We're coming up on one month since the story came out. Does Mr. Smith want to come back to Congress and give an update now that he's had a month to think about it?
the few people in the industry who try to take security seriously delegate all of the responsibility: to a security team, a security appliance, a security quiz. nobody here improves security posture, by, for example, taking a production system offline to address viruses.
Didn't MS also not do anything about the hacking tool Back Orifice that the group Cult of the Dead Cow made back in the 90s, that was a hacking tool used on Windows 98, and 95, since those OS ran with administrative privileges, and all MS did was when they released XP it was based on their NT OS, which did have admin privileges locked. This isn't the first, nor the last.
For M$, and pretty much all other companies in the tech world harvesting personal data on their users/customers is job one. Storing all that personal private data is a big task, but M$ didn't think properly securing that data was economically required -- and they're right. If you can make bank on al the data you harvest from your users and the government will do little or nothing when they fail to protect their users so there's little harm to come to M$ et al even when enormous numbers of people are harmed by the data breaches. IOW, if M$ can make billions hoovering up private data and it only costs them a few million to respond to the breach there is ZERO incentive for them to do more to protect our data.
Part of the problem is a lot of the software engineers that aren't cybersecurity savvy don't respect the concerns that a cybersecurity team would have and the cybersecurity team doesn't know how to communicate with them. "This is needlessly complicated... You don't know what you're doing... What you want is impossible... I think you are getting carried away with your paranoia..."
katherene: right. Microsoft created the viruses and problems with Windows, then they then charged people $250.00 per hour to fix. With MS, IT NEVER ENDS.
This is the big problem with corporations: they can't be sent to jail (or be given capital punishment), so they ultimately get away with egregious behavior with a mere slap on the wrist. It's just infuriating! Then, to add insult to injury, their supporters, including, and especially the members of their boards and the GOP go on to assert that corporations have or should have the same rights as individuals. This nonsense MUST stop immediately!
@@the_expidition427 I agree with you. This problem affects everyone but the wealthy, regardless of what their political leanings are. In the process, the wealthy and large corporations just keep cashing in. It's a vicious cycle
@@CatherineSTodd lol your ignorance is astounding. Every time it's happened in the United States it's been a good thing. Got us out of the great depression too. Most privates sell you the free tech and services the govt offers already including the weather service. Why do you think corpos fight so hard to lobby against any punishment? We still use infrastructure from the 1960s. Are you crazy? Did you forget the housing and automobile crashes less than two decades ago? They were not nationalized. You couldn't even spell normal even with an edit. Your education has utterly failed you.
@@CatherineSTodd Your education has utterly failed you. And you couldn't even spell "normal" even with your edit. your ignorance is astounding. Every time it's happened in the United States it's been a good thing. Got us out of the great depression too or did you forget how FDR's programs worked? Ask yourself why the programs that saved us have been repealed bit by bit each decade since his administration. Most private companies today sell you the free tech and services the govt already offers, including the weather service. They are mere middlemen. Did you forget the housing and automobile crashes in the past two decades? Or both recessions? Sure, our status quo is good is that what you're saying? Do you not know that WE torpedo'd those nations were they nationalize businesses? Wouldn't want it catching on here. It's why we only do it in South America and not Europe where it's definitively successful. You clearly know nothing about history, about the world, about economics, and let someone else do your thinking for you. I wonder if you listen to fox news or something.
@@CatherineSTodd Your education has utterly failed you. And you couldn't even spell "normal" even with your edit. your ignorance is astounding. Every time it's happened in the United States it's been a good thing. Got us out of the great depression too or did you forget how FDR's programs worked? Ask yourself why the programs that saved us have been repealed bit by bit each decade since his administration. Most private companies today sell you the free tech and services the govt already offers, including the weather service. They are mere middlemen. Did you forget the housing and automobile crashes in the past two decades? Or both recessions? Our status quo is good is that what you're saying? Do you not know that WE torpedo'd those nations were they nationalize businesses? Wouldn't want it catching on here. It's why we only do it in South America and not Europe where it's definitively successful. You clearly know nothing about history, about the world, about economics, and let someone else do your thinking for you. I wonder if you listen to fox news or something.
We're coming up on one month since the story came out. Does Mr. Smith want to come back to Congress and give an update now that he's had a month to think about it?
the few people in the industry who try to take security seriously delegate all of the responsibility: to a security team, a security appliance, a security quiz. nobody here improves security posture, by, for example, taking a production system offline to address viruses.
Didn't MS also not do anything about the hacking tool Back Orifice that the group Cult of the Dead Cow made back in the 90s, that was a hacking tool used on Windows 98, and 95, since those OS ran with administrative privileges, and all MS did was when they released XP it was based on their NT OS, which did have admin privileges locked. This isn't the first, nor the last.
Yes. Hacking with back orifice gave you full access to endless windows desktops... There was literally zero security.
This is how companies quietly sell your private data.
Evidence? Nahh, 'Nuther cheap, cynical halfwit.
For M$, and pretty much all other companies in the tech world harvesting personal data on their users/customers is job one. Storing all that personal private data is a big task, but M$ didn't think properly securing that data was economically required -- and they're right. If you can make bank on al the data you harvest from your users and the government will do little or nothing when they fail to protect their users so there's little harm to come to M$ et al even when enormous numbers of people are harmed by the data breaches. IOW, if M$ can make billions hoovering up private data and it only costs them a few million to respond to the breach there is ZERO incentive for them to do more to protect our data.
All your data has been freely available since long before this hack was discovered. That cow has been out of the barn a long, long time.
MS sucks.
Part of the problem is a lot of the software engineers that aren't cybersecurity savvy don't respect the concerns that a cybersecurity team would have and the cybersecurity team doesn't know how to communicate with them. "This is needlessly complicated... You don't know what you're doing... What you want is impossible... I think you are getting carried away with your paranoia..."
what interest does Ms have in keeping anyone safe?
katherene: right. Microsoft created the viruses and problems with Windows, then they then charged people $250.00 per hour to fix. With MS, IT NEVER ENDS.
This is the big problem with corporations: they can't be sent to jail (or be given capital punishment), so they ultimately get away with egregious behavior with a mere slap on the wrist. It's just infuriating! Then, to add insult to injury, their supporters, including, and especially the members of their boards and the GOP go on to assert that corporations have or should have the same rights as individuals. This nonsense MUST stop immediately!
It's a non partisian problem that indiscriminate for the uniparty
@@the_expidition427 I agree with you. This problem affects everyone but the wealthy, regardless of what their political leanings are. In the process, the wealthy and large corporations just keep cashing in. It's a vicious cycle
Rust language mention. Not in the video, just in this comment.
Nationalize them.
nornal, if you've ever lived in a country where businesses have been "nationalized," you would know not to want that.
@@CatherineSTodd lol your ignorance is astounding. Every time it's happened in the United States it's been a good thing. Got us out of the great depression too. Most privates sell you the free tech and services the govt offers already including the weather service. Why do you think corpos fight so hard to lobby against any punishment? We still use infrastructure from the 1960s. Are you crazy? Did you forget the housing and automobile crashes less than two decades ago? They were not nationalized. You couldn't even spell normal even with an edit. Your education has utterly failed you.
@@CatherineSTodd we are like 12th in internet quality. Korea beats us, know why? Nationalized service.
@@CatherineSTodd Your education has utterly failed you. And you couldn't even spell "normal" even with your edit. your ignorance is astounding.
Every time it's happened in the United States it's been a good thing. Got us out of the great depression too or did you forget how FDR's programs worked? Ask yourself why the programs that saved us have been repealed bit by bit each decade since his administration. Most private companies today sell you the free tech and services the govt already offers, including the weather service. They are mere middlemen.
Did you forget the housing and automobile crashes in the past two decades? Or both recessions? Sure, our status quo is good is that what you're saying? Do you not know that WE torpedo'd those nations were they nationalize businesses? Wouldn't want it catching on here. It's why we only do it in South America and not Europe where it's definitively successful. You clearly know nothing about history, about the world, about economics, and let someone else do your thinking for you. I wonder if you listen to fox news or something.
@@CatherineSTodd Your education has utterly failed you. And you couldn't even spell "normal" even with your edit. your ignorance is astounding.
Every time it's happened in the United States it's been a good thing. Got us out of the great depression too or did you forget how FDR's programs worked? Ask yourself why the programs that saved us have been repealed bit by bit each decade since his administration. Most private companies today sell you the free tech and services the govt already offers, including the weather service. They are mere middlemen.
Did you forget the housing and automobile crashes in the past two decades? Or both recessions? Our status quo is good is that what you're saying? Do you not know that WE torpedo'd those nations were they nationalize businesses? Wouldn't want it catching on here. It's why we only do it in South America and not Europe where it's definitively successful. You clearly know nothing about history, about the world, about economics, and let someone else do your thinking for you. I wonder if you listen to fox news or something.
Well, your SolarWinds attack problem it's not really our Microsoft problem, is it. It's your problem, not ours.
Would you trust anything from Microsoft these days..? Nope. Like trusting Musk with safe FSD.