Over half way through and just realized how small your channel is, that's crazy! This is the type of quality i expect from channels magnitudes larger, we should watch your career with great interest.
The novelization should get this since it addresses a lot of these complaints. I understand you were doing the game alone and you could argue they did not have the technology to do Witcher 3 length in depth dialogue. The Unleashed novel is getting an unabridged audio book in November and I can't wait. In terms of Force powers, it's my favorite and I can't look at another Force user kindly when they complain about handling 20 people. Give me a break.
@@RickyUzumaki993 I mean, if Force sensatives were as weak as some of the movies and books make them out to be, they would be dead very quick among a galaxy of hostile trillions.
This is absolutely incredible, put this on while sick and everything made perfect sense despite my mind being in the abyss, freaking loved it man, hope you come out with more!
It’s interesting how in the main version of the game the line delivery for the “drown in some cantina” line is so hopeful, compared to the Krome version where Starkiller sounds like he couldn’t care less. - Also, side note, as a sequels fan, I appreciate your negativity about them being genuine criticism, not mindless hate.
Concerning the Kota Question: either he withdrew from the force as best as he could because of his failure or he tested Galen. Let me explain the reasoning. In the extended Lore Kota is descripted as a very confident man thinking highly of his skills since he achieved everything despite comming later into the order then anyone else (we has already commanded tropps at the point) . His failure must have been all the more devastating to him. So he might have succumbed to self - doubt and rejected the force. More likely he did this until it called to him on Bespin. When he felt Galen he might have suspected his identity. but pretending to be blind to the force would have given him a chance to see how Galen dealt with an "easy pawn". Galen could have used the situation way more if he wanted but the way he interacted with Kota showed him to be the troubled individual that Kota knew he would find after his vision. Just my thoughts.
@2:18:03 Red crystals were supposed to be made in a few ways, but apparently, you can also put your hate into a normal crystal to "make it bleed" and turn it red.
To answer your issue with people suddenly changing kyber crystals. In the lore you can "bleed" any crystal to turn it red by forcing darkness on it. This explains how Maris Brood had two red sabers. However ive never heard of healing a kyber crystal so im unsure how Galen got his hands on blue.. though it does make sense to have a light side variation of the process he was not actually lightside at that time. Only just being ordered to pretend to.
That's for current lore Though. Time of this games release it was just synthetic kyber crystals the Sith used. (if i remember correctly Red isn't a color Kyber crystals take.) And healing a kyber crystal turns it white. Like how Ahoska's current lightsaber Is white. She killed and inquisitor and healed his crystal.
I definitely like the Jedi white robes it contrasts against Vader and the emperor black robes plus there hints black color to show there is some darkness in Starkiller.
Man what a great video I put this on to listen to at work and was pretty shocked at the subscriber count. The amount of time and effort that went into this will take you far. Great work bro!
About a third of the way through. I’m really glad to see someone going in depth on this game. It’s definitely a great one, but also has some glaring flaws. I personally have yet to replay it, and prefer the Wii version I had first. Although, that version has its own flaws for sure. I’d honestly love if you were willing to do a video like this on that version as well, since I think there’s a very different feel to the whole game, likely a result of a different team and different limitations and freedoms. Would definitely say I prefer the bosses and QTEs of that version, as well as some of the added events(even if the Jedi Temple missions make no sense). Would that be something you’re willing to do, out of curiosity? Either way, I love this video.
To Answer your Question at 1:15:00 Those are simply referred to as Felucian flying manta's and Their Lore on Wookieepedia is very Slim, also Loving your Retrospective so far and I'm glad TH-cam Recommended it keep up the great work sir
Your entire rant about the script of Vader saying he lied to star killer entirely hinges on you believing Vader. I think it was made very apparent Vader fully intended on overthrowing the emperor with starkiller but over the course of the game didn’t think it was possible and is now selling the idea that Starkiller was a tool of the emperor the whole time. Just found it weird that you took Vader at his word there.
@@FingFantasticFox You take the writers at their word. If youre lying about a lie to your audience and relying on character traits to make the plot make sense WITHOUT explaining that to your audience, you're writing poorly. End of story.
@@KateriYT i think at a certain point though the writers are not responsible for explaining everything. I find media literacy to be important and should be valued.
@@FingFantasticFox Its not worth it for me to type paragraphs here on this. It is the writers job to make their plot coherent enough that we don't have to assume a double lie out of a character to make it make sense That's not media literacy, that's bad writing
I've only ever played this game on the Wii and it's almost insane how much difference there is between that version and this version, it's almost a completely different game
51:00 I understand your frustrations at this point. However, if you use both sticks (if using a controller) you can really give the metal a good pull, making the experience a little less painful. The metal, however is still frustratingly stiff and pain had been experienced many times for many of us Sith/Jedi.
Okay so I remember there being 2 levels at a Jedi Temple which the video seems to talk about but not show, one before the first betrayal and one after. I recall fighting a sith the first time and I think Kento Marekthe second time. Is this part of the dlc or simply a different version of the game? I've heard that the PS2 and Xbox 360 versions are different, as the video mentioned during the junk planet, but didn't know for sure.
The Wii is the repackaged PS2 version. These came out at a time when last gen versions were completely different games. I personally like the Wii/PS2 version better
51:00 was due to the 60fps mod, I experienced that myself but chose to bite the bullet and remove the mod because I was tired of dealing with the caveats that came with it.
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Ye i love this game!!! This and Clone Wars certainly washed away the foul taste the snooze fest, awfully written, political nightmares of the prequels. Back in 2011 (yes i was late) i thought "huh so does star wars no longer create fun compelling character arcs anymore" before being proven wrong by Dave Filoni, Sam Witwer & many others!! it's almost as if one person not having too much power is a good thing... now that we have Rebels, Bad Batch, Rogue One, Force Awakens, Mandalorian, Ahsoka, JFO, JS etc i feel stupid for worrying about star wars no longer creating compelling stories, but back then....
52:28 the Xbox 360 version talks about how the guardians get their energy from the force. The ps3 doesn’t clarify it. Just a weird difference between the two I guess.
Great video I don't like this game I wish it was just Vader hunting Jedi as a game like the purge comics Starkiller is just too much for me especially him beating Vader in both games plus the story as you've pointed has so many problems. Nice to see another Mauler fan long live the longman.
This is an incredibly disputable statement. The only records of Jedi having children in either continuity that they *didn't* hide from the Council was Ki-Adi-Mundi, and his was due to the low birth rate present in his species. The evidence would show that they were, in fact, not allowed to have children as a standard.
I think it might be breaking the glass causes the gas to start but that's my best guess and proxy is a Droid that's not living until Disney decided they're Alive and secretly want free does anyone remember solo
If I Continued This To Force Unleashed 3. I'll Embrace The Fact That These two games aren't Canon. More Creative Freedom for Me. It Take Place after The Sith Ending of This game, and It's Sith Hoth DLC. As an Opening: Sideous, after Learning Of Luke Sky walker's Capture, Makes Starkiller and Luke, (assumed to Be turned Fully under The Dark side) And Forces them to Duke it Out, In order to Serve the Rule of 2. The Beginning of The Game is a Tutorial Boss Fight with Dark Side Luke. We Defeat Luke Enough, where cutscene plays out Like The Button Prompt of the end of the Bosses of The First Game. But instead of constantly Pressing Buttons During The Cutscene, You Just get the Pleasure of Watching Luke and Galen Merrick Slashing Lightsabers in such a Fast Flurry, That Sparks Come Flying out Like Rain. They Do that Until They Stike each other Back at Opposite ends of The Room, Then Sprint at Full Speed To Lock Blades Right infront of The Emperor, Whos Enjoying this with Twisted Enjoyment. Galen and Luke Charge Purple and Red Lightning into Their Blades that are Pushing against each other. Then, With The Might of The Two Warriors, They Channel all that Energy, And Unleash it at Palpetine. But The Emperor, Predicting This, Force Pushes That Energy away, It's You and Luke VS Emperor Palpetine, The TRUE first Boss, With The Emperor Weilding His Iconic 2 Lightsabers from that Fight against Darth Maul and his Brother. The Fight Leads to a Knocked out Luke, and Starkiller Force Pulls Luke's Lightsaber to his Free hand to Block The Force Lightning from Sidieous. Galen, Being Weakened without The Sith Holocron inside his Back. Almost Loses, But Then Darth VADER comes Back as Force Ghost to Help Save his Son. And it Plays out like Mace windu Blocking Force Lightning from Revenge of The Sith. In The Emperor's Last Moments, Realizing his Position. Accepts his Fate and Dies. Leaving Starkiller as The Emperor's Successor.
you don't change the lightsaber crystal when u go dark side, you "bleed it" using the dark side, which corrupts the crystal and gives it the red colour...
Did some research after reading this. You're correct that there is a lightsaber color change in the lore through an effect called bleeding, and this would explain Maris' lightsaber change, but it would have to be the fastest bleed in all of Star Wars lore. It would also create a continuity error if bleeding happened at that pace with Starkiller's new blue crystal not turning eventually red. Thank you for the information. Also, there are still natural red crystals and they can be materially synthesized from other crystals, so bleeding isn't the only red crystals explanation in Star Wars lore.
But that is current lore. Bleeding crystals wasn't the lore present in this games release. I guess we could include it as head canon but time of release that isn't how it works.
Really wanted to appreciate the video but the annoying loud background music killed it. What is it with TH-camrs copying each other's crap standards ? A video essay with a calm voice, a comfortable pace, relevant illustrations, it's all we should require for such format. What a pity :(
@@Milo95 I copied what I prefer to watch. I prefer my video essays with background music, increases the quality and engagement. I think the presence of it in most essays is evidence that most people agree, as the video is incredibly empty without it. A shame you disagree, but I hope you find the content youre looking for.
1:15:00 those are felucian flying mantas or rippers
Over half way through and just realized how small your channel is, that's crazy! This is the type of quality i expect from channels magnitudes larger, we should watch your career with great interest.
Same
Should watch his ultimate alliance review as well.
got in to retrospective videos recently and this is exactly what I wanted. I will sleep happy for weeks
The novelization should get this since it addresses a lot of these complaints. I understand you were doing the game alone and you could argue they did not have the technology to do Witcher 3 length in depth dialogue. The Unleashed novel is getting an unabridged audio book in November and I can't wait. In terms of Force powers, it's my favorite and I can't look at another Force user kindly when they complain about handling 20 people. Give me a break.
Agreed
@@RickyUzumaki993 I mean, if Force sensatives were as weak as some of the movies and books make them out to be, they would be dead very quick among a galaxy of hostile trillions.
@@darthbane3937
True
This is absolutely incredible, put this on while sick and everything made perfect sense despite my mind being in the abyss, freaking loved it man, hope you come out with more!
This brought back so many fond memories for me, one of my favorite games of all time. Thank you so much for making this video.
It’s interesting how in the main version of the game the line delivery for the “drown in some cantina” line is so hopeful, compared to the Krome version where Starkiller sounds like he couldn’t care less.
- Also, side note, as a sequels fan, I appreciate your negativity about them being genuine criticism, not mindless hate.
Concerning the Kota Question: either he withdrew from the force as best as he could because of his failure or he tested Galen. Let me explain the reasoning. In the extended Lore Kota is descripted as a very confident man thinking highly of his skills since he achieved everything despite comming later into the order then anyone else (we has already commanded tropps at the point) . His failure must have been all the more devastating to him. So he might have succumbed to self - doubt and rejected the force.
More likely he did this until it called to him on Bespin. When he felt Galen he might have suspected his identity. but pretending to be blind to the force would have given him a chance to see how Galen dealt with an "easy pawn". Galen could have used the situation way more if he wanted but the way he interacted with Kota showed him to be the troubled individual that Kota knew he would find after his vision.
Just my thoughts.
1. Pretty damn generous
2. Good writing wouldn't require this level is dissection, sadly.
@2:18:03 Red crystals were supposed to be made in a few ways, but apparently, you can also put your hate into a normal crystal to "make it bleed" and turn it red.
To answer your issue with people suddenly changing kyber crystals. In the lore you can "bleed" any crystal to turn it red by forcing darkness on it. This explains how Maris Brood had two red sabers. However ive never heard of healing a kyber crystal so im unsure how Galen got his hands on blue.. though it does make sense to have a light side variation of the process he was not actually lightside at that time. Only just being ordered to pretend to.
That's for current lore Though. Time of this games release it was just synthetic kyber crystals the Sith used. (if i remember correctly Red isn't a color Kyber crystals take.) And healing a kyber crystal turns it white. Like how Ahoska's current lightsaber Is white. She killed and inquisitor and healed his crystal.
@@TheLoveless26 unfortunately this is Disney canon only. The legends timeline utilized synthetic crystals.
And purifying “bled” crystals turns them white-that’s where Ahsoka’s white sabers come from.
Starting your channel with a banger I see.
I always thought that he’s picking up the pieces of his saber because he doesn’t want Vader to see him struggling with his saber construction
This would be a fair interpretation
I definitely like the Jedi white robes it contrasts against Vader and the emperor black robes plus there hints black color to show there is some darkness in Starkiller.
Man what a great video I put this on to listen to at work and was pretty shocked at the subscriber count. The amount of time and effort that went into this will take you far. Great work bro!
We all have to start somewhere. Thank you for the watch and kind words :)
This man needs more subs and views ASAP. Keep up the good work my friend!
Ah your first video essay and it’s star wars! A surprise to be sure but a welcome one, we shall watch your career with great interest.. :)
Backwards lightsaber is still cool!
Most underrated channel.
Like how the tangent about leveling at 29 mins just describes kotor skill tree
tru
So Kota’s force bubble is how he intended to survive the fall into nar shadda?
About a third of the way through. I’m really glad to see someone going in depth on this game. It’s definitely a great one, but also has some glaring flaws. I personally have yet to replay it, and prefer the Wii version I had first. Although, that version has its own flaws for sure. I’d honestly love if you were willing to do a video like this on that version as well, since I think there’s a very different feel to the whole game, likely a result of a different team and different limitations and freedoms. Would definitely say I prefer the bosses and QTEs of that version, as well as some of the added events(even if the Jedi Temple missions make no sense). Would that be something you’re willing to do, out of curiosity? Either way, I love this video.
Maybe someday but unlikely anytime soon. I have a list of games I'm going through.
@@KateriYT Fair. Great video either way.
To Answer your Question at 1:15:00 Those are simply referred to as Felucian flying manta's and Their Lore on Wookieepedia is very Slim, also Loving your Retrospective so far and I'm glad TH-cam Recommended it keep up the great work sir
I finished the video. I loved the formar. Your voice is good and you way to speak is good. Keep going, bro! I wait for the next video
Thank you for watching! Will do!
Your entire rant about the script of Vader saying he lied to star killer entirely hinges on you believing Vader. I think it was made very apparent Vader fully intended on overthrowing the emperor with starkiller but over the course of the game didn’t think it was possible and is now selling the idea that Starkiller was a tool of the emperor the whole time. Just found it weird that you took Vader at his word there.
@@FingFantasticFox You take the writers at their word. If youre lying about a lie to your audience and relying on character traits to make the plot make sense WITHOUT explaining that to your audience, you're writing poorly. End of story.
@@KateriYT i think at a certain point though the writers are not responsible for explaining everything. I find media literacy to be important and should be valued.
@@FingFantasticFox Its not worth it for me to type paragraphs here on this. It is the writers job to make their plot coherent enough that we don't have to assume a double lie out of a character to make it make sense
That's not media literacy, that's bad writing
@@KateriYT agree to disagree I guess.
I always felt it changed when the emperor showed up and told him to kill starkiller
SWFU is peak Videogame!!
Really nice vid bro. Crazy that this is your first video. keep up the great work!
I've only ever played this game on the Wii and it's almost insane how much difference there is between that version and this version, it's almost a completely different game
After TFU2, I'm gonna do TFU Wii Retrospective because of this fact
51:00
I understand your frustrations at this point. However, if you use both sticks (if using a controller) you can really give the metal a good pull, making the experience a little less painful. The metal, however is still frustratingly stiff and pain had been experienced many times for many of us Sith/Jedi.
Okay so I remember there being 2 levels at a Jedi Temple which the video seems to talk about but not show, one before the first betrayal and one after. I recall fighting a sith the first time and I think Kento Marekthe second time. Is this part of the dlc or simply a different version of the game? I've heard that the PS2 and Xbox 360 versions are different, as the video mentioned during the junk planet, but didn't know for sure.
Ps2 version
Highly underrated channel
I’m really sad, I got mostly through this game, to the star destroyer part where janky controls had me a minor bit stuck and my Xbox broke
Looking forward to seeing more videos from you! Hopefully also in a long format as this was extremely enjoyable
If you like long format, just you wait for the next one.
i got this game on Nintendo wii i loved it on the wii made me feel badass like i was the sith lord
Great video mate can't wait for the dlc video
I hope you review more Star Wars video games
Great video I can’t wait for more!
Just curious, are playing this on the Xbox 360? I’ve only ever play The Force Unleashed on the Wii and it looks quite a bit different
The Wii is the repackaged PS2 version. These came out at a time when last gen versions were completely different games. I personally like the Wii/PS2 version better
I think that starkiller might be so powerful in the force that he sees the flashes, but nobody else would. Just an idea
I love your content bro, too fkn notch
Literally 100% this last month…
I love this video and we will be watching your career with great interest
you should do FU2
51:00 was due to the 60fps mod, I experienced that myself but chose to bite the bullet and remove the mod because I was tired of dealing with the caveats that came with it.
I was always under the impression that Force Unleashed was never canon, because having a sith that powerful, even in Legends, would break the universe
Force Unleashed was, in fact, considered a canonical story before Disney placed the Legends label on it
Awesome video dude
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Just realized this video js 3 hours long holy shit let's goo
Wii version > this Xbox 360
Ye i love this game!!! This and Clone Wars certainly washed away the foul taste the snooze fest, awfully written, political nightmares of the prequels. Back in 2011 (yes i was late) i thought "huh so does star wars no longer create fun compelling character arcs anymore" before being proven wrong by Dave Filoni, Sam Witwer & many others!! it's almost as if one person not having too much power is a good thing... now that we have Rebels, Bad Batch, Rogue One, Force Awakens, Mandalorian, Ahsoka, JFO, JS etc i feel stupid for worrying about star wars no longer creating compelling stories, but back then....
52:28 the Xbox 360 version talks about how the guardians get their energy from the force. The ps3 doesn’t clarify it. Just a weird difference between the two I guess.
I hope you do this for more SW games
Great video I don't like this game I wish it was just Vader hunting Jedi as a game like the purge comics Starkiller is just too much for me especially him beating Vader in both games plus the story as you've pointed has so many problems. Nice to see another Mauler fan long live the longman.
God I would love another game like Force Unleashed just a fun what if game
Actually jedi could have as many kids with as many people as they want, they just can't get attached
This is an incredibly disputable statement. The only records of Jedi having children in either continuity that they *didn't* hide from the Council was Ki-Adi-Mundi, and his was due to the low birth rate present in his species.
The evidence would show that they were, in fact, not allowed to have children as a standard.
Subbed, look forward to more
I think it might be breaking the glass causes the gas to start but that's my best guess and proxy is a Droid that's not living until Disney decided they're Alive and secretly want free does anyone remember solo
If I Continued This To Force Unleashed 3.
I'll Embrace The Fact That These two games aren't Canon.
More Creative Freedom for Me.
It Take Place after The Sith Ending of This game, and It's Sith Hoth DLC.
As an Opening:
Sideous, after Learning Of Luke Sky walker's Capture,
Makes Starkiller and Luke, (assumed to Be turned Fully under The Dark side)
And Forces them to Duke it Out,
In order to Serve the Rule of 2.
The Beginning of The Game is a Tutorial Boss Fight with Dark Side Luke.
We Defeat Luke Enough,
where cutscene plays out Like The Button Prompt of the end of the Bosses of The First Game.
But instead of constantly Pressing Buttons During The Cutscene,
You Just get the Pleasure of Watching Luke and Galen Merrick Slashing Lightsabers in such a Fast Flurry,
That Sparks Come Flying out Like Rain.
They Do that Until They Stike each other Back at Opposite ends of The Room,
Then Sprint at Full Speed To Lock Blades Right infront of The Emperor,
Whos Enjoying this with Twisted Enjoyment.
Galen and Luke Charge Purple and Red Lightning into Their Blades that are Pushing against each other.
Then, With The Might of The Two Warriors,
They Channel all that Energy,
And Unleash it at Palpetine.
But The Emperor, Predicting This,
Force Pushes That Energy away,
It's You and Luke VS Emperor Palpetine, The TRUE first Boss,
With The Emperor Weilding
His Iconic 2 Lightsabers from that Fight against Darth Maul and his Brother.
The Fight Leads to a Knocked out Luke, and Starkiller Force Pulls Luke's Lightsaber to his Free hand to Block The Force Lightning from Sidieous.
Galen, Being Weakened without The Sith Holocron inside his Back.
Almost Loses,
But Then Darth VADER comes Back as Force Ghost to Help Save his Son.
And it Plays out like Mace windu Blocking Force Lightning from Revenge of The Sith.
In The Emperor's Last Moments, Realizing his Position.
Accepts his Fate and Dies.
Leaving Starkiller as The Emperor's Successor.
u gotta drop the vid on the dlc bruh
Today
Subbed for backwards lightsaber
you don't change the lightsaber crystal when u go dark side, you "bleed it" using the dark side, which corrupts the crystal and gives it the red colour...
Did some research after reading this. You're correct that there is a lightsaber color change in the lore through an effect called bleeding, and this would explain Maris' lightsaber change, but it would have to be the fastest bleed in all of Star Wars lore. It would also create a continuity error if bleeding happened at that pace with Starkiller's new blue crystal not turning eventually red. Thank you for the information.
Also, there are still natural red crystals and they can be materially synthesized from other crystals, so bleeding isn't the only red crystals explanation in Star Wars lore.
But that is current lore. Bleeding crystals wasn't the lore present in this games release. I guess we could include it as head canon but time of release that isn't how it works.
Sub count does not match quality gj
Really wanted to appreciate the video but the annoying loud background music killed it. What is it with TH-camrs copying each other's crap standards ? A video essay with a calm voice, a comfortable pace, relevant illustrations, it's all we should require for such format. What a pity :(
@@Milo95 I copied what I prefer to watch. I prefer my video essays with background music, increases the quality and engagement. I think the presence of it in most essays is evidence that most people agree, as the video is incredibly empty without it. A shame you disagree, but I hope you find the content youre looking for.
I subscribed
Darth Vader unfortunately did same thing
Would you wanna do a collaborative video together
I appreciate the offer but I'm committed to working on my own for the time being. Thank you for asking and watching though!
@@KateriYT your welcome
Dude never played Jedi Power Battles or Kotor
Kotor is GOATed
you severly overanalyzed that bit in the opening
The video is 3 hours long.
Of course I overanalyzed it.
You’re crazy bro
@@Skinnydibs Only the second time I've heard that this week since my therapy session
@ what does that mean bro
Time for Disney to remaster this as “The Thread Unleashed” with the main character genderswapped to female 🤣
L take honestly
What take?