No pilot here forgot thrust. That’s the most ridiculous comment I’ve ever heard. Spool up time on these engines is not immediate. The go around attitude is set and then hold what you got. Also, this supposed tail strike, would be an over rotation. Again, you set the takeoff attitude and hold it for liftoff. We are all well versed in exactly what attitude the tail will strike. And this is different for takeoff and landing and has some considerations including strut compression. Go arounds are done for a variety of reasons including a bounce, late touchdown etc. A go around can be executed at any time and may include touching down.
@sigmasssigmaboy For a normal airline: yes, expected take off behavior For Aerosucre: no! That would mean they did not overload the plane to the max 😂
That landing at 1:40 was so smooth even the spoilers didn't realise the landing gear had made contact with the ground. They were like... "uugh, now? Or have we not landed yet?"
@@Djnffnoeosmfasjjd bro what? you can clearly see various components inside the wing jiggling naturally from vibrations. Plus, the ground is way too detailed to be a simulation.
Looks like that doesn't it 😅 I had a landing exactly like that one on a Cathay A350-1000, and I found that the only way you can tell when it touched down in the clip, is from listening to the audio, you can hear the rattling or other noises of a touchdown. I will post the clip of my landing on youtube very soon, and I'll put the link here so you can see what I mean :)
Think Planes has an alternate view of the Singapore on their 22nd Dec stream, around 2hrs 33m in. It looks like they couldn't get the nose down, initiated the go around, pulled up but risked a tail strike so lowered the nose, waited to get some more speed then proceeded with the TOGA. It was a miserable, gusty day and the above is pure speculation.
1:55 How do you know there was no flare input? He seemed to be making a smooth landing then - bump! I think it's more likely that it was wind conditions.
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Happy Holidays @3minutesofaviation and all the best for the new year! Great videos as always... thought we were going to have a full airbus 3 mins there 😂
well it takes a moment for the engines to spool up. i'm sure, the pilot did not forget thrust, he just smashed the throttle to TOGA and the engines took a couple seconds to go from idle to Takeoff Thrust. Also, this wasn't a Go Around, it was a rejected landing. If the plane aborts the landing above minimum (decision altitude/height) it is a Go Around, below minnimum, it's a rejected landing.
Normally, they land with a relatively high power setting and brakes to spool up faster. But sometimes, they look at what happens when the engines are really idle. Anyhow, it was no unsafe procedure. Sometimes one should try what happens out of prescribed procedures to tell it to the youngsters.
@@gottfriedheumesser1994 Yes but they touched down and began rolling out, they would likely have gone to idle at touchdown. Didn't engage reversers as they weren't fully committed to the landing. Most go arounds occur before touchdown/spoiler deployment.
@@holobolo1661 Have you ever heard about a touch-and-go landing? I made thousands as an instructor. Sadly, we do not know what was the intention of the flight. I don't see a cause for a go-around.
@@gottfriedheumesser1994 I have, and if they had planned to do a touch and go prior to touchdown, they would not have armed the spoilers. Cause is unknown but likely long landing or less likely but possibly a runway incursion.
@@holobolo1661 A touch-and-go landing always touches the runway like a normal landing, and after some run the plane is brought into take-off configuration and the engines are set to take-off power. You mean an abandoned landing when the plane goes around without touching the runway.
it wasnt early pitch up thats what u are suppose to do so the plane doesnt lose its lift and it will not tail strike as we know the pitch degree to have a tail strike .
I assume the dreamliner has to be fueled up to the rim when it leaves for the south pole, since it can‘t be refueled there. the plane needs to touch down at the south pole on half tanks.
@@TheColinChapman If you make enough ridiculous assumptions I am sure you can make it fit your ridiculous scenario. And by the way, I have 17,000hrs in command of large transport jets.🙄
Hopefully we don't increase the number of people out there, Antarctica is a Gem. I went there by boat and returned by plane. I feel a bit guilty about it now. I'll admit, it's the Coolest thing I've ever seen.
It looks like the airbrakes were deployed which would mean the rear gear was on the ground. Is it common, or extremely rare, to see a go around when gear is on the ground? (...and not just a bounce or two).
This isnt the first time ive seen this with A350 aircraft. Typically during a go around, you command it by hitting a button on the thrust levers and it pushes the trust up then you fly the flight director which only commands a pull up when the power comes up. This is the 10th video I've seen where the pilot tries to pull up prior having speed. Thats extremely dangerous. I wonder if the systems arent calibrated properly or the pilots are rushing the go around.
Looks to me like the Singapore Airlines plane landed so soft that the pilots didn’t realise the wheels were down and thought they were floating and so initiated a go around.
Christ, the British Airways plane needs some time in a Shed and going over by work crews... Then a lick of paint. I saw one of their 777s were filthy a few months back and hoped it would be rotated out of service by now.
You don’t land anywhere near the ‘piano bars’ as you call them. The aiming point is 1000’ beyond the threshold, and any sort of extended flare/ float can lead to a touchdown outside the TDZ. Your ‘2/3rds’ comment is irrelevant guff. Your landing performance (calculated before you start the approach) takes all the relevant factors into consideration and gives you a landing distance for the auto brake settings available. You choose the brake setting to stop you within the required distance. That landing performance calculation is based on touching down at the correct point, with various additional factors applied. Go beyond that point and you cannot be certain where (or if) you will stop on the runway, or beyond the end of it. That’s why you go around/ perform a baulked landing.
787, 757, and A340, among many others, have flown in and out of Antarctica. It's a 4 hour flight from Punta Arenas, Chile, with no divert option except returning to Chile. So the aircrew must study the weather forecast very carefully before takeoff. The aircraft must carry enough fuel for the round trip. Fortunately the aircraft is lightweight for the return flight, with less fuel and less cargo.
The weather forecast is just to determine if it’s financially worth it to go. The flight doesn’t require any extra fuel to be brought. It’s more important to know the return airport has good weather.
✈️✈️✈️ In the 1990’s I witnessed a tail strike at SFO International Airport. The aircraft involved was an L-1011, and it happened at dusk so the long trail of glowing sparks generated by the tail strike was heart stopping as it was beautiful!
In the real world of aviation, nobody calls it “butter”. It’s called a “greaser”. So if Airbus called it what you said, nobody would ask for that option, since nobody knows what it means.
You clearly don’t know what you are talking about. The landing gear is commanded up once a positive rate of climb is noted and called. It’s clear in the video that they were climbing. So it wasn’t too early.
During a landing the plane descends on a downward glide slope. Quite often 3 degrees. As they approach the runway, they pull the yoke/side stick back slightly to decrease the rate of decent. Doing so makes for a smoother landing for the passengers and less wear and tear on the plane and landing gear that occurs when they don't flare and just slam into the runway.
No pilot here forgot thrust. That’s the most ridiculous comment I’ve ever heard. Spool up time on these engines is not immediate. The go around attitude is set and then hold what you got. Also, this supposed tail strike, would be an over rotation. Again, you set the takeoff attitude and hold it for liftoff. We are all well versed in exactly what attitude the tail will strike. And this is different for takeoff and landing and has some considerations including strut compression. Go arounds are done for a variety of reasons including a bounce, late touchdown etc. A go around can be executed at any time and may include touching down.
This 👆👆
100% in agreement.
Arrogant fool.
I am a Flight Simulator pilot with 5000+ hours on the B737/B747/B777/A320/A321/A330/A340 and can confirm he is right.
Hello, you smell of cat poo and dog wee. Goodbye.
Flight simulator pilot? Lol@@K1ngoDisco
Still waiting to see the elusive “Aerosucre plane takes off before runway ends.”
Pretty much any A340 with 4 hairdryers for engines!
😂😂 😂😂😂
Would that not be a normal takeoff
@sigmasssigmaboy
For a normal airline: yes, expected take off behavior
For Aerosucre: no! That would mean they did not overload the plane to the max 😂
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I love the Singapore airlines arrival music on their planes! It’s so relaxing!
Especially when they grease the landing!
Qatar Airways and Singapore Airlines the GOATs for me in terms of music
I love Singapore airlines It's a must fly in my book! Those who yet to fly em, do it. Thank me later.
The hilarity of following a clip of quite possibly the butteriest landing in history with a Ryanair level of smashdown
They didn't forget, it takes around 7-8 seconds to spool up from IDLE to Take off / go around thrust.
I think he perfectly knows that
That smooth landing was incredible, the passengers felt nothing at all.
Obviously Microsoft Flight Simulator
That landing at 1:40 was so smooth even the spoilers didn't realise the landing gear had made contact with the ground. They were like... "uugh, now? Or have we not landed yet?"
Its its literally a simulator not real life
@@Djnffnoeosmfasjjd bro what? you can clearly see various components inside the wing jiggling naturally from vibrations. Plus, the ground is way too detailed to be a simulation.
@@Djnffnoeosmfasjjd "Literally" not...
Looks like that doesn't it 😅
I had a landing exactly like that one on a Cathay A350-1000, and I found that the only way you can tell when it touched down in the clip, is from listening to the audio, you can hear the rattling or other noises of a touchdown. I will post the clip of my landing on youtube very soon, and I'll put the link here so you can see what I mean :)
@ lmao it is literally a simulator clip with real life audio played over it
Thanks for the share, that A350 go around was epic to see live! 👌
Think Planes has an alternate view of the Singapore on their 22nd Dec stream, around 2hrs 33m in. It looks like they couldn't get the nose down, initiated the go around, pulled up but risked a tail strike so lowered the nose, waited to get some more speed then proceeded with the TOGA.
It was a miserable, gusty day and the above is pure speculation.
First officer: dang, they forgot the butter on my sandwich.
Pilot: don't worry bro, I've got some.
Not really the right time to be eating?
Love the Antarctica footage.
More please!! 😁
1:55 How do you know there was no flare input? He seemed to be making a smooth landing then - bump! I think it's more likely that it was wind conditions.
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0:22 that plane landed so hard that the camera even shaked
1:28 I love the music of the arrival on Singapore Airlines. Always bring back good memories.
Why did that singapore go around tho? The landing was okay, the only thing for a go around there was a late touchdown?
He might have landed too far down the runway.
Looked like the runway was too wet, maybe hydroplaning
Possibly a training flight? Guessing.
@@gcorriveau6864the spoilers deployed. If they planned on a touch and go, they would not have armed the ground spoilers.
Outside of the landing zone on a wet runway
Handled beautifully by the 787. And the pilot correcting the error.
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merry christmas aviation lovers
Singapore Airlines, perfect day landing at SFO
Happy Holidays @3minutesofaviation and all the best for the new year!
Great videos as always... thought we were going to have a full airbus 3 mins there 😂
What is your alternate airport when flying in Antarctica
The Pacific Ocean?
Yes
Not Mt Erebus...
Back from where they came (Cape Town South Africa). FlightRadar24’s channel has released a video about it in the last week!
the alternate airport is the arctic I guess
Awesome. Merry christmas! 🧑🎄
Happy holidays!
@@3MinutesofAviation *Merry Christmas not happy holidays
well it takes a moment for the engines to spool up. i'm sure, the pilot did not forget thrust, he just smashed the throttle to TOGA and the engines took a couple seconds to go from idle to Takeoff Thrust. Also, this wasn't a Go Around, it was a rejected landing. If the plane aborts the landing above minimum (decision altitude/height) it is a Go Around, below minnimum, it's a rejected landing.
the engines take a bit to spool up from idle, probably just that delay
Normally, they land with a relatively high power setting and brakes to spool up faster. But sometimes, they look at what happens when the engines are really idle. Anyhow, it was no unsafe procedure. Sometimes one should try what happens out of prescribed procedures to tell it to the youngsters.
@@gottfriedheumesser1994 Yes but they touched down and began rolling out, they would likely have gone to idle at touchdown. Didn't engage reversers as they weren't fully committed to the landing. Most go arounds occur before touchdown/spoiler deployment.
@@holobolo1661 Have you ever heard about a touch-and-go landing? I made thousands as an instructor. Sadly, we do not know what was the intention of the flight. I don't see a cause for a go-around.
@@gottfriedheumesser1994 I have, and if they had planned to do a touch and go prior to touchdown, they would not have armed the spoilers. Cause is unknown but likely long landing or less likely but possibly a runway incursion.
@@holobolo1661 A touch-and-go landing always touches the runway like a normal landing, and after some run the plane is brought into take-off configuration and the engines are set to take-off power. You mean an abandoned landing when the plane goes around without touching the runway.
TOGA is autonomus system and plane adjusts thrust automatically. If i am not wrong.
"hey you know what would be funny?'
"what"
"we should just do a wheelie and fly off"
Just a delay in the sound, on TOGA the engines are full chat.
A350 landing was of course smooth. It's a brilliant plane
Bro you owe us ten secs of aviation 😢😢😢❤
At 2:10, was there bird nests in the wing? I noticed something weird when the speedbrakes went up
No doubt, that BA 777-200ER pilot was previously from Ryan Air 02:06
Always the best , smoothest Landings were with Singapore Airlines...maybe fifty Times.
FYI. The SQ A350 did a bulked landing, not a go around. Different procedure, more complicated, less practiced, and it looked like it was well done.
Great stuff. Thank you
Great video!
I was always a bit nervous flying into a location with an ice runway. The pilots always pulled it off nicely, though.
When a jet lands at Antarctica, where do they get fuel to take off?
Why is a 787 landing in Antarctica? Do they have scheduled flights with so many passengers?
Heathrow is always rough with the crosswinds, happens almost every time I go to London.
It is so smooth to land on the snow!
FWIW it's ice, not snow.
Wow that snow runway was something else!!!
Ice
Snow would be bad
it wasnt early pitch up thats what u are suppose to do so the plane doesnt lose its lift and it will not tail strike as we know the pitch degree to have a tail strike .
Ahem. You owe us 10 seconds of aviation.
2:20 this was actually at Troll Airfield
Didn’t the Paris airshow crash have a problem with the engines spooling up slowly?
Think it was at Basel-Mulhouse A320.
also with pilot error and airbus automation
Either the BA pilot came from "you know where" or is about to go "you know where" .
I’d like to make that Antarctic flight just for the experience. I was stationed in Alaska a little over two years. It’s not as bad as you would think.
Nice clips
I assume the dreamliner has to be fueled up to the rim when it leaves for the south pole, since it can‘t be refueled there. the plane needs to touch down at the south pole on half tanks.
If it did it would land on zero fuel assuming no winds on the way back. Not a great scenario.
@ fuel consumption on the way back will be lower, since the weight will be lower. bear in mind that it takes fuel to carry fuel.
@@TheColinChapman If you make enough ridiculous assumptions I am sure you can make it fit your ridiculous scenario. And by the way, I have 17,000hrs in command of large transport jets.🙄
Including B787 Dreamliners.🤫
@@petesmith1924 of course, an I am the living Charles Lindbergh. you make me laugh.
He didn’t forget the thrust. It takes several seconds for the engines to respond!
The pilot did not forget thrust. The spool of the engines take that long
Irish pilots are extremely experienced with that type of weather, But foreign pilots aren’t so expierienced
2:13 I would be more worried about the tree growing under the flaps than the hard landing. This thing looks like it hasnt seen any maintenance.
Perfectly normal accumulation. It'll have gone at the next full wash.
So when your car is dirty, it means that maintanance isn’t complied with? Come on now.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Do you wash your car underneath and in the engine bay? Don't be ridiculous.
Rest in peace all the passengers and crew members of Azerbaijan Airlines 😢
Where and how does the 787 taxi?
Hopefully we don't increase the number of people out there, Antarctica is a Gem. I went there by boat and returned by plane. I feel a bit guilty about it now. I'll admit, it's the Coolest thing I've ever seen.
It's a good thing to know it's the Coolest at Antarctica :D
It looks like the airbrakes were deployed which would mean the rear gear was on the ground. Is it common, or extremely rare, to see a go around when gear is on the ground? (...and not just a bounce or two).
It doesn’t happen a lot, but it does happen. As long as the thrust reversers are not deployed, they can initiate the go around.
It’s called a baulked landing. It’s rare but not unheard of. Can be executed any time before reverse thrust is deployed.
The first SA350. Was it at Manchester
how does a plane brake on snow ?
It's ice and it's quite rough, so there is friction. But the answer is, with lots of reverse thrust.
This isnt the first time ive seen this with A350 aircraft. Typically during a go around, you command it by hitting a button on the thrust levers and it pushes the trust up then you fly the flight director which only commands a pull up when the power comes up. This is the 10th video I've seen where the pilot tries to pull up prior having speed. Thats extremely dangerous. I wonder if the systems arent calibrated properly or the pilots are rushing the go around.
Looks to me like the Singapore Airlines plane landed so soft that the pilots didn’t realise the wheels were down and thought they were floating and so initiated a go around.
They know they were on the ground. 😂
Christ, the British Airways plane needs some time in a Shed and going over by work crews... Then a lick of paint. I saw one of their 777s were filthy a few months back and hoped it would be rotated out of service by now.
Seeing the wing spoilers not coming up to a uniform height was concerning
I had that same problem as Air France when I was much younger
Nice video
Someone needs to tell that Singapore pilot when your going up hill you put your foot down or in his case push the throttles full forward.
He probably hasn't achieved your level of excellence in MS Flight Sim 🙄
@@davidf6326 Take it up with the guy who posted video he is the aviation expert not you.
@@bigbang7897 I think you've completely missed my point. Not to worry.
Im actually on a singapore a350 900 right now. Getting ready for takeoff
Dont see why SIA51/2 went around. He was down with more than 2/3 runway left at MAN, thats another 7500ft left from the piano bars!
You don’t land anywhere near the ‘piano bars’ as you call them. The aiming point is 1000’ beyond the threshold, and any sort of extended flare/ float can lead to a touchdown outside the TDZ. Your ‘2/3rds’ comment is irrelevant guff. Your landing performance (calculated before you start the approach) takes all the relevant factors into consideration and gives you a landing distance for the auto brake settings available. You choose the brake setting to stop you within the required distance. That landing performance calculation is based on touching down at the correct point, with various additional factors applied. Go beyond that point and you cannot be certain where (or if) you will stop on the runway, or beyond the end of it. That’s why you go around/ perform a baulked landing.
787, 757, and A340, among many others, have flown in and out of Antarctica. It's a 4 hour flight from Punta Arenas, Chile, with no divert option except returning to Chile. So the aircrew must study the weather forecast very carefully before takeoff. The aircraft must carry enough fuel for the round trip. Fortunately the aircraft is lightweight for the return flight, with less fuel and less cargo.
The weather forecast is just to determine if it’s financially worth it to go. The flight doesn’t require any extra fuel to be brought. It’s more important to know the return airport has good weather.
Indeed the modern engine lack or required time to spool up
✈️✈️✈️ In the 1990’s I witnessed a tail strike at SFO International Airport. The aircraft involved was an L-1011, and it happened at dusk so the long trail of glowing sparks generated by the tail strike was heart stopping as it was beautiful!
The A350-900 smooth landing in KSFO @1:40....looks like they put the patented "butter" landing system from the A330 into the newer A350's.
In the real world of aviation, nobody calls it “butter”. It’s called a “greaser”. So if Airbus called it what you said, nobody would ask for that option, since nobody knows what it means.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 yes, dutchy you are correct, we have discussed this many times....nobody is going to order the "greaser" option either hahaha.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183You beat me to it!😂 Merry Christmas and looking forward to all the greaser vids in ‘25.
@@PN_48 LOL, Merry Christmas to you. And yes, looking forward to the greasers in 2025. 🤣🤣
pilot in indonesia forget landing in land,just landing at sea😂
Norse Boeing was drag-racing-skating 🤣
Jeju air….😢
FWIW that ice runway isn't unique, there are several of them across the continent, and in Greenland too.
Regardless of your airplane, nothing is as impressive as a "greased on" touchdown when you cant feel it touch.
Float plane flying requires it...
Aunt Barbara adores a late go-around 😉
That airplane totally could’ve just stayed on the ground. He was already landed
Nope, that was full thrust, you could clearly hear the engines roar
that singapore airlines geared up quite early. i think its too early
You clearly don’t know what you are talking about. The landing gear is commanded up once a positive rate of climb is noted and called. It’s clear in the video that they were climbing. So it wasn’t too early.
Life on the ocean waves!
It might take 5-6 seconds for a jet engine to spool up from flight idle!
Pitched up because the spoilers were deployed.
No it didn’t.
@@petesmith1924 oh ok it didn't. 0:27 onwards = spoilers deployed and pitch up while spooling up prior to weight off wheels.
Someone can explain clearly what is no flare means
During a landing the plane descends on a downward glide slope. Quite often 3 degrees. As they approach the runway, they pull the yoke/side stick back slightly to decrease the rate of decent. Doing so makes for a smoother landing for the passengers and less wear and tear on the plane and landing gear that occurs when they don't flare and just slam into the runway.
BA poaching cockpit crew from Aerosucre, Ryanair
Norse airlines eh?
Must be one of their more popular routes... Oslo to Antarctica! 😂
As a passenger that would be scary😂
The A350's engines take so long to spool.....
That Norse clip is like 1 year old or something
LOL... the pilot did not forget.
Plane engine took a time to actually spool up.
Do you really think plane engine just rev up like Ferrari F1 car?
You would think the exhaust of jet engines with melt the ice
Manchester, é pra lá que eu vou
I like take offs and hate landings.
Come to think of it, Antarctica has the world's longest runway
Planes need to land on hardened man-made ice strips, not just anywhere
Titled up, might take off later
1:32 that’s not an a350
Of course it is. Those winglets are so noticeable.
It is mate, winglets and wing shape tell ya
Delayed sound in video.
There's always something with Airfrance pilots.
They are terrible!
@@wadehiggins1114and they all come from the best pilot school in France 😂
Nope, there really isn’t. AF pilots are excellent.