And as for reality arguments . Goku can destroy realities so I don't think reality wrapping is gonna help. And Goku can fight even after death as an immortal .
Y’know people talk about Goku having plot armor, and while that is true, Mario is essentially gaming’s version of Bugs Bunny. Dude can pull anything out of his butt when the plot demands it
I generally place Mario and Goku at Multi-Universal to Multiversal, MFTL+, but this is a cool perspective Edit: I don't think you should give Mario his abilities from Paper Mario, that's a separate continuity
The only proof paper Mario is a seperate continuity is paper jam and even then it can technically be debunked since paper Mario came from a book and the original paper Mario had a funny quote where someone said they’d make a book on Mario’s adventure called “ paper Mario” and that was what the original game was called
Nahh, the amount of nonsense in these scaling videos is actually crazy regarding Mario's "abilities" that are more or less depending on interpretation than actual footage. Mario has never come closer to strength than lifting something like King Bob Omb which is probably more or less a few tons at best, is easily outrun by several characters AND enemies in his games, only has abilities that can be factored in in his own world or level, doesn't have lightspeed reaction whatsoever (if you wanna take that Galaxy 2 power where he can apparently travel faster than light, after that logic someone like Han Solo can also dodge someone like The Flash. Seriously, people ACTUALLY take that as a power feat when we have literally never seen it in action), he can't control time unless it's under really specific circumstances and doesn't really have the best durability either. He can get killed by a few Koopa shells for all we know. Or, to put it simple, this fight is anything but close. Putting Mario anywhere higher than Saiyan Saga of all things is a masive overstatement of his abilities, and anyone who thinks Mario is somehow on par with time manipulating deities is either a 12 year old or has several degrees in interpretation and meatriding.
@@A_literal_supernova No evidence of him being even remotely FTL when his games involve him not running any faster than 40 mph unless he's running on a boost pad or other speed enhancing platforms. As I mentioned before, almost all his abilities are theoretical and only in a certain circumstance, and people tend to CTRL C+V it all over his ability board.
Paper Mario and Mario are not separate characters. They're portrayed that way due to Paper Jam, but that game takes place in a storybook about past events
Mario has a *very narrow* chance if he has the Power Star on account of invincibility, but that power up only lasts for 30 seconds, meaning if Goku keeps his distance and runs out the timer he has this in the bag, either closing in for the kill or spamming ki attacks.
You're confusing the Power Stars with the Super Star, the super star is nothing more than a simple powerup while the power stars literally made the universe collapse in Galaxy and you can also argue that the power stars are multiversal if you count the paintings in super mario 64 (which were created by the power of the stars) as separate universes
Apologies that towards the end the editing quality wasn't as good, my editing software was not cooperating with me lmao
Hey nuzlite can u do another super man video people like z_bunker like to downplay him
Hey you can make Goku hyperversal range.
And I think he is in immuserable speed.
And you know high ki also negects fate base stuff .
And as for reality arguments .
Goku can destroy realities so I don't think reality wrapping is gonna help.
And Goku can fight even after death as an immortal .
Finally a video that doesn't just say Mario is a weakling who gets destroyed by Goku. I knew Mario was powerful like goku
Not even close
Y’know people talk about Goku having plot armor, and while that is true, Mario is essentially gaming’s version of Bugs Bunny. Dude can pull anything out of his butt when the plot demands it
Mario is looking kinda sexy with that mustache ngl
@@shadowthehedgehog4508 real
Usually goku gets a raw deal with matchups like this so you did an awesome job here bro!
I couldn’t agree more
Okara pls don’t listen to drip sauce debunk on goku vs super Man U did okay he just want goku to win because he like goku
@@edehyoungthug5887I can debunk both Goku and Superman ass from outerversal . And can still make Goku win.
Yo I’m early.
Anyway, Mario probably wins extreme diff (before watching the whole thing).
Yep Mario is Outerversal While Goku is Multiversal
@@KingKen87424Goku is MASSIVELY ABOVE multiversal
@@yeikelamores6085 he is just low multi-multiversal. nowhere above that.
@@finobians Tell me you don't know anything about Goku or DB
@@yeikelamores6085 you tell me WHY he scales above multiversal.
I generally place Mario and Goku at Multi-Universal to Multiversal, MFTL+, but this is a cool perspective
Edit: I don't think you should give Mario his abilities from Paper Mario, that's a separate continuity
The only proof paper Mario is a seperate continuity is paper jam and even then it can technically be debunked since paper Mario came from a book and the original paper Mario had a funny quote where someone said they’d make a book on Mario’s adventure called “ paper Mario” and that was what the original game was called
If if you do that Mario would still Win .
I appreciate how fair the analysis was here.
W video as always
Nice vid bro
I did NOT know Mario could do all that 😭😭
Mario vs Goku is tonal whiplash in the form of a vs debate
Great video and nice scaling for Mario
Nahh, the amount of nonsense in these scaling videos is actually crazy regarding Mario's "abilities" that are more or less depending on interpretation than actual footage.
Mario has never come closer to strength than lifting something like King Bob Omb which is probably more or less a few tons at best, is easily outrun by several characters AND enemies in his games, only has abilities that can be factored in in his own world or level, doesn't have lightspeed reaction whatsoever (if you wanna take that Galaxy 2 power where he can apparently travel faster than light, after that logic someone like Han Solo can also dodge someone like The Flash. Seriously, people ACTUALLY take that as a power feat when we have literally never seen it in action), he can't control time unless it's under really specific circumstances and doesn't really have the best durability either. He can get killed by a few Koopa shells for all we know.
Or, to put it simple, this fight is anything but close. Putting Mario anywhere higher than Saiyan Saga of all things is a masive overstatement of his abilities, and anyone who thinks Mario is somehow on par with time manipulating deities is either a 12 year old or has several degrees in interpretation and meatriding.
How does this debunk anything? And can you actually give us a reason as to why Mario ain’t FTL instead of saying “By that logic🤓”
@@A_literal_supernova No evidence of him being even remotely FTL when his games involve him not running any faster than 40 mph unless he's running on a boost pad or other speed enhancing platforms. As I mentioned before, almost all his abilities are theoretical and only in a certain circumstance, and people tend to CTRL C+V it all over his ability board.
Mario vs Kratos would make more since
Now lets try to see Neptune vs sonic for the rival version I think the scaling for Neptune could be interesting to research
Nice scaling for both Goku and Mario.
Paper Mario and Mario are not separate characters. They're portrayed that way due to Paper Jam, but that game takes place in a storybook about past events
This is so lowball for Goku
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Mario has a *very narrow* chance if he has the Power Star on account of invincibility, but that power up only lasts for 30 seconds, meaning if Goku keeps his distance and runs out the timer he has this in the bag, either closing in for the kill or spamming ki attacks.
The problem is that Mario is much faster, being able to run while time stops, being able to move while the concept of time doesn't exist, etc
You're confusing the Power Stars with the Super Star, the super star is nothing more than a simple powerup while the power stars literally made the universe collapse in Galaxy and you can also argue that the power stars are multiversal if you count the paintings in super mario 64 (which were created by the power of the stars) as separate universes
@@TylerOfChaosYThmm afterlife doesn't have concept of time.
Zeno erased concept of space and time and Goku was able to move normally.
@@abhijeetgolder7535 The Void erased the concept of both time and space and Mario was able to move, so what's your point
@TylerOfChaosYT zeno erased everything in the multiverse including space and time and Goku was able to move so what's the point .
Mario slap 🗿
YOU KNOW WHAT?! MARIO CAN DEFEAT EVERY ASSHOLES WHICH COMES ON HIS WAY!!!! 'Except the bowser team'
Mario has a lot more win Cons than goku so I'm going with Mario
yea mario takes it but goku is no joke
Mario no-low diffs
Mario negs Goku