Don’t Buy Mitas E 07 Plus Dakar Tires Before You Watch This!
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- How good are Mitas E 07 + Dakar tires? They are promoted as 60/40, 60-road, and 40 off-road, sounds like the perfect adventure tires, right? Partly, I will agree with this statement, they work well on any terrain, but they have some significant cons that you need to know before you decide to buy them or not.
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Thanks! You helped me make my decision. I was about to buy the Dakar, just because supposed to be more puncture resistant. I do not want to sacrifice grip on wet roads. So thanks!
Thank you for the info - helps a lot
Thanks for the video Pavlin!!
My pleasure!
Always enjoying your videos . Very knowledgeable, and you enjoy sharing your knowledge. Thanks 😁
My pleasure!
Thank you for all the information my friend! Be safe!!!
Any time!
That is good information.
Almost puncture proof sounds very tempting, but not if I end up on my backside in the wet..
Good one.
Safe, happy travels 👍
Yes, exactly! You have to trade one for another. Not sure about that! Thanks for taking the time, Richard!
Great videos as always! Ran the E10 Dakar on my Africa Twin in Colorado. Good traction on rocks but tread disappears quick on pavement. Ok in cold but didn’t push them hard unless off road. Trailmax Mission is current tire. Been happy and did mid Atlantic BDR with them. Not great in mud but handled everything else and made the road section home comfortable. Not in a rush to change from the Trailmax mission except for the most challenging off road stuff in CO and UT
Thanks for sharing!
I got the Mitas E07+ tyres on my Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports a month back. Upgraded from the stock Bridgestone Battalax .. these Mitas are so confidence inspiring.. loving them. The first day after the change took some time to adjust corners but now it's getting so much fun. Nice video and thank you
Thanks for taking the time, man!
Thank you Pavlin, this video was really useful, I use the Mitas E07+, maybe the third season on them and I am happy with the performance what can provide. I agree with every pro facts what you said. I had some plans to try the Dakar version, but thanks to you I stay with the standard E07+ Greetings from Transylvania #alparsmotoadventure 🤘😎
Glad to help, Alpar!
Thanks for clearing up the 3 diff mitas. Very helpfull.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Pavlin!
I hope the tyre last until Novosibirsk, with safe and as good as possible grip.
In my f800gs last around 10K with very good grip in all terrains. But the last 2k km, it was dangerous. I had no grip everywhere and thickness was almost flat.
Now i changed it with Pirelli STR, due to yours review with the stock tyre of T7.
You said that last about 16K and i found it interesting!
Have a good trip!
Excellent review of these tires. I remember watching the videos when you discussed the these tires. Thank you for your videos. 73, Mike
Any time!
I have something to do but it's always a pleasure to stay with Pavlin. Thank you for all the knowledge you pass on 2 us
I appreciate that!
Looking forward to your next trip - be safe😀
Thank you! Will do!
Great informative video! Thanks for sharing
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for this important video! Very informative. I ran the Mitas E07 Dakars on my VStrom a few years back, thought ok, but went from the OEM Battle Wing to the Mitas, naturally the bike rode much better off road. I am currently running Pirrelli's Scorpion Rally STRs. Been off road, dirt, gravel and mud. Mud, pretty slippery, dirt and gravel, not too bad, but need more time. Anyways, your video has really provided me with some good information when the inevitable tire change happens! Take care
Glad it was helpful!
I'm looking for some new tires for my vstrom as well. How did you end up finding the pirellis compared to the mitas?
Thank you, I have Mitas Dakar tyres on my bike and will have this in mind on the colder and wet days.
Great 👍
Thanks for your benefit information 👍
Any time!
Very useful Pavlin!
Glad it was helpful!
Motorcycle Adventures, your mistake was NOT in buying the E07 +, it was buying the E07+ DAKAR version which is a very hard compound for high temperature Dakar type desert racing. The standard E07+ is a fantastic tyre. As Chris Birch put it, "it is not a 50/50 tyre or a 60/40 tyre, it is a 80/80 tyre" , it is 80 per cent as good on the road as a road tyre, 80 per cent as good off-road as an enduro tyre. That is also my view of it, and also the view of many professional international off-road adventure guides like Bret Tkacs. Don't blame the E07 because you bought the wrong compound.
James, this is exactly what I said in the video. Standard is good, Dakar is not! I had and finished at least 5 sets of the standard version E-07 Plus.
@@motorcycleadventures But my friend it looked to me like you were using the E07 with the central section not the standard EO7+ which does not have the central section, or am I wrong? The EO7 with the central section stops been effective for off-road after around 2,500KMs but the EO7+ (NOT the Dakar version) remains a highly effective adventure tyre for at least double that. I use it on my 2021 KTM690 on challenging "Green lanes" in the UK on everything from greasy wet rock to deep mud and cow slurry and I can keep up with my mate (a competition rider) on a 2020 KTM250 TPI fitted with Michelin competition Enduro tyres. I admit the TC on the 690 is outstanding and it may explain why our 690's in the UK come with the EO7 as OEM but still much better than I would expect. Once I wore the central section down on I then swapped for the E07+ on the advice of Chris Birch who raves about them but I was careful to avoid the hard compound Dakar version. Hope that explains my point.
@@COM70 Yeah, for hot weather and unsealed roads probably great. It is an extra hard compound and also has thicker side walls to more puncture resistance. However I certainly would NOT use it in normal climates but the normal E07+ Enduro Trail, which unlike the E07 is a tubeless tyre which can be used with tubes is a great all round tyre. EO7 is tubed only. Confusing that there are 3 tyres called E07!
What temperature is best for e07+ and e07+ darka ? I live in country where temperature jump iinsanely
* As Chris Birch put it in paid commercial...? 😉
Top explained man. Big THX
Glad it helped!
Thanks to your video all my adventure bikes are with Mitas E-07+. Top job again, Pavlin!
Any time!
Excellent thank you Pavlin.
My pleasure!
Very important information 👍 and very well explained.,😊
I have E 07 plus on the rear and E07 on the front both standard ,on my crf 250 Rally , and I am very happy with them.
Glad it helped!
Very useful and comprehensive information. Thank you for sharing. As you say, tyres are very important. Ride safe.
Peace
Glad it was helpful!
thank you very much for this very interesting little video again ! It clarifies some uncertainties I had with my bike. In winter I did a lot revisions, maintance etc and also put new tires on, the Mitas E07 + Dakar on the rear wheel. Before I had the standard 07+ which I liked very much.
On the way home I had the feeling that bike no longer brakes at the rear wheel (I ride a 660Z without ABS). It was cold and a bit wet that day. I continued with some test rides the following days, braking became a bit better but still not good enough. I was thinking something with the brakes is wrong (I changed the fluids) but than I realized that the rear wheel was blocking very quickly and the tire was just sliding on the road.
Now I know why and that others have made the same experience.
Thank you very much for your thoughts !
I am planning a longer trip to Morocco and I usually have a unsafe feeling on wet roads anyway after a crash some time ago, so I really dont need to have the idea in my head that the tire is not reliable on wet / cold roads - I definitely will take that tire off again !
I have another brand new tire in my garage which is the Mitas E07 (without the +) - do you have experience with that tire ? I have never tried that and purchased the tire by error, but am not sure if I should try it on that longer tour now.
Important for me is a reliable grip on wet roads, possibility to go on gravel roads in Marocco and at least 8000km milage.
Thanks for you help !
Pete
Hi Pete, go to Mitas E-07 Plus non-dakar version. It will give you everything you need + 8-9000km. The E-07 without a plus will last longer, because of the center rubber line it has, but the traction is not that good as + version. Good luck on your trip!
@@motorcycleadventures thanks, just ordered 😁
Good!
Very good information....i like the real world explanation and truth in your review....thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Perfect assessment of the two styles. I run the standard version and it's fantastic, the perfect compromise tire, for me.
Totally agree!
very helpful chief!!
Good!
I had Mitas E07 and loved them on the rear but on the front they lacked the grip on very wet green lanes and grass. I changed to the Anakee wilds front and back and feel a lot more confident on it especially in winter months when I decide to take an off-road detour😋 They are still good on the road too and wear well.
Wet grass is a problem even for serious off road tires.
Long time since the last vid I watched on this channel. Nice to see the upgrade, from a Ténéré 600 to a T7. This guy knows how to choose good bikes
Thanks!
Interesting review. I had this tyre on my crf1000 and they were excellent everywhere except for mud. No vibration and good tarction in pouring rain.
Thanks for sharing!
I had these (EO7+ non-Daker version) on my 790 adventure R and I raved about them through the spring and summer until the autumn came and the temperatures dropped. As the man says, they are poor in the cold and wet, (no confidence and multiple front and rear slides) so much so that I removed them and fitted Dunlop Trailmax Meridian for my recent tour of Scotland in the snow and ice which were brilliant. I'll refit the EO7's in the spring when things warm up.
Thanks for sharing!
I agree about the stiff tires. It is fun to try all tires and have an opinion. For smaller bikes the Tusk DS tires are extremely cheap last long time but a bitch to mount. On bigger bikes, depends on where you are going what tires to use. K6 is great because is last long time. but by he end you wish it would wear out so you could put a nice handling tire on. My friends love the E07, I haven't tried one yet. And if you have a lot of money and access to new tires frequently the TKC80 is lovely. Nice video, hold on to that wild bike while you wear out those tires.
Thanks for taking the time, Jon!
Great video, thank you! I run the EO7+ Dakar version on all three wheels of an Africa Twin Hack (sidecar) Rig. Most of my riding is in the desert southwest USA. I go through rear tires pretty quickly; front and hack wheels last forever. All are the same size, custom rims 150/70-18.
I ride a mix of asphalt and dirt, with the dirt usually extremely rocky, with sharp shards of rocks from road graders splitting bigger rocks embedded in the clay. I have been exceptionally happy with the puncture resistance. Two separate occasions riding buddies lost Conti TKc80 and Michelin M6 tires to 30mm rock cuts in the center of the tread. The Eo7+ Dakars rolled over them, with some cuts in the rubber, but nothing through the cords, no air loss.
I tend to run the rears down to the cords; I cut one up to measure, and found that there is still 8mm of rubber/cords in the center of the tread area, once the cords are exposed. Kind of nice to know when pushing it a little to get home on a trip!😁
Thanks for sharing!
hey thanks for that... I've been a long time "fan" of the E-07+... (also on the T700) ... recently was tempted to swap them for the Dakar, because of the 20% increase in mileage... however your experience on wet/cold tarmc is exactly what I was looking for ... as unfortunately this is something I've got a lot here... so at least for the colder seasons I'll stick with the non-dakar.
Glad to help!
I agree totally with you mate. You cannot compromise and trust in a tire just for its life. Even on errands around town or a long trip, in my opinion, you have to make sure about its handling ability on and off road in any weather situation.
Thanks for taking the time, man!
I'm very happy with Mitas E07 + (normal Version). Did buy them once again. Thanks for your information regarding the Dakar Version.
Glad to help!
I have EO7 + enduro and they work great for me in the uk 🇬🇧 as half the time it is raining but was thinking about the dakar version glad I didn't now great video and thanks for the info 👍
Glad to help!
Fantastic info thankyou.
I have been just looking at new tyres for my Husky 701 which I use as an adventure bike here in New Zealands South Island. I had been considering the EO-7 Dakar for protection against shatp rocks .
Bit no , after yout video I will go with the + version as cold wet bitumen performance is a requirement .
Have subscribed due to the quality of your info.
Cheers
Glad it was helpful!
Have run the E07+ on my 1200gs for 5 years now, on the whole i really like them as a all round compromise between road and off road. they last really well, however they can be a handfull in the wet, particularly if there's surface water on the tar seal, they love to hydroplane, which isnt one of my favorite handling characteristics. they are also very difficult to keep air in them. however still my favorite tyre for the bike for all types of conditions and terrains. I also like how if you choose to push them hard on tar seal, they give you plenty of feel on what they are going to do.
I recently put a bridgestone A41 battle Ax on the rear and kept the E07+ on the front. obviously lost a lot of rear traction for off road, but with the E07 on the front the, bike still goes where i point it off road, you just have to carry a bit more momentum to make up for the lack of traction in the rear, however on the tar seal the bike is 50% better than when running E07 all round. really enjoy this combination on the old GS now.
Thanks for sharing!
Very helpful thank you. I also love the e07+ tyres but was considering the dakar version for longevity when it comes time to replace, but poor performance on cold wet roads would rule them out for me.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the good advice. My experience with TKC80 was ok but the tyre did not last long.
I then had Mitas and was very happy.
I only wish that Mitas had a rear tyre for my NC700X
Thanks for sharing!
Very informative video as always.
I was looking to Mitas, but there are a lot of conserns in chats that they become very slippery in novadays.
I have now Metzeler Karoo 3 very goot on dirt roads, but very noisy and vibrating on tarmac.
Now I try Metzeler Tourance.
Glad it was helpful!
Good Video , I had the E-07+ on my R1200 Gs and they were great , hard to install buy nothing compare to Dunlop trail Max Mission .
recently got one for my CRF1100 for the rear because the Dunlop was not available and I got what they had in stock the Dakor version.
Did not have the vibration problem that you had but after one year it seem that the rubber dried up and because I seal my tube type rim I am lousing air all around the rim . I plan on using a tire sealer to stop that because the tire is still good for at least 6000 more km.
Thanks for sharing!
Looking forward to the videos from your new trip. Just watched "Long Way Round" with Ewan McGregor doing a very similar trip in 2004..
Cannot wait to start.
I have the E07 enduros on my Super Ten. They do great in the dry, I can touch down pegs if I want. But they do have a little of the folding feeling when pushing that hard. Its okay in the rain, but I do not push in rain. Loose gravel is fine, until you try to add some throttle spinning the rear up, it tends to kick to one side. Medium and hard sand/dirt is okay, has almost the same kick out issue, but not as pronounced. Soft sand is no good, but I am on a big ol heavy girl. Mud same thing, and the center rib, though great on the road, is horrible on mud and soft sand. Seems to last a decent bit, I about 4000 miles on them. maybe another 4K to go. Ride a mix of urban and highway speeds to commute, and off road 3 or so days a month for a few hours at a time. Off road is full mix terrian.
Did a TET trip for a few weeks 2 years ago with these tires. From Netherlands to Belgium, France, Swiss. I think I did 4500 KM.
If I remember correctly I put e07+ in the front and the normal e07 in the back. I made this decision back then because of the weight of the bike. (xt660R).
I chose the M/S tire.
First few 100 km the rear wheel was very loud and driving on the road was not so good.
But after it was worn in (500km or so), I just loved these tires for mixed driving.
I was able to attack the twisty's and mountain passes with a fully packed bike. Wet and cold was no problem.
When driving offroad they had a lot of grip and gave a lot of confidence especially because of the outer nob on the side of the tire that grips up when sliding.
I even drove it on rough ice on a frozen lake, doing pretty good.
I have a lot of videos I could upload testing the limits of the tire on-and offroad if someone is interested.
There is one short video on my channel but that's slow speed.
If i would do a 50/50 road offroad trip again, I would without a doubt choose this tire again.
Mounting them was my worst experience and I wouldn't even try it again.
The sidewall was so strong if you would have a flat you could probably carefully drive it to a tire shop. (no experience on this)
I do remember I liked to ride this tire with a bit lower tire pressure then I did with normal road tires.
This is different than Dakar version.
I just bought the 07+ and I was also considering the Dakar version. Glad I didn’t get them. I agree on changing them. Did the front yesterday and it was brutal :/ tomorrow I will change the back and I think it will be even harder
It is what it is! Good luck with the tire change tomorrow!
Thank you.
Any time!
i am using Mitas E09 and E07 for the last 15 years...dozens of sets wasted so far....from my experience, Mitas E0X series were excellent by ratio performance vs price....where the set was a bite more then half price of the best one Conti TKC80, but now, the price set of E0X came like 10%cheaper then TKC80 so my next tire set will be for sure, leaving Mitas for good....anyway, my experience on Dakar tire was, 80km ride on flat tire with my wife sitting behind me....driving 50-60kmh speed with no problem, but cornering at max 20kmh....and we came back home safely....after patching the inner tube, i ride it for another 10.000km with no problems.....only problem was disassembling the tire...it was a living hell to take it off....3 long bars needed plus 2 hooks....i was sweating like a pig till i made it :)))
Thank you for the nice review of these tyres. Tyres just for Dakar, ok, but I prefer reliable traction on the tar, so I'll look at the Mitas E07 Plus Standard tyre, or the Michelin Anakee Wild.
Trees and rocks don't move, cars, trucks, ...etc. do, so that's where the highest risk is for me.
Glad to help!
Another comment regarding your issue. Just lower the tire pressures, see if that helps ( you can do that safely because of the stronger sidewalls ). It will let the tire warmup, more flex, more contact to the road. Also, ask the shop to remove them, put tire heater on, then mount them again. I had no issues on my 1190R with the Dakar version frond nor rear, but I think the 1190 is a bit more heavy compared to your Tenere. I could do 200km/h+ easily, no whobble nor vibrations... Anyways within 2 weeks my 2023 890R should arrive and I noticed in Belgium at least, the bike is shipped with "Mitas Enduro trail", they look a lot like E07's, fingers crossed, I hope they don't disappoint.
I tried the pressure already. Did not help at all.
I was wondering if TL would make difference. I see Mitas is OE on KTM. OE tires usually suffice for most conditions. I see some people calling up a countries tire distributor to find their favorite tires which seems a bit extreme.
I have the mutas e07 + on my tenere and rhey work great for every where I ride I am happy with the them have nearly 1000 miles on them and still look new
Fair enough!
Thanks for the timely advice. I have just recently completed a sealed road trip from the west coast of Australia to Melbourne on the east coast, on my Super Tenere 1200, loaded with panniers and camping gear. I fitted a new set of Mitas EO7+ (standard) prior to departure as I planned to use some dirt roads on the way. Weather changes meant the dirt didn't happen, so it was bitumen roads all the way, much of it in warm 30C+ conditions. I am more than pleased with the wear of the tyres, still about 30% left after nearly 8000 km at 110 kph+. I will be doing the same trip later this year to Tasmania (using the ferry obviously !) and will fit the same tyres to the T7. The 60Kg less should give me even better kilometres, but I am wondering exactly what pressures you were running in your Dakar versions ? I previously ran Motoz Tractionator GPS on the SuperTenere, and whilst I got good reasonable traction front and rear off road, the front was too much vibrations thru the bars on the bitumen so was glad to get rid of it.
I tried all possible pressure, did not help at all.
Thanks
This info is very useful for me. I was looking to put the E-07+. Now I know what pitfalls to avoid
Glad it was helpful!
@@motorcycleadventures I'm moving from an 80/20 tyre metzeler tourance to this. Hope it works out
I put the standard E-07s on my KLR, and they were difficult to mount. It wore me out. I ruined 2 inner tubes in the process. I think they are designed to be tubeless tires. So far I like them a lot. I can feel the tread when on the road but it's not bad. they don't grip to well in grass. I was riding on the side of hill with knee high grass and the rear end kept sliding down hill till I finally turned uphill and climbed up to the trail.
It is what it is!
Thank you for telling your honest experience!
TBH, I never tried Mitas tyres on my road bike, never trusted that brand... On CRF300, I will think twice...
Fair enough!
I have just fitted the Mitas E07 + Dakar, i ordered the standard but got the bike from the shop with the Dakar fitted and i have been trying to figure out what the vibration was, i have them on my KTM 790 ADV off road they where great on the road the front is a little vague but maybe its me and the rear besides the vibes grips well and seems to be good, i live in hot dry climate for most of the year so should be ok, but thanks for the video i now know its not only me and you saved me taking the bike to the tire shop for a refitting which i was about to do.
Glad to help!
Very good info / comparison , tkc 80s are nice , but very soft and wear out in 2000 miles .
They last 8-9000km with my style of riding.
The Dakar versions have stronger sidewalls. ( that is why on the trail, with tire levers they are a nightmare ). I had the E07 Dakar on my 1190R and when I went to the shop for mounting them, I had to wait longer only because of the tire. Even though they mounted the tires with a machine, they still needed to put tire heaters on them so that they became more flexible. If you know you're about to do a rocky terrain and you don't want to worry about sidewall ruptures, the E07 Dakar tires are the ones to get.
Yes, they will serve well on the rocky terrain, but on what cost?
@@motorcycleadventures if you give them the same pressures as the normal E07 they will feel less capable. I put almost 1 bar less in them compared to the normal E07, and my bike was more heavy with more HP, so I think I got them warmer a little faster ( never using TC anyways ). But indeed, harder compound does not go hand in hand with better traction. I would play with the pressures a little more, maybe you will like them more. Maybe lower starting with 0.5 bar. If you go too low, and you brake in the corners on the road, your bike will start to feel out of control, that means you went too low :) The 1190R had cornering ABS, but still I could notice when it was too low.
I have tried, no difference.
TKC80 fronts and Mitas E07 rears was my go to combo until no more TKC80's were available so that made me look elsewhere , ive settled on Motoz Dual Venture front and Motoz Tractionator Adv rears , i think they offer close to the same performance on road maybe even a slightly better off road and much longer life
I had the Dakar version on AT. Didn’t have any issue whatsoever on road nor off road. I know they are not great in mud but I had no issue in most water crossings but went slow and all was good. Of course I’m mot riding in Chris birch capacity so maybe they will not be great if you go really wild but for the average rider it is a good one. Never had a flat on it and didn’t bother to replace it myself.
Thanks for sharing!
Now..... that was a perfect example of FREEDOM! Gotta love it.!
Good!
I had the Dakar, but it wears out just too fast for my wallet.
If you get a chance, try the Dunlap Trailmax Raid tires. The Mission was a long wearing tire that hooked up really well, except in deep sand/deep mud. Dunlap claims they fixed this. I would ride them, but I'm laid up with a separated should, broken hand, and sprained wrist and knee. Ride them for me!
Good Theme.
Thanks, man!
I've mounted them on my Africa twin 3 weeks ago for my Thailand trip totaling 6500km. The tires do feel stiff and vibey for the first 500km but they became as natural as the Shinko 804/805 i had before. They handled well when I did the Mae Hong Son loop
Thanks for sharing!
@@motorcycleadventures i have them on my 21 Africa twin. I lowered the tire pressure to 25psi they feel really good. butt i live in Texas there its a hotter climate.
Hope you enjoyed your ride and time here in newzealand 😊
I did!
@@motorcycleadventures great😁😁😁😁😁
A wonderful country you have!
@@motorcycleadventures thank you 😁
I've just replaced my rear Dakar E07+. It's done about 8000 miles and still has around 25% tread. Replaced it like for like as have had zero issues with it in the UK. Changing it was a mission though that involved a lot of swearing. Did it only using trail tools so that I know I can do it if I absolutely had to.
Thanks for sharing!
thank you
Welcome!
I have run the standard E07’s on my GS and really liked them.
I have also read about how the Dakar versions of this tire were a harder compound and carcass and how people were having problems with them in wet and cold weather so I stayed away from them.
Thank you for confirming this.
Really enjoy your videos…!
Glad to help, Ray! Thanks for taking the time!
I just ordered Motoz Rally will be trying them after my stock ones wear out.
Thanks for sharing!
Pavlin, I'm using Mitas E-09 Dakar on my bike - but i using it because of extreme hard carcass. even without air in tire I'm quite sure that i will reach some civilization. Of course, it's a clear trade - tire is so stiff that i don't even try to change it by myself. What always wonder me, it's that all are so happy with E-07. I have mounted it and was disappointed. My perfect set "to go" is MT21 front and E09 rear. Currently i also testing Mitas E13 front. Looks promising.
There is no one universal tire. E 09 is more dirt oriented. Thanks for taking the time and sharing your experience!
@@motorcycleadventures fully agree. Simply after all these positive reviews I have expectet some amazing things from E07 :) Now I simply know that E09 suit me better. Like you have sayed many times in your videos - there is no one ultimate bike, one ultimate tire or one ultimate recipe for adventure.
Thanks for taking the time and watching my videos, Dawid!
Funny how differently people see things. I had a set of TKC 80's on a Vstrom and I wasn't happy. First off as #1 EXPENSIVE, #2 The front tire was 19" and the tread pattern is very different than the 21". This tire, and I have had many different types, was down right scary! It always felt like you were riding on marbles in any kind of off pavement situation. It was decent on pavement. #3. The rear tire I loved for how it handled on my low powered Vstrom 650. I could spin the tires and the round shape made it easy to drift around corners. However with my preferred riding style I ruined a rear in one day of hard riding. Chunks were coming out of it the size of a dime. There was nothing left of it in all actuality in 3 hrs of riding it hard. Mitas are my tires of choice. I use the E-07 and E-09s. However I pretty much can't stand pavement riding. I will save that for when I am 90. So the on road slipperiness, which I have never felt, won't affect me. But they work great offroad.
Thanks for sharing!
Tyres are a compromise. And you have to know a lot about yourself, your riding style and the available tyres in order to find the right one. I prefer Heidenau K60 Scout on my Transalp 600, because they are a perfect compromise. Good in the wet, good in the winter, good offroad, good on asphalt, longlife and feeling good on twisty roads. But they are not worldbeaters in any one of these disciplines. This you have to know. As you said, Pavlin, performance is more important than long life, I completely agree. Take that Dakar tyre off. All the best, Günter/Nürnberg
Thanks for sharing your experience, Günter!
Totally agree. I also use the scout on my Xt600. Easily come along in the Ardennes with my friends on Choppers and Nakes. Can easily take some sand/gravel roads. But they'll (and my Motorcycle) will be horrible on an True enduro trail or on any Circuit with these k60 tires!
@@gorkzop There is a limit to any tyre. For easy roads and tracks the Heidenau Scout is a really good tyre. Cheers, Günter/Nürnberg
mitas is a compromise, along with heidenau and shinko.
@@csmanul every tire is, there is no tire great on asphalt that's also great off road. There's no tire with great longevity that's glued to the asphalt.
I have the E12 on the rear of my T7 . . maybe a bit too much for my riding (mostly roads) but when off roading it is great. Been thinking of E07+ for when this one wears out. Definitely not a Dakar one though 🙂
Good! Glad to help!
Thanx for good review. What microphone do you use?
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I had normal E07+ tires on my R1200GS LC, they lasted 7000km. Now I installed a E07+ Dakar rear tire, it has 12000km aready and likely will last 5000km more. I didint had any trouble with wet pavement, and I just rode 12 hs and 1000km in the rain with them, and never lost traction, not even in gravel roads, but also it was relatively hot here at 15-20 C.
Thanks for sharing!
Had on my bike both of them.....Dakar and normal version.....As you said the Dakar is not so good on wet tarmac, but it least longer :) So if you ride in some dry part of the world, go for it...otherwise mount the normal 07+ :) About the noise.....never noticed on my ST1200
Thanks for sharing!
My set up was the same …softer compound TKC for better traction and grip at the front and harder compound Mitas 07 in the back.
Thanks for sharing!
Well Traktion with the asphalt is most important issue for me. So I'm looking for non Dakar Version. Thanks for the video.
Glad to help!
Ran E07 Dakar rear paired with a shinko 804/805 front on a rally raided cb500x. Great set up for on and off road. Only issue I had was the weight of the tire on a mid size bike like the cb led to noticeably slower acceleration.
Thanks for sharing!
Dude I'm looking at putting a E07 plus on the rear of my cb500x and a anakee wild on the front .how did the tyres behave with your combo?,how was the drop in? How did the E07 cope with muddy green lanes with the shinko front??.
I liked onomatopels you made!Talking about the tires and the rear..kkkkkk But it's fine there!
Fair enough!
At the moment i am in Andalusia , preparing myself for a Rallye. I am using the E 09 which also have a extremly strong carcass but much bigger nobbys then the E07. They are running smooth and wonderful also on tarmac (i rode about 3000 km from germany to reach andalusia) . Of course they dont last very long (every two weeks i need a new one) But what i wanted to say is maybe you got an unlucky tire which had some problems while made in the factory. Another thing aboutthe super heavy carcass : If you have a flat tire, just ride on and fix the puncture when you are back home. The tire will make it.
I am not the only one that talk about this problems with E-07 plus Dakar
@@motorcycleadventures sorry, for disturbing you.. I thought that my comments are in some point useful for you. But I am ok with stop writing on your channel. 🙂 safe rides
Tanks, man.
I like your accent, especially when you say: 'and if you have nothing to do '.... 😂
My pleasure!
I have a 1290 Super Adventure and have the Dakar version. I live in Arizona and I think the Dakar is an amazing tire for where I live. 130mph, zero vibrations.
Thanks for sharing!
@@motorcycleadventures Добре дошъл бате!
Ben de Mitas aldım ve çok memnunum
I'm taking a new try to visit Varna as I promised the end of last year. Leaving in 3 weeks.. gonna visit Italy, Greece etc. before Bulgaria but want to visit Varna and the Black sea soon enough this springtime.
If your schedule will allow it it would be an honor to take a ride with you Pavlin if and when I eventually make it there for a visit.
You could also take a test ride with my new CRF300L fully kitted out with Rally-Raid suspension etc. It's touring with me in my campervan :)
Sounds like a great journey. Contact me at least a day before your visit and we can meet each other around.
@@motorcycleadventures Will do!
Good!
I have the same tires (front and rear) and I am on over 6,700 km on it and never had these issues!!!!
I use it on road about 70% and off road 30%
I've used them on sand, mud, and typical off-road roads and back country roads.
I've used them on rain, heavy rain, on roads while sandstorms, on very windy (50km+ wind speed), and on dry roads. Never had any issues!
BTW, I live in KSA
Dakar version, with yellow stripe?
@@motorcycleadventures - I've replied two times but didn't show! Maybe because I included links in my reply! Anyway,
Yes, the DAK version with the yellow stripe
I got them from the tradeinn website:
- MITAS E-07+ DAK 59T TL Trail Tire Black 110 / 80
- MITAS E-07+ DAK 69T TL Trail Tire Black 150 / 70
BTW, over 120-125 km/h I feel vibration
I use them on my old TransAlp for years. We use pretty similar tire in Czech/Slovakia for small tractors :) Maybe worth of mention, that these tires are very noisy on the road ....
The noisy is fine, but the traction is not!
Hello Pavlin,
I am riding E07+ on my T7 since 20k km
I wanted to buy the Dakar version.
I will not.
Thanks to this video 😉
Glad to help!
20.000km one set of tyres?!
Fitted a Mitas E07+ Dakar version to front of my R1200GSA ended up riding it 100km after hitting a rock before I noticed it was flat. Strong sidewalls saved the day.
Thanks for sharing!
I've had an E07+ Dakar on the back of my KTM for thousands of miles here in the UK...no complaints about tyre balance or wet grip. It's outlasting the E07 on the front.
Interesting!
I have the Mitas E07 + Dakars on my Bmw r1200 GSA I HAVE 9,200 miles on them the front will go at least another 5,000 miles the rear I am going to replace at 10,000 miles it’s not even close to the wear bars ,I have a new rear siting in my garage ready to go on. most of the miles have been on pavement some dirt not much ,I ride year round and ride in the rain a lot and have had no issues in wet weather at all ,just careful of painted surfaces railroad tracks etc they were easy to mount and balance in my garage with the hand tools I carry on my bike (exp for the balancer) no vibration at all the only downside is because of the thicker sidewall the bike has a stiffer ride love these tires.
Fair enough!
I was a bit curious about this tyre, as i was considering it to my Ténéré. Anyway, i took some TKC80, and out of the box is a bit strange. The bike simply gets really sensible to steering input, coming from Metzeler Tourance (quite different tyres). After something like 400km's igot used to it and it was ok. Great off-road, good on-road (despite being a 50-50 or some would even say, 60-40 off-on road), but that came with a cost. Front is ok, but rear wear is high. Thst rubber is really soft. Anyway, i love them. About to change tyres again, and probably will choose them again
Always pros and cons!
Had a pair on my 09 gsa, never had any issues
Good!
Try Bridgestone Battlax AX41 nobbly tyre, like TKC 80 but longer lasting, new Dunlop Trailmax Raid look awesome too!
I'll check it out, but always prefer to have what I know very well.
Hi Pavel ! I have an xt660z like your old lady, I was thinking of the mitas E07+ Dakar but with this video i'm still in doubt. I'm riding in south france no rain. And do twisty roads, gravel roads, rocks . So is the Dakar versionbetter for me ? Thanks
Thanks Pavlin. I ride Pirelli STR on highways over 150 kp/h and taking curves pretty hard (KTM 790 aADV). It does not perform well in sand mud or wet grass. I consider buying the MITAS E07 PLUS DAKAR and not sure -thanks to you:). I ride in high temperatures (over 30 Celsius) on asphalt and off-road on trail with sharp rocks and stones. The question is how does it function in these conditions - without water or cold?
It is fine.
I had the exact same issue on my suzuki dl1000 v-strom, fine in the dry and on gravel, but on wet cold roads they were terrible, abs cutting in all the time and wheel spin when overtaking.... scary stuff!
Thanks for sharing!