Are YOU Doing it Right? | Always Build Soil
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- When it comes to growing food there are a lot of opinions on what to grow. You may be a fan of fruit trees. Maybe it's greens or root crops or even just a bunch of corn. One things they all have in common....soil. Without it, you just don't have much!
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I swear I can't get enough of you two and the dreams you are spinning into reality. Great show! #Keepupthegreatwork
Ah, thank you for those kind words of encouragement. This is what keeps us going and sharing with everyone!
I second that!
Build soil, build soil. This former farmer and gardener loves your farm and plan!
Right there with you on that one Michael! If only everyone had the same mindset. Even folks growing nothing more than ornamentals can do with more soil!!
Thank you so much Michael, glad you enjoy it!
I love your channel!
I moved to the Philippines almost 3 years ago, but I'm finding myself facing some of the same challenges you're having in Arazona.
Here even with about 2 meters of annual rainfall, having and keeping enough organic material is a real challenge.
I'm trying to reclaim a small city lot that had previously been used as an illegal garbage dump by the neighborhood. But that's a story for another day. Today I want to talk about compost and organic matter in the tropics.
Here it's like adding ice cream to the ground, as it seems to break down nearly as quickly.
In the beginning, I was breaking lumps of charcoal with a hammer in an attempt to recreate something approaching Terra Prita soil. My efforts got a real boost once I discovered carbonized rice hulls.
I still have a long way to go, but I'm looking forward to the next few years. You mentioned luffa, I love how they bloom at the same time every night. Here it usually happens about 5:30 pm.
@@Lolo_Pas wow, what a much different place from what we see around us here, but to hear you're facing the same challenges just boggles the mind!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm have you considered using a chisel plow and key Line design principals on the flood plane to allow for quicker water infiltration?.
Isn't it amazing how there's no worms in the dirt in Arizona but somehow God has designed it so they make their way into the soil and then thrive!? It's really wild! Every new tropical fruit tree or plant I've grown seems to accompany with it a new bug I've never seen before.
Amen to that Jonny. It's amazing to see soil coming to life where there was once a dry wasteland. If only more folks would do the same, imagine what a different world this would be!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Isaiah 35:1 "The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose"
I love what you're doing to build soil. Again, showing what some of the priorities are to farm in the desert.
Hey Richard! Yes, it's all about building soil for us. Especially now with nothing but hard pan dirt around us, but it really will never end!
Love your goat houses within shelters within yard. How long do you sort of shut down during the hot weather? What are you doing during this period apart from deep watering trees and minding the animals?
The goat house have worked out great so far! Summer shut down for us is doing our outside projects from 4am-9am, then we are working inside. This summer it will be working on inside videos for our other channel, video editing, fermenting etc.
Your farm is SO clean and well put together.
Yeah, that's a bit of both of us, but Lori would simply not have it any other way. We catch a bit of grief from the hardcore permaculture fans, but you know what they say. Happy wife, happy life!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm, LOL! Well, your wife knows what she's talking about. I'd listen to her. Ha!
@@taylorvanbuskirk8040 amen to that!
@@taylorvanbuskirk8040 I second that! They work so hard and keep everything looking beautiful. I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder but I think my sense of beauty is in line with Lori.
Lovely channel folks. Do you have any issues with mule deer? I have some that love to chomp on my trees which is an issue for sure.
We haven't seen any, at least not yet. I've hunted mule deer in the White Tank mountains and we're adjacent to the largest wash in Wittmann that leads into that mountain, so I think there's a chance we could see them. I imagine that's something that would be a big challenge! Do you fence them out?
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm I probably will end up fencing just the few trees I have. I think that makes the most sense.
@@affordabledesertliving3487 with fencing costs the way they are these days, I would have to second that!
So…you planted the daikon radishes as a fertilizer crop? What happens to the radishes themselves? Do they rot? Did you have other veggies growing in the bed before the radishes?
Great question Kathy. The radishes in the soil (under the woodchips) are consumed by worms and other bugs/soil life as they break down (rot). From that you'll find the new soil the following season is far superior to what it was when you started.
Maybe you can put the tarp over the woodchips after watering them (and some more woodchips over the tarp, so that the sun doesn't warm it up as much) so you trap the moisture in for a bit longer.
Hmm, that's a solid suggestion and definitely worth trying!!
What,kind of green manure are you using to grow …. Also have you tried sunn hemp to grow to increase nitrogen in your soil
Green manure is not our primary source of fertility, that's actually composted animal manures. For our garden beds we typically use daikon once or twice in the beginning to kick start the beds. After that we use the aged or composted manure to increase fertility.
I just found the channel and am really enjoying it. Question - Have you ever thought of adding water harvesting swales and berms like what they do in the desert areas in India? Over there they use them to hold water into the soil and recharge the water aquifer. Like how that forest is growing along the side of the Central Arizona Cannel because the berm of the cannel causes the water to pool alongside the cannel and be absorbed into the soil when it rains.
Great question/suggestion HB. We do have some, but not enough. We have swales designed into our passive rain catchment from our house and outbuilding that helps put the rainwater into the ground in our vineyard and berry areas. Most of the earthworks for that will be on the back half of the property in Zone 3-4 (permaculture zoning). We're only 2 years into this project and the focus has been getting cash flow in place for the business to fund the rest of the project. Hence the tree and animal focus in Zone 1-2 so far.
I can’t agree more about building soil, beautiful zucchini’s and thank you for sharing.
You've shared pics of your place, so I know you feel the same with this one. Now to get all of our neighbors doing the same!
2:14 That grape vine!! I need to plant some grapes to provide shade to a western facing back porch.
Cool, huh? It's amazing how well they do for us here and I HIGHLY recommend giving them a try!
would plant passionfruit
We tried passionfruit at the old property and it died. It gets down into the 20's here and it was just way to cold for it. Maybe we can try it again down the road.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm ahh true wont live there
Maybe a good idea to be looking towards China and how they are greening the desert over there....Trees seemed to be an important part of their plan...
Great suggestion John and I've seen a few of those projects. The key for us will be moving to the back of the property, outside of the income producing areas of the farm, and testing some of those concepts out.
How do you guys manage your PH for the soil? Is there anything in particular you use?
Great question and we don't manage it specifically. Initial soil samples put us at 8.4 (very high, but not surprising), so we focus on crops (and roos stocks) that handle that well. We also focus on building organic matter which should eventually help balance that out...in theory at least!
An older lady told me she put a fake owl on her garden fence and fixed all squirrel and bird problems
We've tried that in the past as well and it works for a short period of time and then they're right back at it. The birds that is, the squirrels rampage either way. Now, that's on larger acreage, it may work for smaller areas like a backyard where there is more visibility to it.
Do you guys source your own woodchips or buy them? Not sure what sort of forestry exists around your area?
Great question. These all come from a couple of local arborists that we've found through Chip Drop. Most of the woodchips are from the work they do trimming trees in the city.
I always wonder... what da hell happened to your roosters tail feathers lol?
LOL! Yeah, they look pretty ridiculous right now. That happened when we had them confined to a much smaller pen before we mixed them with the turkeys. In there they would constantly get pecked at and wound up losing those feathers over time.
Im a fam of this channel. I hope we have more plains in our property here in the philippines. Its hard to plant like that cos its already filled with coconuts and shrubs. 🤣
I'm glad you're enjoying the content. I can't imagine having to work around coconut trees though!
where are you in the Philippines? I'm north of Cebu City.
where are you in the Philippines? I'm north of Cebu City.
I think the soil biology is geared more towards trees, shrubs and vines. I'm having trouble growing what's considered upland crops that are more suitable for temperature climates. I'm considering experimenting with some shade cloth.
its usually better for the microbes colonies you Need to cultivate if you add the green to the brown compost pile rather than just chop & drop & cover BTW & tall 3x3x3 ft piles compost faster
Solid notes here Paul. The goal with the daikon in these beds is to feed the worms over the Summer. Last year we pulled those woodchips back and the beds were teaming with them!
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Huw does chop & drop Along with his Black compost full of worms as he makes lots of green, you don't Yet have that luxury unless you can harvest a grass & bushes on the as yet unused land at the back..
perhaps you can scrape a 6" shallow 100x100ft wide pool & fill it up with rain & sow cheap green seed as a test
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Do you know of a place to order the bioflora that ships? Can't seem to find a place, and your Amazon link says that it's unavailable.
That's a challenge that seems to be happening a lot as of late. They become available and then they're not. We have only seem it locally in Phoenix at Summer Winds nursery. I pulled up the BioFlora website and their own link to purchase it online is to Amazon where it's unavailable, so I'm really not sure on this one.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Ahh dang, thanks anyway though!
Have you noticed do the Diakon radishes stink as they decompose ?
Hey Steve, great question. We keep these covered all Summer and by the time we pull the woodchips back in the Fall they are completely decomposed and turned into worm castings. I imagine they smell pretty ripe while they're breaking down, but that heavy layer of mulch keeps it in check for us.
You have a space you want to turn into pasture + chickens, so add "cow pies" (4 days old, full of fly larva) or fresh but "alive" pig shit and turn the chickens loose all day. They will spread all the manure around getting to their food and next you need to plant grass seeds, preferably legumes, 3-4 types. The roots build soil fertility. Do this over & over, until you get a thick pasture for the chickens, geese, ducks. No need to buy chicken feed. You could get a milk cow for various dairy in a few years when you have a big enough pasture. Maybe you have it now, if you turn your orchard into pasture. A guard goose (2) is better than a dog, they live 40 years.
Solid suggestion here Don and we're working towards more animal pressure to do just that. We've had success with broiler chickens on the chicken pasture and it's coming along well (alfalfa we've found is our friend there). We've kicked around the idea of a cow and/or steers for their manure as well, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. I agree with you on the guard goose. We have 2 on order now along with ducks that should be here later this week.
I'm at 4500' and zone 8a my neighbor who grows many trees has mentioned that it's very difficult to grow figs in this area of Cochise county. Do you have any thoughts on this because I would love to grow figs but I don't want to waste money and stress on it if it will turn me into Sisyphus.
Hey there Cam. You should be ok to grow most fig varieties in zone 8a. The Chicago Hardy fig for example is rated down to zone 5! A few others that are solid options for cold hardiness would be Brown Turkey, Celeste and Violette De Bordeaux.
Nice harvest. Puppy. Kids and their boxes. Puppy. Good to see the turkeys get shared with other farms. Puppy, puppy, puppy.
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I am no expert but watching your videos I am always impressed how quickly you have both managed to establish this plot into a productive farm. I live in Wales and think what you have achieved would be impressive for somewhere with more water and more of a starting point for soil. Well done!
I am looking at moving abroad within the next few years, I am looking at developing countries that are dry and hot, I will definitely be using these videos as a guide for a future permaculture project. Thanks for sharing.
Hey there Yousha. Thank you for the kind words and encouragement. We sometimes get overwhelmed with all the projects we still want to get done, but the main focus for these first 2 years was getting the cash flow going to fund the rest of the project. Unless you have a large bankroll (or someone else funding it) it's a necessary step.
Where are you considering as to relocation?
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm You're welcome. Thank you for sharing your journey. I think part of the enjoyment is in the journey itself. Good to hear that you have enough cash flow to fund the project now to make things a little easier.
Yes, I do need to save more before moving first. I am looking into Southern Oman as a stepping stone first, and then moving to somewhere more developing in the Middle East region or North Africa. I like the idea of doing a desert greening project with the help of some locals. I would like to change things up from living here in the UK, and having more of an impact than I can here. Plus my money could go further, depending on the location of course.
Keep up the good work!
@@YoushaAhmad that is a high calling Yousha. What the world needs right now is hope and that starts with being able to bring healthy food and thriving ecosystems that create life to people across the world. I wish you success!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Thank you for the kind words. I completely agree.
When I start my journey, I hope to share it on TH-cam too. I will have to keep you posted.
@@YoushaAhmad please do. We would love to see that!!
Wow!!! Looks great 👍 you guys are fantastic, thank you for all the great information. 👍
Thank you so much Mark!
Love and embrace soil building. But when we can't have animals, do we need to add purchased manure to our compost?
Hey Joni. We've become BIG believers in the importance of animals in natural systems. If you're not able to keep any kind of livestock (even rabbits and quail will work beautifully) then I would definitely add manure to your compost. Before we had the manure production here on this farm we used BioFlora crumbles for most of our fertilizing. The base of that fertilizer is chicken manure.
the cutting of the plants at 10:30, Why bury it with compost vs feeding that to your animals?
Also, I love your behind the scenes shots at the end of the videos
Great question. We did the same thing as a test in our Fall beds the first season we had them installed and the worm activity we saw after pulling the woodchips back was simply incredible. The challenge we faced here with those beds was the initial soil that was available to us (at least at a cost we were able to cover). It was a mix of 30% each native soil, sand and compost. Problem is it's completely devoid of life. That's the primary reason for keeping so much material in these beds as we continue to build the soil life for future plantings. However, you're correct in that the chickens and goats would enjoy these. We do take most of the green we cut elsewhere to them to devour!
I don't think i'm heard you say this in a video, or at least it needs reinforcing. But why do you put beds to sleep during the summer? Everyoen else I see does it durrign the winter. To build the most carbon in the soil, and water holding, dont you need plants pulling Co2 out of the Air as much as possible? Isn't any non growing time a loss? Cow Peas should tolerate the heat.
Great question and that's the challenge we face here in Arizona. We have 2 long growing seasons, but nearly everything dies in our Summer heat. Cowpeas are one of the few things that survive, but we have to plant our Fall/Winter beds before they're done. Essentially everything we do here is based on our Summer die back as opposed to most of the country having a Winter die back.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm I heard once, so please check this, that nitrogen fixers like peas provide the most nitrogen to the soil before they bolt. Once they are in production mode, they either draw from the soil or minimize how much they contribute, because most goes to the seed. So I'm not sure it matters if it can't finish, just cut it back when something else is ready to plant or germinate. and use the greens as you would.
I've also heard this in response to corn, though i very much can't find the source anymore, I thought it was Gabe Brown. But we don't consider corn a nitrogen fixer, because when it puts on ears, it takes so much more from the soil. But cutting it right before then leaves it there.
There was also something there about peas and corn having different symbiotic relationships. one with bacteria and one with fungus, so you are best building both types in the ground.
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@@babybalrog Yeah, I've heard varying things with regards to the amount of nitrogen in a legume as well. However, I have seen much larger nodules on older plants vs younger ones, so with that experience I'm inclined to side with the folks suggesting to leave them in the ground as long as you can. I have not researched corn in that regard.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Sorry It took a few days to get back to you. I haven't been able to find anything on the timeline. It makes since that the older and larger plants fix more nitrogen. The nodules are providing a home and resources (sugar etc) for the bacteria that do that actual fixing, and a larger plant would be able to pump more down into its roots. This is all powered by sunlight, the more light you capture the more of everything you get in the soil. So even if you can't get as much with a full plant. Running the "pump" for an extra month, over more space, etc still improves the soil, building a bigger "bank" underground. it reminds me a bit of someone i saw who refuses to woodchip the paths on her garden instead just growing clover, because that N will eventually spread into the surrounding beds.
On the topic of corn, I found a good source on eos.com, (Earth Observing System) that is a really good write up of nitrogen fixing. They note three categories of bacteria that do fixation: Symbiotic, Associative, and Free Living. Symbiotic bacteria live in the root nodules of legumes, and feed on the sugar and carbon. Common types are Rhizobium and Frankia. The later is known to live on "actinorhizal plants like Alder, bayberry, sweetfern, Avens, etc., enabling them to survive even in infertile soils." Symbiotic bacteria are some of the highest N-fixers. This group cap can fix up to 460 kg/ha/yr
Associative Nitrogen Fixers, dont live on or in the plants but around them. Still feeding on the nutrients the plants pump into the soil. They typically associate with cereals like "wheat, rice, corn sugarcane, barley, sorghum setaria, pennisetum, and more" This group of bacteria includes the senera "Azospirillum, Glucenobacter, acetobacter, herbaspirillum, azoarcus." This group cap can fix up to 170 kg/ha/yr
Free-living N-fixers, include Anabaena Azolla, cyanobacteria, and can fix up to 80 kg/ha/yr.
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@@babybalrog wow, that's a lot of info. Thanks for doing the research on this for us!!
Everything looks great guys! What do you do for pest control in your garden areas?
Thanks Kylan! Besides the hardware cloth under the beds to keep from anything digging up under, and the bird netting we haven't done much. Our biggest pest right now is ground squirrels. We have tried several traps and they have not worked, so we are going to have to do something since they are digging everywhere!
Love your videos, I am inspired! Right now we are building a house so I have limited time, but I have a small garden going. We have curved bill thrashers, they uproot small plants that aren't protected. The quail like to dig little holes around the trees. 🌱🏜️
Kudos to you guys for building your own house. That is impressive! Those curved bill threshers are just another in a long line of pests, but we try to take it in stride and work around them wherever we can. Same for those pesky quail!
Dear sir: yeah! Having loved your idea of the irrigation ring for deep watering, I know that it is the path the excellent micro-climates! My established orange trees enjoy a micro-climate with abundant worms. So, using your ring, I know I can create more micro-climates like that. Likely I will end up with 10 to 15 such rings. And since I am lazy and like dual purpose things: I plan to grow companion plants around trees. The choices of companion will be based on available sun. When trees are small, I can grow sun loving companions, progressing to more shady-tolerant perennials as time goes on. I like companion plants, since they don't require a separate watering schedule. It would almost be like a food forest. LOL.
I can appreciate the food forest concept. You may want to be cautious what you choose for your companion planting. Particularly with younger trees as they can have a hard time competing for nutrients with other plants. It's one of many reasons we don't use them with our fruiting trees. During Summer they're doing everything they can to survive the dry heat and tend to struggle a bit.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm ah. I see. I am glad I spoke with you. I will proceed with caution and read the plants and read the soil to the best of my ability, making (hopefully) the right adjustments. Great information : ) thank you.
That fly over at the start was awesome. Has been amazing watching the farm grow
Thank you! Hopefully we will get an updated intro video soon lol!
I need to buy composter. Love your bloopers at the end. LOL!
The ready made composters really do a good job of netting consistent compost over a short period of time, but we have found that composting right in place works as well as long as you have the time to dedicate to it. Oh and glad you enjoy the bloopers. We lost 80% of viewers by the time those roll around, so we figure those are fun for anyone who sticks around!
Your channel is such a joy to watch! Thank you!
Thank you for the kind words and encouragement Yusuke. I'm glad you're enjoying the content!
nice.!
Glad you enjoyed this one!
Why don't you use a drip system.?
Hey Kevin. I'm assuming you're talking about the garden beds? We have used them in the past, but this drip tape is much easier to work with and is less expensive. It's also VERY easy to repair.
I have so much to say. First, have you ever considered keeping some bee boxes? With all of the trees and now the vegetables it would be cool to do that. Also, if you let one basil plant flower it will attract a ton of bees if there are any near. Second, do you plan on any male goats? Is goat cheese in the future?
You guys are just awesome! I love seeing your videos pop up!
Hey Alan! We haven't considered bees very stongly, at least not yet. We have decent bee activity without keeping them here, but you're right it would definitely increase fruit yields all around.
We will probably have a buck or two at some point in time. We're trying to take this one slow and make sure it's something we want to do from an income standpoint on the farm. If it's profitable between selling the registered goats and whatever we can derive from the milk it will definitely make sense to breed them here. For now, our breeder is going to let us use her bucks for breeding each season, so we'll see how that goes!
Regarding income, can you share how are you guys are generating income out of the farm in rough estimation in percentage.
Like 10% out of chicken meat, 20% out of eggs, 50% fruits etc
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@@MkhSoussa so I pulled our YTD P&L for the farm and here are rough estimates so far for 2022; Beef - 44%, Pork - 32%, TH-cam/Affiliate - 13%, Poultry/Eggs - 5%. We broker the beef for folks (cattle our friend raises for us), but the rest is from the farm. As you can see, the key is diversification and we have many other enterprises that we're working on to ensure profitability. Great question!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm thank you for sharing! I really appreciate it
Excellent video, Luffa is good fruit like eatable Gourd
Glad you enjoyed this one Abid. We had heard the gourds were edible, especially when they're young, so we'll have to try that this Summer!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm My Luffa made it through the winter and came back this spring really strong with roots already in place. I don't know if it will make it out where you are since you get much colder than us. It really is a nice plant though. Very aggressive grower.
@@TheFatTheist now that would be nice! You guys are a bit warmer, but not by too much. The last couple of Winters have been pretty mild, so we may have a chance!
I live in Gold Canyon, AZ. I have SO many rocks in my soil. Raised flower beds are the best answer, but I'd really like to plant some things in my soil, but the rocks are like a buzz kill! I think, "Ughhh! I don't want to deal with those." Do you always have tons of rocks in your soil?
Hey Taylor. We actually don't find many rocks in the soil on this property. After tilling the old pig area before planting the sorghum we may have accumulated a 5 gallon bucket or so. It sounds like you're dealing with a much bigger issue out your way. If you're going the annual veggie route, the beds are really the way to go. As for trees, that would only be an issue with your planting hole. Unless you have solid rock, the roots will easily find their way between the rocks.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm, not only do we have rocks, we have "caliche." That's as hard as cement, and it's usually about 2-3 feet below the top soil. We're in the foothills of the Superstition Mountains. The views are great, but the soil....not so good. I'm impressed with your farm.
@@taylorvanbuskirk8040 yeah, we have that same caliche layer about 2-3 feet down as well. If you're going to do trees, they'll be fine above that as long as you're encouraging outward root growth. Over time they will penetrate that layer as the roots continue to grow larger.
I have the same problem Taylor does but here in El Mirage. I think we are in an old river bed or flood plain. Ive tried using an auger to dig holes but Ive nearly broken my wrists when it invariably hits large river rocks. Ive gone to a style of using raised beds even for trees. Mixing the native soil and my soil I add so I dont have to dig at all into the native ground. Im hoping that by the time the roots of the trees hit the bottom of the bed they will be larger and stronger and can pierce not only the caliche but work around the rock.
@@ericbowers1620 solid plan Eric and that makes sense with the river rock being there due to a wash or river. We had a fairly decent size wash on the old property and it was full or river rock.
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Glad you enjoyed this one Valerie!
Thanks Valerie!!
What is that little saw you are using to cut everything down so fast?
I should have mentioned that. It's a reciprocating saw (Sawzall) with a 9" pruning blade on it. Works wonders for cutting through the radish heads.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Milwaukee Sawzalls are such useful tools. The new cordless ones are amazing, especially the 18V, but I think there's an affordable m12 version, too.
@@foyjamez yes they are! Funny, I (Duane) am the purchasing manager for an industrial supply company in Phoenix. We sell mainly the M18 line, but for small jobs the M12 is the way to go. Unfortunately for me, I chose Yellow instead of Red for my cordless tools!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm I am a building inspector by trade with a lot of construction experience and Milwaukee came and did a demo at a track and the building inspectors in the supervisors got Milwaukee hats I did not know how rare they were
@@foyjamez they sure do a good job of promoting their line, huh?
I’m kinda curious to see what the soil nearby is like. How far your work is spreading.
For example if you dig down with the auger in the “dirt” between your earliest trees, how far before you begin to find soil , roots, or moisture
That's a great question and we haven't checked that yet. Most of the areas have seen rain once, maybe twice, so I can't imagine we'll find much yet. If we get a few good monsoon storms this Summer that should kick start that.
We're hoping our ducks arrive this week and eventually we'll be working their "pond water" into those spaces which should help drive that.
Another nice video. Was it easy to manipulate that cattle panel into the trellis shape?
Glad you enjoyed this one Eric. It wasn't too bad with the 2 of us. Once you get it bent over you can wedge one side into the ground while you get a t-post placed on the opposite side. Then head back to the other side and do the same. Or place the t-posts first and then bend it into place. Either way, it's really a 2 person job to get it straight!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Sounds good. Thats what I was wondering if it had to have two people. My teenager is a lazy bum so getting his help might be a chore unto itself lol
@@ericbowers1620 You are cracking me up!
@@ericbowers1620 ah yes, we know just how that goes with the lazy teenagers!