My answer to your question at 6:40 is that he is singing in his own style, following his own interpretation of the song. He is a classically trained artist with master's degree who also plays the role of music director of the "Forestella." When Koreans try to pronounce foreign languages, particularly European languages, they need to use their mouth and tongue carefully and intentionally to make a proper sound, articulating each sound that do not exist in the Korean language, so that their mouth movement may not look natural.
I'm Korean and I don't know Spanish, French or Italian at all, but I feel my emotions reacting to the songs Forestella sing in those languages. They are beautiful because they always challenge and I love such beauty.
This video was super interesting! My first language is spanish and Mingyu's pronunciation is surprinsingly good. He kind of does sound like a foreigner, but not because he is bad, but because the way he makes the sounds are too 'clear' and usually people here don't speak/sing that well haha. However, it's actually very pleasant to listen to him because you can understand a 100% what he's singing, which I think it's one of the most important aspects if you're going to sing in another language. Another thing I like is that he's using a very neutral spanish. I don't know if it was intentional or not, but it's nice because in spanish-speaking countries there is a huge variety of accents and sometimes it's hard to even understand each other. So it's very helpful that he keeps it neutral because that way anyone can enjoy his spanish with no problem. I really like his voice and the way he sings in general, but that's just a personal preference haha.
he makes every sound clear because of his classical training in singing. During a live streaming he said he had to consciously restrain himself during pop songs to not sing with a classical mindset, because he was taught to pronounce every vowel and consonant fully.
What an interesting observation about the neutral Spanish! MinGyu and well, Forestella are just incredible, adventurous, and musically intelligent and plain old-fashioned hard-working. I really love his voices…because he actually can surprise you.❤
Yesss thanks for introducing forestella to sam 😍😭😍😭 we’ve been trying to get sam to recognise them.. and again, thank you for reacting to them again! I really love the discussion here.. and yeah, he is normally a classical leggiero tenor, not a pop person that’s why his style is very unique 😁❤️😁
Your discussions were so interesting and made me think abt lots of things. I think Cho is usually between pop and theatrical expression(a little different from 'musical' acting bcz he was originally trained as an 'opera' singer?) Sometimes I prefer a more relaxed way like Sam said, but I think Cho has his unique style and one thing I appreciate is he tries various ways of singing, tries to change when singing a new type of song. So I'm glad to wait for his next moves.
OMG I really enjoyed it. I'm very exciting that two different vocal coaches analyzed and discussed Cho's song! As you noticed, I feel he always focus delivering emotions of song like good communicator. Pls more react to Forestella Thank you sooo much :)
His words seem very clear across all eight languages, only two of which I understand and even at that my French is much weaker than my English. I'm mightily impressed with his multilinguality, especially his French, Italian, and German. Thanks for this presentation of both Marc and Sam's analyses, you two feed off each other's outlooks really well. Very interesting points made all 'round, particularly the changes in emphasis of theater and pop and opera styles.
That was great! I think that special head nod that Sam does when he shares a criticism is so endearing...its like he's saying, yes, well, this needs to be said so we're just gonna say it and everyone will be just fine. Thanks for inviting him. Your discussion of performance and communication of self was great to listen to.
Wow I did not expect this to be a long analytic discussion but it was very informative! Thank you Marc and Sam for the reaction! And Min Gyu definitely has a gift for learning languages.
Great video, gotta love when two of the best voice teachers on yt come together to analyse and breakdown this talented artist... so interesting from the beginning to the end. He sounded very clear (maybe some vowels in spanisn sounded a tiny bit weird but I understood everything) I am already listening more of him. Thanks guys!
Mingyu was not confident abt his unique voice in classical music.. classical musical related people said that he has too unique tenor voice. However, Forestella changed his lifeeeeeeeeeee cross-over musics fit him so well
Cross over music does seem to fit him VERY well. Though Im not sure I agree with those that said he has too unique of a tenor voice. Not that I don't think it is unique but that I think that implies he couldn't have been successful. I think he could have been if he kept with it but obviously this seems to suit him even better. I love when people make their own path to success even when people try to convince them otherwise. Soo glad he found this path to success!
I think it is important to be authentic and share the feeling of the song but paying attention to how u sing matters. Luckily his french was done really nicely which as a french made me happy ofc cause he tried to make the right R etc. But yeah prononciation is important for example whenever I hear sos d'un terrien en détresse by Dimash, no matter how beautifully and amazingly he sing, his prononciation just put me off. Perhaps not so much to non french speaker but it's hard to not care when it's more gibberish than the actual language..so being able to understand what the singer say is as important than just sounding good ... well anyway I think this artist is really amazing both in the way he share the emotions as well as his diction/prononciation. (◍•ᴗ•◍)
Forestella tiene a los mejores cantantes y Mingyu es la muestra de eso, Mingyu es tenor educado en música clásica pero su voz puede cantar cualquier genero musical, me sorprendió lo bien que lo hizo cantando una canción pop como Kool es genial!! Forestella es el mejor grupo Crossover del mundo! Los Reyes de las armonías perfectas!! Forestella Forever ❤❤❤❤ saludos desde México 🇲🇽🥰
Always is a pleasure to hear both of you analyzing someone. I don't know if should keep insisting, but I would like to hear your thoughts about Ha Hyun Woo.
I can only really comment on the german part and i might be wrong there. The first thing, that came to mind, was phonetic training. It did not sound like he learned the language, but like he learned the sounds. His "e"s all sound the same and that sounds wrong to a native speaker. As german is close to a phonetic language, the differences between "e"s for example are not massive, but still there. That aside, his presentation was "sloppy" as most german or english Pop-Songs seem to be, so basically on point ;)
I think what I didn't like is this really long conversation about pronunciation and body language. That has nothing to do with "vocal analysis" beyond the fact that he obviously doesn't speak most of these languages and I'm pretty sure neither of you would have done a better job at singing in multiple languages you don't speak. :)
My answer to your question at 6:40 is that he is singing in his own style, following his own interpretation of the song. He is a classically trained artist with master's degree who also plays the role of music director of the "Forestella." When Koreans try to pronounce foreign languages, particularly European languages, they need to use their mouth and tongue carefully and intentionally to make a proper sound, articulating each sound that do not exist in the Korean language, so that their mouth movement may not look natural.
내가 세상에서 가장 좋아하고, 경이롭고, 아름다운, 포레스텔라!! 네명의 맴버중 리더 밍 🥹 늘 자랑스러워요❤
Im german and his pronauntiation is great. ❤😊
He studied 8 languages during his busy schedule. I want to applaud him for his efforts. I love this video. Thank you for your reaction.😀
자막이 없어서 정확한 내용은 알수 없지만 이렇게 많은 분들이 우리 조민규 님의 노래를 듣고 리액션 해주시는거 보니 포레스텔라의 팬으로서 정말 자랑스럽습니다 😭
I'm Korean and I don't know Spanish, French or Italian at all, but I feel my emotions reacting to the songs Forestella sing in those languages. They are beautiful because they always challenge and I love such beauty.
This video was super interesting! My first language is spanish and Mingyu's pronunciation is surprinsingly good. He kind of does sound like a foreigner, but not because he is bad, but because the way he makes the sounds are too 'clear' and usually people here don't speak/sing that well haha. However, it's actually very pleasant to listen to him because you can understand a 100% what he's singing, which I think it's one of the most important aspects if you're going to sing in another language.
Another thing I like is that he's using a very neutral spanish. I don't know if it was intentional or not, but it's nice because in spanish-speaking countries there is a huge variety of accents and sometimes it's hard to even understand each other. So it's very helpful that he keeps it neutral because that way anyone can enjoy his spanish with no problem.
I really like his voice and the way he sings in general, but that's just a personal preference haha.
he makes every sound clear because of his classical training in singing. During a live streaming he said he had to consciously restrain himself during pop songs to not sing with a classical mindset, because he was taught to pronounce every vowel and consonant fully.
What an interesting observation about the neutral Spanish! MinGyu and well, Forestella are just incredible, adventurous, and musically intelligent and plain old-fashioned hard-working. I really love his voices…because he actually can surprise you.❤
Yesss thanks for introducing forestella to sam 😍😭😍😭 we’ve been trying to get sam to recognise them.. and again, thank you for reacting to them again! I really love the discussion here.. and yeah, he is normally a classical leggiero tenor, not a pop person that’s why his style is very unique 😁❤️😁
Your discussions were so interesting and made me think abt lots of things. I think Cho is usually between pop and theatrical expression(a little different from 'musical' acting bcz he was originally trained as an 'opera' singer?) Sometimes I prefer a more relaxed way like Sam said, but I think Cho has his unique style and one thing I appreciate is he tries various ways of singing, tries to change when singing a new type of song. So I'm glad to wait for his next moves.
OMG I really enjoyed it. I'm very exciting that two different vocal coaches analyzed and discussed Cho's song! As you noticed, I feel he always focus delivering emotions of song like good communicator. Pls more react to Forestella Thank you sooo much :)
His words seem very clear across all eight languages, only two of which I understand and even at that my French is much weaker than my English. I'm mightily impressed with his multilinguality, especially his French, Italian, and German. Thanks for this presentation of both Marc and Sam's analyses, you two feed off each other's outlooks really well. Very interesting points made all 'round, particularly the changes in emphasis of theater and pop and opera styles.
16:35 he is a musical theatre person...! he majored classcial music. he is a tenor
This explains a lot and Im not suprised. He sounds like it.
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not musical theatre. Musical theatre in English implies musicals as a genre. Mingyu is a classically trained opera singer, not a musical actor.
That was great! I think that special head nod that Sam does when he shares a criticism is so endearing...its like he's saying, yes, well, this needs to be said so we're just gonna say it and everyone will be just fine. Thanks for inviting him. Your discussion of performance and communication of self was great to listen to.
Thank you, i really enjoyed it! I’m looking forward to your analysis on other Forestella songs!
Wow I did not expect this to be a long analytic discussion but it was very informative! Thank you Marc and Sam for the reaction! And Min Gyu definitely has a gift for learning languages.
Forestella es mucho más que un simple cuaterto, son geniales, le guste a quién le guste.
Great video, gotta love when two of the best voice teachers on yt come together to analyse and breakdown this talented artist... so interesting from the beginning to the end. He sounded very clear (maybe some vowels in spanisn sounded a tiny bit weird but I understood everything) I am already listening more of him. Thanks guys!
Mingyu was not confident abt his unique voice in classical music.. classical musical related people said that he has too unique tenor voice. However, Forestella changed his lifeeeeeeeeeee cross-over musics fit him so well
Cross over music does seem to fit him VERY well. Though Im not sure I agree with those that said he has too unique of a tenor voice. Not that I don't think it is unique but that I think that implies he couldn't have been successful. I think he could have been if he kept with it but obviously this seems to suit him even better. I love when people make their own path to success even when people try to convince them otherwise. Soo glad he found this path to success!
@@DrMarcReynolds he was told that because he is leggero, he wouldn't get lead roles. Not that his voice was too unique. :)
I think it is important to be authentic and share the feeling of the song but paying attention to how u sing matters. Luckily his french was done really nicely which as a french made me happy ofc cause he tried to make the right R etc. But yeah prononciation is important for example whenever I hear sos d'un terrien en détresse by Dimash, no matter how beautifully and amazingly he sing, his prononciation just put me off. Perhaps not so much to non french speaker but it's hard to not care when it's more gibberish than the actual language..so being able to understand what the singer say is as important than just sounding good ... well anyway I think this artist is really amazing both in the way he share the emotions as well as his diction/prononciation. (◍•ᴗ•◍)
Be interested to know what you think of FORESTELLA’s rendition of JE SUIS MALADE ..based on Lara Fabian’s cover of it.
Forestella tiene a los mejores cantantes y Mingyu es la muestra de eso, Mingyu es tenor educado en música clásica pero su voz puede cantar cualquier genero musical, me sorprendió lo bien que lo hizo cantando una canción pop como Kool es genial!! Forestella es el mejor grupo Crossover del mundo! Los Reyes de las armonías perfectas!! Forestella Forever ❤❤❤❤ saludos desde México 🇲🇽🥰
Crossover singer = confused vocal coaches 🤣 This break down was so fun to watch!
Seriously, they don't know where he lands. Mingyu can sing whatever style you toss at him.
thank you for the reaction
감사합니다
Great discussion, guys. Always great to see Sam Johnson.
Interesting conversation...thank you
Thank you ❤️ 감사합니다 ^^
omg i love this videoo
I dont know m cho but i recognize sam! Yay!
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민규형이 이걸봐야하는데!!!
I fell in love from the start i saw u marc ❤❤❤
Always is a pleasure to hear both of you analyzing someone. I don't know if should keep insisting, but I would like to hear your thoughts about Ha Hyun Woo.
Yes. Keep insisting! I’ll get to it
Yes, please!
아 이분 자막좀... 능력자님 안계신가여 ㅠㅠ
어우 누가 한글로 번역을 해주면좋겠네요
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I can only really comment on the german part and i might be wrong there. The first thing, that came to mind, was phonetic training. It did not sound like he learned the language, but like he learned the sounds. His "e"s all sound the same and that sounds wrong to a native speaker. As german is close to a phonetic language, the differences between "e"s for example are not massive, but still there. That aside, his presentation was "sloppy" as most german or english Pop-Songs seem to be, so basically on point ;)
I think what I didn't like is this really long conversation about pronunciation and body language. That has nothing to do with "vocal analysis" beyond the fact that he obviously doesn't speak most of these languages and I'm pretty sure neither of you would have done a better job at singing in multiple languages you don't speak. :)
발음이 어쩌고 저쩌고 주접떨지마라!
Den K 님은 아이고~ 어찌 저런 말을 하시나~ 어디가 아픈 분인고~
다른 분은 디스보다 칭찬에 가깝다는분도 계십니다
어째꺼나 이렇게 리액션해주시는 분에 대한 예의는 아닌것 같습니다
이렇게 쓰시면 리얙션을더이상 안해주실것같네요
매너를 지켜주세요.
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못 알아 듣거나, 대충 알아는 들어도 맥락을 이해 못하거나 하는 듯 한데요.
발음으로 지적한 부분이 없는데...^^