while its not actually to the contents of this video, i have to say; thank you. i found your work around 6 months ago by complete chance on a search for youtube videos about the wolf of wall street, and have been thoroughly impressed since. be true to yourself (whatever it is): you are with ease one of the most thoughtful and attentive people on this website and i will continue to observe what you do on and off it. superb
I think one of the things discussion of the Male Gazes misses is that the value of it isn't necessarily in ticking off a check box of traits that make it up. Rather it is, as you point out, the value the term has in emphasising that the dominant gaze assumes a masculine viewer. With this in mind I think a singular Female Gaze makes the same mistake, assuming the possibility of a singular, coherent and dominant gaze. Instead, I always think, we should be chasing an opening up to accept gazes (which obviously will involve an active pursuit of minority voices because we already have dozens of actually distinct male gazes pretending to be 'The Male Gaze' in the dominant eye, because it's easier to pretend to be normative when you're closer to it). With that said, I've been toying with the idea that the normative male gaze does imply a normative female gaze of a sort, given the binary logics that get overlaid over sex and gender. Specifically, I've been thinking that possibly the (sexual) Male Gaze implies or constructs an anxious female gaze (exemplified in kidnapping panics, the image of masculinity and sexuality as threat, and typified in the Berger line that a 'woman looks at herself being looked at') these both overshadowing and attempting to deny the possibility of sexual female gazes and anxious male gazes. It's a theory I've not credentialised very well, it mostly being based on analysis of media, conversations with friends, and general knowledge, but I think it has legs at least vis a vis expanding my awareness of my own gaze technologies (watching for how I respond to or feel anxious about where I am looking or how I am looked at for example). Anyway, it's a bit of a ramble but I thought your video cued it up well. Especially as I like your move away from assuming a 'Female Gaze' that must naturally counterpose the male one (while we could probably build something like that. I don't think it's a particularly healthy strategy of resistance with how unitary notions of femininity tend to cut out black, queer, disabled and working class women as well as girls).
I feel confused I don’t know for the movie thing i don’t think I have ever heard anyone call a movie anything other then movie and this goes for movies made by everyone to my knowledge I don’t know why am confused about this video it just does I never even heard of the male gaze is this a thing people regularly deal with and am just blind personally I just it as all genders race’s religions and so on have to deal with a bunch of stuff that’s unfair and harms them but eh what do I know I guess am just some random on the internet
I would say I also don’t understand the male gays as well.
while its not actually to the contents of this video, i have to say; thank you. i found your work around 6 months ago by complete chance on a search for youtube videos about the wolf of wall street, and have been thoroughly impressed since. be true to yourself (whatever it is): you are with ease one of the most thoughtful and attentive people on this website and i will continue to observe what you do on and off it. superb
I know about the male gaze. I'm watching one right now!
man spends 11 minutes realising he doesn't understand the male gaze either and comes to the conclusion that the patriarchy exists
I personally think of it as what women think the male perspective is like
excited for your isttvg vid after watching this rant, it was my favorite movie this year, owen is just like me fr
I think one of the things discussion of the Male Gazes misses is that the value of it isn't necessarily in ticking off a check box of traits that make it up. Rather it is, as you point out, the value the term has in emphasising that the dominant gaze assumes a masculine viewer. With this in mind I think a singular Female Gaze makes the same mistake, assuming the possibility of a singular, coherent and dominant gaze. Instead, I always think, we should be chasing an opening up to accept gazes (which obviously will involve an active pursuit of minority voices because we already have dozens of actually distinct male gazes pretending to be 'The Male Gaze' in the dominant eye, because it's easier to pretend to be normative when you're closer to it).
With that said, I've been toying with the idea that the normative male gaze does imply a normative female gaze of a sort, given the binary logics that get overlaid over sex and gender. Specifically, I've been thinking that possibly the (sexual) Male Gaze implies or constructs an anxious female gaze (exemplified in kidnapping panics, the image of masculinity and sexuality as threat, and typified in the Berger line that a 'woman looks at herself being looked at') these both overshadowing and attempting to deny the possibility of sexual female gazes and anxious male gazes. It's a theory I've not credentialised very well, it mostly being based on analysis of media, conversations with friends, and general knowledge, but I think it has legs at least vis a vis expanding my awareness of my own gaze technologies (watching for how I respond to or feel anxious about where I am looking or how I am looked at for example).
Anyway, it's a bit of a ramble but I thought your video cued it up well. Especially as I like your move away from assuming a 'Female Gaze' that must naturally counterpose the male one (while we could probably build something like that. I don't think it's a particularly healthy strategy of resistance with how unitary notions of femininity tend to cut out black, queer, disabled and working class women as well as girls).
I feel confused I don’t know for the movie thing i don’t think I have ever heard anyone call a movie anything other then movie and this goes for movies made by everyone to my knowledge I don’t know why am confused about this video it just does I never even heard of the male gaze is this a thing people regularly deal with and am just blind personally I just it as all genders race’s religions and so on have to deal with a bunch of stuff that’s unfair and harms them but eh what do I know I guess am just some random on the internet
The male gaze is weird
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Why does this guy sound like Company Man