*100% best **Generater.Systems** I have used. A test for hurricane prep here in Louisiana: three AC units, 5000, 5000 & 8000, 3 fridges, 2 device power setups, 4 flat screens....AND I had 40% of the power meter to spare.*
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Insightful. If any of your subscribers are thinking about the Predator they may note that Harbor Freight's Black Friday price is going to be $679. Also a magazine whose name begins with "Consume..." and ends with "Reports" recently rated the Predator brand about equally favorable compared to the Honda. Thanks for sharing another slice of real life!
Thanks for sharing that Black Friday Price with everyone! Thats pretty impressive to be rated by that magazine as comparable to the much more expensive Honda.
Thanks for this video. I'm watching a bunch of 'em preparatory to a run into Cheyenne tomorrow. Harbor Freight emailed a 10% off coupon today and whenever a winter storm knocks out the power we'll have juice to run the gas furnace. Seems prudent and in keeping with the good example of our Mormon neighbors.
Snow! Living in central NC...I get excited when I see snow (which has been a pretty rare event here in recent years). Thanks for this video review...I've been eyeing the Predator 3500 for both an emergency backup at home (keep the fridge and freezer going during power outages) as well as a potential future travel trailer partner. Hearing good things from someone I trust is very helpful in making that decision! BTW, a 10db difference is generally stated to be double the perceived sound loudness (psyco-acoustic level)...so that's a big deal. But I have to admit, I was expecting to see a puppy today!!
LOL I think everyone was expecting a puppy video. We hadn't had her long enough to get good footage of her. We definitely will work her into this weeks midweek update video. I like having the Predator at home as well. I have an electric wood splitter and the Generac won't run it but the Predator does just fine.
Great video, good info about the Harbor Freight unit. Also I appreciate your audio! A little bumper music for the intro and at the end. The rest of the time I could hear what you had to say 'cause you weren't drowning it out with some tunes, like so many amateurs here on YT insist on doing. Bravo!
Silly me, I was out working on the chicken coop listening to every HF predator 3500 generator review/mod/test/mangle video I could find and must have been ‘pocket writing’ a comment. I purchased a 3500 generator a couple days ago and have been researching the best upgrades (iridium spark plugs, magnetic oil dipstick, re-jetting to lean it out a bit, airflow for cooling, magical oil...., etc..) and am impressed with all the wisdom everyone shares. It’s my first generator and am making the best attempt at learning from other’s mistakes before making my own inevitable doozies.
The PREDATOR weighs 130# with gas & oil. The 100# weight mentioned several times by Patrick is the DRY weight of the generator. You need to figure you will NOrMALLY be lifting well over 100#. Gas weighs approximately 8# per gallon, a full gas tank of 2.5 gallons adds 20# to the generator's weight.
@@azclaimjumper -> Like I mentioned above, even though I plan on having mine bolted to the floor of my utility trailer I like the weight. It is just another theft deterrent. :-)
Predator 3500, Loncin LC3500i, Chicago Pneumatic CPPG3i, Powerhorse 3500, BE13500L3500, Echo Bearcat IG3500E, Campeon LC3500i, Anteng AT3500i are all the same generator. Note that Echo, one of the most trusted names in power equipment, is among them. If you should need parts for your predator you can get them from Pillar Equipment in Silvis, Illinois. They are an Echo part supplier.
Great video and noise level comparison . I watched many videos about the Predator 3500 before deciding .. yes I purchased the Predator 3500 over a year ago . I'm very happy with it and have not used it in an emergency situation yet .. no long term electrical outages as I type . The price and running wattage was a selling point for me . I'm using it as a backup for that day I need it for long term usage . I'm also planning to use it in a cargo trailer or travel trailer ( TAB 400) to travel with . I haven't purchased a TAB 400 yet but have seen 2 at 2 different dealership . Good Luck with your Predator 3500 great choice !
Excellent, informative, coherent video, as usual, Patrick. I've read all the replies before composing mine. 1. To emphasize what Patrick said; online reviews for the Predator are an overall FAVORABLE consensus. You might want to consider keeping an NKG replacement spark plug on hand for the Predator, in fact, several reviewers said the first thing they did was pull the spark plug out of the Predator & replace with an NKG brand plug. 2. I especially liked you took your decibel reading from the muffler side of the generators. As quiet as the Predator is, it is even quieter from any other direction away from the muffler. 3. in terms of weight, Patrick, I'd like to "add" that the Predator weights more like 125#+ when you consider a full tank of gas (20#) + oil + the Predator (100#+) = 125# 4. I wish you'd demo'd starting the cold Predator with the hand pull start & then the electric start. 5. I'd recommend SeaFoam instead of StaBil for fuel stabilizer for both generators based on the following article: weingartz.com/expert-advice/2017/01/fuel-stabilizers-sta-bil-or-sea-foam/ 6. I am a Honda 2200i owner.....FWIW Keep your eye on your mailbox, I've some goodies for you that are in a small bubble wrap envelope that are on their way as of Tuesday, 13 Nov.
Thank you for all the added points! I really appreciate your feedback for not only me but for others that will read them. I love using SeaFoam in our vehicles. I will have to try the hand pull on the Predator...I honestly haven't tried it yet.
Thank you for the comparison. I think its only a matter of time till Honda sales start to slip due to Harbor Freight and other who are making quality affordable generators. The one upgrade to make right away is change out the cheap HF spark plug that comes with the Predator to a high quality plug like NGK. At 100 lbs it is a bit heavy but still lighter than the Honda. With a quality spark plug and the extended warranty I think Predator is solid choice.
Thank you Patrick, I have a generator on my big ticket list along with a cover. I have been looking at generator reviews and it is like shopping for and auto. it is so hard to decide. This will help my decision for a backup for the house when the power goes out. We had 6 inches of snow last night and expect more tonight. the high temperature today is 17 degrees. you have to you New York in the fall.
I'm wondering how many viewers click the "like" button even before they see the video? Lol! Nice review Patrick! Great way to test that new mic - over generator noise! That really is super quiet..you're really good at finding the best deal for the money! (I'll just always have to boondock with you guys, that's heavy! Lol!) Safe and happy travels and see you #ondowntheroad 💜
I'm always amazed how quickly the view count goes up after I make it live. That new mic is great it appears. I didn't hear any wind noise which I always get with just the iPhone mic. Looks like it and the indoor light were good investments. You can boondock with us anytime you like!
GREAT REVIEW! I can get the Generac at wholesale price (I know someone) & I recently listened to a Predator 8750 because it is currently on sale for $499.00. But it was LOUD! I don't need 8,000 watts let alone 3500 to run my portable Climate Right Heat/AC unit for my rooftop tent, but because the Predator 3500 iis so quiet? I'll pay a lil extra! Thanks to your review, that is the one I am going with. Thank you! SUBSCRIBED!
So far we have been very happy with ours. Obviously we don't know if it will hold up for the long haul but its done a great job this winter around the house. We've had the power go out a few times and I have used it to power some things here in the house.
Thanks for another excellent video. Looked at Harbor Fright before. Really not sold on any of their products. I will stay tuned for another video/review after you have used it. I will check out additional reviews. Thanks
Hi Patrick, great video as always. I have heard nothing but good things about the Predator. The sound difference you showed is considerable. I often find the tone of the engine also makes a difference. On a side note...that scary white stuff on the ground behind you is quite concerning. Stay safe.
Can you believe snow already! YIKES! Luckily it looks pretty where we live so that makes it a bit more bearable. Its these cold temperatures that I really dislike.
I have the Harbor Freight Predator 8750. I have been using it for 2 years. I run it about 2 weeks a month. Pretty wide open running equipment. I’ve had very few issues, I had to change out the on/off switch, that’s it. Did it myself, very easy to do. It was $9.00 off EBay. Also I service it approx every 50 hours.. change oil.. clean filters. Also I only use ETHANOL FREE fuel, as per my landscapers advice, for small air. Oiled engines. I highly recommend Harbor Freight Predator generators.
I love the Predator and have a few videos on it myself. The real key is in the proper startup and break in of the Predator, do it right and you won't have problems but do it wrong and you can destroy it pretty quickly. Mine runs my entire 32' 5th wheel including my 15k a/c unit.
@@2old4allthis From the manual: Breaking-in the Engine will help to ensure proper equipment and Engine operation. • The break-in period will last about 30 hours of use. • DO NOT exceed 75% of the Generator’s running wattage during this period. • Change the engine oil after this period.
1- get the $8 magnetic dip stick on amazon. 2- use regular Dino oil for the first 3-4 oil changes (no synthetic for the first 30 hours) 3- watch TH-cam videos on how to change the oil 4- change oil at 1 hour, 4 hours, and then 15 and 30 hours. Cleaning the dipstick of metal shavings often. 5-try to vary throttle and load not exceeding 75%, but not 0% either 6- watch TH-cam video on cleaning exhaust spark arrester and clean WHEN needed. 7- ENJOY knowing you have taken care of the motor and proper break in. *-consider the NGK spark plug upgrade as well as charcoal canister delete mod.
Something to take into consideration when comparing generators sound levels is whether they are inverter or standard models. Inverter generators generally much quieter than the open frame standard generator models.
Great compare and contrast! You helped me make a decision about that Harborfreight generator. Your video productions have really come a long way! Good use of cutaways to cover cuts in the storyline. Only suggestion, get a lav wired or wireless mic - your information is too good to be lost due to background noise. It’s the cheapest improvement any film maker can make.
Thank you John! We actually just added a new Rode external mic and this was the first video shot with it. I'm not sure any mic would have captured me talking over that Generac generator. I appreciate your kind words and feedback!
The Rode shotgun is great for ambient stuff and indoor shooting where there's not a lot of background noise - they also have a new wireless rig that's quite good. The secret with Lav mics is to get them as close to your Adam's Apple. What the Lav mic will allow you to do is have a louder VO to background noise ratio which means your overall mix volume can be louder. It's a continual learning process!
Thank you Patrick . I was curious about the harbor freight brand. Honda is very expensive as well a yamaha so I will be interested in your test of the predator. Thank you
Another great video, thanks! I'm puzzled though: why measure the sound level 25' away? I don't see how to set a generator 25' from an RV without being in another RV pad's space. Wouldn't it be interesting to (maybe also) get a measurement from right next to it, or perhaps 5' away? Thanks!
+csktx Most generator tests to rate decibel levels are done at a distance of 23’-25’. So when you see a company post a rating, it’s usually from those distances.
csktx - Many campers (like myself) enjoy boondocking on BLM land. Most of the time you won't see another camper for miles. Therefore having it 25 feet away (the most common extension cord length) will make it seem even more quiet being that far away from your campsite. ;-)
FYI EVERYONE WHO HAS HARD TIME RESTARTING THE PREDATOR 3500 WHEN ITS HOT OUTSIDE... All you have you have to do is remove the gas cap and it will start right up. Just needs to vent. Somehow it took me almost two summers to finally figure this out lol
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I have a Generac iQ2000 which I love and it has lots of bells and whistles to tell you everything about it's running operation and is a lot quiter then that one. That said it will not run my AC in my trailer so wondering how this guy was running his AC with almost the same model of generator.
My champion is a 100 lbs, if I lift it, my back is done. Going to get a lift to get it in the truck. I love Harbor Freight! Good comparison. Big difference between the 2. The predator is quiet.
Travels with Delaney I always have some wayward adventure, haha. Just got that thing fixed. Lots of water in the gas.......Yoj guys have the best holiday season. We’ll be seeing you soon.
Nice review. I went with the Honda 3000 about 4 years ago, and yeah the price was expensive. But its paid for now. Its always hard to compare over a video, but the Predator seems to be very close in sound levels. As to life expectancy, well that's always hard to call and quite frankly depends on how its used. The fact that you could buy almost three Predators for what the Honda cost is pretty telling though. One suggestion buy fuel that doesn't have alcohol in it. If it sits for a long time it can destroy even engines rated for it. Also gas stabilizer since it sits for a while. I start mine monthly and let it run for 30 minutes. That gets some fuel and lubricants moving, charges the battery and gives me the comfort level that when I need it, it will work.
Can i hook up 2 a/c to this predator one is a 8000 BTU and the other is a 12000 BTU they are both window AC should I go with this 3500 Predator inverter or should I go with the 9000 generator that has more plugs
The noise difference is significant even without looking at a decibel meter and I love the start button feature. But lifting 100 pounds off of my truck would throw my back out on the first try. I'm just wondering, (1) do you think I would I be able to leave that in the bed of my truck while it's running? (2) If I left it in the truck bed (which has a hard tonneau cover on it), do I need to worry about ventilation? (3) Would I also be able to leave an extra propane tank in the bed of my truck while traveling? Thanking you in advance for the guidance - my journey will soon start!
I'm not expert on this subjects you might want to ask that question on a forum. I personally don't know why you couldn't run it in the bed of your truck with the tailgate down and the exhaust pointing out. Can you open your tonneau cover for ventilation? I would think as long as you have the propane tank strapped down so it can't move, it would be fine.
@@TravelswithDelaney Thanks! Yes, I can lift my tonneau cover for ventilation - I was more concerned about ventilation while traveling down the road when everything has to be closed. I had read somewhere that you should always have ventilation for gas tanks and propane tanks even while they're not in use. But that was one person's opinion and I couldn't find any other info to colloborate with that opinion. Thanks again for taking the time to answer - I've been learning a lot from your videos!
Lisa, you'll be dealing with more like 125#, NOT 100#. 2.5 gallons of gas will add approx 22# + oil. Propane & gasoline products produce "vapors" which are heavier than air & can EXPLODE with merely nearby sparks. To avoid causing an explosion, you absolutely HAVE TO Ventilate B4 starting the generator. Keep in mind, if you keep the generator in the back of a tow vehicle that it will get COLD & COLD BATTERIES don't produce the starting current the same as warm batteries. You would need to face the generator so the exhaust can escape away from the truck bed + you need to have the generator facing in such a way that you can pull the cord to start it IF the battery is dead or not producing the starting current needed. Battery starting is questionable in COLD temperatures.
@@azclaimjumper Wow, thanks for jumping in there with a detailed response. Sounds like I would be better off going with something lighter and more manageable.
Would this run a gas furnace, refrigerator, dishwasher, microwave, 2 lcd tvs, gas hot water tank, washing machine, gas dryer, and garage door lift? Not all at once but curious 🤔
I'm between this predator 3500 and champion 4000 open face inverter as well. This seems to have less power just a little quieter. Any advice or info you can help me with my decision? I'm going to run my camper and home when power goes out . I'm going to parallel two.
I just purchased a Predator 8750 peak 7,000 running watts for my house in case power goes out. So far on the + side it runs very quiet compared to my neighbors it has a 6.6 gallon tank will run at 50% for 12 hours and has a 14 hp motor. Now on the negative side although it comes with electric start the battery is sold separate it doesn’t come with a 4 prong power cord and wheels are also sold separately. But it was 300 cheaper then same watts as Lowe’s sales and it starts with 2 pulls besides as often as I’ll use it I won’t need a battery but the gas tank is also 1.6 gallons larger then the Lowe’s Generator That has a 5 gallon tank.
Great video, i just purchased a predator 3500 myself due to all the positive reviews but haven’t had the chance to run it. Quick question and I apologize ahead of time if it’s already been asked in the comments. It’s been about a year since you have posted this video I was curious how many hours your predator currently has and your current opinion after a year of ownership? Thanks
We have had ours now for about. year and a half and we still love it. I am not sure of the exact hours on it. We honestly use it more here at the house than we have camping. I do the recommended maintenance on it and have had no issues to date.
Run it! Many of those are defective! You need to make sure it runs good before the return period expires or else you’ll be dealing with lousy warranty issues! Not an everyday generator but good! Honda is better!
The real difference is the watt each generator puts out, the predator has 3500 watts is can run the a/c and microwave at the same time , the Generac on has 2000 watts there is a good chance it may no run the a/c because the a/c needs a lot of power on start up and it may not even run the microwave.
There are cargo trailers that attach to the rear bumper of my camper. The weight limit is 150 lbs. Can I safely travel the country with this on the back of my camper?
I honestly can't answer that question as I have never pulled anything behind a camper. I have seen people going down the highway pulling things behind campers. I have heard that the rules on it can vary from state to state.
That is a very tough decision. People who own Honda's swear by them. So far, we love our Predator 3500. It has plenty of power and I love the electronic starter. It's also so quiet. What we just don't know yet is how it will hold up over time.
Travels with Delaney I ended buying the the Honda eu3000. It was well above what I wanted to spend but after factoring everything, I shelled out the extra money. Thanks
The harbor freight predator is much quieter I've own this one until got stolen and the push button start a win win because pull start string will one day break and you will be upset now what
@@TravelswithDelaney you are correct I am looking for something light weight but something that could produce a lot of energy for my cargo van stealth home to power up some 110v appliances without using up electricity from my solar battery setup,
Thanks for the great review. I’ve read and watched a lot of reviews on the Preditor generators in anticipation of purchsing a generator for next summer camping trips. Would love to be able to just cart 1 around but the weight on them is prohibitive for me. I certainly can handle 2 50 pounders but not a single 100 pounder. Where do you store the Predator while transporting it?
We keep ours in the back of our 4Runner. I have a padded soft sided case that I put over it to help contain any possible odors. That worked well this summer for us with no issues. It also helps that I can crack that back window on the 4runner as well for ventilation.
We carry it in the back of the 4Runner. I have a padded soft sided case that I put over it to help contain any smells. It worked well this summer going to the PNW and had no issues with smell in the 4runner.
I tried that with mine but the gas fumes were just too much. I ended up getting a metal tool box to store it in attached to the camper. Then you always have the issue of the gas can too.
I carry extra fuel in the tub on the trailer tongue. I make sure I don't the generator in the car until it has completely cooled which seemed to make a big difference. I also try to keep bare minimum file in it when traveling although that isn't always possible. I wish I could put it on the tongue of the trailer but the tongue weight is already heavy so that is not an option for us.
@@TravelswithDelaney Could the generator be mounted safely on the trailer tongue in some kind of box, and run without getting fumes in the camper, or is that too close?
@@TravelswithDelaney I think so. This was actually our first RV trip, and we were at an historical reenactment event that packed the modern campers in like sardines - our spot was the size of two parking spots. I was concerned about bothering the folks in the pop-up just three feet away. When I turned our generator off, I noticed the ones not far away were pretty quiet.
We have been very happy with ours so far. We've owned it a year. Its super quiet and runs the AC with no issues in our 400. The biggest draw backs are the size and weight but that's to be expected with a 3500 watt generator
From what I have heard is northern tool sells Powerhorse inverter generators that are the same as this predator generator and the 2000watt one. Exact same price but they may have parts from the Powerhorse brand that should be the same incase someone needs parts for the predator
I'm most def a boondocker lol , spend a lot of time in N Mn (bear/wolf country) with my palimino , but still like internet/tv/ac when possible . Have a hookup at a harbour freight got the predator for under 675.00 . I've used it several x's in all types of weather conditions . If you want to gear test anything bring it up N mn for a few seasons . Have friends with Honda/Yamaha/champion and my predator has held up equal if not better , so far .
+Lynette Weisenborn I did 25’ as that’s a fairly common distance it appeared for noise testing on generators based on other videos I watched. I don’t know what the power output was eco mode. I’m sure you can find a much more in-depth review of the Predator on TH-cam. I was just doing a simple noise comparison.
I have no desire to wrangle with the 3500 generator. I'd probably modify it and turn it into a permanently mounted unit within the RV as others have done. With the added benefit of adding a remote start switch. :)
That meter app is way off. Theres no way that generac is under 70 db. Why not just get an actual SPL meter? You can find many that complies with the old iec651 standard (accurate within 1.5 db) for $16 to $20 on Amazon. EDIT: My bad. I'd forgotten you were taking the measurements from 25ft away.
Unfortunately I can't afford to go buy another generator to do that! LOL But if I ever get the chance to compare with someone who owns the Champion, I definitely can do a comparison of it.
You are correct. This at least gives a starting point though. I will be doing another video this spring with both generators running the AC in our NuCamp T@B 400 and testing the Db levels again. Thanks for watching.
You say your original generator used to charge your batteries was not the loudest one at the campground what the hell was everyone else using to generate power jackhammers?
@@TravelswithDelaney Technically Harbor Freight is an off brand or at least in my book. Also to the other comment. Open frame just means the generator has no insulation around it so it's just out in the open making noise.
I own.one until it got stolen in west Texas working in oilfield I watched another video on TV plug backing off while plugin the guy in viedo took off front panel and repositioned the TV plug so it won't unplug while being plugged in food for thought I plan to but another predator this month because I just bought a intech pursue flyer camper to also run ac only one small flaw I had to keep oil fill door open while running to help with air flow to me was no big deal some people did look for reasons to complain I have had many Honda and I live Honda generators buy why spend more for same results if my ran good in oilfield rough roads im sure it run fine on smoother offroad roads also another good point is to buy a magnet oil can to collect and small metal shavings which is normal to happen at times 🤯
Please punctuate. It will make your comments much easier, and therefore much quicker to read. Think of leaving out punctuation as being in a passenger's seat, navigating, and not telling a driver where to turn until he is at each intersection - he has to keep stopping, turning around, or going around blocks to get where you're trying to take him. It's difficult.
Travels with Delaney that was my first thought, sounded like piston slap ! I like your prices in the U.S the predator is available in the U.K. at about £825 being the best price it is sold as a loncin 3500i with standard 2 year warranty. Never ceases to amaze me how many parts of the U.S seem to take power outages as a way of life, I cannot remember having a power outage in at least 10 years here !
On the Predator I put on the pneumatic wheel kit and removed the wheel lock. Quieted the generator noticeably and eliminated the vibration noise and ringing. Our Honda eu3000i wont run the 15K RV AC on a hot day. The Predator 3500 easily does. We think the Predator much quieter and much less vibration and less vibration noise than the Honda. Honda is overrated and overpriced but still a good generator of course. Honda won't back the warranty, Harbor Freight will. Ask anyone who tried warranty service with Honda. Just take care of the Predator. Easy Oil changes plus clean the spark arrester every 100 hours, drain the gas for storage, use fresh gas.
Oh boy, it’s been years and years since we’ve camped in a campground and I remember, back in the day, tents and RVs but NO generators. We just bought our Tab 400 and now are staying at campgrounds again (been backpacking or camping on private property for YEARS previously). Holy Moley are campgrounds ever NOISY these days with all the generators. Have to say, I am not a fan.
I purchase nothing but harbor freight generators I have 4 of them The 3500,4000 industrial and two 700 I have had fantastic luck with return to harbor freight The original 700 watt I used for about 7 years of heavy abuse The new 700 w I run from 7pm to 7am for satellite internet we are completely off grid so phone works through internet I bet 75 to 100 % of generator are not made where you think they are
*100% best **Generater.Systems** I have used. A test for hurricane prep here in Louisiana: three AC units, 5000, 5000 & 8000, 3 fridges, 2 device power setups, 4 flat screens....AND I had 40% of the power meter to spare.*
Thank you for your many informative videos! As an older woman, I have a real fear of what life after marriage might be like, as illness has wiped out our savings and after having the cancer, my husband is no longer able to purchase adequate life insurance. So god forbid anything should happen to him, I’ll be left on my own with a home I won’t be able to afford to keep, so I’m learning as much as I can about van/camper life because I really think that it will be my only option. I’m handy and very independent, but I don’t want to spend what little money I’ll have foolishly, so having kind folks like you do the trial and error part, I know I’ll have the best chance of literal survival. Thank you!💕
Thank you Cheri! Thoughts and prayers to you and your husband.
Insightful. If any of your subscribers are thinking about the Predator they may note that Harbor Freight's Black Friday price is going to be $679. Also a magazine whose name begins with "Consume..." and ends with "Reports" recently rated the Predator brand about equally favorable compared to the Honda. Thanks for sharing another slice of real life!
Thanks for sharing that Black Friday Price with everyone! Thats pretty impressive to be rated by that magazine as comparable to the much more expensive Honda.
You'll discover an overall FAVORABLE consensus of review on the Predator over @amazon.com
Thanks John (as well as) to the other two peeps who left positive comments below yours. I found my generator!
Well now we want a predator!!! Thank you for this great video!
So far I am loving that generator. It is super quiet and so easy to start with the electric start.
Thanks for this video. I'm watching a bunch of 'em preparatory to a run into Cheyenne tomorrow. Harbor Freight emailed a 10% off coupon today and whenever a winter storm knocks out the power we'll have juice to run the gas furnace. Seems prudent and in keeping with the good example of our Mormon neighbors.
Snow! Living in central NC...I get excited when I see snow (which has been a pretty rare event here in recent years).
Thanks for this video review...I've been eyeing the Predator 3500 for both an emergency backup at home (keep the fridge and freezer going during power outages) as well as a potential future travel trailer partner.
Hearing good things from someone I trust is very helpful in making that decision!
BTW, a 10db difference is generally stated to be double the perceived sound loudness (psyco-acoustic level)...so that's a big deal.
But I have to admit, I was expecting to see a puppy today!!
LOL I think everyone was expecting a puppy video. We hadn't had her long enough to get good footage of her. We definitely will work her into this weeks midweek update video. I like having the Predator at home as well. I have an electric wood splitter and the Generac won't run it but the Predator does just fine.
Easy to set up. Started on first try. Love the dual fuel capability.
Great video, good info about the Harbor Freight unit.
Also I appreciate your audio! A little bumper music for the intro and at the end. The rest of the time I could hear what you had to say 'cause you weren't drowning it out with some tunes, like so many amateurs here on YT insist on doing. Bravo!
Thank you very much for the kind words.
Silly me, I was out working on the chicken coop listening to every HF predator 3500 generator review/mod/test/mangle video I could find and must have been ‘pocket writing’ a comment. I purchased a 3500 generator a couple days ago and have been researching the best upgrades (iridium spark plugs, magnetic oil dipstick, re-jetting to lean it out a bit, airflow for cooling, magical oil...., etc..) and am impressed with all the wisdom everyone shares. It’s my first generator and am making the best attempt at learning from other’s mistakes before making my own inevitable doozies.
Sounds like we've found our future generator! Thanks for the great review.
The PREDATOR weighs 130# with gas & oil. The 100# weight mentioned several times by Patrick is the DRY weight of the generator. You need to figure you will NOrMALLY be lifting well over 100#. Gas weighs approximately 8# per gallon, a full gas tank of 2.5 gallons adds 20# to the generator's weight.
Thank you!
@@azclaimjumper -> Like I mentioned above, even though I plan on having mine bolted to the floor of my utility trailer I like the weight. It is just another theft deterrent. :-)
Predator 3500, Loncin LC3500i, Chicago Pneumatic CPPG3i, Powerhorse 3500, BE13500L3500, Echo Bearcat IG3500E, Campeon LC3500i, Anteng AT3500i are all the same generator. Note that Echo, one of the most trusted names in power equipment, is among them. If you should need parts for your predator you can get them from Pillar Equipment in Silvis, Illinois. They are an Echo part supplier.
Thank you for sharing that information!
Great video and noise level comparison . I watched many videos about the Predator 3500 before deciding .. yes I purchased the Predator 3500 over a year ago . I'm very happy with it and have not used it in an emergency situation yet .. no long term electrical outages as I type . The price and running wattage was a selling point for me . I'm using it as a backup for that day I need it for long term usage . I'm also planning to use it in a cargo trailer or travel trailer ( TAB 400) to travel with . I haven't purchased a TAB 400 yet but have seen 2 at 2 different dealership . Good Luck with your Predator 3500 great choice !
Thank you for the feedback on your Predator!
Good to hear... i think we will take a chance on buying this unit
Just found this. This is a no brainer. Thanks for helping me to make my choice👍👍👍
Excellent, informative, coherent video, as usual, Patrick.
I've read all the replies before composing mine.
1. To emphasize what Patrick said; online reviews for the Predator are an overall FAVORABLE consensus. You might want to consider keeping an NKG replacement spark plug on hand for the Predator, in fact, several reviewers said the first thing they did was pull the spark plug out of the Predator & replace with an NKG brand plug.
2. I especially liked you took your decibel reading from the muffler side of the generators. As quiet as the Predator is, it is even quieter from any other direction away from the muffler.
3. in terms of weight, Patrick, I'd like to "add" that the Predator weights more like 125#+ when you consider a full tank of gas (20#) + oil + the Predator (100#+) = 125#
4. I wish you'd demo'd starting the cold Predator with the hand pull start & then the electric start.
5. I'd recommend SeaFoam instead of StaBil for fuel stabilizer for both generators based on the following article: weingartz.com/expert-advice/2017/01/fuel-stabilizers-sta-bil-or-sea-foam/
6. I am a Honda 2200i owner.....FWIW
Keep your eye on your mailbox, I've some goodies for you that are in a small bubble wrap envelope that are on their way as of Tuesday, 13 Nov.
Thank you for all the added points! I really appreciate your feedback for not only me but for others that will read them. I love using SeaFoam in our vehicles. I will have to try the hand pull on the Predator...I honestly haven't tried it yet.
Thank you for the comparison. I think its only a matter of time till Honda sales start to slip due to Harbor Freight and other who are making quality affordable generators. The one upgrade to make right away is change out the cheap HF spark plug that comes with the Predator to a high quality plug like NGK. At 100 lbs it is a bit heavy but still lighter than the Honda. With a quality spark plug and the extended warranty I think Predator is solid choice.
Thank you Neal! I will look into changing out the plug. You are the 2nd person to mention that in the comments.
Thank you Patrick, I have a generator on my big ticket list along with a cover. I have been looking at generator reviews and it is like shopping for and auto. it is so hard to decide. This will help my decision for a backup for the house when the power goes out. We had 6 inches of snow last night and expect more tonight. the high temperature today is 17 degrees. you have to you New York in the fall.
We definitely have the Adirondack area on our to do list for a fall trip!
I'm wondering how many viewers click the "like" button even before they see the video? Lol!
Nice review Patrick! Great way to test that new mic - over generator noise! That really is super quiet..you're really good at finding the best deal for the money! (I'll just always have to boondock with you guys, that's heavy! Lol!)
Safe and happy travels and see you #ondowntheroad 💜
I'm always amazed how quickly the view count goes up after I make it live. That new mic is great it appears. I didn't hear any wind noise which I always get with just the iPhone mic. Looks like it and the indoor light were good investments. You can boondock with us anytime you like!
GREAT REVIEW! I can get the Generac at wholesale price (I know someone) & I recently listened to a Predator 8750 because it is currently on sale for $499.00. But it was LOUD! I don't need 8,000 watts let alone 3500 to run my portable Climate Right Heat/AC unit for my rooftop tent, but because the Predator 3500 iis so quiet? I'll pay a lil extra! Thanks to your review, that is the one I am going with. Thank you! SUBSCRIBED!
OH, I meant to add, I LIKE the fact that it weighs 100 pounds. It makes it more theft deterrent.
So far we have been very happy with ours. Obviously we don't know if it will hold up for the long haul but its done a great job this winter around the house. We've had the power go out a few times and I have used it to power some things here in the house.
Great job comparing them. Thanks.
Thank you!
Thanks for another excellent video. Looked at Harbor Fright before. Really not sold on any of their products. I will stay tuned for another video/review after you have used it. I will check out additional reviews. Thanks
Good Review Patrick! Harbor Freight must be stepping up their game. :) That's a nice generator for the money.
So far I have been really impressed. Only time will tell how it holds up but for now I think it is well worth the money.
You do a great show. very informative
Thank you Matt!
Hi Patrick, great video as always. I have heard nothing but good things about the Predator. The sound difference you showed is considerable. I often find the tone of the engine also makes a difference. On a side note...that scary white stuff on the ground behind you is quite concerning. Stay safe.
Can you believe snow already! YIKES! Luckily it looks pretty where we live so that makes it a bit more bearable. Its these cold temperatures that I really dislike.
Btw, Great video it’s very well narrated and informative 👍
I have the Harbor Freight Predator 8750.
I have been using it for 2 years.
I run it about 2 weeks a month.
Pretty wide open running equipment.
I’ve had very few issues, I had to change out the on/off switch, that’s it.
Did it myself, very easy to do.
It was $9.00 off EBay.
Also I service it approx every 50 hours.. change oil.. clean filters.
Also I only use ETHANOL FREE fuel, as per my landscapers advice, for small air. Oiled engines.
I highly recommend Harbor Freight Predator generators.
Thank you for sharing your experience with yours.
I love the Predator and have a few videos on it myself. The real key is in the proper startup and break in of the Predator, do it right and you won't have problems but do it wrong and you can destroy it pretty quickly. Mine runs my entire 32' 5th wheel including my 15k a/c unit.
I'm prob going to buy one tomorrow. What is the proper break in for it?
FloridaBoy Survival I'm also curious. What is the proper break in?
@@2old4allthis From the manual: Breaking-in the Engine will help to ensure proper equipment and Engine operation.
• The break-in period will last about 30 hours of use.
• DO NOT exceed 75% of the Generator’s running wattage during this period.
• Change the engine oil after this period.
1- get the $8 magnetic dip stick on amazon.
2- use regular Dino oil for the first 3-4 oil changes (no synthetic for the first 30 hours)
3- watch TH-cam videos on how to change the oil
4- change oil at 1 hour, 4 hours, and then 15 and 30 hours. Cleaning the dipstick of metal shavings often.
5-try to vary throttle and load not exceeding 75%, but not 0% either
6- watch TH-cam video on cleaning exhaust spark arrester and clean WHEN needed.
7- ENJOY knowing you have taken care of the motor and proper break in.
*-consider the NGK spark plug upgrade as well as charcoal canister delete mod.
Something to take into consideration when comparing generators sound levels is whether they are inverter or standard models. Inverter generators generally much quieter than the open frame standard generator models.
There is a huge difference in sound between the two.
Wow -- at that range, the Predator on "high" is 3x quieter than the Generac on "eco". That's HUGE! (every 3db is a perceived doubling of sound level)
Great compare and contrast! You helped me make a decision about that Harborfreight generator. Your video productions have really come a long way! Good use of cutaways to cover cuts in the storyline. Only suggestion, get a lav wired or wireless mic - your information is too good to be lost due to background noise. It’s the cheapest improvement any film maker can make.
Thank you John! We actually just added a new Rode external mic and this was the first video shot with it. I'm not sure any mic would have captured me talking over that Generac generator. I appreciate your kind words and feedback!
The Rode shotgun is great for ambient stuff and indoor shooting where there's not a lot of background noise - they also have a new wireless rig that's quite good. The secret with Lav mics is to get them as close to your Adam's Apple. What the Lav mic will allow you to do is have a louder VO to background noise ratio which means your overall mix volume can be louder. It's a continual learning process!
The new mic. Is working great.
Nice gen. To
Thanks Glenn! I was impressed how there was no wind noise using the new mic. And it was a bit breezy out when I shot the video.
Thank you Patrick . I was curious about the harbor freight brand. Honda is very expensive as well a yamaha so I will be interested in your test of the predator. Thank you
I love it so far. It will be interesting to see how it holds up long term. It's definitely a great price compared to Honda.
@@TravelswithDelaney how has its held up longterm?
Caldwell Jackson We’ve had it a full two years and had no issues. Only thing I e done is change the oil.
Another great video, thanks! I'm puzzled though: why measure the sound level 25' away? I don't see how to set a generator 25' from an RV without being in another RV pad's space. Wouldn't it be interesting to (maybe also) get a measurement from right next to it, or perhaps 5' away? Thanks!
+csktx Most generator tests to rate decibel levels are done at a distance of 23’-25’. So when you see a company post a rating, it’s usually from those distances.
csktx - Many campers (like myself) enjoy boondocking on BLM land. Most of the time you won't see another camper for miles. Therefore having it 25 feet away (the most common extension cord length) will make it seem even more quiet being that far away from your campsite. ;-)
FYI EVERYONE WHO HAS HARD TIME RESTARTING THE PREDATOR 3500 WHEN ITS HOT OUTSIDE... All you have you have to do is remove the gas cap and it will start right up. Just needs to vent. Somehow it took me almost two summers to finally figure this out lol
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Good portable generator info.
Thank you Bob!
Great video!
Thanks Adam!
I have a Generac iQ2000 which I love and it has lots of bells and whistles to tell you everything about it's running operation and is a lot quiter then that one. That said it will not run my AC in my trailer so wondering how this guy was running his AC with almost the same model of generator.
@Ward Trucking It's a 13.5 unit do they come any smaller? Put in a hard start unit so interested to see it it will start up with the 2k generator now.
My champion is a 100 lbs, if I lift it, my back is done. Going to get a lift to get it in the truck. I love Harbor Freight! Good comparison. Big difference between the 2. The predator is quiet.
You have the best generator story Steve! Next time we are together, you should tell that on camera! LOL You are right, the Predator is super quiet.
Travels with Delaney I always have some wayward adventure, haha. Just got that thing fixed. Lots of water in the gas.......Yoj guys have the best holiday season. We’ll be seeing you soon.
nice job!
How much gas do you keep on hand and where do you store your gas container?
I just carry an extra gallon in a small can that I carry in the bucket of the trailer.
Nice review. I went with the Honda 3000 about 4 years ago, and yeah the price was expensive. But its paid for now. Its always hard to compare over a video, but the Predator seems to be very close in sound levels. As to life expectancy, well that's always hard to call and quite frankly depends on how its used. The fact that you could buy almost three Predators for what the Honda cost is pretty telling though.
One suggestion buy fuel that doesn't have alcohol in it. If it sits for a long time it can destroy even engines rated for it. Also gas stabilizer since it sits for a while. I start mine monthly and let it run for 30 minutes. That gets some fuel and lubricants moving, charges the battery and gives me the comfort level that when I need it, it will work.
Thank you Robert! I always start my generators every month and let them run for 30 minutes as wells.
The actual noise test starts at 7:55 , YOU WELCOME!
Well done!
You said it, Honda is the standard. For good reason. Cheapest if you figure in resale and depreciation.
Scot Turner
Yeah I can't ever find the Hondas used for less than 20% off retail! Thats amazing resell value even at 1000 hr.
Nice review !
Liked/Subscribed !
Thank you!
Can i hook up 2 a/c to this predator one is a 8000 BTU and the other is a 12000 BTU they are both window AC should I go with this 3500 Predator inverter or should I go with the 9000 generator that has more plugs
Update? How is she running now?
The noise difference is significant even without looking at a decibel meter and I love the start button feature. But lifting 100 pounds off of my truck would throw my back out on the first try. I'm just wondering, (1) do you think I would I be able to leave that in the bed of my truck while it's running? (2) If I left it in the truck bed (which has a hard tonneau cover on it), do I need to worry about ventilation? (3) Would I also be able to leave an extra propane tank in the bed of my truck while traveling? Thanking you in advance for the guidance - my journey will soon start!
I'm not expert on this subjects you might want to ask that question on a forum. I personally don't know why you couldn't run it in the bed of your truck with the tailgate down and the exhaust pointing out. Can you open your tonneau cover for ventilation? I would think as long as you have the propane tank strapped down so it can't move, it would be fine.
@@TravelswithDelaney Thanks! Yes, I can lift my tonneau cover for ventilation - I was more concerned about ventilation while traveling down the road when everything has to be closed. I had read somewhere that you should always have ventilation for gas tanks and propane tanks even while they're not in use. But that was one person's opinion and I couldn't find any other info to colloborate with that opinion. Thanks again for taking the time to answer - I've been learning a lot from your videos!
Lisa, you'll be dealing with more like 125#, NOT 100#. 2.5 gallons of gas will add approx 22# + oil. Propane & gasoline products produce "vapors" which are heavier than air & can EXPLODE with merely nearby sparks. To avoid causing an explosion, you absolutely HAVE TO Ventilate B4 starting the generator. Keep in mind, if you keep the generator in the back of a tow vehicle that it will get COLD & COLD BATTERIES don't produce the starting current the same as warm batteries. You would need to face the generator so the exhaust can escape away from the truck bed + you need to have the generator facing in such a way that you can pull the cord to start it IF the battery is dead or not producing the starting current needed. Battery starting is questionable in COLD temperatures.
@@azclaimjumper Wow, thanks for jumping in there with a detailed response. Sounds like I would be better off going with something lighter and more manageable.
Would this run a gas furnace, refrigerator, dishwasher, microwave, 2 lcd tvs, gas hot water tank, washing machine, gas dryer, and garage door lift? Not all at once but curious 🤔
Had I known about the Predator, I would have looked at it before I bought the Yamaha 3000.
Great review!!!
Thank you!
With the AC on in the RV will it charge the rv battery aswell , thank you ???
Yes....with the trailer plug into the generator, the converter in the trailer will be charging the battery.
I'm between this predator 3500 and champion 4000 open face inverter as well. This seems to have less power just a little quieter. Any advice or info you can help me with my decision? I'm going to run my camper and home when power goes out . I'm going to parallel two.
We have been to some parks that won’t allow open frame generators so that might be something to consider
I just purchased a Predator 8750 peak 7,000 running watts for my house in case power goes out. So far on the + side it runs very quiet compared to my neighbors it has a 6.6 gallon tank will run at 50% for 12 hours and has a 14 hp motor. Now on the negative side although it comes with electric start the battery is sold separate it doesn’t come with a 4 prong power cord and wheels are also sold separately. But it was 300 cheaper then same watts as Lowe’s sales and it starts with 2 pulls besides as often as I’ll use it I won’t need a battery but the gas tank is also 1.6 gallons larger then the Lowe’s Generator That has a 5 gallon tank.
Thats strange. Our Predator 3500 inverter generator came with the battery and the wheels already installed.
Great video, i just purchased a predator 3500 myself due to all the positive reviews but haven’t had the chance to run it. Quick question and I apologize ahead of time if it’s already been asked in the comments. It’s been about a year since you have posted this video I was curious how many hours your predator currently has and your current opinion after a year of ownership? Thanks
We have had ours now for about. year and a half and we still love it. I am not sure of the exact hours on it. We honestly use it more here at the house than we have camping. I do the recommended maintenance on it and have had no issues to date.
Run it! Many of those are defective! You need to make sure it runs good before the return period expires or else you’ll be dealing with lousy warranty issues! Not an everyday generator but good! Honda is better!
I guess that you have enough generators to run what you need to in the house and trailer during a power outage now.
Definitely! LOL
The real difference is the watt each generator puts out, the predator has 3500 watts is can run the a/c and microwave at the same time , the Generac on has 2000 watts there is a good chance it may no run the a/c because the a/c needs a lot of power on start up and it may not even run the microwave.
You are definitely right. I just posted a video a few weeks ago showing how much load the 3500 watt generator can handle and it was a lot!
If you use your American Express card to buy it they give you an extra year warranty on anything you buy with it too. Pretty good deal .
That is an excellent tip! Thanks for sharing.
Great job!!! Thank you!!!
Any maintenance issue thus far?
No issues so far. We have just done the required oil changes.
Is this thing still running?
Absolutely! Over two year now.
There are cargo trailers that attach to the rear bumper of my camper. The weight limit is 150 lbs. Can I safely travel the country with this on the back of my camper?
I honestly can't answer that question as I have never pulled anything behind a camper. I have seen people going down the highway pulling things behind campers. I have heard that the rules on it can vary from state to state.
I’m debating between this P 3500 or the Honda EU2200.
I can get both for about the same price the Honda being second hand though.
Any thoughts ?
That is a very tough decision. People who own Honda's swear by them. So far, we love our Predator 3500. It has plenty of power and I love the electronic starter. It's also so quiet. What we just don't know yet is how it will hold up over time.
Travels with Delaney
I ended buying the the Honda eu3000.
It was well above what I wanted to spend but after factoring everything, I shelled out the extra money.
Thanks
@@michaelvickers89 After you have used it for awhile, come back and give us an update!
The harbor freight predator is much quieter I've own this one until got stolen and the push button start a win win because pull start string will one day break and you will be upset now what
How loud is it with the A/C plugged in ?
Once it gets warm out in Indiana, I am going to do a follow up video testing both using the AC.
How do I get a review and test it.
Can u use indoor & can u run a mini refrigerator off of it?
you wouldn't want to run it inside but you can power a mini refrigerator with it.
Hmm I wonder if the harbor freight one will fit in a hitch with a lock box?
This one weighs 100 pounds so you would have to consider that into tongue weight.
@@TravelswithDelaney you are correct I am looking for something light weight but something that could produce a lot of energy for my cargo van stealth home to power up some 110v appliances without using up electricity from my solar battery setup,
Thanks for the great review. I’ve read and watched a lot of reviews on the Preditor generators in anticipation of purchsing a generator for next summer camping trips. Would love to be able to just cart 1 around but the weight on them is prohibitive for me. I certainly can handle 2 50 pounders but not a single 100 pounder. Where do you store the Predator while transporting it?
We keep ours in the back of our 4Runner. I have a padded soft sided case that I put over it to help contain any possible odors. That worked well this summer for us with no issues. It also helps that I can crack that back window on the 4runner as well for ventilation.
Honda all the way for me. Where are you going to put it when driving? Inside the 4 Runner would be a little stinky.
We carry it in the back of the 4Runner. I have a padded soft sided case that I put over it to help contain any smells. It worked well this summer going to the PNW and had no issues with smell in the 4runner.
I tried that with mine but the gas fumes were just too much. I ended up getting a metal tool box to store it in attached to the camper. Then you always have the issue of the gas can too.
I carry extra fuel in the tub on the trailer tongue. I make sure I don't the generator in the car until it has completely cooled which seemed to make a big difference. I also try to keep bare minimum file in it when traveling although that isn't always possible. I wish I could put it on the tongue of the trailer but the tongue weight is already heavy so that is not an option for us.
@@TravelswithDelaney Could the generator be mounted safely on the trailer tongue in some kind of box, and run without getting fumes in the camper, or is that too close?
Wow!! Major difference I'd say! Thanks for sharing! Be safe, Be blessed. 😉☺❤🇺🇸💙
Thanks for watching Donna!
We were at an event recently and there were several generators running during the allowed times (not after 11pm). All were Predators.
How was the noise level? Pretty good?
@@TravelswithDelaney I think so. This was actually our first RV trip, and we were at an historical reenactment event that packed the modern campers in like sardines - our spot was the size of two parking spots. I was concerned about bothering the folks in the pop-up just three feet away. When I turned our generator off, I noticed the ones not far away were pretty quiet.
Just looking back at this video with my husband. Sales are on for labor day! Are you still satisfied with the Predator?
We have been very happy with ours so far. We've owned it a year. Its super quiet and runs the AC with no issues in our 400. The biggest draw backs are the size and weight but that's to be expected with a 3500 watt generator
Predators engines are modeled after Honda. They engine components are virtually identical.
I have heard the same thing.
Many of the parts are directly interchangeable.
From what I have heard is northern tool sells Powerhorse inverter generators that are the same as this predator generator and the 2000watt one. Exact same price but they may have parts from the Powerhorse brand that should be the same incase someone needs parts for the predator
@@MD-scorpion That may be the case. So much deception in order to keep the name brand
gotta put a load on them as a test. this can give you more accurate comparison. nice video tho the predator is nice and the price is low.
I did a follow up video this spring where I ran the AC on both of them: th-cam.com/video/Pb6XShcxKeU/w-d-xo.html
Yamaha makes an excellent product. Better run time than Hondas and just as quiet.
I know a couple of people who own Yamaha and they have said the same thing.
I'm most def a boondocker lol , spend a lot of time in N Mn (bear/wolf country) with my palimino , but still like internet/tv/ac when possible . Have a hookup at a harbour freight got the predator for under 675.00 . I've used it several x's in all types of weather conditions . If you want to gear test anything bring it up N mn for a few seasons . Have friends with Honda/Yamaha/champion and my predator has held up equal if not better , so far .
If you are def then the sound won't bother you at all.. sheesh 🙌
Can the PREDATOR be hooked up, or piggy backed to another PREDATOR or any other Harbor Freight generator of any size?
How did you decide on 25 feet? How much power did each put out on eco mode?
+Lynette Weisenborn I did 25’ as that’s a fairly common distance it appeared for noise testing on generators based on other videos I watched. I don’t know what the power output was eco mode. I’m sure you can find a much more in-depth review of the Predator on TH-cam. I was just doing a simple noise comparison.
7 meters (23 feet) is the industry standard for SPL measurement of generators
Good helper
I have no desire to wrangle with the 3500 generator. I'd probably modify it and turn it into a permanently mounted unit within the RV as others have done. With the added benefit of adding a remote start switch. :)
Anyone know if these Predators have solid copper windings in the elect. gen. unit? H.F. doesn't allow you to ask questions about their products.
That I do not know.
Keep in mind Harbor Freight doesn't manufacture anything. They are a retail outlet only, so they may not know the answers to your questions.
That meter app is way off. Theres no way that generac is under 70 db. Why not just get an actual SPL meter? You can find many that complies with the old iec651 standard (accurate within 1.5 db) for $16 to $20 on Amazon. EDIT: My bad. I'd forgotten you were taking the measurements from 25ft away.
Would be great to compare champion to predator, same size generator....
Unfortunately I can't afford to go buy another generator to do that! LOL But if I ever get the chance to compare with someone who owns the Champion, I definitely can do a comparison of it.
They were not tested under load. It matters.
You are correct. This at least gives a starting point though. I will be doing another video this spring with both generators running the AC in our NuCamp T@B 400 and testing the Db levels again. Thanks for watching.
Harbor Freight unit is really quiet. Too bad no propane ability. Champion has dual fuel units but your Harbot Freight unit is hard to beat. Thank you.
You say your original generator used to charge your batteries was not the loudest one at the campground what the hell was everyone else using to generate power jackhammers?
+Robert S everything from off brands to open frame generators.
@@TravelswithDelaney I don't even know what that means!! I am so not prepared for our purchase this Tuesday!!! OMG, pucker factor up another notch!
@@TravelswithDelaney Technically Harbor Freight is an off brand or at least in my book. Also to the other comment. Open frame just means the generator has no insulation around it so it's just out in the open making noise.
Put a max load on both! Then see.
Where's Bess?
She was inside beating up on her older brother.
I own.one until it got stolen in west Texas working in oilfield
I watched another video on TV plug backing off while plugin the guy in viedo took off front panel and repositioned the TV plug so it won't unplug while being plugged in food for thought I plan to but another predator this month because I just bought a intech pursue flyer camper to also run ac only one small flaw I had to keep oil fill door open while running to help with air flow to me was no big deal some people did look for reasons to complain I have had many Honda and I live Honda generators buy why spend more for same results if my ran good in oilfield rough roads im sure it run fine on smoother offroad roads also another good point is to buy a magnet oil can to collect and small metal shavings which is normal to happen at times 🤯
Please punctuate. It will make your comments much easier, and therefore much quicker to read. Think of leaving out punctuation as being in a passenger's seat, navigating, and not telling a driver where to turn until he is at each intersection - he has to keep stopping, turning around, or going around blocks to get where you're trying to take him. It's difficult.
Holy run-on sentences!
Thanks for your Input James Ray !
That generac is loud, thanks.
Many people call Generacs, Generacket
Just found this vid. Sorry but the generac. Sounds like crap. Like it has no oil or the piston is shot or rod
Thank you.
Travels with Delaney that was my first thought, sounded like piston slap ! I like your prices in the U.S the predator is available in the U.K. at about £825 being the best price it is sold as a loncin 3500i with standard 2 year warranty. Never ceases to amaze me how many parts of the U.S seem to take power outages as a way of life, I cannot remember having a power outage in at least 10 years here !
But is there no a complete quite generator cuz I wan to keep it inside my beauty salon
Generators are all engine powered that I am aware of so they will have some noise.
Probably not recommended for inside use anyway
Ya there great at first but wait 10 years and see which one still runs, a Honda or the Chinese one. My money is on the Honda.
+Chevy 55 I’m sure you’re right. But I can buy 3 of the Predators for the price of 1 Honda.
On the Predator I put on the pneumatic wheel kit and removed the wheel lock. Quieted the generator noticeably and eliminated the vibration noise and ringing. Our Honda eu3000i wont run the 15K RV AC on a hot day. The Predator 3500 easily does. We think the Predator much quieter and much less vibration and less vibration noise than the Honda. Honda is overrated and overpriced but still a good generator of course. Honda won't back the warranty, Harbor Freight will. Ask anyone who tried warranty service with Honda.
Just take care of the Predator. Easy Oil changes plus clean the spark arrester every 100 hours, drain the gas for storage, use fresh gas.
I will stick with my honda. At that price for sure
Thank you i need something like this for a mobile salon so ladies dont make a fuss about noise
It's definitely very quiet
Oh boy, it’s been years and years since we’ve camped in a campground and I remember, back in the day, tents and RVs but NO generators. We just bought our Tab 400 and now are staying at campgrounds again (been backpacking or camping on private property for YEARS previously). Holy Moley are campgrounds ever NOISY these days with all the generators. Have to say, I am not a fan.
We try not to run our generator if at all possible. I feel a lot better about this new one as quiet as it is.
They are all the same "rebranded' portable generator . . .
Generac needs a valve adjustment bad man wholy crap.
What the hell is a "price point"?
“A point on a scale of possible prices at which something might be marketed”
@@TravelswithDelaney Ok Thanks,,,never heard that before....so, its how much you would pay for the item?
@@mb2308 It's basically the price at which an item is sold. The Harbor Freight is priced at a lower point than the comparable Honda.
I purchase nothing but harbor freight generators I have 4 of them
The 3500,4000 industrial and two 700
I have had fantastic luck with return to harbor freight
The original 700 watt I used for about 7 years of heavy abuse
The new 700 w I run from 7pm to 7am for satellite internet we are completely off grid so phone works through internet
I bet 75 to 100 % of generator are not made where you think they are
Almost 10 minutes yapping! Just get to the point and sound test 🤦🏻♂️
OR.....never watch one of our videos again.....THANK YOU!
@@TravelswithDelaney yapper 😂
Jh