I can understand your argument for less than maybe 5-7 miles. At 25° outside, even walking that distance could be extremely dangerous. Take away all the SHTF stuff and just hypothetically say I needed to walk home from work. I live 54 miles away from work and will need supplies for my walk home. Even if the environment is safe and non life threatening, I still need water, food, clothing, and shelter (assuming hypothetically that nobody would help me during that time).
I agree. My thought is to get back asap. Get a vehicle, help from someone with transportation, or my plan for search and rescue. Trying to make it for weeks would not work. For that planning to survive for weeks (how most BoBs are built) will not be necessary. Just my plan. It doesn't fit everyone.
A bit late to the party with a minor nit to pick. What if you do get home, but it isnt home anymore? Let's say that, among other disasters, there was a house fire? You make it home those three hundred miles only to find out you need to get to an alternate location. A few durable items would indeed be helpful. Small things like a way to purify water and a poncho would go a long way to keep you alive long enough to find somewhere safe. It also depends on where you live. I live in a fairly urban area, and its not unheard of for a freeway to get shut down with no way off. Sometimes people do have to abandon their vehicles and walk home. If someone works in an office and then is faced with this situation, having a pair of boots and a jacket in their vehicle to complement such a kit seems like a good idea. Or, what if someone is travelling with their family? Having zero extra water or shelter might be reasonable for you, but not for toddlers. My point is this: you have clearly thought about what works for you, and that fine. But it does seem like you might be discounting some of the preparation others are doing because they find it necessary in their specific circumstances.
Never late an i will always reply. Sometimes coments are only seen in TH-cam studio, so i dont see them right away but, it will reply. That's correct. So I made the video based on two things. Why do others overkill single items. Like 5 ways to do one thing when you only have limited space. To me, that doesn't make sense, so I showed how you can be minimalistic and still get home. Sometimes less can be better. Also, the 2nd idea was specifically how I would do it. How I would pack a GHB different. If I was to make more of a general GHB video, to include everyones personal situation, it wouldn't involve my situation. I live 300 miles from a major city. 1 hour from a fairly small city. I do not have kids or family to worry about. There are lots of factors to consider on a personal level per situation. An elderly woman caring for grandkids will not have the same bag as a SEAL on home leave. If I get home and my house is on fire or I'm not able to access it. That is a different plan. My poke at some people that build these bags, and over kill these bags, I feel, is appropriate. They are fit fairly young, capable males that are only walking 10 miles. Yes, you don't need all that stuff. I have done it many times with nothing. Might some people need 7 knives, well maybe.
You are on the right track with a minimalist approach. In my opinion, a Get Home Bag or any other prep bag should be designed to give you the maximum options for a minimum of three scenarios of varying likelihood, allowing you to ditch what you don't need at the time of the specific crisis. A Get Home Bag should be geared for your most likely use case, which for most people is to get home from work, typically a distance of 20 miles or less, but prepped for your least likely case, an EMP/Zombie Apocalypse. Even the US is a very dangerous place right now with people looting stores with no breakdown in civil authority and has been for several years. I agree you will most likely be able to find what you need on the way home, but even in the best of circumstances, make plans that you will not be able to do so. With these thoughts in mind and planning only for yourself, your Get Home Bag should have at a bare minimum 72 hours (9,000 calories being 3,000 per day times 3 days) and 3 bottles of water as even a 20 mile walk during civil unrest could take much longer than anticipated, especially if you are forced to start at night. Hopefully, you have more water in your vehicle and can super hydrate yourself prior to abandoning the vehicle. Water is essential to brain function and once you start to dehydrate, which you will on a 20 mile walk, your thought processes will be in jeopardy. Your brain is your number one survival tool. The food is for your body, which is your number two survival tool. The food plus water should comprise the majority of the weight of you will carry. Don't worry, this is self-correcting weight, meaning as you use it, your load will lighten quickly. A light, such as a headlamp or small flashlight is your number three survival tool, but this does mean you must also include at least one additional set of batteries. Your pockets are your best storage system, followed by a sturdy belt to which you can attach water bottles and other equipment as this keeps your stuff with you and on you at all times. Your bag should not be a bag, instead you should have a wool blanket in which you can roll the majority of your food and water, tie with decent cordage, and use a large neckerchief/scarf or similar item to use as straps. You can find videos showing how to do this. The wool blanket is your number four survival tool. Items which take up little bulk and weight which would also be useful to have prepped are socks and blister care. The fifth best tool for survival, especially in the event of a crisis which shuts down automotive traffic, such as an EMP/Zombie scenario, but which would also be extremely useful in the most likely crisis of walking home 20 miles, is a bicycle. Fold up bikes you can carry in your car are pretty cheap and would save untold hours in a get home scenario. If you can't carry a bike, maybe your first target in your walk home should be a Walmart to acquire a bike. We should note the plans above are designed to save yourself and yourself only. In the event of a civil breakdown or at anytime when you might be forced to abandon your vehicle, will others need your help and as a prepped individual and a good citizen, will you help others and do you need to prep supplies now to do so? One good prep plan might be to create a scaled down Get Home Bag consisting of a bottle of water and 3,000 calories, a survival blanket, a lighter, and a small flashlight in a fanny pack which you could either carry on your own waist, increasing your personal survival to a guaranteed 96 hours, or handing off to whoever joins you so they have 24 hours of survival potential. This allows you to build redundancy into your prepped vehicle supplies without the ridiculousness of carrying the typically useless extra weight unless the situation calls for it, giving you the most options at the exact time you need options. You could carry this a step further by creating another of the same 24 hour kit, but instead of being in a fanny pack this time, it is all in a pair of cargo pants, which you can wear yourself or give to a member of your party who is clothed inappropriately for the weather at hand, as is very common among females in our society. And/or the same 24 hour kit in a nylon rain jacket or in a fishing vest or countless other ways, allowing you to prep as much as you want and use as you see needed. Again, I think you are on the right track and I also agree thinking about prepping for these situations is fun, so I hope you enjoy my thoughts above even if you do not use them yourself.
Thank you very much for the in-depth response. I respect that, and it shows you think things out. First, i want to mention something important. I fully understand why people pack Preps for multiple possibilities. I wanted to make this video to highlight my situation. It's not normal being a state away compared to 20 miles. I should have put more emphasis on that. If you are subscribed, you know I don't plan my videos much. No story boards, no script, I just sit and let it out and normally quite tired too, haha. What you explained as your setup seems reasonable and thought out. I took a little stab at other preppers- videos because most preppers here on youtube have ridiculous amount of supplies in their bags. Comical, actually. Another thing I want to rehash is most of my prepping videos are to spark self thinking. Not to just do what people say is right. To look at a situation from a 30,000-foot view so-to-speak. My rare situation, that some others may share, is quite different. If you have a 30 day hike home, a gallon of water will not do me much good as a filter is much better. 72 hours of food will not really help. I have a much, much bigger problem that needs focus. For me those types of items may only cushion the issue by 5% - 7%. So I need to focus on the more impact of the 97% of the situation. This will most likely involve non-conventional means to achieve my goal. Those do not fit in a bag. Most people think conventionally. Fine in most cases. Not mine. So it's not so much about being minimalistic. It's more about what will really need to happen to get home. Again for me. All of us as preppers, have a common mindset. All of us are also individuals. To many people's disagreement, there is not one do all answer to any of it. Not one bug-out bag, food pantry, or bomb shelter fits everyone. Our individualistic critical thinking is our most important prep. Again, thanks for the comment. Peace, to you and your loved ones!
You dont need a lot of food. People overthink the food. Ive tested it, when i walked 31miles in 9hours... It was water i needed and some elektrolytes... No big meals or anything like that... Dont overdo it... First aid for your feet! Trauma kit but if you need that, your already fucked... Your ghb should be a edc bag type style thing... Poncho, warm clothes like a beenie or woolshirt can help a lot... Multitool, sak and a lamp, water a lot of water... I also carry other stuff... But only in a bag of 15L. Bin working on it for 7 years.... Started with 30L... After so many years of testing.... I have now the perfect bag for me. think realistic.
65+ miles from home. I live in the desert, southwest. I calculate approx 24 hours plus rest time so 36 to 48 hours. Minimalism would be a requirement. Water will constitute more than half the weight i will carry.
Yes, I've done my share of hiking in AZ. Never that far but 8 months out of the year, water is important. I've done 7 miles without water but in shaded trees. Camelback style packs are the way I went.lots of places to put stuff too.
About 10 miles from home on a normal day. Water, snack, weather appropriate clothing, torch, high viz item so I don’t get killed on narrow lanes. I’ll have my usual EDC, phone, small power bank, cable. Basic first aid, wallet. Etc. travel light and fast. UK, bugging out is not an option, if I had to leave my home permanently, I’d plan on going by car, take my camping gear, at least as far as I could.
I work 17 miles from home. Once a month, I will hike 15 miles to practice. Trust me, minimum weight carried is better! To go that far I need 3 liters of water, 4 ibuprofen, fresh socks, and some caffeine! I have seen videos of 50+ pound packs, I know those people won't be able to go many miles. No need to steal a car after an emp, they won't work, lol 😆
I think some will if not all. One reasoni dont pack a large bag im not that worried about an EMP. I am releasing a video soon on debunking EMP. I know most people in the field are worried, but I only have the concrete information that's been out. Who knows I may be off. Let me know.
A couple of days back my wife got in the car with 100miles in the tank. She got stuck in traffic and was basically standing on the highway and it took her 3 hours to go home from work. At 6pm, in the dark, in hard rain at about 35 degrees. The car was basically running on a scent when she made it to the closest gas station 7miles down the road. She was wearing a down jacket and sneakers but it was hard rain. 15 Minutes walking and the down jacket would just be a wet pillow (no matter the water repellent outside). If she had to walk back home for 7 more miles, starting at 6pm, in the dark with rain pouring down things might have gotten more serious. Therefore I disagree that a dire situation is relatively unlikely. Zombie Apocalypse, EMP, Nuclear bombs => unlikely. Running out of gas in the middle of a traffic jam => happens all the time. I do agree to a degree though. 35 pounds on your back is 100% nonsense considering that you will very unlikely spend more than 1 night outside. But a smaller bag of 15 pounds might save your behind sooner than you want it to.
Thanks for sharing that. I'm glad she got home safe. It does happen and even overheating in the summer. I do try to keep my tank above half and always a bottle of water for those situations. More so in the winter, but I should be better at all times. Thanks for that.
I think you are asking a lot of a mylar emergency blanket to last three weeks getting home. I'm all for minimal gear, but my idea of minimal warmth and shelter is a poncho and Swagman Roll. I really don't want to go any more minimal than that.
Just sub’d. small prepper channel here, just ran across your video. Traveling light is definitely a good idea. Location has everything to do with choosing the right items though. Blessings..
Light and using resources along the way is a good long-term get home plan. Since this video, I have changed routes. I'll be updating, but still the same mindset
Well most likely. A hand gun is small and compact yet effective. IF I end up having to walk, it's bad and a possibility of my life being in danger goes up. Yet still very low. To further your point something like a bat can be used as a deturent and a tool. The only drawback is the size and weight. For options, there should be many similar tools to be picked up on the way home. I believe a handgun maxes out capabilities in a small package, though.
I understand a lot of my content is against the popular thought process. No insult taken. I realize, in a worst case senerio, all of us will have to make decisions we are not comfortable with. Do things we would never have thought. If we get EMP'ed, not only will positivity drop, but all rules will be out the window. I'm a kinda quiet person with Christian values. I wish no harm to anyone. In this very low probability, it's survive or don't survive. I'll keep my options open to be on the better half of that.
I like the bare minimum approach, also I'm missing some essentials: first aid/trauma kit (you've got something to make holes in bodies so you should have something to fix those), taking care of blisters or better: prevent them (moleskin), water purification tablets as Sawyer filters only bacteria and not viruses, flashlight or better headlamp with low/medium/high mode and spare battery (depending on runtime vs. time it takes you to get home), Hot Hands/Feet (transportable warmth), FFP3 mask with a valve (3 minutes without air...), rain protection (umbrella, poncho, DWR coat), insulated seating pad that protects your b*tt from cold & wet, knife and/or multi-tool (e.g. cut through fence wire), worker gloves (you may need to move stuff, handle glass, etc.), a bag/rucksack/collapsible tote to carry stuff (you've purchased), paper map of the area you have to cross to get home - ideally something that shows walking/bicycle ways and small roads plus should have topographical information, a compass.
I do have all of those things and may be taking a certain level of chance by not having them. As of now, I don't run a BOB. If I decide to make a couple for us, it will include all the good, important supplies.
I am building a get home bag for my son. He works 77 miles or 135 miles, depending on what sight he's on that day. To me, that equates 4 or 10 plus days walking. Light weight ,minimalist yet useful bag is my goal.
I would just be weary of unnecessary things. I agree that everyone will have different needs. Even locking a bike to a vehicle might be a stretch, but also a deal breaker if walking long distances would be an issue. I mostly wanted to address the over complicated bags I see on this platform.
I formerly was a robust person, and was not afraid to walk all day, I could walk barefoot most of the year. Now due to working, and getting older, I can barely walk to the mail box. So, there are different needs for different people. The things I've had to give up doing because My body is giving out, is numerous. In my younger days, I would take you at any challenge, but now, am at enormous disadvantage. If compiling a list or a bag, I need more now than you do, and the more the merrier. As I am basically immobile. When deciding what is good for one, you might want to think, what is good for all. Good for you, you are strong. You can brag about it, until, you are no longer strong. The day will come.@@bluefoothomestead9358
IMO, the reason we prep is for the unknown. Sure, we can assume we will only need a GHB for the 10mile trek from the office but what about the time you’re on a family trip and in the middle of nowhere. What about if you are caught between a natural disaster, wouldn’t you want a bag with items such as gas mask if you have to drive through a wildfire? My point is, it’s better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. You can always barter or dump the items you don’t need.
Thanks for the commebt. Single items I understand, so many people overkill backups. 10 ways to start a fire in Miami doesn't make sense. A family camping trip in a fire prone area, during the fire season, absolutely masks are a good idea. I just don't put it in the group of a staple item. More of a specific one. I am rethinking my plan, though. I'm going to different places now and I am going to build one accordingly. More items, btw. It should be a good video with important things no one talks about regarding the GHB plan.
On the road minimum 16 days a month. Average of 200-250 miles from home in a company vehicle. I have pondered this dilemna alot and still don't have a great solution.
Hey Blue Foot Homestead! Just FYI! For Transportation as you might have a need for it? Instead of a bunch of jiggly lock picks in your pocket? Have you ever heard of a "Flathead Screw Driver"?
I totally get your minimalist approach which I believe is more focused on the urban to suburban get home situation. In this case the one thing I recommend you carry is whatever meds you need to take on a daily basis. If you have high blood pressure, diabetes, asthma, serious allergies, or any chronic illness or condition, carry at least 2 days worth of meds. This is way more important than any other prepping gear. What use is a knife, gun, blanket, cordage, freeze-dried food etc when you're near passing out from low blood suger or high blood pressure, half suffocating from asthma/allergies or doubled over in pain from your herniated disk or that highschool football knee injury? And taking the "Chems" approach to prepping further, keeping some on you can not only be a great morale booster but can also be a source of barter or ice breaker. Where I'm from, a lot of people still smoke heavily so I keep a pack or 2 of cigarettes in my car. You won't believe how quickly a stranger will lower his guard and reply kindly to your questions if you offer them a smoke first. Now imagine a heavy smoker who'd been denied tobacco for days. He'd be willing to hand over a dozen bullets or other supplies just for a fresh pack of cigs. And cigarettes can keep a flame going as long as you puff, good for lighting fires. The same with alcohol and sugar. When times are the darkest, you can always count on a hip flask of whiskey and a handful of hard candies. They will give you the mental and physical boost to get you thru that long day and possibly night of trudging home.
You have some good points Alot of people smoke in Missouri. Most I know buy pack by pack. They will run out quick and is a great barter tool and/or things you mentioned.
My ghb includes the junk I carry around for fun, and just the things I might need for an unplanned overnight somewhere, whether it’s cause I have to walk 20-30miles home, or I have to stay in town for the night for some reason. No fishing gear, no hatchets, no giant knives or anything goofy. But i like to know i have some basic necessities even if i cant go home every night.
For sure. I do have things I use for work with me at most times. Pocket knife, flashlight, and maybe a snack. EDC if you will. I do know, for me, the first 48 hours I will not be sleeping. I will be far from relaxed in my trip to get home. 1 goal.
To each his own but nature don't work on human time as planned.
I can understand your argument for less than maybe 5-7 miles. At 25° outside, even walking that distance could be extremely dangerous. Take away all the SHTF stuff and just hypothetically say I needed to walk home from work. I live 54 miles away from work and will need supplies for my walk home. Even if the environment is safe and non life threatening, I still need water, food, clothing, and shelter (assuming hypothetically that nobody would help me during that time).
I agree. My thought is to get back asap. Get a vehicle, help from someone with transportation, or my plan for search and rescue. Trying to make it for weeks would not work. For that planning to survive for weeks (how most BoBs are built) will not be necessary.
Just my plan. It doesn't fit everyone.
A bit late to the party with a minor nit to pick.
What if you do get home, but it isnt home anymore?
Let's say that, among other disasters, there was a house fire?
You make it home those three hundred miles only to find out you need to get to an alternate location.
A few durable items would indeed be helpful. Small things like a way to purify water and a poncho would go a long way to keep you alive long enough to find somewhere safe.
It also depends on where you live. I live in a fairly urban area, and its not unheard of for a freeway to get shut down with no way off. Sometimes people do have to abandon their vehicles and walk home. If someone works in an office and then is faced with this situation, having a pair of boots and a jacket in their vehicle to complement such a kit seems like a good idea.
Or, what if someone is travelling with their family? Having zero extra water or shelter might be reasonable for you, but not for toddlers.
My point is this: you have clearly thought about what works for you, and that fine.
But it does seem like you might be discounting some of the preparation others are doing because they find it necessary in their specific circumstances.
Never late an i will always reply. Sometimes coments are only seen in TH-cam studio, so i dont see them right away but, it will reply. That's correct. So I made the video based on two things. Why do others overkill single items. Like 5 ways to do one thing when you only have limited space. To me, that doesn't make sense, so I showed how you can be minimalistic and still get home. Sometimes less can be better. Also, the 2nd idea was specifically how I would do it. How I would pack a GHB different.
If I was to make more of a general GHB video, to include everyones personal situation, it wouldn't involve my situation. I live 300 miles from a major city. 1 hour from a fairly small city. I do not have kids or family to worry about. There are lots of factors to consider on a personal level per situation. An elderly woman caring for grandkids will not have the same bag as a SEAL on home leave.
If I get home and my house is on fire or I'm not able to access it. That is a different plan.
My poke at some people that build these bags, and over kill these bags, I feel, is appropriate. They are fit fairly young, capable males that are only walking 10 miles. Yes, you don't need all that stuff. I have done it many times with nothing. Might some people need 7 knives, well maybe.
You are on the right track with a minimalist approach. In my opinion, a Get Home Bag or any other prep bag should be designed to give you the maximum options for a minimum of three scenarios of varying likelihood, allowing you to ditch what you don't need at the time of the specific crisis. A Get Home Bag should be geared for your most likely use case, which for most people is to get home from work, typically a distance of 20 miles or less, but prepped for your least likely case, an EMP/Zombie Apocalypse. Even the US is a very dangerous place right now with people looting stores with no breakdown in civil authority and has been for several years. I agree you will most likely be able to find what you need on the way home, but even in the best of circumstances, make plans that you will not be able to do so. With these thoughts in mind and planning only for yourself, your Get Home Bag should have at a bare minimum 72 hours (9,000 calories being 3,000 per day times 3 days) and 3 bottles of water as even a 20 mile walk during civil unrest could take much longer than anticipated, especially if you are forced to start at night. Hopefully, you have more water in your vehicle and can super hydrate yourself prior to abandoning the vehicle. Water is essential to brain function and once you start to dehydrate, which you will on a 20 mile walk, your thought processes will be in jeopardy. Your brain is your number one survival tool. The food is for your body, which is your number two survival tool. The food plus water should comprise the majority of the weight of you will carry. Don't worry, this is self-correcting weight, meaning as you use it, your load will lighten quickly. A light, such as a headlamp or small flashlight is your number three survival tool, but this does mean you must also include at least one additional set of batteries. Your pockets are your best storage system, followed by a sturdy belt to which you can attach water bottles and other equipment as this keeps your stuff with you and on you at all times. Your bag should not be a bag, instead you should have a wool blanket in which you can roll the majority of your food and water, tie with decent cordage, and use a large neckerchief/scarf or similar item to use as straps. You can find videos showing how to do this. The wool blanket is your number four survival tool. Items which take up little bulk and weight which would also be useful to have prepped are socks and blister care. The fifth best tool for survival, especially in the event of a crisis which shuts down automotive traffic, such as an EMP/Zombie scenario, but which would also be extremely useful in the most likely crisis of walking home 20 miles, is a bicycle. Fold up bikes you can carry in your car are pretty cheap and would save untold hours in a get home scenario. If you can't carry a bike, maybe your first target in your walk home should be a Walmart to acquire a bike. We should note the plans above are designed to save yourself and yourself only. In the event of a civil breakdown or at anytime when you might be forced to abandon your vehicle, will others need your help and as a prepped individual and a good citizen, will you help others and do you need to prep supplies now to do so? One good prep plan might be to create a scaled down Get Home Bag consisting of a bottle of water and 3,000 calories, a survival blanket, a lighter, and a small flashlight in a fanny pack which you could either carry on your own waist, increasing your personal survival to a guaranteed 96 hours, or handing off to whoever joins you so they have 24 hours of survival potential. This allows you to build redundancy into your prepped vehicle supplies without the ridiculousness of carrying the typically useless extra weight unless the situation calls for it, giving you the most options at the exact time you need options. You could carry this a step further by creating another of the same 24 hour kit, but instead of being in a fanny pack this time, it is all in a pair of cargo pants, which you can wear yourself or give to a member of your party who is clothed inappropriately for the weather at hand, as is very common among females in our society. And/or the same 24 hour kit in a nylon rain jacket or in a fishing vest or countless other ways, allowing you to prep as much as you want and use as you see needed. Again, I think you are on the right track and I also agree thinking about prepping for these situations is fun, so I hope you enjoy my thoughts above even if you do not use them yourself.
Thank you very much for the in-depth response. I respect that, and it shows you think things out.
First, i want to mention something important. I fully understand why people pack Preps for multiple possibilities. I wanted to make this video to highlight my situation. It's not normal being a state away compared to 20 miles. I should have put more emphasis on that. If you are subscribed, you know I don't plan my videos much. No story boards, no script, I just sit and let it out and normally quite tired too, haha.
What you explained as your setup seems reasonable and thought out. I took a little stab at other preppers- videos because most preppers here on youtube have ridiculous amount of supplies in their bags. Comical, actually.
Another thing I want to rehash is most of my prepping videos are to spark self thinking. Not to just do what people say is right. To look at a situation from a 30,000-foot view so-to-speak. My rare situation, that some others may share, is quite different. If you have a 30 day hike home, a gallon of water will not do me much good as a filter is much better. 72 hours of food will not really help. I have a much, much bigger problem that needs focus. For me those types of items may only cushion the issue by 5% - 7%. So I need to focus on the more impact of the 97% of the situation. This will most likely involve non-conventional means to achieve my goal. Those do not fit in a bag. Most people think conventionally. Fine in most cases. Not mine.
So it's not so much about being minimalistic. It's more about what will really need to happen to get home. Again for me.
All of us as preppers, have a common mindset. All of us are also individuals. To many people's disagreement, there is not one do all answer to any of it. Not one bug-out bag, food pantry, or bomb shelter fits everyone.
Our individualistic critical thinking is our most important prep.
Again, thanks for the comment.
Peace, to you and your loved ones!
I wanted to add an interesting side note. I have actually made a change in my career to make that distance half. A pay cut but worth it.
You dont need a lot of food. People overthink the food. Ive tested it, when i walked 31miles in 9hours... It was water i needed and some elektrolytes... No big meals or anything like that... Dont overdo it... First aid for your feet! Trauma kit but if you need that, your already fucked... Your ghb should be a edc bag type style thing... Poncho, warm clothes like a beenie or woolshirt can help a lot... Multitool, sak and a lamp, water a lot of water... I also carry other stuff... But only in a bag of 15L. Bin working on it for 7 years.... Started with 30L... After so many years of testing.... I have now the perfect bag for me. think realistic.
@Raventommm well said and good advice. Also, I work nights outside, so wamth is covered pretty well.
65+ miles from home. I live in the desert, southwest. I calculate approx 24 hours plus rest time so 36 to 48 hours.
Minimalism would be a requirement. Water will constitute more than half the weight i will carry.
Yes, I've done my share of hiking in AZ. Never that far but 8 months out of the year, water is important. I've done 7 miles without water but in shaded trees.
Camelback style packs are the way I went.lots of places to put stuff too.
About 10 miles from home on a normal day. Water, snack, weather appropriate clothing, torch, high viz item so I don’t get killed on narrow lanes. I’ll have my usual EDC, phone, small power bank, cable. Basic first aid, wallet. Etc. travel light and fast. UK, bugging out is not an option, if I had to leave my home permanently, I’d plan on going by car, take my camping gear, at least as far as I could.
Hopefully bugging out, never has to be an option. That seems like a good light setup you have.
I work 17 miles from home. Once a month, I will hike 15 miles to practice. Trust me, minimum weight carried is better! To go that far I need 3 liters of water, 4 ibuprofen, fresh socks, and some caffeine! I have seen videos of 50+ pound packs, I know those people won't be able to go many miles.
No need to steal a car after an emp, they won't work, lol 😆
I think some will if not all. One reasoni dont pack a large bag im not that worried about an EMP. I am releasing a video soon on debunking EMP.
I know most people in the field are worried, but I only have the concrete information that's been out.
Who knows I may be off. Let me know.
A couple of days back my wife got in the car with 100miles in the tank. She got stuck in traffic and was basically standing on the highway and it took her 3 hours to go home from work. At 6pm, in the dark, in hard rain at about 35 degrees. The car was basically running on a scent when she made it to the closest gas station 7miles down the road.
She was wearing a down jacket and sneakers but it was hard rain. 15 Minutes walking and the down jacket would just be a wet pillow (no matter the water repellent outside).
If she had to walk back home for 7 more miles, starting at 6pm, in the dark with rain pouring down things might have gotten more serious.
Therefore I disagree that a dire situation is relatively unlikely.
Zombie Apocalypse, EMP, Nuclear bombs => unlikely.
Running out of gas in the middle of a traffic jam => happens all the time.
I do agree to a degree though. 35 pounds on your back is 100% nonsense considering that you will very unlikely spend more than 1 night outside. But a smaller bag of 15 pounds might save your behind sooner than you want it to.
Thanks for sharing that. I'm glad she got home safe. It does happen and even overheating in the summer. I do try to keep my tank above half and always a bottle of water for those situations. More so in the winter, but I should be better at all times. Thanks for that.
I think you are asking a lot of a mylar emergency blanket to last three weeks getting home.
I'm all for minimal gear, but my idea of minimal warmth and shelter is a poncho and Swagman Roll. I really don't want to go any more minimal than that.
I agree. I would still think I need to do my best to get home in a couple days.
Just sub’d. small prepper channel here, just ran across your video. Traveling light is definitely a good idea. Location has everything to do with choosing the right items though. Blessings..
Light and using resources along the way is a good long-term get home plan.
Since this video, I have changed routes. I'll be updating, but still the same mindset
I would say you don't need the hand gun; a bat or walking stick will do for self defense, don't you think.
Well most likely. A hand gun is small and compact yet effective. IF I end up having to walk, it's bad and a possibility of my life being in danger goes up. Yet still very low.
To further your point something like a bat can be used as a deturent and a tool. The only drawback is the size and weight. For options, there should be many similar tools to be picked up on the way home.
I believe a handgun maxes out capabilities in a small package, though.
This isn’t meant to sound insulting, but most of your views here are naive at best, and very dangerous in the least.
I understand a lot of my content is against the popular thought process. No insult taken. I realize, in a worst case senerio, all of us will have to make decisions we are not comfortable with. Do things we would never have thought. If we get EMP'ed, not only will positivity drop, but all rules will be out the window.
I'm a kinda quiet person with Christian values. I wish no harm to anyone. In this very low probability, it's survive or don't survive. I'll keep my options open to be on the better half of that.
I like the bare minimum approach, also I'm missing some essentials: first aid/trauma kit (you've got something to make holes in bodies so you should have something to fix those), taking care of blisters or better: prevent them (moleskin), water purification tablets as Sawyer filters only bacteria and not viruses, flashlight or better headlamp with low/medium/high mode and spare battery (depending on runtime vs. time it takes you to get home), Hot Hands/Feet (transportable warmth), FFP3 mask with a valve (3 minutes without air...), rain protection (umbrella, poncho, DWR coat), insulated seating pad that protects your b*tt from cold & wet, knife and/or multi-tool (e.g. cut through fence wire), worker gloves (you may need to move stuff, handle glass, etc.), a bag/rucksack/collapsible tote to carry stuff (you've purchased), paper map of the area you have to cross to get home - ideally something that shows walking/bicycle ways and small roads plus should have topographical information, a compass.
I do have all of those things and may be taking a certain level of chance by not having them. As of now, I don't run a BOB. If I decide to make a couple for us, it will include all the good, important supplies.
I like your calm positive demeanor
I am building a get home bag for my son. He works 77 miles or 135 miles, depending on what sight he's on that day. To me, that equates 4 or 10 plus days walking. Light weight ,minimalist yet useful bag is my goal.
Light and small has its benifits. It's good to do.
Your argument is valid for a strong healthy robust individual. The rest of us need more in the way of supplies, and backup accoutrements.
I would just be weary of unnecessary things. I agree that everyone will have different needs. Even locking a bike to a vehicle might be a stretch, but also a deal breaker if walking long distances would be an issue. I mostly wanted to address the over complicated bags I see on this platform.
I formerly was a robust person, and was not afraid to walk all day, I could walk barefoot most of the year. Now due to working, and getting older, I can barely walk to the mail box. So, there are different needs for different people. The things I've had to give up doing because My body is giving out, is numerous. In my younger days, I would take you at any challenge, but now, am at enormous disadvantage. If compiling a list or a bag, I need more now than you do, and the more the merrier. As I am basically immobile. When deciding what is good for one, you might want to think, what is good for all. Good for you, you are strong. You can brag about it, until, you are no longer strong. The day will come.@@bluefoothomestead9358
The minimalist idea has merit but each person needs to figure out if they need extra items. Thx for input
Very true
IMO, the reason we prep is for the unknown. Sure, we can assume we will only need a GHB for the 10mile trek from the office but what about the time you’re on a family trip and in the middle of nowhere. What about if you are caught between a natural disaster, wouldn’t you want a bag with items such as gas mask if you have to drive through a wildfire? My point is, it’s better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. You can always barter or dump the items you don’t need.
Thanks for the commebt.
Single items I understand, so many people overkill backups. 10 ways to start a fire in Miami doesn't make sense.
A family camping trip in a fire prone area, during the fire season, absolutely masks are a good idea. I just don't put it in the group of a staple item. More of a specific one.
I am rethinking my plan, though. I'm going to different places now and I am going to build one accordingly. More items, btw. It should be a good video with important things no one talks about regarding the GHB plan.
@@bluefoothomestead9358 looking forward to it. Be safe out there
Real video/ info. Thanks for your service. God bless
Thanks you too.
Those keys crack me up, break the window out use a screwdriver and make it start piece of cake
Lol, that's an option, too. It's good to have options. Older cars, Keys can be pretty quick. Can't argue old school, though.
On the road minimum 16 days a month. Average of 200-250 miles from home in a company vehicle. I have pondered this dilemna alot and still don't have a great solution.
I do recommend jiggeler keys. About $20. If you need them, you will be glad you have them. If you don't, it's cheap insurance.
Hey Blue Foot Homestead! Just FYI! For Transportation as you might have a need for it? Instead of a bunch of jiggly lock picks in your pocket? Have you ever heard of a "Flathead Screw Driver"?
Do you ever travel with another person or persons in your vehicle? Can they make it those 30 miles like you can?
I totally get your minimalist approach which I believe is more focused on the urban to suburban get home situation.
In this case the one thing I recommend you carry is whatever meds you need to take on a daily basis.
If you have high blood pressure, diabetes, asthma, serious allergies, or any chronic illness or condition, carry at least 2 days worth of meds.
This is way more important than any other prepping gear.
What use is a knife, gun, blanket, cordage, freeze-dried food etc when you're near passing out from low blood suger or high blood pressure, half suffocating from asthma/allergies or doubled over in pain from your herniated disk or that highschool football knee injury?
And taking the "Chems" approach to prepping further, keeping some on you can not only be a great morale booster but can also be a source of barter or ice breaker.
Where I'm from, a lot of people still smoke heavily so I keep a pack or 2 of cigarettes in my car. You won't believe how quickly a stranger will lower his guard and reply kindly to your questions if you offer them a smoke first. Now imagine a heavy smoker who'd been denied tobacco for days. He'd be willing to hand over a dozen bullets or other supplies just for a fresh pack of cigs.
And cigarettes can keep a flame going as long as you puff, good for lighting fires.
The same with alcohol and sugar. When times are the darkest, you can always count on a hip flask of whiskey and a handful of hard candies.
They will give you the mental and physical boost to get you thru that long day and possibly night of trudging home.
You have some good points
Alot of people smoke in Missouri. Most I know buy pack by pack. They will run out quick and is a great barter tool and/or things you mentioned.
My ghb includes the junk I carry around for fun, and just the things I might need for an unplanned overnight somewhere, whether it’s cause I have to walk 20-30miles home, or I have to stay in town for the night for some reason. No fishing gear, no hatchets, no giant knives or anything goofy. But i like to know i have some basic necessities even if i cant go home every night.
For sure. I do have things I use for work with me at most times. Pocket knife, flashlight, and maybe a snack. EDC if you will. I do know, for me, the first 48 hours I will not be sleeping. I will be far from relaxed in my trip to get home. 1 goal.