Cannondale Scalpel vs. Specialized Epic 8

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  • @federicosanguin9532
    @federicosanguin9532 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Molto belli questi video comparativi! Ne hanno già parlato tutti con video specifici sulle singole bici ma un video così con Specialized world cup e Trek Supercaliber sarebbe interessante!

  • @giuseppezupo
    @giuseppezupo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Concordo con quanto dici sulla Epic 8 ovvero che in Specialized hanno preso il meglio della Epic Evo (che ho io) hanno tolto il brain dando la possibilità al biker di scegliere quando aprire e chiudere le sospensioni (modifica che ho apportato alla mia Epic Evo!) ed immagino che questa, a dispetto della mia Epic Evo 2021, in più abbia una posizione in sella più aggressiva, che non mi dispiacerebbe avere... Ovviamente sceglierei la Specialized Epic 8... Ma non è più tempo in cui io cambiavo bici, ora è tempo che questa Epic Evo mi duri e, per fortuna, non sento ancora il (forte) bisogno di cedere alle lusinghe del marketing... 😅 Quindi va bene così. Marco ottima comparativa, complimenti 😃👍🏻

  • @gianlucafilippini9251
    @gianlucafilippini9251 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    La Orbea Oiz M Team costa più di 2.000€ in meno e pesa 10.5kg. Non serve aggiungere altro. Comunque bellissima comparativa, complimenti!

    • @petti_80
      @petti_80 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Ma ti dirò che secondo me già con la M-Pro tutta XT che costa oltre 3000 in meno è meglio di entrambe…

    • @gianlucafilippini9251
      @gianlucafilippini9251 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@petti_80 concordo, era solo per fare un confronto a parità di allestimento. La M-Pro é già ottima

  • @giorgiomazzola4619
    @giorgiomazzola4619 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Da possessore di una fantastica Scalpel hi-mod 1(quella nera e verde) tutta xtr(gruppo meccanico), sono perplesso....freni Sram che non soni paragonabili agli xtr, peso aumentato 11,6 senza pedali!!!quindi si sfiorano i 12kg!!!! E prezzo lievitato di parecchio.

  • @fili86raceface
    @fili86raceface 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Scalpel con calzini o senza?

  • @michelewissiak6538
    @michelewissiak6538 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mi piace la specialized, dimmi dove hai registrato, non trovo la traccia

  • @SergioAlmesberger
    @SergioAlmesberger 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Questo video conferma la mia scelta per la Epic 8 Pro. Oramai sono 20 venti che guido Specialized in tutte le maratone e non mi ha mai deluso. Grazie per il Test e complimenti.

  • @foxyobrown
    @foxyobrown 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is the shown weight tubeless or wirh tubes? Sorry, I dont speak italian

    • @mtbmagazine
      @mtbmagazine  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Tubeless, both. Without pedals

    • @foxyobrown
      @foxyobrown 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mtbmagazine thank ou. And the weight of the epic is with bottlecage and tool?

    • @mtbmagazine
      @mtbmagazine  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@foxyobrown yes

  • @moriciski
    @moriciski 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bellissime bici e godibilissimo confronto, personalmente ho scelto la SPARK ma ammetto solo per gusto estetico, tanto la differenza viene soltanto dalla testa e dalle gambe 😁👍💪✌️👏

  • @rodolfomarcon6835
    @rodolfomarcon6835 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ottimo video, bravo Marco Sono stato possessore di varie versioni di Scalpel.. addirittura su una la Lefty pssedeva il blocco elettronico!!( Pila da 9v sulla testa dello stelo e led verde/rosso)..un riferimento x come lavorava,ma ora del DNA del marchio è rimasto poco Perché non fai comparativa anche con la Orbea Oiz? Attualmente la ritengo la più valida

  • @massimilianoberti6181
    @massimilianoberti6181 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bellissime 🤑… il cuore va verso L Epic 8…

  • @funLad80
    @funLad80 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Your experience regarding riding position on both Cannon and Spec is cause of the size differences, you have tested Medium Scalpel vs Large Spec. So, reach is 450 vs 475, stack is 595 vs 610, top tube length is 597 vs 633. Also, stem in Spec has positive angle +6°, and Cannon has angle of -6°. You should compare both bikes in same size... According to Spec you should be on L but probably could do with M depends on your measurements, it is the one you've tested. And Cannon recommends size L for riders higher than 175 cm, not M. Especially top tube length makes a huge difference which impacts your riding position while in saddle - difference is 36 mm, it's a lot. That's why you did not feel well on Cannon. I am a Spec rider and came here to see Spec 8, but I think riding position and your experience on Cannon was influenced too much by too small frame size. What do you think?

    • @mtbmagazine
      @mtbmagazine  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I had 3 spacers under the bar on the Scalpel. Beside that, I've been talking to fellow journalists and athletes (Manuel Fumic) during our ride in Portugal and we all agreed on the low stack of the Scalpel. Which is actually very cool.
      For a guy of my size (179cm and 74 cm saddle-BB) there is no way of riding the Scalpel in L due to the dropper length. I've tried it but it didn't work for half a centimeter or something like that.

    • @funLad80
      @funLad80 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mtbmagazine hmmm... both Scalpel and Epic 8 got identical reach, stack and nearly identical top tube length (Epic 8 is 10 mm longer). Check specs for both bikes. Also I can see that you got spacers under stem in Specialized as well. So obviously your actual stack height will be lower in Cannon. Reach/stack/tt length corresponds with each other, as you know. If you have put extra 3 spacers under the stem in Cannon, then you reduced actual reach by few mm also... Ii's like comparing two Scalpels M vs L or Epic M vs L. It is natural that both will feel completely different. smaller will be lower, more responsive and nimble, more upright position.
      Anyway, I am looking to buy Epic 8 but this Cannondale is so nice. I like Lefty too, but not a fan of servicing it - more difficult, more often and more difficult from I have heard.

    • @mtbmagazine
      @mtbmagazine  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@funLad80 that's exactly what I did not say: no more upright position even if the sizing is a Medium. Anyway, you can see from ther first frames how low the steering tube of the Scalpel is, compared to the Epic. And yes, if the Scalpel was my personal bike I would buy a L and put a 125mm dropper instead of the 150mm one.

  • @pablito72
    @pablito72 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Entrambe bellissime e fuori budget per me 😅, ma se potessi scegliere andrei sicuramente sulla Epic

  • @murilomarques3879
    @murilomarques3879 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cannondale Scalpel ❤ cinematica melhor, além de ser uma bike diferente de estética. Lefty é um grande diferencial. Medidor de potência faz sentido apenas para quem segue planilha de treinamento..na minha opinião.
    Parabéns pelo trabalho!

  • @danielespinelli7126
    @danielespinelli7126 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ciao Marco, tra la Epic evo e Epic Xc c’è molta differenza in pedalata e discesa?

    • @mtbmagazine
      @mtbmagazine  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      c'è 1 kg di differenza, freni, gomme e forcella migliori per la discesa sulla Evo. Insomma, la Evo scende meglio, la Epic sale meglio.

  • @quadfpv01
    @quadfpv01 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Che motore e batteria monta, perché con quel prezzo deve per forza avere un motore e una batteria per giustificare il prezzo😂😂😂

  • @marcoamisano8949
    @marcoamisano8949 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ma perché pesano così tanto? Io ho una spark 920 del 2018 cambiato cerchi e manubrio la bici con pedali pesa 12.3 ma mi è costata 4100 scontata ha ancora geometrie moderne e escursione da 120

  • @MarcoBartalini
    @MarcoBartalini 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Marco se ho capito bene la specialized così impostata taglia L secondo il tuo cavallo ha una altezza superiore sella - movimento centrale di 74? prezzi allucinanti cmq...

    • @mtbmagazine
      @mtbmagazine  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no, sulla Scalpel non riesco ad inserire il reggi abbastanza per avere il mio cavallo di 74cm

    • @MarcoBartalini
      @MarcoBartalini 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mtbmagazine scusami marco, non la scalpel. intendevo: La specialized così impostata è taglia L con altezza sella a 74?

    • @mtbmagazine
      @mtbmagazine  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MarcoBartalini sì e non c'è problema

    • @MarcoBartalini
      @MarcoBartalini 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mtbmagazine ottimo quindi per uno della tua altezza e cavallo va bene taglia L specialized. Con che lunghezza di attacco la utilizzi?

    • @mtbmagazine
      @mtbmagazine  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MarcoBartalini quella standard, guarda le specifiche

  • @giovannisilipigni4538
    @giovannisilipigni4538 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Comparativa....😍😍😍😍

  • @bvkdf
    @bvkdf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dico Scalpel .... In Specialized per ANNI hanno spinto sul sistema Brain che spesso ha dato problemi (mai veramente risolti ) e ora addirittura lo hanno tolto dalla gamma ... Non era uno dei loro cavalli di battaglia? ... Mah

  • @emanuelecamozzi2336
    @emanuelecamozzi2336 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ma sei a tesserete sopra Lugano? Giro bellissimo per testare XC

  • @bvkdf
    @bvkdf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sono alto come te ma ho altezza sella 76/76,5cm. Che tg consigli per la Scalpel M o L ?

    • @mtbmagazine
      @mtbmagazine  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      L, dovresti starci

    • @bvkdf
      @bvkdf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mtbmagazine Con la M rischierei un fuorisella troppo marcato in effetti

  • @giorgiopunkhxcx
    @giorgiopunkhxcx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mado ma perché mettere quei freni su bici del genere? Non era meglio se mettevano degli XT?

    • @mtbmagazine
      @mtbmagazine  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      non c'è un'ombra di Shimano su queste bici, probabilmente il pacchetto prevedeva anche i freni sram

  • @paolospreafico
    @paolospreafico 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Porca vacca che mezzi.,.. c'è l'imbarazzo della scelta...se era per me andavo sulla cannodale...un saluto biker 🎉🎉

  • @deniscotroneo4124
    @deniscotroneo4124 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Secondo te tra Sid e Fox 34 quale lavora meglio?

    • @paolospreafico
      @paolospreafico 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fox34 secondo me come forcella è la migliore

  • @danielealvisi8580
    @danielealvisi8580 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Il confronto non é facile, esteticamente la forcella Lefty non mi piace, ma mi piacerebbe provarla per sentire come funziona
    Cerro che il power meter è un plus non da poco sulla Epic
    sceglierei la Specy

  • @elenasala7188
    @elenasala7188 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Impossibile provare allestimenti piu' abbordabili e alla portata dei comuni mortali?????

    • @mtbmagazine
      @mtbmagazine  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      impossibile, guarda le gamme delle due bici

  • @danyuli
    @danyuli 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sarebbe interessante mettere a confronto anche la Oiz!

  • @davidesturini9941
    @davidesturini9941 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    La Lefty è la migliore fino a quando non provi una Bright....Marco supera lo scetticismo e fattela mandare da Pablo 😅

    • @RRFineArt
      @RRFineArt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Provate entrambi, Lefty tutta la vita

  • @Dandy1939
    @Dandy1939 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mi sarebbe piaciuto il confronto pure con la nuova LeeCouganTrail ...

    • @fili86raceface
      @fili86raceface 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      non lo puoi fare spesso quella bici non si trova
      (dove sta la bici? Lee)

    • @Dandy1939
      @Dandy1939 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Non si trova? Ma in quele film?​@@fili86raceface

    • @fili86raceface
      @fili86raceface 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Dandy1939 era una battuta

    • @Dandy1939
      @Dandy1939 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fili86raceface ???

  • @Karma-r8b
    @Karma-r8b 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Secondo me tutti quei soldi non hanno senso x la maggioranza dei comuni mortali

  • @fabrizioveneziano9003
    @fabrizioveneziano9003 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A 9k però prendo anche una moto vicino 😊

  • @enzoriva16
    @enzoriva16 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Scalpel senza dubbio fosse solo per la forca

  • @drl232
    @drl232 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Solo Cannondale ❤ perché non mi piace molto Specialized

  • @CarolinaPolato
    @CarolinaPolato 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    escalpelo senza nessun dubbio

  • @SergioAlmesberger
    @SergioAlmesberger 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Frage

  • @ale7183
    @ale7183 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Provenendo da una cannondale fsi… dico scalpel !!

  • @LalloC13
    @LalloC13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Epic 8 a occhi chiusi