Love that you're getting the recognition you deserve! I've enjoyed the couple lights that I've purchased from you - it helps that they have a thorough review to go along with them!
Really interesting, the horrendous green tint was clearly visible throughout the review. As I've said before, the technical analysis is absolutely one of my favourite aspects of your videos, love the Sekonic! 👍👍
The BSS is because it was designed with Blackscout survival in collaboration with Thrunite, I have the version 4 and I love it, I'm looking to buy the version 5
I didn’t do any metallurgy on the bezel obviously. I did note however that it extremely lightweight and magnets didn’t stick to it at all. So probably not aluminum, but you see why I thought it might be.
8:19 ~ Wow.... Thankfully, I don't have this model. _Unfortunately_ I *do* have a couple of Thrunite TN12 Pros. Which is literally the very same light in terms of the flashlight construction (minus a couple of extremely minor cosmetic differences between the two). But yeah, very same side switch too. And, I also believe it's the very same side switch on my Thrunite TT20. I know this issue won't matter to some, but I need my lights to work under stressful conditions. Looks like I'll be testing my TT20 on the job, tonight.
I don't really like my bss V4. It really does get hot fast. It's really not as bright as other 2000 lumen flashlights that my friends have. The charging cable has a longer charging tip than regular micro usb cables, and I can't find a replacement for the cable my friend lost and I had to buy a battery charger and take it out of the flashlight each time. The tint is horrible, like you said in the video. I am looking at the Olight Warrior and other lights to replace it. I asked ThruNite for a refund and I didn't get a response, until it was after the return window, they said. I don't think I will give ThruNite another chance.
I thought there is a flash mode? is there? also when would I need to use the red filter? Thank you for the review, I just got mine. really helped to understand how to use it.
Glad my judgment told me to avoid these lights. The UI is what usually pulls me into a new light. And this has the “ol faithful” Olight easy interface. Love love love the quick access to both moon light and turbo without mode cycling **cough fenix cough**. The gas pedal feature on the Olight variants are a step above. But I can’t wear a magnetic Olight for work as metal shavings and debris end up getting stuck in and around the switch. Thrunite made a home run with the tn12 pro, but these bss models just always seemed very gimmicky to me.
Yeah, fenix make really good quality lights in my opinion, if they just fixed the UI and offered some emitters choice... magnetic charging isn't useful for everybody and in every situation.
I just got thrunite tn12 pro and I think the thrunite t3 is better, the tn12 has a little more throw ( on turbo) but looks like the t3 high mode is better and t3 doesn't seem to get hot as fast.
Yikes ... even I couldn't live with that tint. Great review once again. Also your neighbors must love you 😂 You never get complaints about shining lights down the street like that?
They all know what I do, and honestly I only do it for about 5 minutes per video and at 10pm usually.. so not so late as to be a nuisance or so early as to bother traffic.
Hey man I know this isn’t related but curious about wuben ship times. I ordered 2 of them 5 weeks ago. Havnt heard anything since my order. And I emailed them with no response. Is this normal?
My understanding is the X-0 in particular is selling like hotcakes. Perhaps they had to wait for more from the factory. Let me be tactful when I say, sometimes a company has stellar service but mediocre products. I think Wuben makes amazing lights... just great... (fill in the next blank).
So nothing to be worried about, just may take time. Thanks again. Love the vids you have turned me on to so many amazing lights. Hope 2023 is the best year yet for you and your family.
Was going to pick one of these up to replace my warrior mini 2 (i work in a factory and the metal shacings and dust love getting stuck in the tailcap). I think my search is still gonig to continue.
Take a look at the Zebralight SC600w. I think it would make an excellent replacement. No magnetic tail cap. But you’ll need an external charger like the XTAR VC4 plus.
@@cheule How do you like the UI? I’ve grown to like the Olight UI on the warrior mini 2 and warrior 3, solely for their 2 modes groups which would allow turbo/strobe access from the tail switch. Otherwise I like the freedom of anduril (mostly the ability to choose either ramping or stepped mode and maybe button battery indicator lights)
I have a lot of Thrunites and it's my favorite brand. The user interface is the best with direct access to firefly and turbo while the normal modes have memory. Some other brands use direct access to the lowest and highest mode but these are still memorised. Very stupid! The mode spacing is also the best in my opinion. I have several TN15 and BSS is pretty much the same light with added features. I recently ordered BSS v5 in desert tan color. Hope the tint will not be too greenish. Regarding the temperature and fast drop: there is no light of this size which is able to run continiously at 2000+ lumen without being hot. The mass is simply too small for adequate heat dissipation. And even if it was possible, the limit would be set by a single 18650, which cannot sustain the required power for long time at such a high brightness. Actually the vast majority of turbo-modes are to be considered as burst modes close to the limit of what the LED and battery can perform. Lumen sells, despite the max levels are not very useful, and fast drain the battery. Therefore I don't buy a light because of the max lumen output, and almost never use turbomode. High mode is still very high and can be used for extended period.
They ship with insulating disks inside the light. Did you remove it? Unscrew the cap and remove it between the battery and spring. Also it might be in lockout mode. Long press the button until it turns on in ultra low mode. Then a quick tap to turn off. Then a quick tap to turn on.
There are so many excellent lights in the production and custom flashlight market, that I can't see myself trying to carve out some mindshare from such an already crowded space. But, never say "never!" And thanks for the high praise!
The mechanical switch under the metal button feels different in the TN12 Pro. Maybe they switched parts? I was mostly unable to get my TN12 Pro to stick at all. I got it to stick 1 out of about 20 attempts. which is vastly different from the 100% success rate I had on the BSS.
I got some sst 40 5000k sofrin sc 31 pros that were bad green tint also. Yet the 2 other 5000k I got were nice with no green. Kinda like 5000K ove 6500K but its not worth the chance. The price on the Thrunite is no excuse if you ask me!!!
IF there really was a "shade of green" in YOUR sample perhaps they got a bad batch of SST70 emitters? No other reviwer has complained or even hinted at "green tint" on their BSS' v5 or the prevvious (though I think they might have used a different emitter on the v4....could be wrong). And i don't see it on my copy (Jan 2023)....eve in side-by-side comparison on LOW with my Olights and NITECORE...they look pretty much the same degree of white/tint. Only difference was i brightness. Also, IIrC correctly Olight is using the SST70 emitter in one of their Warrior X lights....a thower. Did it's job as a thower and no green tint was mentioned. Nor seen in the reviewers footage. I mea if there was an obvious e.g. Evergreen green.....or "healthy grass green"....then, obviously there would be a problem when the idea was to get "white" or a "blue-ish white" (never seen "blue"in a CW...heh...). Tints. People use coloured filters on purpose for different uses. To "save night vision" (red), UV, blue to see lquids not visible to t he human eye)....green even--saves night vision and does not washout certin clour tints and detail. ..and as you know some lights ome wit a colour LED...more obvious shades of red, blue or green....now if the "ugly green tint' resembled vomit....uneven shades of green on the hotspot/spill....heh..
I didn't do metallurgy testing.. but I made the assumption based on the fact it didn't stick to a magnet and was so lightweight. Could be a mistake on my part.
Thanks for the review. I was interested in getting this but as soon as you mentioned the channel branding logo thing, it really put me off. Such a shame! I have several thrunite lights and in general they are a good brand otherwise. Any recommendations for a 21700 "tactical" light for less than a 100bucks?
The Bezel is steel, I've no idea how or why would you assume it's aluminum, as if you could feel the weight difference in such a tiny object enough to distinguish.
Tried watching but about halfway in you said it's a green emitter ...green is for hunting right? I don't hunt so lost interest in watching but ya aluminum bezel no good, weird TH-cam branding indian look logo 🤔
Pure BS. Its useless beyond imagination and distorted beam isn't bonus either 😒. There is no application for such things, not in tactical settings, not in self-defence, unless ofcourse some want to go to prison for a long time.
That bezel is too gimmicky. Aluminum and oversized bezel is more likely to rip your jeans or get stuck trying to deploy lol. The logo is meh and if really concern for defense use it just seems over complicated. On the flip side it looks decently built (minus bezel). For/to me there’s lot better options if planning to use as a tac light.
Great honest review. I think they spent too much time and money on the design, interface and branding and kinda forgot about the emitter until the last moment and went for the cheapest and rushed it out for release. This flashlight focused on the FLASH and forgot about the LIGHT! 😂
how a Giveaway can bring any dude to comment.. Humans are crazy, when they hear ''Free stuff'' how many Lumentop Versions you have? xD Found out this is a good Masuring Factor for Flashaholism
Actually not that man, only about 5... wait. I was thinking FW3A and FWAA style lights... I totally forgot about GTs! OK, just counted, 14 including the throwers.
@@cheule yes I know that, he is a former Recon Marine, and very big in the preparedness and paramilitary circles. Like I said that logo is a huge selling point for his people.
It's not just a YT channel, it's a Patriotc state of mind. Proud to support Jack Richland.
Love that you're getting the recognition you deserve!
I've enjoyed the couple lights that I've purchased from you - it helps that they have a thorough review to go along with them!
Glad you like them!
Really interesting, the horrendous green tint was clearly visible throughout the review. As I've said before, the technical analysis is absolutely one of my favourite aspects of your videos, love the Sekonic! 👍👍
I like that you give truthful comments, not just glowing comments in spite of a lights failures.
The BSS is because it was designed with Blackscout survival in collaboration with Thrunite, I have the version 4 and I love it, I'm looking to buy the version 5
The mallninja sized strike bezel made out of aluminium seems to sum the whole light up pretty well.
Any time someone says "Mall Ninja" it makes me laugh, thanks for the laugh!
If it's 7075-T6 it's a great material choice. But I have no idea if it is.
Thx mate.. The UI instruction manual was incomprehensible.. Your instructions were great.
Haha! Thanks
These videos just flow so well. I bet your neighbors need better blinds!! That green tint isn’t my favorite but that crown could kill someone!
Crazy I almost picked this light up didn’t know that about BSS logo/name
thanks for the review, was looking into this light, but it is definitely removed from my list now.
I just watched the thrunite video with the designer of the light, and he specifically stated that the bezel is steel, not aluminium..
I didn’t do any metallurgy on the bezel obviously. I did note however that it extremely lightweight and magnets didn’t stick to it at all. So probably not aluminum, but you see why I thought it might be.
8:19 ~ Wow.... Thankfully, I don't have this model. _Unfortunately_ I *do* have a couple of Thrunite TN12 Pros. Which is literally the very same light in terms of the flashlight construction (minus a couple of extremely minor cosmetic differences between the two). But yeah, very same side switch too. And, I also believe it's the very same side switch on my Thrunite TT20. I know this issue won't matter to some, but I need my lights to work under stressful conditions. Looks like I'll be testing my TT20 on the job, tonight.
This one was epically bad. I find most ThruNite flashlights very good.
@@cheule
Apologies for not updating my original post. Can confirm that the TT20 (fantastic light) does NOT suffer from the same side-switch issue.
Wow I have a handful of thrunite lights and love them. I really hope there not going downhill but the saying is true nothing good last forever.
I love the TN12 Pro. Pretty much this light, but better in all ways.
Another great video. Thanks for considering to do a giveaway. Fantastic
I don't really like my bss V4. It really does get hot fast. It's really not as bright as other 2000 lumen flashlights that my friends have. The charging cable has a longer charging tip than regular micro usb cables, and I can't find a replacement for the cable my friend lost and I had to buy a battery charger and take it out of the flashlight each time. The tint is horrible, like you said in the video. I am looking at the Olight Warrior and other lights to replace it. I asked ThruNite for a refund and I didn't get a response, until it was after the return window, they said. I don't think I will give ThruNite another chance.
I have to say I really like the TN12 Pro. If you give Thrunite another chance, check out that light.
Wow... I’m sure glad I purchase one of those... I’m not a tiny snob with my lights... but that green is ridiculous... thanks for another great review
I'm good with a little green, the LH351D 5000K was my favorite Emitter not long ago but man that thing is way to green!
Not a light I would buy, but really appreciate your honesty!
Legitimately made my mouth drop when this made a LH351D look rosy 🙈
It's really telling isn't it.
I thought there is a flash mode? is there? also when would I need to use the red filter? Thank you for the review, I just got mine. really helped to understand how to use it.
Good to know, on paper this light seemed appealing but thanks for the honest review.
Thanks for the review.
Def. not just your sample with the button getting stuck. I literally just had that happen to me a few hours ago
Thanks for the feedback.
Thanks for the review!
Glad my judgment told me to avoid these lights. The UI is what usually pulls me into a new light. And this has the “ol faithful” Olight easy interface. Love love love the quick access to both moon light and turbo without mode cycling **cough fenix cough**. The gas pedal feature on the Olight variants are a step above. But I can’t wear a magnetic Olight for work as metal shavings and debris end up getting stuck in and around the switch. Thrunite made a home run with the tn12 pro, but these bss models just always seemed very gimmicky to me.
100% agreed
Yeah, fenix make really good quality lights in my opinion, if they just fixed the UI and offered some emitters choice... magnetic charging isn't useful for everybody and in every situation.
Thanks for the helpful reviews!
Im pretty sure that the bezel is made of steel, according to black owl outdoors himself
I suppose it's possible? But a magnet doesn't stick to it--and it's extremely light weight.
This one would be perfect for hiking
Thank you for these fantastic reviews!
I appreciate your detailed, long reviews, thanks.
Great review, good on you for giving an actual honest review.
I try
Didn't recognize it as a youtube channel logo either. 😅
Really indept reviews. Love the honesty.
Thank you !
Greetings from Boston!
Love the reviews, as always. But the GREEN!
Thrunite does really good work. The only disappointment is the case they offer. Just a floppy piece of cloth basically.
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Wow the button issue is an automatic pass let alone an aluminum strike bezel. Thank you for your great content as always.
bezel is steel, this video is misinformation.
Also just checked out that channel and I agree, I would not want that on anything I owned!
With that much green, it should be named "the incredible hulk". Too bad nothing else about it is incredible.
I just got thrunite tn12 pro and I think the thrunite t3 is better, the tn12 has a little more throw ( on turbo) but looks like the t3 high mode is better and t3 doesn't seem to get hot as fast.
Thank you for the always great content!
Yikes ... even I couldn't live with that tint. Great review once again. Also your neighbors must love you 😂 You never get complaints about shining lights down the street like that?
They all know what I do, and honestly I only do it for about 5 minutes per video and at 10pm usually.. so not so late as to be a nuisance or so early as to bother traffic.
Hey man I know this isn’t related but curious about wuben ship times. I ordered 2 of them 5 weeks ago. Havnt heard anything since my order. And I emailed them with no response.
Is this normal?
My understanding is the X-0 in particular is selling like hotcakes. Perhaps they had to wait for more from the factory. Let me be tactful when I say, sometimes a company has stellar service but mediocre products. I think Wuben makes amazing lights... just great... (fill in the next blank).
So nothing to be worried about, just may take time. Thanks again. Love the vids you have turned me on to so many amazing lights. Hope 2023 is the best year yet for you and your family.
Lol wuben must watch your vids an comments. 15 min after my comment posted, I received an update that my order shipped😂 stoked! Just checked my email
I really liked some older Thrunite lights. This isn't my Taste. But thank you for showing it.
Yes, I think the TN12 Pro is a better light from ThruNite. It's my #1 pick for a pocket thrower.
I would 100% carry a Cheule branded flashlight.
Why, thank you! Would you settle for a "Cheule Lights" sticker on the side of your flashlight? I'll pick winners on Jan 8th.
Was going to pick one of these up to replace my warrior mini 2 (i work in a factory and the metal shacings and dust love getting stuck in the tailcap). I think my search is still gonig to continue.
Take a look at the Zebralight SC600w. I think it would make an excellent replacement. No magnetic tail cap. But you’ll need an external charger like the XTAR VC4 plus.
@@cheule How do you like the UI? I’ve grown to like the Olight UI on the warrior mini 2 and warrior 3, solely for their 2 modes groups which would allow turbo/strobe access from the tail switch. Otherwise I like the freedom of anduril (mostly the ability to choose either ramping or stepped mode and maybe button battery indicator lights)
Crazy how you could see the green coming out from that light.
I have a lot of Thrunites and it's my favorite brand. The user interface is the best with direct access to firefly and turbo while the normal modes have memory. Some other brands use direct access to the lowest and highest mode but these are still memorised. Very stupid!
The mode spacing is also the best in my opinion.
I have several TN15 and BSS is pretty much the same light with added features.
I recently ordered BSS v5 in desert tan color. Hope the tint will not be too greenish.
Regarding the temperature and fast drop: there is no light of this size which is able to run continiously at 2000+ lumen without being hot. The mass is simply too small for adequate heat dissipation.
And even if it was possible, the limit would be set by a single 18650, which cannot sustain the required power for long time at such a high brightness.
Actually the vast majority of turbo-modes are to be considered as burst modes close to the limit of what the LED and battery can perform.
Lumen sells, despite the max levels are not very useful, and fast drain the battery.
Therefore I don't buy a light because of the max lumen output, and almost never use turbomode. High mode is still very high and can be used for extended period.
I just received mine yesterday. I want to like it but im having a hard time turning it on. I did let charge overnight. Please help?
They ship with insulating disks inside the light. Did you remove it? Unscrew the cap and remove it between the battery and spring.
Also it might be in lockout mode. Long press the button until it turns on in ultra low mode. Then a quick tap to turn off. Then a quick tap to turn on.
Wow, that emitter takes the top spot from SST-20 5000k lol
Oh definitely, I still have a light with SST-20 5000K, and this out-greens that by a mile.
Thanks for the info.
Question, when will you be making your own flashlight? I'd like to see one! I know it would be good considering you know what you're doing. 👍
There are so many excellent lights in the production and custom flashlight market, that I can't see myself trying to carve out some mindshare from such an already crowded space. But, never say "never!" And thanks for the high praise!
Great review. I have the TN12 Pro, it's a decent light, not perfect though.
the TN12 Pro is my favorite small pocket thrower. I'm curious what your issues are?
Those two Thrunites appear to have exactly the same button on the side telling me it could be a one off bad switch on the new one?
The mechanical switch under the metal button feels different in the TN12 Pro. Maybe they switched parts? I was mostly unable to get my TN12 Pro to stick at all. I got it to stick 1 out of about 20 attempts. which is vastly different from the 100% success rate I had on the BSS.
I saw you liked the double lockout it has... I don’t know if you knew or not... but that tn12 pro has it too👍
Whaaaaaaat?! How did I not know this?!
A light like this always makes me feel I will just end up stabbing myself guaranteed. I love the slim profile though
I like how Thrunite lights look, but not a huge fan after having one. I did like the W1 though.
I got some sst 40 5000k sofrin sc 31 pros that were bad green tint also. Yet the 2 other 5000k I got were nice with no green. Kinda like 5000K ove 6500K but its not worth the chance. The price on the Thrunite is no excuse if you ask me!!!
That thing is way green. Thanks for the review.
Thanks for watching!
my god how did they release that with that tint
Fond of thrunite but this particular model has too many shortcomings to make it worthy of a purchase.
IF there really was a "shade of green" in YOUR sample perhaps they got a bad batch of SST70 emitters? No other reviwer has complained or even hinted at "green tint" on their BSS' v5 or the prevvious (though I think they might have used a different emitter on the v4....could be wrong). And i don't see it on my copy (Jan 2023)....eve in side-by-side comparison on LOW with my Olights and NITECORE...they look pretty much the same degree of white/tint. Only difference was i brightness.
Also, IIrC correctly Olight is using the SST70 emitter in one of their Warrior X lights....a thower. Did it's job as a thower and no green tint was mentioned. Nor seen in the reviewers footage.
I mea if there was an obvious e.g. Evergreen green.....or "healthy grass green"....then, obviously there would be a problem when the idea was to get "white" or a "blue-ish white" (never seen "blue"in a CW...heh...).
Tints. People use coloured filters on purpose for different uses. To "save night vision" (red), UV, blue to see lquids not visible to t he human eye)....green even--saves night vision and does not washout certin clour tints and detail. ..and as you know some lights ome wit a colour LED...more obvious shades of red, blue or green....now if the "ugly green tint' resembled vomit....uneven shades of green on the hotspot/spill....heh..
What is the jetbeam red emitter model name? I'm trying to find one
I created it by modifying the herbal ret-01 with a deep red luminous set-20 emitter.
@@cheule Is that hard to change? What's the process of it?
Nice review!
I like tactical, even though it’ll prob never be practical for me
I'll release a review of the Brinyte PT18 Pro Oathkeeper, which I simply LOVED. Stay tuned.
BRING ON THE SWAG!!!😉👍 LOL... PART-2
It’s a steel bezel atleast older models had steel hope they didn’t go to aluminum
I didn't do metallurgy testing.. but I made the assumption based on the fact it didn't stick to a magnet and was so lightweight. Could be a mistake on my part.
Another banger
Thanks for the review. I was interested in getting this but as soon as you mentioned the channel branding logo thing, it really put me off. Such a shame! I have several thrunite lights and in general they are a good brand otherwise. Any recommendations for a 21700 "tactical" light for less than a 100bucks?
*IF* the strike bezel is 7075-T6 it is darn near as strong as steel and much lighter, so that would be a great choice. You know.... *IF*
Good points
Another great review!
Oof, yeah hard pass on this one. Thrunite should have named it the St. Patrick's Day edition instead!
Nice review.
Thanks!
Excellent and fair review.
Nice light...
Thrunite is not prefect but good enough for me to recommend it to friends
I love ThruNite products. I recommend the TN12 Pro and the Catapult Pro all day.
The Bezel is steel, I've no idea how or why would you assume it's aluminum, as if you could feel the weight difference in such a tiny object enough to distinguish.
Your reviews and comparisons really helps a lot when looking for a new flashlight
Talks quit outside 😁
Nice review. I agree about the branding thing. Not my cup of tea.
Great review, definitely a light I will be staying away from
Oh my god, that's one green tint lmao.
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In comparison it just looks like a green emitter😂
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this light gives me some mall ninja vibes
BBS is one of the most black pilled and fear monger channel out there
Well it is for the preppers with their bunkers in Montana.
I steered clear of the politics of it all, but I tend to agree.
Tried watching but about halfway in you said it's a green emitter ...green is for hunting right? I don't hunt so lost interest in watching but ya aluminum bezel no good, weird TH-cam branding indian look logo 🤔
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Oof that’s too green for me man
Fo sho!
Always wondered about the aggressive bezel
Pure BS. Its useless beyond imagination and distorted beam isn't bonus either 😒.
There is no application for such things, not in tactical settings, not in self-defence, unless ofcourse some want to go to prison for a long time.
That bezel is too gimmicky. Aluminum and oversized bezel is more likely to rip your jeans or get stuck trying to deploy lol. The logo is meh and if really concern for defense use it just seems over complicated. On the flip side it looks decently built (minus bezel). For/to me there’s lot better options if planning to use as a tac light.
BSS labeling is BS! I agree with you. I always love the outdoor demos at end.
Thanks for watching!
Great honest review. I think they spent too much time and money on the design, interface and branding and kinda forgot about the emitter until the last moment and went for the cheapest and rushed it out for release. This flashlight focused on the FLASH and forgot about the LIGHT! 😂
100%
how a Giveaway can bring any dude to comment.. Humans are crazy, when they hear ''Free stuff''
how many Lumentop Versions you have? xD Found out this is a good Masuring Factor for Flashaholism
Actually not that man, only about 5... wait. I was thinking FW3A and FWAA style lights... I totally forgot about GTs! OK, just counted, 14 including the throwers.
@@cheule 😍😜
Holy hell dude, you're whining about a USMC Recon Marine's logo? For literally hundreds of thousands of Marine veterans that is a *selling point*
It’s the logo of a TH-cam channel called Black Scout Survival.
@@cheule yes I know that, he is a former Recon Marine, and very big in the preparedness and paramilitary circles. Like I said that logo is a huge selling point for his people.
Holy crap, that tint shift on that BSS, ThruNite just can’t seem to get away from that. Most of their lights have horrible tint shift.
No argument there!
Aluminum bezel is a no go
You could lose your manhood carrying that in your pocket! 🤣
mine is not green at all it is white on all settings
Honest question, are you R/G colorblind? Or have you compared it to any Nicha emitters?