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For hypixel you said skyblock is pay to win sure you could spend alot of money and kind of pay to win it but certain people can make so much more and there is a huge playerbase so i guess if you spend thousands i guess you could "win" it but that;s also just for coins there are other stuff too you need requirements to use gear
Hey there! Great work on this video, and thanks for the shoutout. You weren't far off with your average calculation for MassiveCraft, your prediction was 1170.54, and our monthly average right now is 1193.97, which comes to about a monthly profit of 100 USD. Keep up the good work!
@@ArceusX300 Pay2Win Server Models often discourage player growth and die within a few years. Massive craft is one of the Oldest servers in Minecraft history and is still here today. While its player base may not be "Massive" its importance and influence is. Also youtubers do visit the server, we've had youtubers like skeppy visit the server.
@@ArceusX300cosmic still up? The faction server is down but idk about Prisons and I wonder how much cosmicpvp Faction was making with like 5000+ avg player base and super p2w. Remember spending a lot of money on the server.
@@ulol609 Minecadia is the new flagship Factions server. They are even more custom and well developed than Cosmic. And they have a $500 rank lots of people buy and people spend 10x as much because of Biden printing money
@@ulol609 Minecadia had access to CosmicPvP's leaked plugins and then made them 10x more quality and unique, then made everything more expensive, then paid big TH-camrs and encouraged gambling because their only rank is $500 and people buy monthly crates for a chance to win the $500 rank. Utter genius monetization setup. They likely make more than PurplePrison
As a polish guy I'm pretty sure they're doing so good cuz barely anyone pays for actual Minecraft and spend money once or twice on a server then never log back into it
Hey thats me @ 7:26 !! As the owner of Vanilla Europa, you did portray this somewhat accurately, but it's worth noting that the majority of players get ranks and special items from voting and events, but yes you can also get those in the store.
i actually cant believe you are making x2 my salary monthly from minecraft, im actually pissed off lmao this should not be a thing, like what the fuck.
@@dmitrijsmironovs7513it should not be a thing for a BUSINESS to make twice your monthly salary? Are you stupid? The server also has staff they have to pay. Bro’s braindead
@@dmitrijsmironovs7513 I assume a lot of that money goes into paying for server hosting and to pay the people working there, the actual profit is probably much less
@@jovinky6913 just sbe devs because they charge for their mod :) the rest do it for free with very little donations and for cheat devs... maybe in the tens overall but not 100s of thousands
@@thegu5Vape has over a million people subscribed to Vape Lite ($10 a month) plus they have tons of people buying Vape V4 ($35). Cheat developers, especially closet cheats, make millions from their customers.
To be honest i believe most of the servers fake their recent donations to some degree, i mean its a good business strategy to get people to see that someone is spending money so they would be more likely to spend
Hey, head manager of Fire Vanilla here, Interesting to see how revenue can take a spike and a fall so regularly. Last summer we were doing $900 a week and now it’s more like that a month. Hopefully new season will bring it back to life lol
It must have been fun trying to read the Polish text while copying it into that notepad From what I know, CraftMC became this popular by a sheer coincidence, as at one point, a couple of once massive polish servers either disappeared, like CraftApple, because the owner just suddenly went dark or mcsurvi pl that was once the largest server in Poland, or YTbers that were admining their servers - such as JasMC w/ JDabrowski or vertez-pl w/ Vertez (I believe that's what they were called) have stopped making minecraft content and/or their channels started dying out, resulting in their massive servers too going under. As such, a gap in the market was created that CraftMC very neatly fitted and consequently gathered a large number of players. Those players, mind you, are usually 9-15 year oldsd with cracked launchers that are the most likely to pay for in-game items. In Poland, majority of players use apps like Crystal Launcher or Shiginima Launcher (or at least used to when I played minecraft daily) and CraftMC being a cracked server makes it even more accessible.
yeah its hard to pay for enough serverspace to host 200k concurrent and Simon has done a pretty good job vetting his staff to not be greedy little grubsters I would say
Yea i would be suprised if they make like 300 profit almost, Like Hypixel is a full blown company with people working full time waiting on their paycheck. And that server costs to keep everything running must be MASSIVE
Also there are limitations to it being pay to win only for sky block it’s not player vs player you need requirements for items and there’s a limit how many cookies you can sell per day
@@sephiroth668 honestly calling it p2w is a little misleading since while yes you can pay for a slight advantage in the early game but once you are passed a certain point in the game spending money to get some Skyblock coins make almost no sense This can be seen by a popular sb TH-camrs series where he spent 15k over a month and a half (you can only spend a maximum of 500 USD on the hypixel store)only to make it to mid game and not even in the top 10k networth leaderboard
MisterEpic is so badass for goin on a server,tells the money that the server makes,tells everyone that they spend almost 100 USD for a useless rank and then doesn't care if he is gonna get muted from the moderators is so crazy. Awesome video MisterEpic
A more accurate way to calculate the total would be to find the revenue per average player count for each server and then average those. By doing the calculations the way you're currently doing, some of the smaller servers have almost no impact on the resulting value.
@@TBH_Inc There are two problems: 1) smaller servers might have a different distribution than larger servers 2) there are less larger servers, and larger servers have a higher impact on the average, leading to much higher variability So smaller servers wouldn't be "outliers", they'd be a different distribution. Meanwhile, the larger servers are more of a risk of being an "outlier" with large impact. The choice between which of these problems is more important is not obvious imo.
@@PatFussy96 no its not. obviously there will be people who dont spend any money and there will be people who spend 1000 dollars. thats how average works
I am Polish and from my experience in Poland, not many people buy Minecraft. Instead, they tend to spend their money on servers. This is because almost all Polish servers are cracked (referred to as "non-premium" by Polish people). Even those who do buy Minecraft tend to play on these servers because of language. In these "cracked" (non-premium) servers, there is surely a group of people who play with paid Minecraft accounts, and they are more likely to buy items from shops. The major part of the Polish Minecraft community consists of 7-11-year-old kids. Paysafecards are popular in Poland (as far as I know they are also popular in Romania, Greece and the Czech Republic). Paysafecards are prepaid cards that can be bought in almost every shop (primarily in every Żabka - a very popular, widespread Polish shop, that is literally on every street corner) and then used to buy stuff from the internet anonymously and in cash. Kids don't need to steal their parents' credit card, but they can use their own. They tend not to understand the value of money and end up spending it. Usually, they buy things that are priced low, such as $1 to $2, up to maybe $5 for VIPs. Higher sums are too much in one go, and when they buy in smaller sums, they don't realize the accumulating costs over time. Besides, almost every server is P2W (pay-to-win) or has a lot of microtransactions, which might seem acceptable to kids, and they do not see anything wrong with it. Being anonymous means they can buy stuff online without their parents' knowledge, and this lack of parental control leads to kids spending a ridiculous amount of money.
You have probably not converted the currenecies (1$ is ~4.17 PLN) for craftmc item prices, therefore the correct amounts are ~5791$ monthly and ~78134$ yearly. Other than that the player retention is rather weak with people buying commodities and later leaving within a few weeks of playtime. 11:44
As a polish user I think I know the reason behind such a high amount of money being get by servers. Main reason polish servers are getting so much money is because most of the cracked server's player base are kids in age 9-13, and they most of the time buy things with no awareness. (or with parent's money which is sad)
I used to be staff on Manacube. They claim to offer items that aren't pay to win but obviously are, its like the whole server is gaslighting one another to believe that tremendous lie. Also the pressure to buy items on there is insane, reinforcing a culture of alienating the people who have not paid meanwhile there is an almost cultish like surrounding of the owner. Scary stuff especially when children are the prime targets of this manipulation.
As a pole, I think the reason so many people buy stuff on cracked servers is because the people in our country find a minecraft account useless, since almost every single polish server is cracked. So basically a polish cracked server works like a normal server. We have no reasons to buy minecraft but spending on servers is pretty popular.
6:07 I used to play on MineBerry after I saw it in a banner ad in tlauncher (forgive me for this sin) back in late 2019/20(?) It was extremely p2w, especially in the survival server. The Immortal rank literally allows /op and there are many who sells their stacked shulkers of stacked 32k gear and items. The economy is inflated as hell, and I quitted after spending like 2 or 3 months grinding naturally with my little brother only for it to reset.
I'm from Poland but my explanations can be more general. Not all players in cracked servers are people who haven't bought minecraft. Minecraft is often played with friends. In poorer countries, many people cannot afford to buy Minecraft. So people with money wanting to play with friends play on cracked servers. They spend money maybe bc they want to show and ofc its p2w but still they want to be able to play with friends who didn't buy minecraft.
I'm Polish, used to play on that server and have a few theories why it makes that much money. No inside data but like 7 years of playing on that or simmilar Polish servers.
I think it's thanks to you ( and some personal research on some p2w servers) that I have decided to play on non p2w or servers that don't reinforce the p2w so hard. along with Sal1C, Horizon, and many others. Good stuff man.
Guys don't forget: Running a server costs a ton. Big channels have staff: Staff doesn't only cost the wages but also associated employer outlays. This adds up. Yeah they make money, but way less then similar buisnesses both in and outside gaming. It sounds like so much, but it really isn't.
As a data scientist, I very much appreciate your transparency about your methodology and the giant grain of salt you have us take with your final projection. I think you're missing something big, though: you're assuming that the purchases you're recording are all legitimate, when some could be bot-generated, designed to make products appear more popular than they are, or *some may be outright money laundering* Would you be willing to make your dataset publicly available? I'm really curious what other insights we can glean from it.
It's important to note that this is revenue and not profit. Revenue is not the full picture as there are lots of costs that drain away at that revenue. Edit: I know mr epic mentioned this eventually but that was at the end of the video, far too late imo
True, but as someone who used to be on the inside of loverfellas server team, there aren't many costs at all. Most of his team is not paid at all, except for devs and admins. Add those and the server costs and sure its not free, but it doesn't cost nearly as much as you would expect.
@@LukeHuber Huh, thanks for the info. I wonder how much the hypixel server costs (in hardware, electricity, etc.), and how much devs are paid. Do you think total costs are a small fraction (
@@Benw8888 if I had to guess Hypixel costs a shitload. From my understanding all admins get paid, as well as developers who if I had to guess make a shit load (around 6 figures yearly) add onto the immense amount of servers they have running and I bet it runs in the millions to maintain. Who knows exactly how much though.
That's not really the point, the point is to show how much money people waste on useless things. Some idiot wasted a whole high end pc for useless virtual items on a trash server
Hosting Minecraft servers is pretty cheap and scales linear The only servers that actually cost money to run are the ones where all admins and Devs are paid like Hypixel, but even then they still do plenty of profit
Honestly this is sad, baffling and kinda impressive at the same time, you could also exploit tebex itself (which is most minecraft server webstores use for purchaces) to calculate the money,,,
As a spanish speaking person and a casual universo player, I can confidently say that the problem here is that in many countries like Mexico, Peru, Ecuador, etc. a Minecraft account is worth too much, so they get a cracked account and buy those ranks, that are probably cheaper. Neptuno may be the rank thats comparable in price to a mc account but, if you play long enough, its like spending MVP+ on hypixel when you play a lot of pvp / skyblock, it becomes worth it.
5:16 It might be a little strange, but it is possible to buy unbans using netherite ingots or whatever currency that server uses. It's hard to explain but because of minecraft's eula, it technically is allowed to buy a rank on a server by being payed with netherite ingots, due to the all the items being obtained in survival minecraft. I'll bet that is what is happening with the unbans there.
Keep in mind that this is just straight revenue, not gross profit. It obviously costs money per month to run the Minecraft servers, whether you host it yourself on dedicated servers or buy a subscription service. I am not entirely sure if Hypixel staff get paid at all or if it is strictly volunteer, but that also plays into it a lot if they do. The actual profits after expenses will be significantly lower depending on how high the expenses are.
Hypixel has so many players that don' t play skyblock, it is a very loose estimate to assume that every player is spending upwards of $50 per month in the server alone. With that said, this video is still very educational on minecraft server profits and I hope the good content continues.
It's not like only 40k people ever log on its just 40k average players. I wouldn't be suprised if hypixel has upwards of a million unique account logins monthly.
@@doofus2157 1Mil seems overexagerative, 500k peek, but I get the point, I believe that it is unlikely that a person will log on 5/30 days to be a whale in skyblock or premium memberships, and many might be alt accounts for some, and so alt accounts probably dont have memberships or be hard whaling in skyblock. This is all my opinion and I dont have much facts to back it up, take it with a grain of salt.
the fact that the most popular rank in the past couple years is like 30 a month by itself its honestly not too surprising that the venn diagram of those players and skyblock whales would be pretty close to a circle
Wondering, if some servers fake their playercounts, wouldn't some fake their sales so other people see them and go ''Oh, this guy bought it, I should too''?
But the server community would know fast; if a player is said to have made a purchase they will tell everyone they did not. And people would notice if a nobody is outspending hardcore community regulars
Very interesting experiment! Would be interesting to see this tracked over a longer period, especially the summer months when more kids aren’t in school. I ran a server for 3 years between 2019 and 2022 during the second boom of Minecraft and averaged 10-20 players, so very small, yet still averaged £250 a month! Crazy to see how much things have changed
Also surprised purple prison doesn’t make more than that as I’m pretty sure that’s very close to what they spend on buying advertising spots each month 😂
Honestly i wouldn't say that vanilla europa is a semi p2w server. I play there a lot (in fact, i was there when you recorded the video) and you can get all the rewards from special crate without paying just fine due to the presence of a vote party that gives you a special key most of the time and the ability to buy special crates items with diamonds. Other than that i think that this is a well done video. Good job!
out of curiosity what is stopping these servers from just pretending that people are buying ranks and displaying it on the shop in order to encourage others to buy stuff? same way that servers spoof players to pretend people are playing on them. that might explain why some servers have people spending an absurd amount of money per month. good video overall ofc
good point but i think you could probably verify this eventually by making sure the name that comes up is a real minecraft account and ensuring its not recurrently coming up
Why would you buy a rank on a server just because you saw someone else do it? That is plain stupid and doesn't make any sense. Spoofing does make sense because if I see a server has 1k players I'll rather play on it than a server with 50 people.
Hypixel also has a full staff of admins, for which hypixel is their actual job. Hypixels high amount of money HAS to be high to support the salaries of the admin team, and to pay for the servers. The servers, which, are supporting over 50 THOUSAND players around the clock with relatively low lag.
Back when I owned a server, servers would pay 5k-10k for a month of advertising(like server list can’t think of the names now) and to hire TH-camrs like vik and prestonplays, costed us 20k to get them to make a video on the server(13k for vik and 7k for Preston) generally you’d push your server population up to 100+ and hope to make your return in 3 months.
Another Polish guy to speak from experience: Polish servers typically had a model of locking the really fun stuff behind ranks. For example, there was (maybe still is, not sure) a gamemode called "Fighters vs Monsters", where you'd have different classes with abilities to play. All well and good, but 90% of the actually fun classes were locked behind ranks or paywalls that would unlock it for you. Buying a perma rank would also cost so much, it would probably be more worth it to spend enough cash for months of it. Ontop of that, Polish servers make it *very easy* to buy stuff from them. For instance I remember some servers even accepting paying by sending a text message and having it bill through your phone company. Which also tricked kids into spending alot of cash. A friend of mine had an unlimited data plan on his phone when we were in primary school (like 8 or so years ago?), so he thought he could cheat the system and blew a couple thousands of his parents' money on stuff on the server. Though I'm not sure how the situation looks nowadays, since I haven't played on any Polish servers in actual years.
I will say that Hypixel Skyblock making so much makes sense to me, and with how much they innovate in their Skyblock game mode makes me feel like it's reasonable. After all, it's Minecraft's biggest MMORPG. Btw I have a biased towards Hypixel Skyblock, I'm not a max skills/gear/pets/dungeon lvl guy, but I do happen to be a person who joined post original End update, around August - November 2019. And I loved the Dante vs Technoblade event in 2021. Made that year of highs actually have a highlight lol
the fact that you can unban yourself with money at some servers in minecraft is absolutely disgusting and corrupt. Its kinda the same thing as buying yourself out of a prison irl.
As a person who runs a non pay to win server I can in fact confirm your final statement there to be true. To get our server back up and running (after we suffered a fatal data loss just before I took the server over) cost me personally a total of about $800 of debt, which took the server about 10 months in total to pay off. With today's economy it's much harder to generate income, often our server donations just about cover our costs, then we bank any spare money to make sure if we get a low income month, we have money there to fall back on if we need it. The only way to make some money in the Minecraft server space is if you've either been well established for a long time, or if you're pay to win which is a road I never want us to go down. Just for same baseline figures, our servers total costs these days is around $350 monthly, we host our own backup server which is used daily, our own website, databases, panel, we pay for DDOS protection which is around $100 due to the bandwidth requirements. We try to do everything in house to cut down on costs but it doesn't help much... More than happy to go into more detail if you're ever interested 👍
In Poland we basically started playing minecraft on cracked, due to explosion of the popularity back in 2012. A lot of kids wanted to play like their "big youtubers". So they mostly downloaded cracked clients. Because of that pretty much every server in Poland is on cracked.
You gotta use the median if your including purple prison and other high pop server stats since they skew the data causing misrepresentations, apart from calculating the hypixel revenue nice job.
Yup. There’s a massive difference between median and average. The average American household earns about 60-70 k per year. The median earns about 30-40k.
The thing about a server like Hypixel is that they require a lot of capital in order to even maintain their servers. Things like hardware, licensing and salaries will cost the company a lot. So, even though they're making a lot of money, their net profit is probably only a few thousand dollars. I know that the point of the video was to give an estimate of how much Minecraft servers make in a month but it seems to accuse some servers (Hypixel) of making millions even though that is their net profit is much lower than the millions they were making. Great vid though. Nice to see someone bringing good content to the internet.
A comment on the statement that hypixel skyblock being P2W. While you can buy gems to get booster cookies and sell them on the bazzar, the majority of the playerbase do not do this. actually it is becoming a problem that not many people do this (The economey is in shambles RN). so yes some players are doing P2W, Skyblock has nothing that can nessasarilly make you better then other players.
another thing is that the cookies really only lead to being able to start progressing faster and then you still need to grind for hundreds of hours to get anywhere
As a Polish myself, I can pretty much say that craftmc is one of the biggest non-premium servers in all of Poland. That's why they might do so well. The second thing is that Polish people like paying for in-game goods more than a premium account. The third thing that I saw while playing is that there is a lot of premium players too but they just want to play with their non-premium friends. Last thing that I see is that they try to get the most polish popular trends, as some mid-age guys in Poland love lifesteal smp's and other things like that
As a Hypixel player I think the number must be in the $50 m a year. The reason I can comfortably come to this price is bcs unlike most servers a lot of people gift a lot of money in ranks to others. I have probably spent $700-900 on gems, ranks for others and ranks for me and my alr I am definitely an outlier but like still
You guys gotta remember that Hypixel also costs A LOT to run, generally I think all servers make around the same in terms of profits as they all need to run the server and websites etc
In these stores you are allowed to give out vouchers to players. Many servers do this, and these purchases appear in the 'recent donators' tab. This is why some servers (Like purple) have weird ratios.
I have actually been looking to start an mc network as a business for a while and wanted to know the revenue potential of a Minecraft server. While I didnt go as in depth in my math as you, I got about the same numbers for a server like Hypixel. I think we are pretty close. So needless to say, there is profitability in this if you can find a cheap enough cloud hosting platform. Services like AWS likely cant cut it because of costs.
Getting your last video demonetized is a HUGE issue, I don't know why more people aren't talking about this, it's so scummy to demonetize smaller creators and to keep those bigger monster school channels monetized BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THEY MAKE FROM LITTLE KIDS WATCHING THEIR VIDEOS. This makes me so mad, it's really unfair.This needs to be stopped.
I’ve been thinking the same thing, I just don’t know anything about coding 😂 I’m used to manual labor blue collar for my Money but seeing what some servers make I’m like 😮
as a polish guy i can say that most polish minecraft players prefer cracked version (Tlauncher is the most popular) because they dont see paid minecraft as worth it and they rather spend twice the money on a p2w server than buying minecraft. I hope I helped a little :)
I feel like hypixel makes more than the calculations say due to the fact many players buy gems for skyblock on top of ranks, but ranked players are far more likely to buy again, let’s just assume it’s around 1.5x to 3x what you estimated
Just so y'all know, hypixel skyblock does have purchasable items that can be sold in game, but it's more efficient to make money in game than to work a job and spend it on the store.
@@randomcatname7792 the people who pay to win are generally early to early-mid game players, with some of the mid game money making methods making as much as $5+ per hour, and some late game ones making $20+ per hour, its hard to see why anyone later in the game would p2w, plus p2wing doesn't get you skills/collections
For the foreign cracked servers, in countries where most people pirate Minecraft, I suspect even those who are willing to pay would still play on the cracked servers their friends are on.
You could calculate how much skyblock makes instead by the amount of cookies sold in the bazaar per month and the number of skins bought from fire sales
Another MisterEpic W, actual based activity Honestly though, I've never seen anyone do or cover anything like MisterEpic, it's great to know that any upload from him will be something of quality no matter what it's covering.
I am from poland and everyone has the mindset of "why would I buy a game when I can play it for free" so when I bought Minecraft only to play hypixel everyone was so confused, so I think everyone can spend on a Minecraft server but they cant on Minecraft which if wierd but if it works for craftplay it works
could you do a video analysing the most popular server from each country (or general region). seing for exemples what kind of servers work best were .I thought of this because of the most popular french server :Paladium and i wanted to know if other region add others type of servers (mini game,anarchy,...) as the best server created there.
While 10k or even 30k may seem like a lot, keep in mind that these amounts only cover the wages of a sizable staff team, and that the average Java developer's pay can easily reach 5k or even more.
It's so bizarre seeing how different of a world this is from what I think of minecraft servers as being, which is just like 10 people max building in a survival world
I would say that Craftmc success is bound to a quite funny concept here in Poland known as "polish oninon" (polska cebula for those interested). It essentially boils down to being extremely stingy with ones spending, at least that's how the individual in question thinks as from the outside they commonly spend a lot more on other seemingly unrelated things. That's how you can end up with a situation where a person is stubborn to pay for a game, but happily throw money on the server they play on just to have an advantage over other players which neatly ties into our innate jealousy towards our neighbours belongings and achievements.
While Skyblock may make it easy to get lots of money, they do add crazy high requirements (I would know) that often require a lot of other tasks and challenges which cant be purcahsed to complete. Most of those benefits are small qol things like afk immunity which dosn't really do anything and mabey remote acces to a anvil/enchanting table which again arent very useful.
About polish servers, Poland has 0 succesfull premium servers, so everyone is playing in cracked servers. Plus in Poland there is pirating culture, so a lot of people are on cracked but are still buying ranks.
do remember guys that it costs money to keep a server running, the money they make doesnt just go in their pockets but is used to keep it running and keep new things added in.
@@thibvp778 I guess it does depend on what server it is and just how many people actually get on. but there are good ones out there that even out their own pocket money to keep it running because they earn so little
Hey Epic, i see a problem in your calculation. You should have went with average player count and average amount of people that made purchases and from what get a % from which you would be able to take hypixels player count from which get a player count that "would be able to make a purchase" which would represent how much money they are making in a more realistic way. No hate, you did a great job. Thanks from sharing this video ❤
I wonder how the stats for hypixel would look like if you took the average cost of the store vs the avg player count, and see how that compares to profits. Do it for all the servers and put it on a graph. Then see what hypixel should be looking like. It's basically seeing how much money the average player spends. I think if you just do money per month/average player count, you could see some similarities between servers, but also if you do average cost of an item/profits, there could be a trend there. You could use these to extrapolate different estimates. I am curious how this would affect the estimated hypixel profits.
It’s important to remember that these figures aren’t the profit the servers make as server and personal costs can be quite high for mc servers especially the larger ones
If you watched the whole video, you would know that the money they "earn" are just estimates and even if they are actually around the same amount, there would still be a lot of factors that take away money.
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For hypixel you said skyblock is pay to win
sure you could spend alot of money and kind of pay to win it but certain people can make so much more and there is a huge playerbase so i guess if you spend thousands i guess you could "win" it but that;s also just for coins there are other stuff too
you need requirements to use gear
seeing how much some people spend on a server makes me feel better about my own financial decisions
They are just spoiled brats with extremely rich parents who don't know the worth of money.
I wonder what the demographic is like among these high-spending players. What age group? Family wealth or job occupation?
If I had that kind of money, trust me, I wouldn’t be spending it on video games 😂
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@@bavarian_mapping probably either children or 20 yo dude still living with his parents
Hey there! Great work on this video, and thanks for the shoutout. You weren't far off with your average calculation for MassiveCraft, your prediction was 1170.54, and our monthly average right now is 1193.97, which comes to about a monthly profit of 100 USD. Keep up the good work!
Your server isn't massive maybe if you were Pay2Win like Minecadia or Cosmic you'd have more players and youtubers :3
@@ArceusX300 Pay2Win Server Models often discourage player growth and die within a few years. Massive craft is one of the Oldest servers in Minecraft history and is still here today. While its player base may not be "Massive" its importance and influence is. Also youtubers do visit the server, we've had youtubers like skeppy visit the server.
@@ArceusX300cosmic still up? The faction server is down but idk about Prisons and I wonder how much cosmicpvp Faction was making with like 5000+ avg player base and super p2w. Remember spending a lot of money on the server.
@@ulol609 Minecadia is the new flagship Factions server. They are even more custom and well developed than Cosmic. And they have a $500 rank lots of people buy and people spend 10x as much because of Biden printing money
@@ulol609 Minecadia had access to CosmicPvP's leaked plugins and then made them 10x more quality and unique, then made everything more expensive, then paid big TH-camrs and encouraged gambling because their only rank is $500 and people buy monthly crates for a chance to win the $500 rank. Utter genius monetization setup. They likely make more than PurplePrison
As a polish guy I'm pretty sure they're doing so good cuz barely anyone pays for actual Minecraft and spend money once or twice on a server then never log back into it
You got it the wrong way around.
Everyone pays for Minecraft ONCE.
Everyone pays for servers MONTHLY.
@@ArDeeMee I was speaking from my experience but what you said makes sense too
@@ArDeeMee in Poland, offline-mode ("cracked") servers are so common, you don't need an actual minecraft account to play
@@ArDeeMee have you even watched the video?
Imo just polish kinds like to steal thier parents credit cards
Hey thats me @ 7:26 !!
As the owner of Vanilla Europa, you did portray this somewhat accurately, but it's worth noting that the majority of players get ranks and special items from voting and events, but yes you can also get those in the store.
i actually cant believe you are making x2 my salary monthly from minecraft, im actually pissed off lmao
this should not be a thing, like what the fuck.
@@dmitrijsmironovs7513 L
@@dmitrijsmironovs7513 choosing a good business model am I right
@@dmitrijsmironovs7513it should not be a thing for a BUSINESS to make twice your monthly salary? Are you stupid? The server also has staff they have to pay. Bro’s braindead
@@dmitrijsmironovs7513 I assume a lot of that money goes into paying for server hosting and to pay the people working there, the actual profit is probably much less
Shame modders can't get this type of money
Some mod creators have made well over 6 figures in the hypixel skyblock space and the cheat developers even more
@@jovinky6913 just sbe devs because they charge for their mod :) the rest do it for free with very little donations
and for cheat devs... maybe in the tens overall but not 100s of thousands
@@thegu5 sbe is technically illegal
Not even JEI probably would have made that much maybe for adds but I'd say JEI must have a mi imum OK 20k
@@thegu5Vape has over a million people subscribed to Vape Lite ($10 a month) plus they have tons of people buying Vape V4 ($35). Cheat developers, especially closet cheats, make millions from their customers.
These financial choices make me feel like a genuis
Dude you literally paid for a TH-cam membership
@@snippledipple9515 seems more smart than spending 1000 bucks in a cracked minecraft server
@@CitriTea Definitely right about that one, plus this is good content. A good financial choice is made by the person who bought it as they say
@@snippledipple9515 ik its not the "best use of money" but its better voluntarily supporting content u like, than paying to win. imo
@@snippledipple9515 it's way better to support quality content instead of giving into the urge to gamble on P2W server
To be honest i believe most of the servers fake their recent donations to some degree, i mean its a good business strategy to get people to see that someone is spending money so they would be more likely to spend
Yeah, if some servers lie about their player count they probably also lie about their recent donations.
A bunch of them have buycraft awards for ingame wins etc. and these also show up in the store
"good business strategy" I believe this is called "fraud"
@@Bropes 😅
@@entitynumber2659 is that what’s called “illegal” I think it is
Hey, head manager of Fire Vanilla here,
Interesting to see how revenue can take a spike and a fall so regularly. Last summer we were doing $900 a week and now it’s more like that a month. Hopefully new season will bring it back to life lol
Hopefully, best of luck to you guys :)
Thanks for taking the time to do this. As a staff member on a large server, this was very interesting for me to see!
what server?
😬
"umm as a Minecraft game server mod myself"🤡🤓
Bro about to ask for a raise
Thanks for taking the time to do this. As a stuff member on a large server, this was very interesting for me to see!
It must have been fun trying to read the Polish text while copying it into that notepad
From what I know, CraftMC became this popular by a sheer coincidence, as at one point, a couple of once massive polish servers either disappeared, like CraftApple, because the owner just suddenly went dark or mcsurvi pl that was once the largest server in Poland, or YTbers that were admining their servers - such as JasMC w/ JDabrowski or vertez-pl w/ Vertez (I believe that's what they were called) have stopped making minecraft content and/or their channels started dying out, resulting in their massive servers too going under.
As such, a gap in the market was created that CraftMC very neatly fitted and consequently gathered a large number of players. Those players, mind you, are usually 9-15 year oldsd with cracked launchers that are the most likely to pay for in-game items. In Poland, majority of players use apps like Crystal Launcher or Shiginima Launcher (or at least used to when I played minecraft daily) and CraftMC being a cracked server makes it even more accessible.
As a pole, I can confirm this. Very good summary of polish minecraft servers.
As a pole i confirm this
Hypixel feels justified as its a large server with a large development team. They've got costs and people to pay.
yeah its hard to pay for enough serverspace to host 200k concurrent and Simon has done a pretty good job vetting his staff to not be greedy little grubsters I would say
Yea i would be suprised if they make like 300 profit almost, Like Hypixel is a full blown company with people working full time waiting on their paycheck. And that server costs to keep everything running must be MASSIVE
Also there are limitations to it being pay to win only for sky block it’s not player vs player you need requirements for items and there’s a limit how many cookies you can sell per day
@@verde7595 If that's the case, skyblock wouldn't be pay to win.
@@sephiroth668 honestly calling it p2w is a little misleading since while yes you can pay for a slight advantage in the early game but once you are passed a certain point in the game spending money to get some Skyblock coins make almost no sense
This can be seen by a popular sb TH-camrs series where he spent 15k over a month and a half (you can only spend a maximum of 500 USD on the hypixel store)only to make it to mid game and not even in the top 10k networth leaderboard
MisterEpic is so badass for goin on a server,tells the money that the server makes,tells everyone that they spend almost 100 USD for a useless rank and then doesn't care if he is gonna get muted from the moderators is so crazy. Awesome video MisterEpic
Well, he’s said his piece. 🤷♀️
this really isnt that crazy lol
@@0w0 i know but i like that part,was cool
how is that badass? what the fuck is wrong with this pussy ass generation lmao
He is called mrepic for a reason
A more accurate way to calculate the total would be to find the revenue per average player count for each server and then average those. By doing the calculations the way you're currently doing, some of the smaller servers have almost no impact on the resulting value.
Using both the player counts and revenues, the smaller servers still do make an impact!
Smaller servers are more likely to be outliers though, so maybe it’s good they are weighted less.
@@TBH_Inc There are two problems:
1) smaller servers might have a different distribution than larger servers
2) there are less larger servers, and larger servers have a higher impact on the average, leading to much higher variability
So smaller servers wouldn't be "outliers", they'd be a different distribution. Meanwhile, the larger servers are more of a risk of being an "outlier" with large impact.
The choice between which of these problems is more important is not obvious imo.
Its assuming that all 10k monthly players on hypixel spend $250+ each 🤣🤣🤣 absolutely no fucking way
@@PatFussy96 no its not. obviously there will be people who dont spend any money and there will be people who spend 1000 dollars. thats how average works
I am Polish and from my experience in Poland, not many people buy Minecraft. Instead, they tend to spend their money on servers. This is because almost all Polish servers are cracked (referred to as "non-premium" by Polish people). Even those who do buy Minecraft tend to play on these servers because of language. In these "cracked" (non-premium) servers, there is surely a group of people who play with paid Minecraft accounts, and they are more likely to buy items from shops. The major part of the Polish Minecraft community consists of 7-11-year-old kids. Paysafecards are popular in Poland (as far as I know they are also popular in Romania, Greece and the Czech Republic). Paysafecards are prepaid cards that can be bought in almost every shop (primarily in every Żabka - a very popular, widespread Polish shop, that is literally on every street corner) and then used to buy stuff from the internet anonymously and in cash. Kids don't need to steal their parents' credit card, but they can use their own. They tend not to understand the value of money and end up spending it. Usually, they buy things that are priced low, such as $1 to $2, up to maybe $5 for VIPs. Higher sums are too much in one go, and when they buy in smaller sums, they don't realize the accumulating costs over time. Besides, almost every server is P2W (pay-to-win) or has a lot of microtransactions, which might seem acceptable to kids, and they do not see anything wrong with it. Being anonymous means they can buy stuff online without their parents' knowledge, and this lack of parental control leads to kids spending a ridiculous amount of money.
Bro's got a promising future with the IRS
Lmfao
he's not american unfortunately like us
@@AceMonkeyIlium you mean fortunately
@@SubsWithNoVids-ym4su no he meant unfortunately
@@bobnob6825Then it wouldn't make sense, what's positive about being a resident of the United States?
You have probably not converted the currenecies (1$ is ~4.17 PLN) for craftmc item prices, therefore the correct amounts are ~5791$ monthly and ~78134$ yearly. Other than that the player retention is rather weak with people buying commodities and later leaving within a few weeks of playtime. 11:44
He made sure to specify that the revenue he calculated was in usd
As a polish user I think I know the reason behind such a high amount of money being get by servers. Main reason polish servers are getting so much money is because most of the cracked server's player base are kids in age 9-13, and they most of the time buy things with no awareness. (or with parent's money which is sad)
Polish parents coming back home from a hard days work to find their child spent their entire bank account worth of money on a p2w minecraft server
@@Hikarino-yami true
@@Hikarino-yami spanking time
Btw tf u doing on youtube at 5-6 am (get some sleep)
@@uxiii9537 i cant sleep
I used to be staff on Manacube. They claim to offer items that aren't pay to win but obviously are, its like the whole server is gaslighting one another to believe that tremendous lie. Also the pressure to buy items on there is insane, reinforcing a culture of alienating the people who have not paid meanwhile there is an almost cultish like surrounding of the owner. Scary stuff especially when children are the prime targets of this manipulation.
I love how a staff on that melon server tried to tell TheMisterEpic out of all people to learn what p2w means
Bro got blinded by his paycheck
As a pole, I think the reason so many people buy stuff on cracked servers is because the people in our country find a minecraft account useless, since almost every single polish server is cracked. So basically a polish cracked server works like a normal server. We have no reasons to buy minecraft but spending on servers is pretty popular.
6:07 I used to play on MineBerry after I saw it in a banner ad in tlauncher (forgive me for this sin) back in late 2019/20(?) It was extremely p2w, especially in the survival server. The Immortal rank literally allows /op and there are many who sells their stacked shulkers of stacked 32k gear and items. The economy is inflated as hell, and I quitted after spending like 2 or 3 months grinding naturally with my little brother only for it to reset.
This is actually a wild video, I've always been interested on how much some of these servers made.
Nice name
I'm from Poland but my explanations can be more general. Not all players in cracked servers are people who haven't bought minecraft. Minecraft is often played with friends. In poorer countries, many people cannot afford to buy Minecraft. So people with money wanting to play with friends play on cracked servers. They spend money maybe bc they want to show and ofc its p2w but still they want to be able to play with friends who didn't buy minecraft.
I'm Polish, used to play on that server and have a few theories why it makes that much money. No inside data but like 7 years of playing on that or simmilar Polish servers.
I think it's thanks to you ( and some personal research on some p2w servers) that I have decided to play on non p2w or servers that don't reinforce the p2w so hard. along with Sal1C, Horizon, and many others. Good stuff man.
Ahh yes, my Favorite TH-camr Sal1C.
Guys don't forget:
Running a server costs a ton.
Big channels have staff: Staff doesn't only cost the wages but also associated employer outlays. This adds up.
Yeah they make money, but way less then similar buisnesses both in and outside gaming.
It sounds like so much, but it really isn't.
3.5 mln pln netto
As a data scientist, I very much appreciate your transparency about your methodology and the giant grain of salt you have us take with your final projection.
I think you're missing something big, though: you're assuming that the purchases you're recording are all legitimate, when some could be bot-generated, designed to make products appear more popular than they are, or *some may be outright money laundering*
Would you be willing to make your dataset publicly available? I'm really curious what other insights we can glean from it.
Sure, dm me on discord and I'll share it with you :) My discord server is linked in my videos description
8:33 Why be a LonelyTrooper when you can upgrade to DuperTrooper?
It's important to note that this is revenue and not profit. Revenue is not the full picture as there are lots of costs that drain away at that revenue.
Edit: I know mr epic mentioned this eventually but that was at the end of the video, far too late imo
True, but as someone who used to be on the inside of loverfellas server team, there aren't many costs at all. Most of his team is not paid at all, except for devs and admins. Add those and the server costs and sure its not free, but it doesn't cost nearly as much as you would expect.
@@LukeHuber Huh, thanks for the info. I wonder how much the hypixel server costs (in hardware, electricity, etc.), and how much devs are paid.
Do you think total costs are a small fraction (
@@Benw8888 if I had to guess Hypixel costs a shitload. From my understanding all admins get paid, as well as developers who if I had to guess make a shit load (around 6 figures yearly) add onto the immense amount of servers they have running and I bet it runs in the millions to maintain. Who knows exactly how much though.
That's not really the point, the point is to show how much money people waste on useless things. Some idiot wasted a whole high end pc for useless virtual items on a trash server
Hosting Minecraft servers is pretty cheap and scales linear
The only servers that actually cost money to run are the ones where all admins and Devs are paid like Hypixel, but even then they still do plenty of profit
I still feel sorry for Pewdiepie for spending a few minutes on Purple Prison 4 years ago.
Honestly this is sad, baffling and kinda impressive at the same time, you could also exploit tebex itself (which is most minecraft server webstores use for purchaces) to calculate the money,,,
As a spanish speaking person and a casual universo player, I can confidently say that the problem here is that in many countries like Mexico, Peru, Ecuador, etc. a Minecraft account is worth too much, so they get a cracked account and buy those ranks, that are probably cheaper. Neptuno may be the rank thats comparable in price to a mc account but, if you play long enough, its like spending MVP+ on hypixel when you play a lot of pvp / skyblock, it becomes worth it.
5:16 It might be a little strange, but it is possible to buy unbans using netherite ingots or whatever currency that server uses. It's hard to explain but because of minecraft's eula, it technically is allowed to buy a rank on a server by being payed with netherite ingots, due to the all the items being obtained in survival minecraft. I'll bet that is what is happening with the unbans there.
Keep in mind that this is just straight revenue, not gross profit. It obviously costs money per month to run the Minecraft servers, whether you host it yourself on dedicated servers or buy a subscription service. I am not entirely sure if Hypixel staff get paid at all or if it is strictly volunteer, but that also plays into it a lot if they do. The actual profits after expenses will be significantly lower depending on how high the expenses are.
hypixel does pay their staff, admins get like 100k a year or something
Hypixel has so many players that don' t play skyblock, it is a very loose estimate to assume that every player is spending upwards of $50 per month in the server alone. With that said, this video is still very educational on minecraft server profits and I hope the good content continues.
It's not like only 40k people ever log on its just 40k average players. I wouldn't be suprised if hypixel has upwards of a million unique account logins monthly.
Yeah but the deviation would be covered by the extreme popularity of the server attracting whale at a much higher rate
@@doofus2157 id say 250-400k probably
@@doofus2157 1Mil seems overexagerative, 500k peek, but I get the point, I believe that it is unlikely that a person will log on 5/30 days to be a whale in skyblock or premium memberships, and many might be alt accounts for some, and so alt accounts probably dont have memberships or be hard whaling in skyblock. This is all my opinion and I dont have much facts to back it up, take it with a grain of salt.
the fact that the most popular rank in the past couple years is like 30 a month by itself its honestly not too surprising that the venn diagram of those players and skyblock whales would be pretty close to a circle
Wondering, if some servers fake their playercounts, wouldn't some fake their sales so other people see them and go ''Oh, this guy bought it, I should too''?
If this can be proved then the video would be have far more realistic results
But the server community would know fast; if a player is said to have made a purchase they will tell everyone they did not. And people would notice if a nobody is outspending hardcore community regulars
Thing is, he talked to the people on the server and they seem to confirm it lol
It's quite mind boggling how a Minecraft server can even make that much money.
Very interesting experiment! Would be interesting to see this tracked over a longer period, especially the summer months when more kids aren’t in school.
I ran a server for 3 years between 2019 and 2022 during the second boom of Minecraft and averaged 10-20 players, so very small, yet still averaged £250 a month! Crazy to see how much things have changed
Crate keys were by far the most profitable item to sell on a server making up more than 50% of the revenue from my server
Also surprised purple prison doesn’t make more than that as I’m pretty sure that’s very close to what they spend on buying advertising spots each month 😂
I’m sorry, but this must have taken forever to make this. GG MisterEpic, now leak your own servers stats xD
Honestly i wouldn't say that vanilla europa is a semi p2w server. I play there a lot (in fact, i was there when you recorded the video) and you can get all the rewards from special crate without paying just fine due to the presence of a vote party that gives you a special key most of the time and the ability to buy special crates items with diamonds. Other than that i think that this is a well done video. Good job!
out of curiosity what is stopping these servers from just pretending that people are buying ranks and displaying it on the shop in order to encourage others to buy stuff? same way that servers spoof players to pretend people are playing on them. that might explain why some servers have people spending an absurd amount of money per month. good video overall ofc
good point but i think you could probably verify this eventually by making sure the name that comes up is a real minecraft account and ensuring its not recurrently coming up
Why would you buy a rank on a server just because you saw someone else do it? That is plain stupid and doesn't make any sense. Spoofing does make sense because if I see a server has 1k players I'll rather play on it than a server with 50 people.
It is a bad look for players as a server owner this technique is plain ineffective and 100% not worth it aswell as mentioning its scummy
Hypixel also has a full staff of admins, for which hypixel is their actual job. Hypixels high amount of money HAS to be high to support the salaries of the admin team, and to pay for the servers. The servers, which, are supporting over 50 THOUSAND players around the clock with relatively low lag.
Minecraft servers make a lot more than I thought they do
Back when I owned a server, servers would pay 5k-10k for a month of advertising(like server list can’t think of the names now) and to hire TH-camrs like vik and prestonplays, costed us 20k to get them to make a video on the server(13k for vik and 7k for Preston) generally you’d push your server population up to 100+ and hope to make your return in 3 months.
Another Polish guy to speak from experience:
Polish servers typically had a model of locking the really fun stuff behind ranks.
For example, there was (maybe still is, not sure) a gamemode called "Fighters vs Monsters", where you'd have different classes with abilities to play. All well and good, but 90% of the actually fun classes were locked behind ranks or paywalls that would unlock it for you.
Buying a perma rank would also cost so much, it would probably be more worth it to spend enough cash for months of it.
Ontop of that, Polish servers make it *very easy* to buy stuff from them. For instance I remember some servers even accepting paying by sending a text message and having it bill through your phone company.
Which also tricked kids into spending alot of cash. A friend of mine had an unlimited data plan on his phone when we were in primary school (like 8 or so years ago?), so he thought he could cheat the system and blew a couple thousands of his parents' money on stuff on the server.
Though I'm not sure how the situation looks nowadays, since I haven't played on any Polish servers in actual years.
I will say that Hypixel Skyblock making so much makes sense to me, and with how much they innovate in their Skyblock game mode makes me feel like it's reasonable. After all, it's Minecraft's biggest MMORPG.
Btw I have a biased towards Hypixel Skyblock, I'm not a max skills/gear/pets/dungeon lvl guy, but I do happen to be a person who joined post original End update, around August - November 2019. And I loved the Dante vs Technoblade event in 2021. Made that year of highs actually have a highlight lol
I joined July 2019
That game would be nice with 50 times less grinding
the fact that you can unban yourself with money at some servers in minecraft is absolutely disgusting and corrupt. Its kinda the same thing as buying yourself out of a prison irl.
Should have looked into pixelmon servers, they are typically very p2w and offer a ton of different ways to spend
As long as you got FartyMcFartson on your server it's profitable
True
As a person who runs a non pay to win server I can in fact confirm your final statement there to be true.
To get our server back up and running (after we suffered a fatal data loss just before I took the server over) cost me personally a total of about $800 of debt, which took the server about 10 months in total to pay off. With today's economy it's much harder to generate income, often our server donations just about cover our costs, then we bank any spare money to make sure if we get a low income month, we have money there to fall back on if we need it. The only way to make some money in the Minecraft server space is if you've either been well established for a long time, or if you're pay to win which is a road I never want us to go down.
Just for same baseline figures, our servers total costs these days is around $350 monthly, we host our own backup server which is used daily, our own website, databases, panel, we pay for DDOS protection which is around $100 due to the bandwidth requirements. We try to do everything in house to cut down on costs but it doesn't help much...
More than happy to go into more detail if you're ever interested 👍
It goes to show that running a Minecraft server will not be a good full-time job unless you are hired by the top servers or have the server pay2win
In Poland we basically started playing minecraft on cracked, due to explosion of the popularity back in 2012. A lot of kids wanted to play like their "big youtubers". So they mostly downloaded cracked clients. Because of that pretty much every server in Poland is on cracked.
You gotta use the median if your including purple prison and other high pop server stats since they skew the data causing misrepresentations, apart from calculating the hypixel revenue nice job.
Yup. There’s a massive difference between median and average.
The average American household earns about 60-70 k per year.
The median earns about 30-40k.
It’s a shocker how much money a Minecraft server can make, it really shows us something about the servers themselves!
it feels like running a discord but you actually earn money
Yeah but you need lots of technical knowledge or money to run and support server
@@JavaJumper just use a hosting service and it does 50% of the work
The thing about a server like Hypixel is that they require a lot of capital in order to even maintain their servers. Things like hardware, licensing and salaries will cost the company a lot.
So, even though they're making a lot of money, their net profit is probably only a few thousand dollars.
I know that the point of the video was to give an estimate of how much Minecraft servers make in a month but it seems to accuse some servers (Hypixel) of making millions even though that is their net profit is much lower than the millions they were making.
Great vid though. Nice to see someone bringing good content to the internet.
Joel, you clearly dont know what you are talking about. A few thousand dollars of profit??? Don't be ridiculous 🤣
A comment on the statement that hypixel skyblock being P2W. While you can buy gems to get booster cookies and sell them on the bazzar, the majority of the playerbase do not do this. actually it is becoming a problem that not many people do this (The economey is in shambles RN). so yes some players are doing P2W, Skyblock has nothing that can nessasarilly make you better then other players.
another thing is that the cookies really only lead to being able to start progressing faster and then you still need to grind for hundreds of hours to get anywhere
This is insanely accurate, I'm the owner of HYLEXMC, 5:25, it only few euros off, and thank you for providing this data :)
yes good video, and hylexmc not p2w.
As a Polish myself, I can pretty much say that craftmc is one of the biggest non-premium servers in all of Poland. That's why they might do so well. The second thing is that Polish people like paying for in-game goods more than a premium account. The third thing that I saw while playing is that there is a lot of premium players too but they just want to play with their non-premium friends. Last thing that I see is that they try to get the most polish popular trends, as some mid-age guys in Poland love lifesteal smp's and other things like that
As a Hypixel player I think the number must be in the $50 m a year. The reason I can comfortably come to this price is bcs unlike most servers a lot of people gift a lot of money in ranks to others. I have probably spent $700-900 on gems, ranks for others and ranks for me and my alr I am definitely an outlier but like still
But over what time period?
My husbands has spend over 10k on Warhammer 40k. He’s been playing for over 25 years.
@@ArDeeMee like a year but I know of like 5 thousand plus other people who spend wayyy more then me each year
You guys gotta remember that Hypixel also costs A LOT to run, generally I think all servers make around the same in terms of profits as they all need to run the server and websites etc
Think its safe to say Mineplex is making 0 dollars a month.
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In these stores you are allowed to give out vouchers to players. Many servers do this, and these purchases appear in the 'recent donators' tab. This is why some servers (Like purple) have weird ratios.
As far as i understand, the P2W feature on skyblock is extremely inefficient so i don't really know how many people are using it.
Great video I still remember when u had 30k subs been here since the beginning All love man!❤💯
“Not Pay to win”
“You can actually buy permanent unbans”
Mister White forget about cooking crystals.
We need to start a Minecraft server.
I have actually been looking to start an mc network as a business for a while and wanted to know the revenue potential of a Minecraft server. While I didnt go as in depth in my math as you, I got about the same numbers for a server like Hypixel. I think we are pretty close. So needless to say, there is profitability in this if you can find a cheap enough cloud hosting platform. Services like AWS likely cant cut it because of costs.
Aye, let me know if you need a builder?
Getting your last video demonetized is a HUGE issue, I don't know why more people aren't talking about this, it's so scummy to demonetize smaller creators and to keep those bigger monster school channels monetized BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THEY MAKE FROM LITTLE KIDS WATCHING THEIR VIDEOS. This makes me so mad, it's really unfair.This needs to be stopped.
Was waiting for you to expose my server. THANK GOD!!
Lmao
I need to make a Minecraft server
Lol, winner
I’ve been thinking the same thing, I just don’t know anything about coding 😂 I’m used to manual labor blue collar for my
Money but seeing what some servers make I’m like 😮
5:26 the name Hylex scared me for a sec. there's one brazilian server called Hylex without the mc that is actually pretty good
as a polish guy i can say that most polish minecraft players prefer cracked version (Tlauncher is the most popular) because they dont see paid minecraft as worth it and they rather spend twice the money on a p2w server than buying minecraft. I hope I helped a little :)
Honestly Vanilla Europa Is a great server to play on
I feel like hypixel makes more than the calculations say due to the fact many players buy gems for skyblock on top of ranks, but ranked players are far more likely to buy again, let’s just assume it’s around 1.5x to 3x what you estimated
Just so y'all know, hypixel skyblock does have purchasable items that can be sold in game, but it's more efficient to make money in game than to work a job and spend it on the store.
So you can farm more than $130 worth of stuff on 9 hours?
@@randomcatname7792 with the garden yes, yes you can
@@masterplasma5644 oh that's kinda crazy. If that's the case though, how p2w can it really be
@@randomcatname7792 the people who pay to win are generally early to early-mid game players, with some of the mid game money making methods making as much as $5+ per hour, and some late game ones making $20+ per hour, its hard to see why anyone later in the game would p2w, plus p2wing doesn't get you skills/collections
@@randomcatname7792 paying to win isnt possible in skyblock, it just gets you items you cant use because you skipped a bunch of progression.
For the foreign cracked servers, in countries where most people pirate Minecraft, I suspect even those who are willing to pay would still play on the cracked servers their friends are on.
You could calculate how much skyblock makes instead by the amount of cookies sold in the bazaar per month and the number of skins bought from fire sales
Another MisterEpic W, actual based activity
Honestly though, I've never seen anyone do or cover anything like MisterEpic, it's great to know that any upload from him will be something of quality no matter what it's covering.
I am from poland and everyone has the mindset of "why would I buy a game when I can play it for free" so when I bought Minecraft only to play hypixel everyone was so confused, so I think everyone can spend on a Minecraft server but they cant on Minecraft which if wierd but if it works for craftplay it works
Prawda
Im going to make a pay to win server instead of becoming a doctor
could you do a video analysing the most popular server from each country (or general region).
seing for exemples what kind of servers work best were .I thought of this because of the most popular french server :Paladium and i wanted to know if other region add others type of servers (mini game,anarchy,...) as the best server created there.
You should test how much money they make before and after duping shenanigans
While 10k or even 30k may seem like a lot, keep in mind that these amounts only cover the wages of a sizable staff team, and that the average Java developer's pay can easily reach 5k or even more.
Who was thinking about opening a server after this 😂😂
real
@@tl1882 i actually did holy moly
Just exported my second season video
Life is really turning around
It's so bizarre seeing how different of a world this is from what I think of minecraft servers as being, which is just like 10 people max building in a survival world
I would say that Craftmc success is bound to a quite funny concept here in Poland known as "polish oninon" (polska cebula for those interested). It essentially boils down to being extremely stingy with ones spending, at least that's how the individual in question thinks as from the outside they commonly spend a lot more on other seemingly unrelated things. That's how you can end up with a situation where a person is stubborn to pay for a game, but happily throw money on the server they play on just to have an advantage over other players which neatly ties into our innate jealousy towards our neighbours belongings and achievements.
Amazing video! Appreciate you taking the time to get us this info!
While Skyblock may make it easy to get lots of money, they do add crazy high requirements (I would know) that often require a lot of other tasks and challenges which cant be purcahsed to complete. Most of those benefits are small qol things like afk immunity which dosn't really do anything and mabey remote acces to a anvil/enchanting table which again arent very useful.
About polish servers, Poland has 0 succesfull premium servers, so everyone is playing in cracked servers. Plus in Poland there is pirating culture, so a lot of people are on cracked but are still buying ranks.
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Ah ok, that makes a lot of sense then
It’s so insane how a block game server for kids can make more money in a year than someone can make in 7 years
do remember guys that it costs money to keep a server running, the money they make doesnt just go in their pockets but is used to keep it running and keep new things added in.
This. There's an unwritten rule that you should reinvest ~70% of the total earnings to ensure it still runs smoothly(upkeep costs included)
look up server renting services for 150 people, they make massive profit.
@@thibvp778 I guess it does depend on what server it is and just how many people actually get on. but there are good ones out there that even out their own pocket money to keep it running because they earn so little
That doesn't cost a lot when looking at how much money they make.
Hey Epic, i see a problem in your calculation.
You should have went with average player count and average amount of people that made purchases and from what get a % from which you would be able to take hypixels player count from which get a player count that "would be able to make a purchase" which would represent how much money they are making in a more realistic way.
No hate, you did a great job. Thanks from sharing this video ❤
the amount of dedication MisterEpic puts into his videos is insane.
I wonder how the stats for hypixel would look like if you took the average cost of the store vs the avg player count, and see how that compares to profits. Do it for all the servers and put it on a graph. Then see what hypixel should be looking like. It's basically seeing how much money the average player spends. I think if you just do money per month/average player count, you could see some similarities between servers, but also if you do average cost of an item/profits, there could be a trend there. You could use these to extrapolate different estimates. I am curious how this would affect the estimated hypixel profits.
Poland has a different currency so it might look like they get much more money when in reality its probably the same as all the other servers.
Where is Wynncraft? Where is Wynncraft?
It’s important to remember that these figures aren’t the profit the servers make as server and personal costs can be quite high for mc servers especially the larger ones
*Hypixel raking in THAT MUCH MONEY yet they CAN'T EVEN MAKE THEIR GAME Hytale*
If you watched the whole video, you would know that the money they "earn" are just estimates and even if they are actually around the same amount, there would still be a lot of factors that take away money.
Who cares about Hytale now
having a ton of money doesn't realistically make game development go much faster, if you aren't hiring AAA amounts of people