I Left 5 Things In Rock Tumblers For 30 Days...
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TylerTube gotta leave them in longer than a week for a big change.
Just add polish to them lmfao
Pennies made before 1982 are all copper, after that copper plated zinc. You can even hear the difference if you bounce them off a hard surface, before 82 has a high pitched ring when it bounces and a duller sound after 82. Also you should be careful opening a container that any metal powder has been made in, if there wasn't much air getting in and the powder has a high surface area it could auto ignite on contact with air.
Can you do this again but put screws or nails in as an item?
You need to put saw dust in for the last week!
The abrasive exposes the zinc under the copper plated pennies. Zinc reacts with water forming hydrogen gas. Usually this process only goes until the zinc forms a passive oxide layer that stops the reaction. But in the tumbler you're constantly removing that protective layer thus the reaction continues until it ruptures.
thank you! how is this not the top comment?
This could be pretty dangerous too right? Isn't this highly explosive? If there was an ignitor nearby wouldn't it have been like a small bomb?
When you do these, you should take out one piece every week so you can show a side by side progression.
Big brain
I bet you felt real stupid when you watched the whole video
robloxgamernaenae I bet you’ll feel real stupid when you realize you misunderstood this comment and now just look like a jerk.
Yukon
I bet... umm you have a cat?
@@YukonTV shut up
When I was a kid (early 90's) I got a rock polisher just like the single barrel one you have. I remember spending hours and hours on our really long gravel driveway looking for the perfect rocks to add to the tumbler. I was SO excited when I thought I found a diamond and 2 gold nuggets which were just quartz and a form of pyrite lol. I polished those rocks until they looked like glass. Oh the memories. I still have those polished rocks 30 years later.
That glass is the same as can be found at the beach, washed smooth by water and gravel. Coloured glass looks incredible, treated this way. I'd like to see you tumble a couple of Hot Wheels cars, and some LEGO bricks, and maybe a 3.75" action figure - just to see what gets left, after 30 days.
I think most of us don't truly appreciate what this man does to entertain us. 28min video for us one month of waiting for him. We thank you good sir!
Agreed!
Not just waiting, dude battled exploding rock tumbler barrels full of mud and pennies and rebuilt a rock tumbler 8 times. He's a champ
We had to wait a month, it's a four week process lmao. I suppose he could have filmed something else but he was also probably editing in between shooting
Too bad he bores tf outta me. This video didn't need to be nearly 29 mins. 15-20 mins of this video is pure garbage.
yo Alex ok
When men aren't texting you back this is what they're doing
Yep
or cleaning or guns for the impending pandelerium. lol
Nah bro I’m just cheating
I was 300th like
I WAS AND NO ONE CAN TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME RAAAARAAAG
Or watching someone else do it
With the dice in the rock tumbler, it’s basically just the worlds biggest and longest game of Yatzy 😂
Yahtzee*
That’s exactly what I thought
And if he used a more course grit he would of made sea dice (and no I don't mean DnD water themed dice I mean dice that's actually tumbled by the ocean)
Did you run out of projects at the shop? If so can you convert my 69 chevy k20 to acummins24valveand auto transmission? Does the shop do charity work?
@@diamondg976 srry I pushed ur buttons buddy, have a good day. (Blows kiss)
Every time I’ve seen a rock tumbler in a museum gift shop I’ve always wondered why anybody would ever buy such a thing. And then I watched this and want a rock tumbler. I’m wondering how many rock tumblers this video has sold without the manufacturers ever knowing who to thank.
Me too
it makes me want to buy grit for my old tumblr (which i have been wanting to for years. its the only consistent thing on my christmas list, im pretty sure one year i only wrote down grit & one other thing)
Okay, I have some expertise in using grinding and polishing medium to make ball bearings and I can perhaps shine some light on what's happening here.
You started with silicon-carbide grit probably in the what 50 micron or higher range, this is to get the really rough rock features down. This grit is INCREDIBLY hard, second only to diamond, and it really only works on materials that are also very hard. So that's why the copper and the dice didn't seem to grind away. The dice, being a plastic, is simply way too soft and light to be cut by the grit. And the smaller grits only made this worse. You would've needed a much larger diamter tumbler, a harder plastic, and a coarser grit as well as perhaps some ball bearings in there to do much with those dice.
As for the copper, copper is very soft, and so is zinc. So the reason it didn't grind up the pennies is because the silicon-carbide grit actually embedded itself into the copper, effectively giving it a layer of armor plating that couldn't be easily worn away. Silicon-carbide grinds itself only very slowly. That's why you could still read the lettering and whatnot, and why you couldn't scrub off the black color, it's the grit. The smaller grit isn't going to change that later on either. That's why the marbles broke down in size so much but the pennies didn't shrink at all.
The reason the copper penny barrels kept blowing out is probably because the metal starting to really heat up from all the friction and create a bit of air-pressure that expanded the barrel till it popped.
The glass is hard enough to be cut by the grit, so it rounded up quite nicely. The marbles and rocks, same story. You need something hard for this process to work.
The reason they used aluminum-oxide as the polish material is because it will break down over time and turn into a finer and finer abrasive as you run it. Takes a lot longer for the silicon-carbide to break down in the same way.
You probably would need to run the polish a whole lot longer in order to get the glass and marbles and rocks to be completely smooth and polished. It is entirely possible to get them like that with polishing.
The way we get things from where you have them to totally polished is by tumbling them dry in a 12" tumbler with sawdust and jeweler's rouge inside, and only about half full. No water.
Michael Eliot this comment should be at the top. I worked in my stepdads machine shop for many years, and we had a large basin tumbler to polish the machined parts. Plastic pellets seemed to polish plastic parts right up, sometimes within hours. But ball bearings were absolutely necessary to polish the metal parts to a shine one would expect from a new product. Very good info here if anyone is interested.
A second reason why the dice are different, having a flat plane they will stack together presenting a single face, kind of like graphite in a sheet, it will allow for slippage plane to plane and not wear the stack like it would a single die. Cutting the "number to cut" back would help, but that plastic is made of some of the most impact resistant stuff we have. It doesn't wear for the same reason the drums are made of rubber.
Try hard
To add to the knowledge thread, the marbles gained flat edges after the first round of tumbling. This was likely caused by a large chunk being removed in the tumbling process. This removal was probably caused either by a larger marble impacting a smaller one, or an unseen fault in the marbles, or perhaps a combination of both. The flat edge was then rounded off near the edges by the further tumbling, but it wasn’t enough to completely remove the defect, as we saw.
@@omicronixzerus2929 Yes, it's called a 'conchoidal fracture' and it is the way that all grinding medium affect hard materials. Glass breaks off pieces the same way hard metal does but on a smaller scal. It creates a scale-like shape material removal. And you could see that in the broken piece he showed.
Her- “I bet he’s thinking about other women”
Him-“I wonder what I’m gonna put in my rock tumbler next”
No. It's other women.
@@carlfiguer1945 dude... What do you think "rock tumbling" IS? "Nut" and "busting" one wouldn't have ANY apparent reference to anything sexual if it weren't such a widely used phrase... "Chicken choking", "pressure washing", "rolling in the hay", "doing the laundry", "Netflix and chill", and "rock tumbling"... Times change, man... Young folk just don't talk like they used to lol
Mistress TLC lol, nice comment
@@mistresstlc8201t
Fun fact: the smoothness that the glass got is fairly common, if you go to some beeches you’ll find sea glass that’s usually bits of glass that have fallen into the ocean and have been smoothed down by the currents and silt.
Tyler, try to find river gravel. That's the stuff they add to concrete to give it strength. Basically what river gravel is...is remnants of the glaciers that covered the Northern part of earth for millions of years. I have seen some of that stuff go through tumbling and polishing, and they begin to look like gemstones. Way cool.
Lol bs
ummmm, no. That is the worst idea ever. Buy the stuff made for this.
"I don't know anything about rocks" -Man with 5 rock tumblers
Technically 3.... with 5 barrels. Lol
I thought the exact same thing
Boys will be boys.
My thoughts too
@@SpaceCadetLaC the biggest difference between men and boys is the price of their toys!!!
I could totally see a couple smashing a wine bottle on they’re wedding and having the glass worn down like this and made into jewelry.
Edit: if your about to comment something along the lines of “thats sea glass it’s actually already a thing” or “look up sea glass”, I know. The point is the sentimental value of the glass itself, what? Do you think your gonna toss the bottle into the ocean wait a little bit than you’ll have sea glass. The idea isn’t about making the glass itself or the process its about where the glass came from. I appreciate you trying to spread knowledge but half of the comments below are this.
It's called sea glass and we do make jewelry out of it in the Caribbean.
That's a damn good idea!
I'd expect decor over jewelry.
That’s a cute idea
Aw!! That is such a cute idea!
Know this was 3 years ago and this may get missed lol but it's alright! For any of those in rewatching or anyone in the future watching this, there's 2 pieces of what looks like a jade, a beautiful piece of tigers eye, lapis, dalmatian jasper, 3 pieces of rose quartz, and lapis lazuli. The small red pieeces that look like they have a geode "outside", the black one, and the little red ones I'm not sure of. Just a fun fact from your local gemstone enthusiast!! :3
Tiger eyes are worth some money, aren't they?
@scotts1356 it varies, I have some really pretty small pieces I got for 5 usd, bigger pieces or stylized cuts are more expensive. Found a near prefect specimen at my local crystal shop, was a 4 or 5 inch single point tower for 50 usd so it really depends. :3 hope this helps
I've been playing with rocks for some years now and I can assure you that you did not fail in your efforts to polish up those rocks. The failure was due entirely to the horrid instructions on those cheapie rock tumbling kits. They DO work, but there's a great deal more to know if you want the stones to come out nice and shiny. Be aware, done right, it's a much longer process than a month and requires that each individual stone is ready to move on to the next grit before doing so. I commonly polish with the rough grit on a continuous basis with one barrel, stopping once a week to examine and remove individual stones that are READY to move on to the next grit, leaving, typically the vast majority to turn for at least another week, or months if needed depending on how rough the stone is. Moving a rock out of the rough grit prior to be being smoothed down sufficiently (requires knowledge and experience, which you won't get from one batch of rocks) will prevent it from polishing up nicely....which is exactly what happened with your stones.
I would strongly recommend checking out any of the other rock tumbling videos for more in depth explanations and pointers. Grinding typically takes months, unless the rocks are super smooth to start with. Polishing typically takes only a couple days (2 days prepolish with cheap aluminum polishing compound and then 3-5 days with good quality tin or cerium on hard rocks or double that for soft rocks.) Final polish is one day in dishwashing liquid, or two if you want them to be like mirrors.
By the way, your flat edged marble was caused by a chunk of glass chipping off and then the chunk ground into nothingness.....mystery solved.
What you have created is Sea Glass. Glass will get into the ocean and through its journey, sand and water frost and smooth the glass. It's used in jewelry quite often.
He created FAUX sea glass... Tumbled glass.
that same process happens in lakes!
And just beautiful decorations I have collected it and made different things as well as beautiful jewellery for years. The combination of sand sea and the constant tumbling of the tide and waves makes beautiful shapes and consistency never the same they really are special I gave them the name sea gems when I first seen them when I was 6 the name stuck
I wonder if it would make a nice wind chime or mobile. Did you forget to show the dice at the end?
www.californiabeaches.com/beach/glass-beach/ my favorite place to go.
I as being a rock expert can confirm that those rocks are hard rocks.
Bennett Destefano ur a fuckin jokester i like it
BRO THAT"S GENIUS!!!
Please, use your commas.
@@DavyMcWavy I was going to say the same. You beat me to it. +1 point for you.
They're minerals, Marie.
As someone who used a media blaster on a daily basis as part of his job, I knew immediately the results you would have with the dice. Plastic will laugh at even a large industrial blaster. A rock tumbler is cake.
I've tumbled glass using eggshell, sand and sea salt. I got the same results as if I used the grits, and they make really pretty jewelry!
8:05 - I used to be a contractor at the United States Mint, in the manufacturing division at HQ in Washington, DC. I can tell you for a fact that the one cent (the actual name of the "penny") was changed in *1982* from a copper-zinc alloy (95% Cu, 5% Zn) to a zinc-copper core (99.2% Zn, 0.8% Cu) with an 8-micron-thick coating of pure copper. To put that in perspective, a human hair is about 75 microns thick. The change was to reduce the cost of the one cent, which was rapidly approaching its face value because copper was becoming expensive. Since 2006, the one cent has cost more to make than it is worth. In 2011, administrative costs were figured into the coin's cost, and because of that, you could make the one cent out of a free material and it would still cost more than one cent to make it.
If you want to know more, here is the Technical Report that I wrote for the Mint back in 2014: www.usmint.gov/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/2014-rd-biennial-report-appendix-4.pdf
How much u get paid
@@johnholman918 typical contractor wages for a Tech Writer III. I was released from the contract in mid-December of that year since the work for which I was contracted had been completed, and the document delivered.
Funny thing: the actual Biennial Report (for which the Technical report was an appendix) was barely 15 pages long, and the majority of it was lifted, nearly word-for-word, from the introduction to my Technical Report!
Even producing thousands at a time, it now costs more than a penny to make a penny. Gotta love inflation!
They really need to just get rid of the penny. I throw mine out before I put my change in a jar.
@@mikehunt8375 well thats kinda stupid. Coin segregation.
“I don’t know anything about rocks, they all look hard to me”- Tyler
my guess is gemstones,package will say what kinds of rocks is included. different gems have different hardnesses and should not be put together for an example 6 hardness with a 9 diamond is 10 whereas talk is 1
talc
@@jolenetener2719 If they were supplied by the tumbler company, assume the samples would be of comparable hardness for better results. But didn't the host admit he doesn't know geology (and didn't read the manual)? If there's a range of hardness, remove the softer ones earlier. The brown one looked like petrified wood.
Sounds like he's cramming for a geology exam.
Wanna know what else is hard
You can, as you've shown here, make your own sea glass with a rock tumbler, it seems! Broken glass in the sea gets tumbled around in the sand for years, and you get the lovely, frosty looking glass. I may get a rock tumbler and start making my own sea glass! Nice! Thank you.
Tumblers like that are basically how dice manufacturers take the sharp edges off dice after moulding them, so that'd be why they held up so well
Someone might have already said this, but people actually hunt the beaches for glass as after time the waves and sand have that same effect. "Sea Glass"
I call it beach glass
We called them Mermaid Tears
NYC/NJ shoreline
If found what I believed to be a beautiful blue transparent Rock or even gem at a playground with Sand, but it turned out to be a Part of a broken liquer bottle that due to the weather and Sand around it turned out like that. So then I started to put glass shards in bottles with Sand and Water to recreate that effect, but that wouldnt really work haha
Bernd 27 you need to add rocks too, the sea has rocks
“I think the rocks are getting smaller, but there’s no way for me to test that”
Scales: Am I a joke to you?
He could've measured them with rulers as well lol
How should he afterwards know how big, or heavy those rocks were at the beginning..?
"Scales: am i a joke to you?" This is the clue! I wish you luck :)
Yes, the rocks get smaller. Tumblers work by grinding away any imperfections in the rocks.
While it wouldnt be 100% precise, use the texturing of his gloves as a unit of measure. You could measure between 2 dimples, sampling and getting the average from multiple gloves, then review the footage when he places the items in his hand the dimples would then act as a scale ruler....
The marbles took me back to my elementary school days when marble collecting was a thing aka the 80s . I had some really nice medium and large ones which we called boulders
I was born in 99 but lived in Cali, we did the same I had bags full cuz we played for keeps.
I used to play marbles back in my younger days, we called the real big ones bunker balls, they were good to play with because they would win alot of balls but were not likely to be lost- still have them from 50+ years ago
The big ones are shooters
A female's perspective - I'm very impressed by the way the broken glass turned out. With the jagged edges gone and frosty looking, I can see several different uses for it...mainly decorative and crafting uses. I'll bet colored glass would look awesome!
beach glass!
@@1960markN Yup, this. All you have to do is walk along a stony Beach to find examples of this glass. I like it when you see old sections of brickwork all worn down, but the mortar is still holding the bits of brick together.
The glass reminds me of "ocean glass" I used to find on the beaches of Washington state. Believe it or not, there's actually a MARKET for this, from stained-glass windows to aquarium decorations,...pretty-much anywhere that uses glass. Now I know how to 'age' newer glass to give the effect of years of weathering on the beach,.......
Thx
That was my thoughts exactly.
I would imagine that the sand (grit) in the tumblers act the same way that the sand does in the ocean and at the beach. And the tumbler itself acts like the tide, causing the sand to "polish" the glass and maybe the water corrodes it or something?? I don't know the science, but it's gotta be the sand and tides making the glass look that way surely.
Same thing happens with rocks, I assume. Notice how rocks nearly always have a lot of curves to them?
You see it on beaches all of the time, it usually makes me think about how some asshole threw that bottle somewhere, and now it's here. But, they do look kind of pretty, especially when you find ones that are really transperent. Collecting them is doing the world a favour, and if people are buying, it's... Easy money! Haha
I believe that the polish happens from the salt in the ocean
Just gotta find different colored bottles!
XBakaTacoX it’s purely abrasion, just sand particles scraping the surface as they tumble in the ocean that causes the frosted look and for the glass to become smooth. Very cool, and as glass is practically inert, relatively harmless to the environment!
@@MrCulldog Thanks for your valuable information! It's interesting to find out about this topic.
The glass looks like sea glass. People where I live search the beaches for it.
Yeah it essentially is
Thanks now it doesn’t take me like 1 year to find sea glass just get a rock tumbler
@Party Van!i think that that is sand blasted glass
And it wouldn't go back to.clear, as the sand is actually causing scratches to the glass.
Yup! I figured someone would say this!
I know this was over a year ago but I just wanted to ask if you still had those dice laying around because you forgot to show the dice after the final polish. They probably didn’t change much but I was definitely excited to see them. Love the video!
"So all that broken glass that went everywhere, that'll be fun for somebody to pick up, cause its not gonna be me" mood
My parents used to do rock tumbling in the 70’s. I seem to remember that the pre polish and polish took way longer than the grinding, like 4x as much. And then there was another polish for about two weeks with polish compound and little round plastic beads and only half the original rock. This means the rocks aren’t bashing each other and losing the polish - long winded but I remember the results being really shiny.
Yeah, for that real nice shine you need to polish longer. For extra special ones you do it by hand, but that takes hours/days.
Yes no bashing. If no plastic beads you can use saw dust. It cushions the rocks, or whatever, and takes up the volume you lose from the grind. You also must be sure to wash all the grit as you go, because if you for instance, miss one grain of grit as you move on to the finer grades it will scratch the batch and never polish.
Yes need more time on the polishing process
greebleClown Is not much better to do it by hand?
@@user-hd4wf5gq8r Depends on how many stones you’re polishing and what shape and effect you’re going for. (Also sometimes depends on what kind of stone.)
I’ve been tumbling for over a year. There are a couple steps you’ve missed.
First, for steps three and for you need to add small plastic pellets to the mix. These will help the polish be more effective. You can get these at any rock shop.
The big step you missed is the burnishing step. All polished rocks will look dull after the final polish until you burnish them.
After step 4, rinse everything off, then put them back in the tumbler. Add a small amount of dish soap. Tumble for six hours.
Now you have shiny rocks. I wonder what the glass would look like after a burnishing? Never forget the burnishing step.
I’d do a glass burnishing tumble but I gave my stuff to a friend.
Yes do that
A rock shop? You mean there are shops where you can buy rocks to tumble.
Wow what a scam!
Tumbling rock looks so stupid. Why why why?
@@chrish3720 i'm sure there is something you enjoy doing that someone would see as stupid. We're all just passing time until we're dead, I don't think rock tumbling is poor form.
@@akunog3665 Polishing rocks? A waste of resources. Learn trigonometry are something. Polishing rocks? Learn to reload ammunition, blow something up dude. What is wrong with kids these days. Learn the principles of electricity for heaven sake. Polishing rock? Don't buy rock to polish pick them up off the ground for free!
@@chrish3720 and blowing something up is not a waste lol. What about art? Is it a waste to paint a masterpiece, or to compose a song? Is it a waste to sit and watch the sun set?
I love the smooth, pink, square rock. It's just so perfectly square and smooth.
Just found your channel. I just got a rock tumbler, and your video came up. I haven't even watched the whole video, yet, but you're down to earth and funny, so I'm Subscribed. ✌️👍
P.S. I'm on day 8, and I'm not sure if I can handle it, 😂. It's great to be able to watch someone else's adventures. Thanks. Edit: I'm Canadian, and I love your accent. I could've sworn you said "panties were just layin' all over the garage floor", at 6:46 😯🤣😂☺️ Sorry, no offense meant. I love accents.
this man turned his shower thoughts into a bucket list, what a mad lad
Tyler plants a seed, comes back a year later and meets a tree.
"As you can see there is very little change from last year"
Lt Second in comand lol couldn’t have put it better myself .
Depending on what you have in the tumbler, you will have to release a gas that accumulates every day to prevent the "explosion".
The actual polishing step requires a very high grit. You can use a 10k plus grit in the tumbler or a couple other methods to make them really pop, they will look even better than when you showed them wet.
The scoring marks on the center tumbler is probably a clue to why you were breaking belts.
"The Only Difference Between Screwing Around and Science Is Writing It Down"
I can't believe this guy, he can't even remember the names of the Polish grit. He's Clueless about what's happening and continues running the Penny's without water.
Timmothy Heroux taking out the water fixed the problem though apparently, do you have a fix for it that wouldnt have involved taking the water out?
Use thin weight motor oil. You have to have a liquid for the abrasive to work.
ULTRASMURF truth
Ok ive seen that somewere but.i dont know were
Doesn’t wear gloves or goggles when breaking jar. Wears gloves after the glass has been in the tumbler.
Facts
Wow
So what lol
Its funny but i mean splinters and glass dust are far worse so I guess that’s why
Or maybe he just forgot😂😂
Safety First 😆😆😆
After the polish put some type of liquid wax in the tumbler, some polishing compound or finishing compound, or ceramic liquid wax.
Ideas to put in tumblr:
Screws, razor blades, bullets, legos, geodes, some types of animal bones, drill bits, prosthetic eye balls, a mini whiskey single serve bottle, fishing hooks, pieces of different woods, Aarow heads.
Use diff types of grit and use diff types of liquid too( like rubbing alcohol, etc)
Just a note for you from someone who does tumble rocks, Silicone carbide, no matter how fine is it, is not a pre-polish, its still a cutting grit. 1200 Aluminum oxide is actually not a polish, its what many of us who do rock tumbling use as a pre-polish. Final Polish tends to be around 8000 to 14,000 grit. That is what will give you the candy coat wet look mirror shine.
1:54
The Die: *Escapes*
My Brain: OOOOO what'd it land on?
My Dice goblin brain:
WhY wOuLd YoU rUiN sO mAnY sHiNy KLiK-klAkS?!??!
When the die fell it created 6 alternate outcomes to this experiment. We got this one.
@@jorbus1581 need moar, all the moar
It landed on the floor 😉
Just in case nobody has already said it:
The "flats" on the marbles are where glass has flaked off, then the edge smoothed by the grit.
I was thinking maybe there was an air bubble in the marble.
also, as when using acid to polish glass, a small dent would expand exponentially since its now an edge to rub against. i suspect the same with the tumbler, a small imperfection in the surface being eaten up by the sand.
I was thinking they just lodged against each other and stopped rolling. Hence flat spots.
@@jasonbirch1182 That is often the reason
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The frosted glass looks very pretty. Rock-tumbling isn't something I'd want to spend time or money on as a hobby, but the results are cool.
I think a fun thing to try would be to run this again, but leave some out with each stage so that you/we can see the progression of the tumbling with side by side comparison
"And something else I’m curious to see"
Me: raisins?
"Marbles"
Me: oh
SAME!! HAHAHAHA!!!
I honestly thought it was raisins too. Sun-maid.
Rebecca Pechon totally thought they were raisins 😂😅
Haha, that made me laugh!! :)
Same thing tomato tomato
*_19:05_*_ The dice remained prismatic because they are _*_soft_*_ when compared to the grinding media._
*_Softness_*_ is why the tumbler barrel survives a lifetime of interaction with the grit._
_Only your hard brittle objects interacted with the grit in a manner that resulted in significant erosion._
My MIND just EXPANDED 🧠 👁
You gotta think too dice are made to stand up to such treatment
Richard Head yes
This is kind of inspirational
Science is cool
I haven't tumbled a thing in my life but with resin casting and most wood art people sand up to about 1600-3200 grit. Idk if there is a more progressive courses in the tumbling grit but you could sand them with old fashioned wet sandpaper
asphalt had surprised me when i stuck it in my tumbler.
nuts and bolts were something i had wanted to try before my drum broke.
varnish your rocks and buff your glass for the shine that you are looking for.
"idk anything bout rocks , they all look hard to me " -tyler
Kimber Stockwell lmao
They look kinda tasty for me
Or i'm just retarded i guess
Jesus Christ, Mush. They're minerals!
@@fictionmyth 😂😂😂
🤣
Try leaving a rock tumbler in a rock tumbler for 30 days.
YES
SI
My dad once left some rocks in the rock tumbler until he ended up with sand like grit. He did eventually laugh about it and said it was a lesson learned
Leaving a jar in acid for an entire month
Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?
Love your experiment 😁
Excellent way to make seaglass for projects
I think the answer to your belt problem with the one tumbler is the wear mark the drum was leaving on the housing on the motor end. I have one like it for cleaning brass, but I haven't used it yet since I plan on only using it after I've had to anneal my case necks.
Anyway, I did notice when I tested it out to see if it ran, the barrels had a tendency to walk toward the motor end of the machine. I think I'll see if I can bias it down hill to keep it from rubbing and wearing out belts when I get around to using it.
Geologist: as you can see here, we have some granite
Tyler: brown rock
I think you're taking that rock for granite
@@draven4464 that pun rocks
the brown rock was a tiger eye, not granite
@@myarchus1 it’s a joke
There are literally dozens of different rock types, they are not all granite
The glass was definitely really cool. Another experiment might be to try different aggregates. Wonder if baking soda would do anything to polish further.
Corn starch might be an interesting polish aggregate to try as well
This makes me want my own rock tumbler to make my own sea glass
Dragon Storm yeah same. I ordered one on amazon and bought some green bottles to break. Got big plans for that tumbler lol
I would love to get a rock tumbler and coloured glass and then make a river table and coat the coloured glass in epoxy, I feel like that would be really pretty
@@gigglegal1988 That actually would be pretty cool. I definitely want to get a tumbler too now. Would also make a fun project to build one.
For the tumbler that keeps breaking belts: try checking under the bearing covers on the non-driven end. Mine had a snap ring that would hit the cover. I put washers under the cover to raise it just a little bit.
Cool video!! I know you're not a geology nerd, but glass is made of silica (silicon dioxide) and so are about 90% of all rocks and minerals in one form or another on earth. What differentiates them is the addition of other elements and /or minerals. Quartz is a fantastic example. Clear quartz has more in common with common glass, as it is essentially nothing but silicon dioxide. Amethyst, a purple quartz is purple because of the addition of iron. Rose Quartz is pink because of traces of iron, manganese, or titanium. So what you essentially are making with the mason jar is called beach glass. Stuff can be beautiful especially when colored glass is used. Oh, and you are correct about the pennies. The US mint changed over from all copper to copper clad zinc 1983-84. Still costs more to produce them than what they are worth. Not completely sure about why you had troubles with your barrels pressurizing. Best guess is that your water is slightly acidic, which would react with the zinc, creating hydrogen gas to cause a pressure build up. Seems unlikely, but possible. Lastly, those big marbles are "Mashers", they are used to hit the smaller ones out of the circle when you play, kind of like a cue ball in pool.
If you want a real polish on them you’ll want a cloth wheel for your grinder or drill, maybe a spray on clear coat or epoxy could clear things up
The dimple was because some of the glass chipped off due to a defect in the marble at the beginning. SOmetimes there's internal cracks or air bubbles near the surface of marbles. It broke and rounded off the broken edges to make a flat dimple spot.
He made sea glass and sea marbles
Have both of those styles, i like having both. The double barrel from harbor freight has been flawless over several months of run time. Same with the other.
The cause of the explosions was probably the zinc reacting with the water to form hydrogen gas and zinc hydroxide. The gas will of built up increasing the pressure until the lid blew off.
I'm not sure what the aggregate is made of because I wasn't listening too hard or you didn't say it, but you may have been producing small amounts of hydrogen with the pennies. That might be why the lid was flying off. It would also explain the heavy oxidation of the zinc
That doesn't make sense for the other two that did it later... Like I said perhaps it's the aggregate causing it lol
Did a little research and apparently man-made glass, volcanic glass, metallic ore minerals, metals, and blast furnace slag among other things can produce gas when tumbled. That's probs what was causing these lids to fly off. Still not sure why because they don't explain much outside of releasing trapped gas / reacting with aggregate but I'm thinking that's why
It’s silicone carbonate
Thugasaurus Rex and the polish/prepolish is aluminum oxide
@@baconeggs5681 silicon carbide
I’d say the two other times were cause by the same thing. They may have taken longer due to the lesser amounts of copper
I think you're on the right track. Some kind of chemical reaction with the zinc.
Prediction: the dice will be completely powderized
EDIT: I've never been so wrong about anything in my life
I think the dice are clumping up because the barrel is so full. So only the sides are getting agitated against each other. If he had maybe half as many and threw in some marbles to encourage agitation it might do more.
When have you ever heard of. Dice breaking? There’s even a trick out there of putting your dice in an oven to get them to always land on one side, and they stilll look thememy theory is that they’re durable little fucks that are built to last, otherwise, well, the glass did a. Similar thing after the thin edges were removed
@@Yomotomen Horrible punctuation and comma use, I must say
Gustav E. Jaanus Well, I guess it’s good to know that the only real criticism for my comment is my poor punctuation.
Gustav E. Jaanus you must be fun at parties
Running a HF dual barrel tumbler now. Had to put risers on the motor side feet so that the barrels would quit jumping and binding. After that, it runs smooth. I'm sure the QC tolerances are lax on these. Other commenters mention plastic pellets, I run ceramic pellets. Borax for a shiny polish run after the 4 stages are done.
You should see what glass looks like coming out of the ocean. I used to find broken beer bottles and they looked awesome. Smooth and clouded.
The two major factors that I believe in dramatically improving your results: it looked like you didn't really clean the tumblers between rounds because the debris was still covering them all over. Absolutely all of the previous material needs to be cleaned out because the tumblers final result will follow whatever heaviest scratching surface is available inside no matter how little, effectively negating your next grit. The other major factor I saw was too much water. Cut it closer to the surface. This has potential to be a really great video series, if you can get the results to come through. Good luck in the future.
Your 'sand' is silicone carbide, the same stuff on wet and dry sandpaper. The white polishing compound is Tin or Aluminium Oxide. Your brown stone was Tiger's Eye, blue rock is Lapis Lazuli, the pink stuff was Rose Quartz, the white stuff is Quartz and if you had any purple stuff it would be Amethyst. Your flat marble was stuck against the wall of the drum, stuck there with other marbles on top of it. With your stones, you need another week or pre-polish and another week of final polish and they will come out shiny. Each finer grit removes the scratches that the previous grit has made. The gas build up with the clad coins is because you have a layer of zinc and a layer of copper, add water and you end up with a voltaic cell, a battery, and it created gas from H2O releasing oxygen and hydrogen. When I tumbled stone, I let the build up of gas out every two or three days as it can also happen with the stones if the water or grit has impurities..
But can I use that Lapis Lazuli to enchant my survival cane?
@@realwickedbrew my thoughts exactly
You want the rocks 'shinier,' run the tumbler longer than a week...
They also make, (or used to make), these rubber pellets, that you'd add to the tumbler and rocks. They really made a good polished surface on the stones. Sometimes what the stones are actually made out of, will affect the shine.
The glass and the marbles are both made with super high heat. They get the gloss from that. It's impossible to 'polish,' glass and make it shine as it did originally.
As for the broken belts, you can see where the drum was rolling against the side of the tumbler. There's a big scare where they were rubbing. The added friction between tumbler and drum might have caused over stress on the belt.
Something was out of alignment to cause this to happen. Misalignment may also cause undue stress on the belt.
Too much weight in the drum may also be an issue.
The black coating on the pennies is actually the grit. When the grit dries it can be like cement, which is why you never pour the water down your drain
Nobody:
Tyler: hmm these rocks are made of rock
smart boye
They all look hard to me.
frederik jonassen that rocks
About the same level of truism as "harbor freight tools are hit or miss"
When zinc reacts with water, hydrogen gas is produced, explaining why the lid of the coin tumbler kept blowing off
Very interesting
It can also be a reaction with the friction fusion of silicon carbide and copper. Both can contribute
Well it actually makes zinc oxide and hydrogen gas from the zinc fusing with the oxygen in water and leaving behind the hydrogen
So he could have potentially had a hydrogen explosion in his garage... Nice.
Copper + Zinc + water sounds like a battery formula to me.
I see a lot of comments… the problem with what was going on, is you didn’t do any research on on how to do your rocks. Your rocks are like that because you have to do a rinse cycle after each grit tumble except the polish that’s up to you. Your rocks can look shiny and not dull.
Can we see the slurry from each of the different barrels? I would be interested to see what that looks like, if it's really thick or thin or foamy or whatever. I'm curious because I'm in the learning stages of regular rock tumbling and the consistency of the slurry is really important when you are deciding whether or not to move a rock on to the "next stage" or not. Thanks for the really interesting video, I'm gonna play around with my tumblers too and throw in different stuff besides rocks just to see what happens too just cause of this video
Me: Ooooo that's fluorite, that's granite, andisite....
Tyler:
*Rocks are Rocks*
islo phobia that’s totally me! I see rose quartz in there too and tigers eye.
Jesus Christ Marie, they're minerals.
I was doing that too, trying to name them all. I would definitely take the rose quartz and Dalmatian jasper off his hands.
@@marianhoblyn1901 sAme
Every time he says rocks I die a little inside
If you burnish the stones with soap after all of the polishing, you’ll get that shiny look on them.
Michael Kaczmarek burnish? What does that mean
Nutmeg You take an ivory soap bar or some other non perfumes soap and run it in the tumbler with water and the stone for a few hours. That’ll let it keep its shiny look.
@@michaelkaczmarek4395 oh okay! Thats awesome
@@nutmeg9005 It means to polish something, especially metal, by rubbing
@@paulweston8184 shout out to google.
The marbles and dice are not frosted because "the surface has been taken off".. its because they are totally 'scratched up'. If you polish them up they will be like glass again
Great video, thanks for the inspiration! I looked for a link to the tumbler on Amazon in the description, it wasn’t there yet. Background stuff you buy you can also link to, not just equipment used in production, just an idea.
The frosted looks has nothing to do with any coating being taken off the frosted look comes from all the tiny little scratches
Yep. I refinished a headlight after some assholes decided to spraypaint it black. Went all the way to 2500 grit sandpaper on the lens, and it was as cloudy as the glass until I finally threw the rattle can clear coat on it.
@@AJsarge1 You could just have polished them with rubbing aftet ~2000 grit
And the coating being taken off. Or to you maintain that the coating is still there?
Your comment is sooooo not correct.. Excuse me but a bunch of TINY SCRATCHES would be the coating being taken off.. Or should i say scratched off so your wrong !!!
AJsarge 2500 ain’t fine enough go to 4000 and buff it by hand afterwards no need for clear
The only thing I learned here is I am way too easily entertained.
Robert Van Hoy I learned I would make a damned video on why one HF tumbler broke belts and that this guy has to be the least curious person ever. 8 belts and no idea why. 1964? 1974? 1984? He’s unaffected and that’s his thing. Like sweeping the floor. This floor has dirt on it and this floor has glue on it. Let’s sweep. (One broom has no bristles and uses it on the dirt) nothing happens and I have no idea why. Just use hands in a frustrated way. What if he washed his beard with dish soap for a month. It’s growing everywhere and I have no idea why(as he can’t quit picking us itchy nose) something has happened to my nose and I have no idea why. My nose has changed. I have no idea why. All I did was wash my face hair and I hate my nose. I have no idea why. My kid washes his face and he doesn’t hate his nose, he doesn’t even have a beard. No idea why. My neighbor doesn’t wash his beard at all. Just rubs it with bacon grease. He loves his nose and smiles as dogs lick his face, I have no idea why.
Adventures of a Citybilly who hurt u
@@doctorain tf
At least this is better than playing with a tiny feather that came out of my coat.
I think I've spent too long around just my cats.
Penny's /coins and brass / spent bullet casings use crushed walnut shells or crushed corn cobs. Or maybe follow the instructions that came with the rock tumblers. And why would one try to polish glass /marbles that are already polished to a perfect shine. As far as polishing rocks follow the instructions it works. The results are amazing and the rocks change in appearance from the first stage to the last the outcome is rewarding .
I've been watching this channel on my tv for over 2 years and wasn't even subscribed.. the algorithm continues to bless me.
Hey Tyler,
I enjoyed someone else playing with rocks. Pretty soon you'll be checking out the parking lots the mall or the doctors office. We have spent many days searching the Fairburn agate fields, and the tepee canyon agate fields. If nothing else it's good bonding time with your wife.
Now when you really get the bug, you wonder how you can speed up the polishing process. Me, I was in the garage looking around and my eyes settled on my big wood lathe. Now since I bought my smaller one, I thought this is my answer. It was a good answer too. I went to Lowe's and bought 30 inches of 6 inch plastic pipe. I bought a cap for one end, and a threaded plug and adapted for the other ene. I also bought a nice big piece of rubber tool box liner to line the tube with. I had no idea how much the tube would weigh when it was ready to run. Would you believe 40 pounds? Fortunately I had a set of heavy duty rollers and brackets I used for another project. It all worked great. The only real problem I had was you must change the tube out after every 5 complete polishing runs. The good part is the tube, cap, and adapted don't cost that much. I am still using the original cap.
A little more and I will quit yapping. Find a good local grandmaster supply store, and buy your grits 5 gallons at a time. We use 4 grits, 2 polishes and a last run with Ivory soap cut up in the tube no grit. The soap helps to burnish the rocks.
Here lately I have playing with alabaster ( gypsum). You can use all of your wood tools on it.
Well I have talked enough.I wish you all good luck and ask that you keep me posted. At 70 I am still ready to learn.
Good God.
But I would rather have him doing THIS
That’s very long
Should have written more.
Thank you Ted! This was all very interesting for me to learn and I hope plenty other learn from this as well!
This was fun to read, thank you for sharing your experience w rocks with us! 💛
Now, just drill holes in the glass, tye together with string, and make a wind chime.
Never understood wind chimes. They all sound annoying to me. Al either If ya do dig that stuff it's not a bad idea.
You and wind chimes have something in common then
@@RyuuHatake no. Just offering him a suggestion what he could do with the glass now that he's had it in the tumbler for so long.
@@littlekingcobrasden4217 ..... he was calling the other commentor annoying...
Spinning metal (pennies) generate a very small amount of electric current (Foucault). that electricity creates a water electrolysis, breaking up liquit water in Oxygen and hydrogen gaz. This is why you get pressure in the barrel ;-) (Sorry for this bad english, I'm french speaker.) Thanks for this vid, I like it ! Axelle.
I wanna see someone put bones in a rock tumbler honestly
I have hella bones ima do that now
@@garrettsmith7422 bro??
If you want a harder, glossier shine, After cleaning thoroughly, add a teaspoon of your final polish choice and a half teaspoon of dawn dishwashing liquid per pound of rock to the barrel along with a half barrel of water (or the level you ended up using in Polish step 1).
@tylertube
He is also not using a proper liquid to abrasive ratio he clearly did not read the instructions, each step needs to be done for at least 45 days
@@chasingdemons7231 If you did the first coarse step for 45 days you wouldn't have anything left for the next steps - just sand maybe. But yeah polishing can be done for quite a while, also he probably didn't thoroughly clean each tumbler barrel and rocks thus grit from previous runs was left over and it ruined the polish.
@@TheFriskySquid I've been polishing and rock tumbling for 14 years and if you read the instructions the first step is the most important and can be done for up to 45 days on rocks considering they are "rock" tumblers.......you have no idea what your talking about
Correct, it works me,really well on brass.
8:21
Hey! My comment got mentioned about the pennies. It is indeed 1981 when the pennies were not made of copper anymore and 1982 when the new metals of zinc and such were implemented.
Bray014 the penny was actually switched in 1982 half way through the year
@@HiHi-vf4rs ok. Thanks for the info
The switch was actually mid year in '82. You can weigh them to determine if an '82 is the 95% copper or not.
Thanks for this information kind sir 🙂
Lmao “I’d actually like tumble glass in my free time” I think that quote has never been used before. 10/10 for originality.
Back in the 60's and early 70's shooting marbles was a game. The set you bought had two shooters and the game marbles. You would draw a circle in the dirt, sand, on concrete or blacktop. Put the game marbles in the circle and take turns using your shooter to knock game marbles out of the circle. All the marbles you shot out of the circle, you collect and put in your can or pocket, then the next player takes their turn. You try to knock out as many as you can with each shot. After the last marble is shot out of the circle, they person who has more marbles in their collection won the game.
I've used rock tumblers as a kid, they definitely get a "wet shine" look when done right. I'm not sure what was different either but I do know we used to have to wait almost 3 months for them to look like that.
When I saw the dice going in to the barrel I thought, "I hope they don't die."
Nataca swacca underrated comment 😂
If they do, they go to pair-a-dice.
08mlascelles I wasn’t going to like the comment but your comment swayed me. This won’t be the hill I die on.
Had me rolling.
You must be a high roller with this comment
Rock tumbling requires a little more preparation and work than you have done. I would suggest you watch some videos by rock tumbling enthusiasts like Michigan rocks. The tumbling works better when the barrel is full to the correct level with the right amount of water, and grit. With to little material in the barrel and too much water there is diminished grinding because there is more room around the components so they don't rub on each other. The same happens if there isn't enough grit, things won't grind. It's also important to clean the things you are grinding and the barrel well between stages. It is also a good idea to burnish the items before the polish stage, bringing them for a few hours with oral or shaved ivory soap to get the items cleaned well before the polish. You can expect some pressure to build up at the start of a tumbling cycle so it is necessary yo burp a barrel occasionally. Any dip or hollow in what you are tumbling will get grit or polish in it and needs cleaned out before it dries. Just a few tips to get a better shine. Also some grits you buy don't work as well as others and just clump up in the barrel so you can try different suppliers.
Redo the rocks with the final polish, add some dice to the mix so the drum is about 2/3 full. Then rinse the drum, dice and rocks and tumble with soap and water.
Put the coins in an ultrasonic cleaner.
No replies come on
@@THEBOSS47MLG takes too long lol
@@THEBOSS47MLG i had one here, but it seems to have been erased..
A little brasso and copper pennies will shine.
I love how this man doesn’t read instructions it just makes everything just that much better
Who reads instructions?
@@kevmasengale6903 I do! After I can't figure out how that freakin' thing works xD
Sometimes I wonder if you go out of your way to do things wrong. You're funny AF dude. I mean, I know that usually a comment like this sounds like an insult. It's not from me. It's just an observation, and I LOVE your videos, because, you're not out there trying to make everything you buy look good for the likes. You are doing an "honest" job at looking at these things from the perspective of someone who is entirely clueless and could give a shit less. I love it!
30 days should have been 3 days of the heavy grit, 4 days of the medium, a week of the pre-polish and 2 weeks of the polish. That would have made things turn out much closer to what you were looking for.
But it's also been 4 years. This is old news to you, and new to me. At least these old videos are still showing up for us, and people like me still find them useful! Thank you!