The pre-war pattern telogreika(used in the Winter War 19139 for example) actually didn't yet have a M/35 style collar, that was added in 1941, so the post-war telogreika(after the pocket mods) works for the entire war.
True, and many photos of soldiers wearing telogreika have been misidentified as m41 when in reality the soldier just put his collar sticking out, which makes it appear like a m41 collared telogreika. This is a little problematic as it makes the m41 appear more common than it really was.
Can we get a follow up or part 2 to this video? There is a lot of valuable information here but I think it would be helpful to further in depth about the supplemental gear. (Belts, rigs, canteens, bags, pouches, etc.)
What do you think about the mid war switch to the tsarist style uniform? Was it out of necessity to simplify production or out of symbolism to evoke Russian patriotism?
Thank you for the video as it is a good introduction for newcomers, I am too guilty of having the "tractor soles" sapogis at the moment, budget haven't allowed for the correct dot type. Luckily I own a pair of low boots (laced model) to have my puttees with until I can get the correct sapogis.
Overall great video I loved it! A few things to mention, gymnastiorka (1943 model) with pockets existed, and was meant to be used by officers as well as standard version (but in reality both types were used by all the soldiers), however there wasn't really one type of fabric, in war time uniforms, there was used a veriety of fabric colours aswell as blends, And just one more thing, i know it is hard to spell but tielogriejka means litearly tielo (body) griejka (warming) and should be spelles with an accent on tie and griej with a little separation inbetween tielo-griejka, also to conclude according to my knowledge based mostly (in this particular situation) on Philippe RIO's book "the soviet soldier in ww2" which is, in my opinion must read, kierz pouches were used by some soldiers allthou they were rare, it is also worth mentioning that most of post war canteen covers are incorrect becouse of very wrong fabric and the fact that war time ones were more baggy, also the colour of the canteen is important, but the ones produces in the time of war were of a different shape (more tear drop like at the top), a little bit smaller with much different cap (that waried according to factory) smaller screw and made of two parts pressed together (top and screw part). Again, I am not trying to tell, that you Sir don't know what you are talking about, as I said the video was great, althou those things are worth to mentione.
You know for boots I still prefer the post war onces for my German reenacting because it is just better to wear. I did have a hobnail german boot but it broke. Also because the metal on the replicas make noise and is slippery
Where did you get the resources to find out that the British supplied B5 boots to the Soviets in the war? I'm currently interested in getting low boots and they seem to be one of the best plausible boots that were worn in the war.
also put the uniform with the crown on the coat of arms of the Greek army, which fought from 1911 with the beginning of the Balkan wars until the Asia Minor catastrophe in 1922 with the betrayal of the great powers, for the sake of history, as soon as outside of Ankara, the Greek army 🇬🇷🇬🇷👑👑
I would say for your case it is better to look for etsy or ebay There are a few sellers in Ukraine that might have boots that size. However I doubt it would be the correct ww2 type soles
@@ottoman_reenactor_ctthats the thing is because of [CURRENT EVENTS] nothing ships from the ukraine to the us, ive tried to order stuff from ebay and even ukrainian owned websites like sovietboots, and nothing ever arrives (and the worst part ukrainians seem to be the only ones with boots in my size)
@@rkkastarshina3989 Then I suggest not because I've only seen them worn by officers (Jr Lieutenant and up). I've only seen Sergeants wear the version without pockets. You can get one off Schusters for $39.7 USD (idk about shipping costs)
That is one glorious mustache
Thank you
Definitely it is 👍
It's a time traveler from WW1
The pre-war pattern telogreika(used in the Winter War 19139 for example) actually didn't yet have a M/35 style collar, that was added in 1941, so the post-war telogreika(after the pocket mods) works for the entire war.
True, and many photos of soldiers wearing telogreika have been misidentified as m41 when in reality the soldier just put his collar sticking out, which makes it appear like a m41 collared telogreika. This is a little problematic as it makes the m41 appear more common than it really was.
As someone who is just getting into soviet reenacting this lines up with what I have been hearing and what Ive been reading, very helpful!
Nice voice, friendly attitude, very pedagogic video mate. I learned some stuff
Can we get a follow up or part 2 to this video? There is a lot of valuable information here but I think it would be helpful to further in depth about the supplemental gear. (Belts, rigs, canteens, bags, pouches, etc.)
Awesome info, really helpful for new members!
Thank you for informative video!))
What do you think about the mid war switch to the tsarist style uniform? Was it out of necessity to simplify production or out of symbolism to evoke Russian patriotism?
Thats a fine mustach comrade
Thank you for the video as it is a good introduction for newcomers, I am too guilty of having the "tractor soles" sapogis at the moment, budget haven't allowed for the correct dot type. Luckily I own a pair of low boots (laced model) to have my puttees with until I can get the correct sapogis.
were do you getting the boots from? Cause I only found a hand full of shops that sell soviet ww2 boots but in a lot of cases they aren't fit that good
In the photo at 3:28, the "enlisted" soldiers wearing the Gymnasterkas with pockets are also officers
İlk yorumda benden olsun.😉🙂
As an old school reenactor, I enjoyed this as I am redoing my Naval Infantry impression
Could you tell me how to do the mustache? I mean for real! Also did you join the group while studying?
I guess this is mainly for 1943-45 late war re-enactment.
This isn’t related to the vid, but do u where I could a Mosin nagant or ppsh41 ammo pouch? I am dressing up as a Soviet.
Bıyık güzel olmuş tavariş.
Overall great video I loved it! A few things to mention, gymnastiorka (1943 model) with pockets existed, and was meant to be used by officers as well as standard version (but in reality both types were used by all the soldiers), however there wasn't really one type of fabric, in war time uniforms, there was used a veriety of fabric colours aswell as blends, And just one more thing, i know it is hard to spell but tielogriejka means litearly tielo (body) griejka (warming) and should be spelles with an accent on tie and griej with a little separation inbetween tielo-griejka, also to conclude according to my knowledge based mostly (in this particular situation) on Philippe RIO's book "the soviet soldier in ww2" which is, in my opinion must read, kierz pouches were used by some soldiers allthou they were rare, it is also worth mentioning that most of post war canteen covers are incorrect becouse of very wrong fabric and the fact that war time ones were more baggy, also the colour of the canteen is important, but the ones produces in the time of war were of a different shape (more tear drop like at the top), a little bit smaller with much different cap (that waried according to factory) smaller screw and made of two parts pressed together (top and screw part). Again, I am not trying to tell, that you Sir don't know what you are talking about, as I said the video was great, althou those things are worth to mentione.
were would you recommend to get the boots especially for a person like me who has thick calves
Do you suggest any site for research and another for buying stuff? Greetings from Italy 🇮🇹
I find it funny that kulaks are the ones talking about and reenacting red army uniform
Not hating just laughing keep up the good work fellow history nerd
Awesome moustache, dude! Homegrown?
Did you talk about post war veshmoshocks?
Hello
Can you tell exactly what color the red army greatcoat was between 1943 to 1945 please,it's for color figures in 1/35 scale thank you.
Do you see " Ivan Brovkin" movie Its got many things about uniform.
You know for boots I still prefer the post war onces for my German reenacting because it is just better to wear. I did have a hobnail german boot but it broke. Also because the metal on the replicas make noise and is slippery
Вполне грамотно. Интересно.
Where did you get the resources to find out that the British supplied B5 boots to the Soviets in the war? I'm currently interested in getting low boots and they seem to be one of the best plausible boots that were worn in the war.
The lend lease pattern boots were simillar to the b5s but the main boot used was the ww2 ammo boots as many still do get found on soldiers bodies
@@ottoman_reenactor_ct Sweet, thanks for the reply.
also put the uniform with the crown on the coat of arms of the Greek army, which fought from 1911 with the beginning of the Balkan wars until the Asia Minor catastrophe in 1922 with the betrayal of the great powers, for the sake of history, as soon as outside of Ankara, the Greek army 🇬🇷🇬🇷👑👑
luv
Where can I find good quality Soviet reproduction gear?
Voin in Ukraine or Schusters in Belarus
Does those clothes have flat felled seam or what kind of?
Yes
Is every seam flat felled and what abaut telogreika pants?
Your wrong about 1 thing, soviets were lendleased ww2 ammo boots by the British as some have been found in archeological digs in the caucuses.
Yes
I wear size 13.5 american shoe (european 46.5) where could i find the soviet boots?
I would say for your case it is better to look for etsy or ebay
There are a few sellers in Ukraine that might have boots that size.
However I doubt it would be the correct ww2 type soles
@@ottoman_reenactor_ctthats the thing is because of [CURRENT EVENTS] nothing ships from the ukraine to the us, ive tried to order stuff from ebay and even ukrainian owned websites like sovietboots, and nothing ever arrives (and the worst part ukrainians seem to be the only ones with boots in my size)
If I do a Battle of Berlin/Battle in Poland 1944/45, can I use a Гимнастёрка with the pockets?
Well idk, are you trying to do a regular soldier or an officer?
@@kaptainkrafter4130 Sergeant/Starshina
@@rkkastarshina3989 Then I suggest not because I've only seen them worn by officers (Jr Lieutenant and up). I've only seen Sergeants wear the version without pockets. You can get one off Schusters for $39.7 USD (idk about shipping costs)
@@kaptainkrafter4130 Well, the problem is, I already have the officers Gimnastyerka XD
@@rkkastarshina3989 ah...maybe try and switch to a field officer then? If you wanna stay accurate, that is.
i do polish army in the east
This is awesome. What rank you are reenacting?
@@dariusznovak im a private in the Tadeusz Kosciuszko division
Hi you're wearing your pilotka wrong the star need to be in the center of face
Hahah no
your accent is so confusing
how come
@@ottoman_reenactor_ct It's like a mix of something slavic, something from England, and something from the American midwest. It's cool actually.
Bu kanalı takip etmemek ve Cem hayranı olmamak için sadece bir neden söyleyin
Ridiculous
sure bro
Good mustache ….. wow