How I Defeated the Worst Debuff in Victoria 2: Netherlands Victoria 2 A to Z

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  • @Vmac1394
    @Vmac1394 2 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    Tbh colonialism in the 19th century largely lost money rather than made it. That's something that Victoria 2 gets very wrong. The only place Britain had a net gain from colonialism was in India, everywhere else it was a money sink.

    • @groomschild1617
      @groomschild1617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      the thing is colonialism is great for the private sector ie. corporations and the rich. The nation paid all the expense like military and enforcing law and order while the corporations had free reign to exploit the population.
      in game the factories(private sector) are being fed by the resources from the colonies and that what makes colonies profitable.

    • @jeebusthegreat8819
      @jeebusthegreat8819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      what a stupid take, colonies in Britain were extremely profitable for private companies but not for the government

    • @Rynewulf
      @Rynewulf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@jeebusthegreat8819 so yeah, a pretty bad deal and economically good that we stopped wasting resources on it

    • @Raadpensionaris
      @Raadpensionaris ปีที่แล้ว +24

      The Dutch East Indies were also very profitable

    • @your-mom-irl
      @your-mom-irl ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Rynewulf cope. Your empire was taken from you by the Americans, not given up on by some enlightened imperial bureaucrat. You lost

  • @justineo5529
    @justineo5529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    In this game, the Netherlands are unable to take clay from the ocean. Instead they took clay from the closest blue thing, France.

  • @tribblier
    @tribblier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    Taxing only the poor is not a good strategy, you are decreasing the demand for goods which will make factories less profitable and decrease the rate at which pops change role. The rich are useless and basically only exist to consume (which the poor do better) and to build factories (which weren't needed as their were not unemployed). Taxing the rich as much as possible to reduce the burden on the others will have a greater positive impact.
    My late game Greater Mexico to Patricia Grande to South American Union is 100,0,0 taxes and -40% tarrifls.

    • @mytiliss682
      @mytiliss682 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Negative tarrifs don't make sense when you have so much resources, you barely import anything. Better leave them on 100% and subsidize factories.

    • @j.murphy4884
      @j.murphy4884 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Tariffs should never be lower than 0%, subsiding is wasting money.

    • @duskpede5146
      @duskpede5146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@j.murphy4884 this is what people get wrong about the economy, money doesn't matter. if you can fund your army and education it does not matter at all whether you are making 20 pounds profit or 20,000 pounds profit.

    • @redwillrise
      @redwillrise 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@duskpede5146 it always pays to have reserves, since the price of goods can vary wildly and you might have to subsidize factories sometimes. Late game years-long wars can get ridiculously expensive and you need millions in the bank if you want to fund your army 100%. You'll never get that kind of reserve with 20£ a day

    • @spuduccinoo
      @spuduccinoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Rich people also consume steam transports just like real life so yeah Frick those guys. I hope vic 3 makes laissez-faire better.

  • @jansatamme6521
    @jansatamme6521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    3.6m soldiers for germany who hasnt lost ww1 and has morbilized in 1931 is pretty realistic

    • @ellidominusser1138
      @ellidominusser1138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      its morbing time

    • @thegamingraven1691
      @thegamingraven1691 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Morbiliized...

    • @pieceofschmidtgamer
      @pieceofschmidtgamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *"morbilized"*
      1) th-cam.com/video/eJrlezLvWnU/w-d-xo.html
      2) th-cam.com/video/Otm4RusESNU/w-d-xo.html

    • @Atajew
      @Atajew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It's morbilization time

    • @johnsteampunk6408
      @johnsteampunk6408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I liked when Kaiser Morbhilm said "It'd Morbin time"

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Don't feel too bad about missing that event. The whole..."thing" with these PDX grand strategy games is that you'll be learning new things about them 2000 hours in! It's why we're all so addicted!

  • @Joostmhw
    @Joostmhw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    To be fair, it was the Dutch who built those factories, many owners moved into Belgium after its independence

  • @DKforever24
    @DKforever24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It is pretty clear he has never looked at the trade tab to check out the world supply/demand. I have also noticed that if you are building a bunch of forts while also trying to build a bunch of artillery brigades, the world supply just can't keep up with that much demand because of the fact that forts require a bunch of artillery to build/upgrade. I also believe the game fulfills demand based on the order in which the buttons were clicked. For instance, if you pause the game, then click to upgrade like 50 forts around your country, then click to build 20 artillery brigades, the game will supply the needs of the forts before the brigades simply because you built the forts first. I believe you can do this to manipulate market prices as well, because the value of artillery skyrocketed due to the sudden high demand.

  • @fatopato3681
    @fatopato3681 2 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    Bro pls make a banat video i need it

    • @diesirae9223
      @diesirae9223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      we need it

    • @butterbutter891
      @butterbutter891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      if he made one, we'd have only 2 banat videos on the entire yt

    • @cowpoop123457
      @cowpoop123457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s not ISP chill out.

    • @adolfsatan6105
      @adolfsatan6105 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cowpoop123457 ISP is Reddit teir humor

    • @dakotaohayo1082
      @dakotaohayo1082 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes we need it

  • @dntytbr
    @dntytbr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Tip: if you spam the subdise button gives so much relationship with the nation, 9 diplomacy points = 180++ relation

    • @JohnSmith-kb4re
      @JohnSmith-kb4re 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2010 Game Mechanics™

    • @phatogdaphantom7495
      @phatogdaphantom7495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Literally you: we do a little trolling.

    • @amruzaky4939
      @amruzaky4939 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's the subdise button? I don't get it.

    • @phatogdaphantom7495
      @phatogdaphantom7495 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amruzaky4939 he meant subsidize.

    • @amruzaky4939
      @amruzaky4939 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@phatogdaphantom7495 thanks 👍

  • @balazsszalai2714
    @balazsszalai2714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    You can ally with the UK at the very start of the game and they will help you to annex Belgium

  • @JohnSmith-kb4re
    @JohnSmith-kb4re 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Because guess what, every Marvel movie is the same."
    Mister Strategy Games Telmatology is being based as usual I see

  • @bananaman2556
    @bananaman2556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "I hate france" said like a true dutch person, well done. (ofcourse a joke)

  • @venezuelaanimations3732
    @venezuelaanimations3732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Glad to see you're still out making great content as always ❤

  • @riotdrone
    @riotdrone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you should make a guide video, i'd love to hear your opinion on optimal factories strategy

  • @oneoflast7757
    @oneoflast7757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the mic, when’s the next stream? I need my map game ASMR!

    • @SGT
      @SGT  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I will stream whenever I can but rn I am super busy

  • @rowsbros6130
    @rowsbros6130 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aw man I was in class when this was uploaded. Been loving the new mic! much clearer and quieter than the old one

  • @Magnus181
    @Magnus181 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    GFM loves high infamy for little acquisitions that aren't worth it. In a Russia game, I ignored all of central asia to focus on more useful ways to spend it.

  • @CraftsmanOfAwsomenes
    @CraftsmanOfAwsomenes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Considering Bone is also spelled Boni I am going to go out on a limb and say it’s probably Bon-eh and the weirdass thing English does with silent Es modifying earlier vowels doesn’t exist in transliterated Buginese.
    Flanders kept cores because it’s a real region with a history whereas in this world Belgium had existed for a collective year or two before getting crushed.

  • @joraninator
    @joraninator 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7:25 based

  • @Artur-qq1ef6zm1l
    @Artur-qq1ef6zm1l 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    not a very optimistic ending! you have won many battles, but your country is very exhausted from the war and the aggressiveness of the population is very high

    • @walker1tnranger
      @walker1tnranger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dutch October incoming

    • @Artur-qq1ef6zm1l
      @Artur-qq1ef6zm1l 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@walker1tnranger long live the revolution! down with imperialism!

  • @Gremph
    @Gremph 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video as always!

  • @ternence8818
    @ternence8818 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    04:20 you just discovered one of the reason Belgium wanted to succeed in the first place

  • @stefaneduard8354
    @stefaneduard8354 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congratulation for 12k subscribers!!

  • @honeysauce5244
    @honeysauce5244 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the age of enlightenment mod you can form the anglo Dutch union and i was basically able to get half the word because of how powerful it can be considering the colonial opportunities

  • @TheDarkFireBlazes
    @TheDarkFireBlazes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    try and resign and go back to your game to fix the supply issues more in the later game. happens to me, i just reload, and its usually fixed (16:12)

  • @Arti_Novideos
    @Arti_Novideos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great vid, i love this series

  • @sahilhossain8204
    @sahilhossain8204 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm yes lore of Vic 2 Benelux momentum 100

  • @Arbiter099
    @Arbiter099 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the "interesting" nation caveat seems counterintuitive to the A-Z theme, at least in the sense of ISP HOI A-Z.

  • @nono_Hoi4
    @nono_Hoi4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ''worst debuff since the soviet army debuff''
    Chinas army debuff in hoi4: What about ME

  • @jaydensouth4502
    @jaydensouth4502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got back my account lets gooo

  • @rodox2832
    @rodox2832 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We don't want Barbant, we want BANAT!!

  • @DieselMech
    @DieselMech ปีที่แล้ว

    in this game I've learned that STG hates the british and the french.

  • @rdsh3434
    @rdsh3434 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should uptade your GFM version

  • @dominikmol905
    @dominikmol905 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The new microphone is a lot better on the ear

  • @decem_sagittae
    @decem_sagittae ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro I rly enjoy your A to Z series but why do you keep saying "cassius belli" instead of "casus belli"?

  • @davesbibliotheca6107
    @davesbibliotheca6107 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wouldn't call it occupying, Belgium belongs to the Dutch 👍

  • @phatogdaphantom7495
    @phatogdaphantom7495 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe that in a past comment I told you to ally the brits to fight belgium. Not joking, they WILL join your side in the war.

  • @georgezhellas1
    @georgezhellas1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still waiting for the ottoman empire video🥺

  • @tamansingh9618
    @tamansingh9618 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey just a pro top for Netherlands starting war with that indonesian minor Aceh, just use your ships in the conoly to blokade them and theyll surrender. Its way easier than to let your troops die of attrittion in the indonesian jungle

  • @TheFriendlyPole
    @TheFriendlyPole 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice new mic I wonder who donated for it

    • @SGT
      @SGT  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much!

  • @Papamikkk
    @Papamikkk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bro why do you sound like saul Goodman?

    • @SGT
      @SGT  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you know that you have rights?

  • @RMS_Oceanic
    @RMS_Oceanic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Neutral Moresnet is next!

  • @donjuanmckenzie4897
    @donjuanmckenzie4897 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do people understand that you can just stockpile any given good when your units or buildings are stuck in the que to get them built fast?

    • @SGT
      @SGT  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can but they do not always exist to buy, so that only works sometimes.

    • @donjuanmckenzie4897
      @donjuanmckenzie4897 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SGT i find it works every time

  • @nukesploder
    @nukesploder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @20:30, why is albania brown??

  • @xanfortunato
    @xanfortunato 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do Persia and Siam!

  • @dakotaohayo1082
    @dakotaohayo1082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pls do a banat video

  • @401craft6
    @401craft6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:47 Colombian liberation of Grao-Pra
    Why the h*ck Colombia had cores on that?

  • @T.Hebert
    @T.Hebert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What mods do you use?

    • @SGT
      @SGT  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      GFM

  • @comradenorwegian4904
    @comradenorwegian4904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Father. i crave banat video. i beg of you

  • @m136dalie
    @m136dalie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nobody noticed China westernised and was #1 GP at the end?

  • @TheOwneroftheIC
    @TheOwneroftheIC ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "It should just be called 'Colonial Exploitation: The Game'. And that is Victoria games in a nutshell." Meanwhile you can't exploit your colonies in Victoria 3, in fact, you can barely colonize.

  • @KB_Man
    @KB_Man 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally

  • @theprezydent6250
    @theprezydent6250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Banat?🥺

  • @pacobracken9407
    @pacobracken9407 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    do you remember me?

  • @U87-z2w
    @U87-z2w ปีที่แล้ว

    I got this debuff and then I stopped playing

  • @JordanHh
    @JordanHh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey I'm kinda new and have a question, in vanilla at least you can change the netherlands party to whatever you want with their gov type and I always choose reactionary which seemingly gives me the most control over my country. In this run are you forced to be the liberal party or did you optionally choose them and why?

    • @42carlos
      @42carlos ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah in gfm it's a democracy and you can't switch parties. but you do have a point, if you can, choose reactionary in the early game. not only do you get the most control (building factories, taxing, tariffs) but the militancy from events often means you can get reforms just as fast as with any other party. i may be wrong but it seems you actually don't mind militancy as long as it comes from political unsatisfaction rather than simple ethnic uprisings like you'd have in the ottoman empire. so just go reactionary and mostly go for the event options that increase militancy. in late game you can afford to go liberal since 1) you won't need to tariff, tax or build factories yourself 2) you wanna avoid militancy since you probably have all the reforms you could use to lower it

  • @__ros_
    @__ros_ 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    which mod is this?

  • @amruzaky4939
    @amruzaky4939 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I sphered Netherland in my game and it destroys my economy.

  • @jayfreechavez0000
    @jayfreechavez0000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤❤❤❤

    • @SGT
      @SGT  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! I am glad you enjoyed

  • @maxwalker1159
    @maxwalker1159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    !

  • @antonfox8217
    @antonfox8217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey what's your PC components ?

    • @SGT
      @SGT  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ryzen 3600x, nvidia 2060 super, 32 gb ram

    • @antonfox8217
      @antonfox8217 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SGT ho ok, thansk

  • @thebiggestgloom
    @thebiggestgloom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Banat please? 🥺🥺

  • @jaydensouth4502
    @jaydensouth4502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its sad that you have to say in the game every minute people need to learn to take a joke

  • @pja6476
    @pja6476 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please brother drop the Reddit tier jokes I am begging you.

  • @scrumptiousbee1032
    @scrumptiousbee1032 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Xhosa

  • @painsorrow3062
    @painsorrow3062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you need to stop smacking your lips together
    great vids tho!

  • @VivaChandles
    @VivaChandles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Br*tish 🤮

  • @sovietmeatball6931
    @sovietmeatball6931 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can form an alliance with the uk then declare on Belgium while calling them in