (nice try), nor do I care about your random Internet melodrama. Bye.
@@NONPOINT420 Not a single word was about you at all, unless you are "This TH-camr".
For those unfamiliar with the story, I was pointing out that this channel wasn't unknowingly fooled by misreporting, it was one of the sources of said misreporting. It is an important difference that is worth pointing out.
Not sure what melodrama you are talking about....
And for people to reread their comments on the issue which only based on misreported news. Lessons not only for the reporter but to netizens as well, to be critical.
But still it could be misleading to some people. Tell me, what will a non-Kpop fan react when they see the thumbnail of video saying "Jimin the bully" without researching further. Just by that it could cause further misunderstanding.
After, t-ara you guys never learn.
Damn.. I really do miss Jimin she is one of a kind
Fr..I love her songs
Hey, God and Puss
I want to say sorry to Jimin because I was hating on her after the news broke out. I am so sorry you didn't deserve any of those hate. May this incident be solved and justice be served 🤞🤞
Bro just remove your first video...damage have been done...But still .. please delete that video..you termed Jimin as bully without a real proof...? And just believed Mina's half assed lies...are you doing this for views?..yes it seems that is the case....🙂
Nathan, please take the misleading video down. It is really irresponsible. Many of us have been asking you to make an update and bring that video down, yes you did make an update, but what about the video that’s still hanging there? Please stop caring about the views and take it down.
Why I barely trust most of kpop stans (even tho I'm the one)? Well...
News about Jimin bullying Mina drop.
Kpop fans: hates Jimin, normalizes cyberbullying, cancels Jimin.
Mina continues to be drama queen on Instagram.
Kpop fans: disappointed because victim is not acting the way they wanted her and criticize Mina this time.
Dispatch published conversation between the two of them:
Are angry at Mina, because they are so easy to fool.
Sorry, but your emotions are fake. Many people don't really care about Mina or Jimin, they just care about some drama. How many people who terrorised Jimin last year, were actually a fans of AOA or Mina? That's the saddest thing
Does he (this youtuber) not realize he contributed to Jimins downfall, to all the hate and abuse directed at her? When the scandal first broke he immediately jumped to defending Mina when she had no solid proof, and it was all one sided. He really just wanted views, I mean his video is still up and he hasn’t even edited to title or anything. And when people demand you apologize, what do you do? You issue an ‘update’ on the situation. You sir are directly part of the problem in all of this. I feel embarrassed for you.
Jimin is strong omg can't stay with a manipulative person in the same room for even for an hour.. that would be ww3
I laughed at the WW3 part, lol
i felt bad for jimin actually. when this drama was still new, i tried telling people that ruining jimin’s life isn't gonna fix anything. yet they didn't listened and just kept on bullying her. they bullied her voice, appearance. everything about her.
It seems like Mina was looking for a person to blame for how she was feeling and Jimin was the perfect person because she didn’t back down like everyone else.
edit -- I prefer you apologies to Jimin bcoz of your lack of information and bcoz of supporting Mina she end up leaving her career. You're TH-camr you should be responsible for your incomplete information. I hope you apologies to Jimin. Otherwise don't call yourself helper to victim bcoz in this case she is also victim just she not crying everywhere. Learn from mistake and apologies to Jimin.
How funny is this that when a person blame someone people start believing with blind eyes. Believing someone is not bad but people don't even see around. And bcoz of that they destroy someone's future and life. I don't like AOA, I don't like Jimin at all. But I remember people using Jessi clip for claiming that Jimin is not good person. Now what, the way everyone change their side make me laugh at all those who blame Jimin. All of those people destroy her life and future. Now she is not part of dream she want to be. How easy this is for all of you.
World is really something. Thank God I at least don't send hate comments or death threats to someone and try to understand surrounding too. Congratulations to destroy once life.
I'm not a fan so I don't take side when all these blew up but when Mina attacked Jimin on her sexual life I was like hellll no gurl you're going too far this doesn't make u any different from the bully.
lmaooo you said your video comes up first but you have to scroll 😂
I have to admit i feel stupid, When i first heard about this. I thought Jimin was the worst human being on the planet. Just goes to show you can't believe everything from one side.Mina you need help seriously. and i really feel bad for the rest of the members of AOA, There group is dead because of this.
Then learn from your mistake. The hate bandwagon literally destroyed AOA careers when they just finally, rising again after Queendom. Hyejeong cried a lot after Queendom performance because she's too happy that she can perform in front of audience again. But guess what? Because people like you, they careers are nonexistent again despite their hard works day and night
I got banned on Twitter from mass reports because I said for people to believe Jimin and to stay neutral , the story was always off and how quick everyone attacked Jimin was just based off of people taking the oppuortnity to bully , Mina has a special place in 🔥
People who always plays the victim are scarier than a person who screams😑
When case Jimin bullied Mina appears in videos - 1.5M view
When twist happen today - 50k views
What netizen hypocrisy.
the video's not even a week old tf 💀
Dude the other video is like 1 year old give it some time
KMA is a bully. I think Jimin should get a restraining order against her and *never* make contact with her again.
I always thought American industry was worse, but the KPOP industry is even worse than the old American industry. There's this girl from G-Idle, her story is heartbreaking. Imagine people calling you bully because of your elementary or primary school behaviour or calling you bad coz you used to smoke or drink alcohol. I hope that girl get signed to a better agency, she's very talented. This is the reason matters are solved in the court because the mob justice tend to crucify innocent people.
I think you’re talking about soojin…yea it’s pretty heartbreaking after what that flop actress did to her…
yeah like people grow after they get older!!!
@@i_aint_gonna_cry4u187 not only that, there were that sisters who started all of these nonsense, and then they dug a grave deeper than the Marianas trench by committing crimes left and right against Soojin's family, like attempting to murder and habitually harrassing her mother, stealing her sister's identity, and possibly perjury. I think that Flop Actress Seo Shin Ae, deserved to get the same Treatment Ayane Sakura got just for voicing Gabi Braun, a polarizing character from the popular series Attack on Titan for her actions against a fan favorite. Wait, why am I comparing Ayane Sakura, a consistent and very talented voice actress and singer to that failure? It is an insult for Ayane Sakura to be compared to that failure known as Seo Shin Ae, who might be secretly running a crime ring, aling with the two sisters.
jimin im so sorry for trusting mina
Not everyone bought what mina was selling. I never believed her, and actually thought she was bulling Jimin. I thought the situation seemed too much like t-ara. I hope this is a learning experience for people to not believe everything they hear.
Even though you apologized for the video you still didn't delete it and that shows something
If Mina just shut up and stop being on social media, until now, she may have still the public's sympathy, but she dug up her own grave. And now, the table have flipped
For real like I don’t understand what was the point of her constant communicating about the situation it is over with so you don’t have to keep talking about it. People were on her side until she kept bringing it up and not for filling her promise which was a stay off the Internet. This whole situation backfired on her because she didn’t know or didn’t want to shut up about it. People that are in her “situation” wouldn’t keep bringing up their trauma they would end up letting it go because it’s over with and it’s done.
@@keana5487 ikrr, like most people got bullied! but do they keep talking about it? nope, they ignore it and try to do better themselves!
@@ArtIsDrawing For real! Mina needs to learn how to shut her mouth because all her words are doing are digging her in a pit.
you contributed to the hate wave on jimin you have to take accountability and apologize. You have ab big platform yet u took the time to hate on a member then come back and say ur wrong and not apologize like really? people had to tell you to make an update ! yet you continued to spread incorrect information people were telling u minas story might not be all true and to not pick a side an that's exactly what u did . you only made this video because you know u were in the wrong but a simple ''im sorry' for contributing to hate on a person.
Jimin has been innocent since the start. I just hate everyone now.
The most sad thing that this drama affected the groups in their company not only the group. I saw alot of people that didn’t want to check or stan cherry bullet and p1harmony (their rookie groups) or SF9.
It’s not their fault and of groups are on of the best 4th gen groups. I really wish them a better company and future. I wish they become more successful.
Jimin, AOA members and the staff should get a reward for
“Not going nuts after working with a psycho woman for years”