How To Hand Drive A T-Post Into Hard Packed Stone ... Or Just Normal Soil
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ต.ค. 2021
- Are you having trouble hand-pounding T-posts into place? If so, this video shows you how I easily pound a T-post into any kind of ground... even into the hard-packed stone of my driveway!
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My hero! I never thought I'd get these posts in the ground before summer! I happened to have a tamping pole with a beveled edge and your method worked perfectly! THANK YOU SO MUCH!! ♥️♥️♥️
I’m delighted to know this video helped you. Thanks for the positive feedback! 👍🏻
Have a gallon jug of water handy to dribble into the hole as you jump it down. it also helps to use water when augering post holes. like a cutting fluid when drilling metal. Linemen also use the same idea when driving long grounding rods into the ground. a little water goes a long ways.
People who share their tips and tricks for getting things into hard ground, are all-right by my books. Many thanks.
Growing up in Maine, we used wooden posts but the method was the same. We would use the rod to make the hole then drive the fence post in with the back of a single bitted ax. All the posts were sharpened beforehand. That was when I was a kid and I'm 73 years old now.
I need to build a fence to protect my dogs up here in the very rocky Sangre de Cristo mountains, and I didn't have much hope until seeing this video. Thank you so much, Mr. Kimball.
WOW, A DIGGING BAR. I HAVE WANTED TO MAKE A FENCE AROUND A CHICKEN COOP (STILL 4 YRS LATER WITH NO CHICKENS, YET LOL) NOW WITH AGE, I'LL HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE ELSE DO IT, IF EVER IT GETS DONE, BUT THAT BAR THING IS A GREAT, GREAT IDEA. THANK YOU SO MUCH. :)
His wife is going to be surprised driving up that driveway and hitting a t-post! Thanks for the video, I'll check that digging bar out.
great video. My wife has watched it three times - she should be good now.
😂 You have a good wife. 😊
You just save a 70 year old man a lot of work, thanks👍🏻
Sometimes here in the Texas Hill Country we have to use a drill driver to get through the limestone to set a T post. We use a rockbar to dig post holes and the post hole diggers to clean the hole. Up by Llano they have granite and I have no idea how they dig holes for anything, You are digging in soil....I'm jealous.
Never pull the driver above the top of the T-Post. You can drive the Stake into your hand. Did that once tired and took 19 stiches to close it up.
Yeah very true…the driver or dolly used in this demonstration is too short in design
The digging bar I use was forged by my great great grandfather from a wagon axle. I also use a chisel from a coal mine about 3 ft long and a short handled sledge. I hit the top of the chisel a few times, smack the sides to get it to wiggle, repeat til I get the depth I need, pull the chisel out and drive my posts. We gots lots of sandstone here, if we're lucky there might be some dirt too so the extra effort with the chisel saves the effort of arm breaking post driving through 4-6 inch stone slabs.
I am 71 and have my grandfather's bar. He called it a Johnson Bar. I've used it in Illinois, Missouri and Texas and it never failed me, but in Tennessee it is a totally different story. Most of middle Tennessee near the Cumberland Plateau has bedrock near the surface and it has whooped me.
I have a "Johnson bar" but I'd never stick mine in to the ground, if you know what I'd mean ha.
@@markgonzales1970In your dreams! Look again. That might just be a 16d nail that fell into your shorts.
@@markgonzales1970if it is a big Johnson bar you might wanna spit it out…it doesn’t belong to you. 😂
Back in the mid-70's I lived in Nashville and worked for a company called Vibration Control Engineering. That layer of stone in the ground meant that most road or building construction required blasting. We provided services to the blasting contractors.
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New subscriber here and have to thank you for this video. I was out this morning trying to drive t-posts with a hammer while standing on a little kitchen step stool. I ended up somehow smashing my thumb between the t=post and the hammer when I hit the top. I was so mad and so fired up that I didn't flinch I just kept hammering but wasn't getting anywhere. I came in the house sayin to myself, there has to be an easier way to do this, since I don't have one of those driver things. I did however have what we called a rock mover that you were using to make the holes. I ran got ours and dragged (it is pretty heavy) it around to where I was working and gave it a go and omgosh!!! it was a miracle. You made my task go so much faster and easier and there was no more thumb smashing or jarring this 60-year-old woman's arms hitting that t-post. I am so grateful for your video! My fence around my coop is already up and I did it all by myself. Thank you!!!!
That's wonderful. Thank you. 👍🙂
Goodness, this is going to help me so much. I have a bad back, etc! & have to get a garden in.
Thank goodness for the online global community helping each other out!!! 🗽
In “another world” a long time ago, on our farm, I participated in yearly hay harvesting. It had to be hung up from ground on wooden stakes, some 8 or 9 ft long. The stakes were about a forearm thick, naturally thinning to the top and sharpened at the thicker end for 8 to 12 inches. We had to use those digging poles or rods, just like you showed, to make the holes for our stakes. The method was exactly as you show. On the fat section of our stake, there was a 6 to 7 inch cross member that would support the first bunch of hay some 18 inches above the ground and then the whole remaining length of the stake was loaded with additional hay, crisscrossing. With air gap under, the hay was let dry for about two weeks without catching mold. Finally the dry hay was collected and brought to one or more barns for winter feeding of our 6 dozen cows and a dozen horses. One thing, though - working at the “receiving end” when the fay was brought in, I developed a lasting opinion that I still relate Earl Gray tea taste or smell to the smell of our dry hay, which every year for a week or so every day penetrated my nose and throat. I like all OTHER tea flavors, but Earl Gray.
The method of drying hay that you describe is something I remember reading about in Farmstead magazine back in the 1970s. I was fascinated by it and saved the article. I never knew anyone who actually did it. Where in the world your farm was.
@@herrickkimball Finland. We sold it, when none of us 3 sons was adept and willing to continue farming, especially when the other two would have to be paid off. All 3 had already academic degrees and professions in other fields than farming.
Thanks for making a pot hole in your driveway to show us
This is the best way to get them into rocky ground without the post twisting out of line. Thanks.
I paid 20 bux for a similar bar at a used tool store years ago. Money well spent. When you need it, you need it.
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I bought one of those at Habitat Restore. I didn’t know what it was for but knew it had a purpose. Thank you for teaching how to use it!!! My land is rock hard and setting T Posts is a real bear. You have made my day!!! 👍🏻
Where I come from, we call that a pry bar. It's a very useful tool. Your application is new to me. Thanks for the tip.
A pry bar is a vastly different beast buddy! A pry bar is a short sturdy bar with a ‘J’ curve at one end with a ‘V’ cut-out for levering open doors, pulling large nails, fencing etc. Looks like where you come from have been using the wrong tool!
@@nivid01 I think you're talking about a crowbar 😂
Probably the most useful video on TH-cam. Hammering those suckers in the ground is a headache. You just made this single mom’s life’s a whole lot easier. Thanks for sharing!!!☺️💯
Thanks for sharing, here in SW Missouri our yard is much like your driveway with a dusting of dirt. A tankers bar is one of my favorite outdoor tools.
UPDATE- THANKS so much for this video. It is GENIUS to use the (6ft heavy) digging bar to make it easier to get t posts or u posts into the ground, in addition to finishing off with the manual post pounder / manual post driver. Also how you showed rocking the digging bar around a bit to nudge the rocks out of the way was also very helpful. Man I'd been putting this project off for many months but knowing to rent these two tools locally really made the project super simple. We even made one of our holes too deep it was so easy w/that digging bar! So then we just filled it back in a bit w/dirt. I rented a 6 ft digging bar & what they called a manual post pounder. We got 7ft u posts into the ground so easily w/those two tools.
Holy crap thank you! I've been scratching my head on how to firmly place my t posts. I'm trying this today
Thanks for the effort. Just what I needed to tackle my job. My dog will have more freedom because of you!! He thanks you!!
OMG finally someone that put up a video that showed me exactly what I needed to do. You’ve saved me thousands. Thank you!!
Great video. My grandfather used to dig all his fence post on the farm this way and showed me this at a young age. Now at 61 I'm revisiting this old trick to set posts into gravel/clay soil. Not a fun job but it's all I got
That method works best on rocky soil BUT I live on top of a mtn where I have only 6in soil base. I have slate not rocks. I've been told that I must use an auger for holes. I use my "special powder" it is powder that when water is used will create a dynamite effect without the loud booming noise. I LOVE the stuff!!!
Good demonstration. You can tell you've set more then a few posts in your time. Thanks so much, it's very helpful.
When you drive the post with the driver never let the post leave the pipe driver. As you were driving I saw the top of the post come out of the driver. When you come down to drive you may miss the post and destroy your hand on the post top as you are holding the driver handle I've seen it happen not trying to be a know it all but trying to avoid you an injury
His driver is VERY short compared to good ones - probably saved himself some $.
You can also hit the top of the T with the edge of the driver and drive all of that weight and force into the top of your head/face with the driver. I’ve had it happen to me, and it darn near knocked me out. I know another guy who did the same and had to get some 40 stitches in the top of his head. Your scalp is extremely vascular and difficult to stop any bleeding. If you’re way out in the middle of nowhere, that could spell disaster.
Oh please!
i have came down hard enough to crush my gold wedding band and cutoff circulation
Funny story, this happened to me. but I was very sick at the time and not paying attention. I overshot the rod and with all my force slammed down the pounder. I was setting ground rods at the time. The rod hit my safety glasses and then hit my eye. I’m lucky to have that eye now 🥴
Thank you for the information. Made it a LOT easier for me to get the fence posts in. Probably the same amount of labor, but a LOT quieter overall.
Elizabeth says, I've put so many heavy duty t-posts in our rocky ground, and never thought of using a digging rod. We have several rods of different length and weight. What a great idea, because I always just pounded them in using the post driver, from on top a ladder. Thanks for such a simple thing that makes it so much easier. Good to see you!
Working smarter not harder, thanks for the tip.
Excellent tip! I need to set some anchor posts for a shed I'm about to build.
I even have a similar bar already!
Thanks again! 👍😁
Thanks for the information, sometimes old tech is the best tech. My dad had one of those I remember farting around back in the 50’s. Never really understood how to use it correctly until now. Thank you again, have a great day.
Thank you! Your “part 2” in the Rocky driveway is just about what my front yard is in the Colorado mountains. 😂 This is exactly the solution I’ve been looking for.
ditto!
I've always heard it called a spud bar.
Just got interrupted driving T-Post for my chicken run by a heavy rain storm. Guess driving them will be easier when I'm able to get back to it.
Decided to search TH-cam to see if there's an easier way to hand drive them, and your video came up.
Looks like I'm doing everything you recommend.
I have clay and rock in the area I'm putting the fence up.
Many thanks for letting us know. Wonderful Herrick. Greetings from Cairns Australia
Excellent demonstration
that 17 lb bar appears to be what we termed in the US Army as a "tanker bar". It was used to pry and punch, etc., At those enormously heavy tracks when you did a track change on a tracked vehicle; tank, BFV, M113,...
I was having a hard time using a small sledgehammer to drive my tpost in, until I saw your video. Just so happens I already had a long bar similar to yours that I bought when I planted a tree. Worked great and saved me a lot of time and work! I needed to drive in the tpost in the middle of my sweet corn rows to mount a tpost sprinkler on the top. Great video....Thanks!
I love my digging bar too. It's several decades old too. Found it here on the property when I moved in. It's a lifesaver for digging my post holes for my fence. I also bought a small semi permanent vinyl fence for use over a short length, but it wobbles, so I'm thinking of stabilizing it with rebar stuck in the ground and zip tied to the fence posts. I can use this method for that too!
WWe do this all the time here in SW Texas, we call the steel bar a Texas Toothpick. We have so many rocks here that even an electric Jack Hammer won’t get through them.
omg.......you have just made me so much smarter............now where to get this digging tool?? I just have 4 T-Posts to dig............ wow, thanks so much for sharing your wisdom
Adding water to the work also adds in hard clay soils. I learned that trick when setting ground rods for an electrical contractor in the mid 90's. Keeping a constant water source on the hole works as the same concept of wet drilling in the oil industry. The water dries in a day or two.
I used to drive a star picked in to the bitumen on the road for a temporary fence using a slage hammer for gimpy.
Dude, thank you , you just saved Me 4 hrs of brutal labor. Thx
I got one of those. Use it for Everything. You can pry tracks back onto heavy machine with it.
I was actually looking for assistance in driving T posts in the ground straight as I have a terrible habit of leaning one way or the other without realizing until they're too far down in the ground. I think that your video will help me achieve that even though it wasn't the main focus. Now I just have to see if I can find one of those bars. Thanks for the good advice.
OMG I spent my youth with a "digging Iron" in my hand driving through bed rock in Colorado. Yes, it is the greatest way to get T-post in rock.
I'm 73 and have been using old 3/4" x 18" masonry bits ever since I got my first cordless hammer drill. But pounding a bar like yours is my last resort. Thanks.
Great video and an excellent demonstration. Thanks!
Thank you so much for sharing that useful method.
So glad I found this video - I have more confidence that I'll be able to get my [four lol] t-posts in my yard's hard clay soil! Thanks!
Great tip to set a T post when you are alone. Will use this today as I am enclosing a pen for my horses today!!! Thanks!!
Herrick’s next video is how to repair pot holes in driveway 😅
Learned something new today. Thank you
In industrial maintenance, we called it a pinch bar.....used to move seriously heavy machinery,...coax steel plates into place....and general leverage.....with a pinch bar, a BFH, and a pipe wrench, one can destroy/fix just about anything....great to have around the house too...
Thanks! Digging Bar now on my tool bucket list!
Well done, Sir! You really made a good point. Now I need to go find that tool.
Thanks! Great piece of information. I looking into how to drive t stakes into various soils. The dig bar is indeed a great tool! Found that out while installing close to 350 feet of spilt-rail fencing and had to work around the root systems of Monterey Pines.
This is exactly the information I needed. Thank you!!!
Excellent video. Good work!
Great demo
Nice demo. Thanks for this video.
Thank you for the demonstration
this tip helped me so much! i was able to get posts/ and a fence into a rocky/gravel area that i was going to give up on a few days ago. THANK YOU Herrick Kimball!!!
Very nice. Thanks for the great advice,
Outstanding video. This is just what I was looking for. Thank you!
OMG. Thank you. I only need to do a few, but I almost paid for the driver. I have a bar. Thank you, sir.
Being 81 years of age and for some reason unbeknownst to me those seemed to have been very prevalent and readily available when I was a youngster. And, again, for reasons unbeknownst to me they seemed to have always been in the way of whatever task you were attempting.
That tool is described as weighing 18 lbs. with a length of 60". Even though we called them 'railroad bars' (why, I have no idea) I believe the official name is 'Pinch Point Bar', and usually may be acquired online or from local dealers, such as Home Depot.
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Thank you so much! This is exactly the hack I needed!
Thanks. Valuable info for my area.
Excellent video.😊
Thank you very much for the information Herrick. Now I can make things happen.
Thanks for the tip!! Very helpful!
Great video.. just what I was looking for
Great idea! I used an angle grinder and cutting wheel to make a pointed end on my T-posts but this is helpful also.
Top notch. Difficult to find how to set T posts without the post hammer. I inherited a digging bar now 50 years old. Did not know that's what they are called. I've always used it as a lever.
Great demonstration I can tell you have set more then a few posts in your day, lol. Thanks very much for passing your experience along.
Thanks, great for my next project which I was worrying about.
100% right on for using T post, the drive and remover. They come in handy in many ways from staking to holding down a fabric covered green house/car port
Thanks for the tip!
I bought my digging bar in my 30's & still have it
and use it now & then.
A great idea. Thanks.
Thankyou!! I have rocks to dig through!!
Thanks for the help! 😊
Halfway through I was thinking "Well, that really isn't gonna help the guy who asked about rocky ground", then he starts driving fences into his driveway lol. Very nice.
You save me time and pain! Thank you!
This video is going to help me in a lot of ways. One because my property is pretty rocky, and I was fearing how challenging it would be to just sink a post. But also, I’m always trying to think of ways that I can do some thing by myself, and trying to sink 6 foot posts when I’m only 5 feet tall… I was wondering if I might have to use a ladder… But the idea of putting in a pilot hole first and dropping the post over a foot in the ground, that will make it possible for me to use a T post pounder hopefully standing at ground level. I appreciate you!!! I dont feel so intimidated now
Here in Arkansas, every Winter it seems to "Grow Rocks"! We have little (if any) Top Soil where I live, and it's difficult to even get the Johnson bar started into the ground. As a mater of fact, my neighbor rented a Ditch Witch, and had to return it the same day! It wouldn't even go through the first 6 inches of soil/rock...! Lol...
Good job!
Very helpful!
Super helpful !! Thanks
Oh my glad that works for you..!!
Great, I have the same spud bar as you are using and I live on river bottomland. I'll give that a try.
Brilliant!
Many many years ago when I worked for a power company, we called those rooster bars. I don't know why, but we had to use them now and then to get a hole for a power pole we had to hand dig. Not too often thank goodness.