Awesome video. Actually the reason that one color that bleeds out leaving the hard ledges is because there's a Phthalocyanine pigment in it. It's not made with 100 percent gemstone, but the gemstones used are 100 percent real. They use the cheeper phthalo, quin or other like pigments with the small amount of powdered gemstones in the Premetek line of watercolor paint. A lab tech person on Instagram took the samples and chemically analyzed several of the Daniel Smith Premetek line and found Phthalocyanine pigments were used with gemstones and other like pigments. Those Phthalo and quin pigments mixed with very granular mineral pigments actually seems to look more stunning with color separation going on. More separation happens than combining two granulating pigments. Rose of Ultramarine really separates because it's a mix using a Quinacrine and a Granulating Ultramarine. I love playing with the most granulating pigments mixing with the most transparent non granulating pigments. Or putting two granulating ones together with only one extremely transparent, non granulating pigment to see triple colors going on.
Thank you for explaining this! I try to use mostly non-toxic or sustainable pigments. I am also trying to learn how different pigments interact and mix, beyond what color/hue they make. I find it extremely frustrating that Daniel Smith tries to make us believe that the paint is made from only ground gemstones. It's deceptive, misleading, and just plain rude to hide the pigments from artists. They seem more interested in making a profit than enriching artists with knowledge about the products they interact and create with. Any paint company can analyze it and find out exactly what is used to make it, so it is not about hiding the secret recipe from competitors. The only purpose is to make artists think they are using something rare, valuable, or special. In a world with environmental and health concerns, we don't need marketing romance, we simply need the truth.
@@wildflower1397Actually, I think they add Thalos or Quins is that not all rocks are of the same quality. The additions help keep batches closer to their model. Btw, I had heard that the sleeping beauty mines are no longer producing. This is the end of the line.
A long-time and well-respected teacher of mine recommended Mission Gold paint when I first began exploring watercolors. My first purchase was the 34 color set and as I began exploring mixing, I quickly purchased the 34 set of pure pigments. I never regret that purchase, as the paint is beautiful quality and the single pigment set has especially helped me in my learning of mixing and color theory. I was thrilled to see you use them for this video. After mixing for years now, I figured out that so many of the 'convenience' mixes were possible with what I had purchased at the beginning. I feel like Dorothy from 'The Wizard of Oz' in that, "You had it alll the time..." That isn't to say that I don't love exploring (and purchasing!) beautiful convenience colors. But videos like this are so helpful. The Sleeping Beauty color is beautiful (I am partial to aquas and teals) and I appreciate your taking the time to share your findings with us. I will certainly give it a go and thank you so much. Awesome video. :)
Thank you, I love the nostalgia in that. I need to spend some more time with them, they do rewet so nicely and the pure pigment set is a nice collection of colors.
@@ClarkFineArt I find that I really like the honey-based watercolors. They really rewet so beautifully. My favorite brands are M. Graham, Roman Szmal, and the Mission Gold colors. Although I also love the Schminke granulating colors as well as some of the DS Primatek and their specialty colors. (What can I say? I am addicted as most of us are!) Thanks again! 😁
Looks like you nailed it! Thanks for the work and video. [I want to mention that Michael Harding has a Soft White that's not so cold as Titanium but not as "Pastel Raw Umber-ish" tinted as Buff Titanium. If nothing else, you can use it for highlights that are more natural than Titanium White.]
I loved this video! Color mixing is so fun and challenging. When you started talking about mixing in the white colors, I predicted somehow that you'd end up using Buff Titanium, lol. Your color was awesome! I actually do have a tube of Sleeping Beauty Turquoise.I had it on an old dot card and fell in love with it. I've haven't used it much, even though I've put it into a palette. What do you use it for in your paintings? Is it too granulating for skies? I haven't been doing many landscapes lately - I like to do florals, mostly.
I just ordered the Sleeping Beauty Turquoise for this video because a Patron requested it for a mix, it will definitely be in my palette and I could see myself using it to mix in with other colors in landscapes. I’d bet it would mix up some beautiful greens to provide texture in some cooler distant grass or trees. I would probably try it for painting water and yes, I use other granulating colors in skies sometimes, I would try it (at least once 😉). I can only say how I think it would be good because at this point I have only swatched it to mix up a color that matches it. I am thrilled I had the request otherwise I may never have ordered it and it is beautiful!
Hello. Very interesting play with the pigments. I wonder, how do you use those colours in your paintings? All those blue-ish/turquoise-ish colours are usually used as an addition to something and almost never on their own. And since it’s almost the same - why to buy exactly this? I bought Lapis Lazuli myself (very expensive) and continue using Ultramarine (synthetic pigment) still 😅
Lapis Lazuli is another on my list to try. I find that I will use these colors in landscapes or seascapes for water or mixes. The bluish turquoise colors on my palette are not used as much. I need to explore how I can incorporate them more and definitely will with the addition of the sleeping beauty turquoise. I got it because this video was requested by a patron, I otherwise may not have purchased it, now that I have seen it, I’m thrilled to have it and can’t wait to see what colors I can mix with it and how it will work itself into future landscapes. I wonder if the cool blue hues will lend themselves in some winter landscapes. I will be experimenting with it for sure!
I have Winsor Newton's version, one is a is of Cobalt Turquoise as PB28 + PB36 and Cobalt Green Deep as PG26 (not B36?). Sounds like it would be nice to mix a half pan of this to keep aside for fun. They look similar on my screen but unfortunately you can't trust screens. :(
So I was curious, and started playing around with trying to create this color dupe as well (because, grinding Turquoise into a paint makes me kinda...sad. Also/Plus, EXPENSIVE! LOL) I have the same 24 pure pigments set from Mission Gold, so I used the same PB 28 > Cobalt Turquoise, primarily. I also mixed in some Amazonite Genuine by D.S., since I had that - and it produces the exact same shade, but MORE translucent, and NOT GRANULATING! Which I kinda love, TBH. Alternatively, for a slightly brighter & blue-er option (NOT dark/deep, like your earlier examples with the Cerulean Blue Chromium), I also tried adding the same Cobalt Turquoise with D.S.'s Manganese Blue Hue < PB 15; and then added in some dabs of Titanium White
Isn’t mixing fun!?! Interesting mix, I love how there is more than one way to get to the results we are trying to achieve. I don’t have the Manganese Blue hue or the Amazonite Genuine. I will have to take a look at both of those.
good luck with it. I just shared a post on my page on facebook facebook.com/clarkfineart of how the mix mixes with another pigment vs the original, even when you use this mix of this hue and add it like you would the original it seems to turn out the same hues as well. It is definitely worth a try if you have the pigments I used for mixing.
I have to wonder if they get this pigment from here in Arizona because it is the exact color of the natural turquoise from the Navajo reservation in northern Arizona. I would absolutely kill to have even a quarter pan of this to work with.
I read somewhere that DS does get the turquoise from Arizona!! I remember because I was a little shocked as most pigments are sourced from other countries and I thought it was so neat that they were buying it here. Hopefully, helping people. I used to work on the Navajo Nation in helping the education department. It was hard and long trip (last flight seats 4 and the pilot handled luggage, tickets, everything!!) but it still remains one of my favorite places. One woman took me all over the area sharing the history, some of it was horrible and she remembered when they separated children from parents and put them in public schools….). I’ll never forget the canyon that so many families hid in its caverns/holes in the walls to protect their children from being taken. You could feel the atmosphere of it…moving me to tears. They didn’t even try to communicate with them. Parents had no idea what they were doing with their children. I love some of the people I met and the beautiful country and the original food some would cook for me when I visited… Long story….it’s why I remember it was mined/purchased in Arizona Thank you for humoring me and letting me share some great memories too!
Lovely mix, but you used crafter/artist math. Buy 3 tubes of paint to mix one. If the total cost of the 3 tubes is less than the single tube, then yes, mix away. Otherwise, it's more cost effective to buy the single convenience tube. Especially when one of the major art stores have a paint sale.
I believe the request was coming from an artist that has a variety of other colors already in her collection and wondering if she could mix it from something she already had versus purchasing the one more expensive tube. So the original request was can I mix it and save money? However, you are correct, if you do not already have the pigments in the mix, the actual tube could be the better choice, but then again 3 tubes at 45 ml just over $30 vs one tube at 15ml at almost $23, what's the best choice?? I can't answer for others but you are right the crafter/artist math can come in to play there.
Very successful investigation! Also enjoyed seeing the process, plenty of interesting results there too. I took a look at your link for the Mijello… it shows cob turquoise as code w590 (b28), yet on Jackson’s open stock Mijello cob turq w590 is listed as a b28y3w6 mix - I wonder which one is correct? Maybe comparing your w590 with a mix of b28y3w6 could be a future ‘let’s mix…’ test ;)
Oh that is interesting! I went to have a look at that. The tube I have does not anything other than PB28 when you activate it the color doesn’t look like one that has white in it either. I do see what you are talking about at Jackson’s. I don’t know why they would add the PY3 and PW6 to it, this one is such a beautiful color with the single pigment in it. I hope they haven’t changed it and would wonder if they have what would replace it in the pure pigment set. I love the color as it is. I may have to investigate that a bit further and reach out to Mijello and inquire. Thank you for sharing that information.
If I don't have mission gold paint, to purchase the mission gold buff titanium, the cobalt green deep and the cobalt turquoise in 15 ml tubes would be $38.40US plus shipping. To buy a 15 ml tube of Daniel Smith Sleeping Beauty Turquoise is $21.12US plus shipping from Amazon, Blick, or Jerry's. The economics is a consideration both ways.
Yes that is true if you don’t have all the colors and pigments to create this mix. You can use the colors in the mix for more than just this mix. This mix was a special request, but your point is valid, if you don’t have any of the three pigments I used, getting the one pigment is the most economical if you just want something that looks like Sleeping Beauty Turquoise Genuine.
@@AFAskygoddessExactly. I bought my set of Mission Gold Pure pigment 24 on sale for $55. That's about 2:50 a tube from Amazon (free shipping). My thought process was that even if half the colors aren't great pigments or colors that I like it's still a good deal in the long run. If that's too much money right now you should be able to get samples from a friend if you're part of a watercolor group. ❤
I love Mission Gold paints. It’s most economical when purchased in the sets on Amazon. The 34 and 36 sets are incredible values. The worst watercolor value I ever purchased was Sleeping Beauty Turquoise. The most expensive tube ever. Hard as a rock! Thoroughly unpleasant to use. I gave it away.
@@deborahrodney6562 so far the one I poured seems to be re-wetting ok, I hope it doesn’t get worse as I go. I know my tube of Daniel Smith Hematite dried hard as a rock and doesn’t rewet well. I liked the color but I’m considering trying it in stick form to see if that will rewet easier. If the Sleeping Beauty Turquoise begins to act the same it will also be very disappointing considering the price! In that case I wouldn’t buy it again, I would mix the hue like I did in this video if I wanted that color. I agree, when the Mission Gold goes on sale on Amazon it is a great deal!
I love you found some gorgeous mixes along with the Sleeping Beauty. Thank you for thinking of us and sharing because I love your PG50 and both PB36’s…. Just gorgeous and then adding the buff titanium…. I’ll definitely try mixing this. You definitely have determination and tenacity!! I think I’ve lost some in my older age….lol I really appreciate the time and effort you put into figuring this out and sharing your beautiful discoveries ❤
Wow!!!! You really got almost an exact match with that mix! I've been contemplating purchasing the Sleeping beauty Turquoise for quite a while now, so...this really gives me something to think about! 🤔
If you have the pigments for the hue, mixing it might be the way to go. I have a post on my community tab where I show it mixed with another pigment (PR122) and compare it to SBTG mixed with the same pigment and they also look the same so at least in that case the hue works the same in mixes as well.
I hope you love it. Check my community tab for my latest post showing how my hue mixed up with another color in comparison to the original! www.youtube.com/@ClarkFineArt/community
Interesting video about mixes. Just to note, PB28 is not a hue, it’s an alternative cobalt teal/turquoise pigment. Some brands like White nights, Rembrand and Mijello use it instead of PG50, but the colour is overall the same.
Mission Gold calls the color “cobalt turquoise hue”, perhaps they do that because it is an alternate pigment to the traditional “cobalt turquoise” pigment. It is definitely a lot more blue leaning than the PG50 Cobalt Teal Blue that I have from Daniel Smith and worked perfectly for this mix.
@@ClarkFineArt I got curious about this and went to check my single pigment box and catalogue, found something interesting. At the time I bought the pure pigment set, it did come with Cobalt turquoise (PB28). There was no hue in the name. Now checking at Jackson’s, I see they don’t have this version of the colour anymore. The current version which has the word hue in the tube has the following formulation: PB28, PY3, PW6, that is why they call it hue, because it’s not pure PB28 pigment like before.
@coloredcarol8074 Mijello got back to me, their response about the Cobalt Turquoise was "Hello, The W590 product has undergone a color change, and the current production uses PB28." So Cobalt Turquoise of just PB28 is the current formulation. They did recommend checking the label to be sure if you have the older or newer formulation, but currently it is only manufactured with PB28. I hope that help. Mine says "hue" at the end but it is only PB28 on the label.
@@ClarkFineArt btw - I love your videos! SOO informative on the pigments and hues, etc! 😊. another question for you. What do you like to use as a palette for putting your Daniel Smith into? The same -- meeden airtight?
My Daniel Smith watercolors are in a large Meeden metal palette that I have outgrown, I am currently looking for it's replacement to keep the bulk of my DS collection together. You can find the palette I currently have here: go.meedenart.com/3UpWKzi and if you are interested in anything from Meeden, ordering directly from them with code Clark10 at checkout will give you a discount.
I don't know if you can. but I would love to see you can to make dupe of art philosophy watercolor confections wintage pastels set. from what I found about them is they are not professional paints. they are student paints. but I love colors they have. but I don't want to sell any art I make with them. and trying to found any dupe of them are hard. I only found 2 so far,
I would have to see the set and what information I can gather on them and the pigments they are made of. I have one confection set but it is not that one. If you have the info you could message me with it and I would love to take a look.
@@ClarkFineArt I do have pigment information on them. I can sand it to you. I don't have the set. A friend has it and she let me play with it. And do you want a email or massage?
@@Raven56875 you can message me with the information. You can drop a comment in the art group facebook.com/share/T5pqXM2p124HsMZV/?mibextid=K35XfP or reach me through my facebook page facebook.com/clarkfineart or on instagram, where I am @clark_fineart
I need to paint with them more but so far they seem lovely. I would watch for them to be on sale, I have seen them fluctuate by about $20, with prices ranging from $60-$80+
Wow! You are amazing. I'm so glad you did this and walked us through the process. I was astonished and delighted when you went to the Mission Gold. DaVinci is having a sale right now and I wanted to purchase things from them that I don't have in my Mission Gold set, so I've been looking it over. ❤ Thank you so much for doing this.😊
@@windywednesday4166 the original Sleeping Beauty Turquoise is supposed to be a single pigment color and I showed the original in comparison to the mix. However, do you mean how does the hue look when mixed with another color vs the sleeping beauty turquoise being mixed with the same color?
@@ClarkFineArt Yes, that is exactly what I mean. If I mix a Cobalt turquoise, PB28, with a rose magenta, PR122, I get a beautiful 'lively' purple with the pigment split. I'm just wondering how the original would compare with the 'copy cat' in a mix.
@@windywednesday4166 I still have some of the mix I will have to try that and let you know. Are you in the art group on Facebook or MeWe? If so I can post pictures there. facebook.com/share/C8zvoeMBRGxGhjAf/?mibextid=K35XfP
Awesome video. Actually the reason that one color that bleeds out leaving the hard ledges is because there's a Phthalocyanine pigment in it. It's not made with 100 percent gemstone, but the gemstones used are 100 percent real. They use the cheeper phthalo, quin or other like pigments with the small amount of powdered gemstones in the Premetek line of watercolor paint. A lab tech person on Instagram took the samples and chemically analyzed several of the Daniel Smith Premetek line and found Phthalocyanine pigments were used with gemstones and other like pigments. Those Phthalo and quin pigments mixed with very granular mineral pigments actually seems to look more stunning with color separation going on. More separation happens than combining two granulating pigments. Rose of Ultramarine really separates because it's a mix using a Quinacrine and a Granulating Ultramarine. I love playing with the most granulating pigments mixing with the most transparent non granulating pigments. Or putting two granulating ones together with only one extremely transparent, non granulating pigment to see triple colors going on.
Thank you. I’m not sure about anything else being in the Sleeping Beauty Turquoise, but I love the way this mix turned out.
Thank you for explaining this! I try to use mostly non-toxic or sustainable pigments. I am also trying to learn how different pigments interact and mix, beyond what color/hue they make. I find it extremely frustrating that Daniel Smith tries to make us believe that the paint is made from only ground gemstones. It's deceptive, misleading, and just plain rude to hide the pigments from artists. They seem more interested in making a profit than enriching artists with knowledge about the products they interact and create with. Any paint company can analyze it and find out exactly what is used to make it, so it is not about hiding the secret recipe from competitors. The only purpose is to make artists think they are using something rare, valuable, or special. In a world with environmental and health concerns, we don't need marketing romance, we simply need the truth.
That's a great explanation. I'm going to try the mixing double granulating with transparents, too
Thank you for sharing this! Interesting information….
@@wildflower1397Actually, I think they add Thalos or Quins is that not all rocks are of the same quality. The additions help keep batches closer to their model. Btw, I had heard that the sleeping beauty mines are no longer producing. This is the end of the line.
A long-time and well-respected teacher of mine recommended Mission Gold paint when I first began exploring watercolors. My first purchase was the 34 color set and as I began exploring mixing, I quickly purchased the 34 set of pure pigments. I never regret that purchase, as the paint is beautiful quality and the single pigment set has especially helped me in my learning of mixing and color theory. I was thrilled to see you use them for this video. After mixing for years now, I figured out that so many of the 'convenience' mixes were possible with what I had purchased at the beginning. I feel like Dorothy from 'The Wizard of Oz' in that, "You had it alll the time..." That isn't to say that I don't love exploring (and purchasing!) beautiful convenience colors. But videos like this are so helpful. The Sleeping Beauty color is beautiful (I am partial to aquas and teals) and I appreciate your taking the time to share your findings with us. I will certainly give it a go and thank you so much. Awesome video. :)
Thank you, I love the nostalgia in that. I need to spend some more time with them, they do rewet so nicely and the pure pigment set is a nice collection of colors.
@@ClarkFineArt I find that I really like the honey-based watercolors. They really rewet so beautifully. My favorite brands are M. Graham, Roman Szmal, and the Mission Gold colors. Although I also love the Schminke granulating colors as well as some of the DS Primatek and their specialty colors. (What can I say? I am addicted as most of us are!) Thanks again! 😁
Wow, that's amazing! I never thought about trying to mix a Primatek. I think I'll try my fave, Sodalite. Thanks for this!
Ooh Sodalite is one of my favorites too!!
If you figure out how to mix will you please share it with her so she can share with us??? I, along with so many others, love Sodalite…❤
Looks like you nailed it! Thanks for the work and video. [I want to mention that Michael Harding has a Soft White that's not so cold as Titanium but not as "Pastel Raw Umber-ish" tinted as Buff Titanium. If nothing else, you can use it for highlights that are more natural than Titanium White.]
I will have to look into that. Thanks for the info.
Sounds great! Thank you for sharing this with us ❤
Just found your channel and love watch paint drying! LOL 😆
Join in live on Thursdays and you can paint along most weeks. Glad you found the channel, welcome!
I loved this video! Color mixing is so fun and challenging. When you started talking about mixing in the white colors, I predicted somehow that you'd end up using Buff Titanium, lol. Your color was awesome! I actually do have a tube of Sleeping Beauty Turquoise.I had it on an old dot card and fell in love with it. I've haven't used it much, even though I've put it into a palette. What do you use it for in your paintings? Is it too granulating for skies? I haven't been doing many landscapes lately - I like to do florals, mostly.
I just ordered the Sleeping Beauty Turquoise for this video because a Patron requested it for a mix, it will definitely be in my palette and I could see myself using it to mix in with other colors in landscapes. I’d bet it would mix up some beautiful greens to provide texture in some cooler distant grass or trees. I would probably try it for painting water and yes, I use other granulating colors in skies sometimes, I would try it (at least once 😉). I can only say how I think it would be good because at this point I have only swatched it to mix up a color that matches it. I am thrilled I had the request otherwise I may never have ordered it and it is beautiful!
Hello. Very interesting play with the pigments. I wonder, how do you use those colours in your paintings? All those blue-ish/turquoise-ish colours are usually used as an addition to something and almost never on their own. And since it’s almost the same - why to buy exactly this? I bought Lapis Lazuli myself (very expensive) and continue using Ultramarine (synthetic pigment) still 😅
Lapis Lazuli is another on my list to try. I find that I will use these colors in landscapes or seascapes for water or mixes. The bluish turquoise colors on my palette are not used as much. I need to explore how I can incorporate them more and definitely will with the addition of the sleeping beauty turquoise. I got it because this video was requested by a patron, I otherwise may not have purchased it, now that I have seen it, I’m thrilled to have it and can’t wait to see what colors I can mix with it and how it will work itself into future landscapes. I wonder if the cool blue hues will lend themselves in some winter landscapes. I will be experimenting with it for sure!
I have Winsor Newton's version, one is a is of Cobalt Turquoise as PB28 + PB36 and Cobalt Green Deep as PG26 (not B36?). Sounds like it would be nice to mix a half pan of this to keep aside for fun. They look similar on my screen but unfortunately you can't trust screens. :(
Yes it is hard to trust screens and cameras don’t always get things 100% but the mix and the original definitely looked almost identical.
So I was curious, and started playing around with trying to create this color dupe as well (because, grinding Turquoise into a paint makes me kinda...sad. Also/Plus, EXPENSIVE! LOL)
I have the same 24 pure pigments set from Mission Gold, so I used the same PB 28 > Cobalt Turquoise, primarily. I also mixed in some Amazonite Genuine by D.S., since I had that - and it produces the exact same shade, but MORE translucent, and NOT GRANULATING! Which I kinda love, TBH.
Alternatively, for a slightly brighter & blue-er option (NOT dark/deep, like your earlier examples with the Cerulean Blue Chromium), I also tried adding the same Cobalt Turquoise with D.S.'s Manganese Blue Hue < PB 15; and then added in some dabs of Titanium White
Isn’t mixing fun!?! Interesting mix, I love how there is more than one way to get to the results we are trying to achieve. I don’t have the Manganese Blue hue or the Amazonite Genuine. I will have to take a look at both of those.
Congrats 🎈
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Great job!
Thank you
@@ClarkFineArtI'll try to make some from the Mission Gold set plus the DS Buff
good luck with it. I just shared a post on my page on facebook facebook.com/clarkfineart of how the mix mixes with another pigment vs the original, even when you use this mix of this hue and add it like you would the original it seems to turn out the same hues as well. It is definitely worth a try if you have the pigments I used for mixing.
Thx so much! @@ClarkFineArt
@@vatiammatri2660 welcome
I have to wonder if they get this pigment from here in Arizona because it is the exact color of the natural turquoise from the Navajo reservation in northern Arizona. I would absolutely kill to have even a quarter pan of this to work with.
I haven’t looked into where they get it from, but it is a beautiful color.
I read somewhere that DS does get the turquoise from Arizona!! I remember because I was a little shocked as most pigments are sourced from other countries and I thought it was so neat that they were buying it here. Hopefully, helping people.
I used to work on the Navajo Nation in helping the education department. It was hard and long trip (last flight seats 4 and the pilot handled luggage, tickets, everything!!) but it still remains one of my favorite places.
One woman took me all over the area sharing the history, some of it was horrible and she remembered when they separated children from parents and put them in public schools….). I’ll never forget the canyon that so many families hid in its caverns/holes in the walls to protect their children from being taken. You could feel the atmosphere of it…moving me to tears. They didn’t even try to communicate with them. Parents had no idea what they were doing with their children.
I love some of the people I met and the beautiful country and the original food some would cook for me when I visited…
Long story….it’s why I remember it was mined/purchased in Arizona
Thank you for humoring me and letting me share some great memories too!
Thanks for sharing.
Lovely mix, but you used crafter/artist math. Buy 3 tubes of paint to mix one. If the total cost of the 3 tubes is less than the single tube, then yes, mix away. Otherwise, it's more cost effective to buy the single convenience tube. Especially when one of the major art stores have a paint sale.
I believe the request was coming from an artist that has a variety of other colors already in her collection and wondering if she could mix it from something she already had versus purchasing the one more expensive tube. So the original request was can I mix it and save money? However, you are correct, if you do not already have the pigments in the mix, the actual tube could be the better choice, but then again 3 tubes at 45 ml just over $30 vs one tube at 15ml at almost $23, what's the best choice?? I can't answer for others but you are right the crafter/artist math can come in to play there.
Very successful investigation! Also enjoyed seeing the process, plenty of interesting results there too. I took a look at your link for the Mijello… it shows cob turquoise as code w590 (b28), yet on Jackson’s open stock Mijello cob turq w590 is listed as a b28y3w6 mix - I wonder which one is correct? Maybe comparing your w590 with a mix of b28y3w6 could be a future ‘let’s mix…’ test ;)
Oh that is interesting! I went to have a look at that. The tube I have does not anything other than PB28 when you activate it the color doesn’t look like one that has white in it either.
I do see what you are talking about at Jackson’s. I don’t know why they would add the PY3 and PW6 to it, this one is such a beautiful color with the single pigment in it. I hope they haven’t changed it and would wonder if they have what would replace it in the pure pigment set. I love the color as it is. I may have to investigate that a bit further and reach out to Mijello and inquire. Thank you for sharing that information.
If I don't have mission gold paint, to purchase the mission gold buff titanium, the cobalt green deep and the cobalt turquoise in 15 ml tubes would be $38.40US plus shipping. To buy a 15 ml tube of Daniel Smith Sleeping Beauty Turquoise is $21.12US plus shipping from Amazon, Blick, or Jerry's. The economics is a consideration both ways.
Yes that is true if you don’t have all the colors and pigments to create this mix. You can use the colors in the mix for more than just this mix. This mix was a special request, but your point is valid, if you don’t have any of the three pigments I used, getting the one pigment is the most economical if you just want something that looks like Sleeping Beauty Turquoise Genuine.
If you bought 3 tubes of 15ml paint, you'd have 45ml of paint for $38.
@@AFAskygoddessExactly. I bought my set of Mission Gold Pure pigment 24 on sale for $55. That's about 2:50 a tube from Amazon (free shipping). My thought process was that even if half the colors aren't great pigments or colors that I like it's still a good deal in the long run. If that's too much money right now you should be able to get samples from a friend if you're part of a watercolor group. ❤
I love Mission Gold paints. It’s most economical when purchased in the sets on Amazon. The 34 and 36 sets are incredible values. The worst watercolor value I ever purchased was Sleeping Beauty Turquoise. The most expensive tube ever. Hard as a rock! Thoroughly unpleasant to use. I gave it away.
@@deborahrodney6562 so far the one I poured seems to be re-wetting ok, I hope it doesn’t get worse as I go. I know my tube of Daniel Smith Hematite dried hard as a rock and doesn’t rewet well. I liked the color but I’m considering trying it in stick form to see if that will rewet easier. If the Sleeping Beauty Turquoise begins to act the same it will also be very disappointing considering the price! In that case I wouldn’t buy it again, I would mix the hue like I did in this video if I wanted that color.
I agree, when the Mission Gold goes on sale on Amazon it is a great deal!
Awesome idea and your mix looks great!
Thanks
You are amazing. Great video.
Thank you. Glad you liked the video.
I love you found some gorgeous mixes along with the Sleeping Beauty. Thank you for thinking of us and sharing because I love your PG50 and both PB36’s….
Just gorgeous and then adding the buff titanium….
I’ll definitely try mixing this.
You definitely have determination and tenacity!! I think I’ve lost some in my older age….lol
I really appreciate the time and effort you put into figuring this out and sharing your beautiful discoveries ❤
Thank you. I am glad you are enjoying them.
I love these mixes
@@denisespillane9242 thanks
Wow!!!! You really got almost an exact match with that mix! I've been contemplating purchasing the Sleeping beauty Turquoise for quite a while now, so...this really gives me something to think about! 🤔
If you have the pigments for the hue, mixing it might be the way to go. I have a post on my community tab where I show it mixed with another pigment (PR122) and compare it to SBTG mixed with the same pigment and they also look the same so at least in that case the hue works the same in mixes as well.
Sleeping Beauty is one of the colors I really wanted but couldn't justify paying for. I will definitely give your mix a try!
I hope you love it. Check my community tab for my latest post showing how my hue mixed up with another color in comparison to the original! www.youtube.com/@ClarkFineArt/community
Interesting video about mixes. Just to note, PB28 is not a hue, it’s an alternative cobalt teal/turquoise pigment. Some brands like White nights, Rembrand and Mijello use it instead of PG50, but the colour is overall the same.
Mission Gold calls the color “cobalt turquoise hue”, perhaps they do that because it is an alternate pigment to the traditional “cobalt turquoise” pigment. It is definitely a lot more blue leaning than the PG50 Cobalt Teal Blue that I have from Daniel Smith and worked perfectly for this mix.
@@ClarkFineArt I got curious about this and went to check my single pigment box and catalogue, found something interesting. At the time I bought the pure pigment set, it did come with Cobalt turquoise (PB28). There was no hue in the name. Now checking at Jackson’s, I see they don’t have this version of the colour anymore. The current version which has the word hue in the tube has the following formulation: PB28, PY3, PW6, that is why they call it hue, because it’s not pure PB28 pigment like before.
@@coloredcarol8074 I have emailed the company to inquire, I will update if I get a reply.
@coloredcarol8074 Mijello got back to me, their response about the Cobalt Turquoise was "Hello, The W590 product has undergone a color change, and the current production uses PB28." So Cobalt Turquoise of just PB28 is the current formulation. They did recommend checking the label to be sure if you have the older or newer formulation, but currently it is only manufactured with PB28. I hope that help. Mine says "hue" at the end but it is only PB28 on the label.
@@ClarkFineArt I see. They probably didn’t bother to change the paint name despite using the Cobalt pigment. Strange.
PW6 is Titanium White while PW4 is Chinese White
Yes and PW6 Titanium white is more opaque than PW4 Chinese White
Awesome mix I didn’t get this one or even close on the guess
You did get PB36 just not the correct color (hue), the rest did remain a mystery. I love the guesses though.
where do you get those little mixing bowl/dish w brush rest at 16:39 ?
I meant to link them in the description because I often get asked that. These are them amzn.to/3V2WmHn
@@ClarkFineArt Thank you ! :)
@@Violet-ok3nl you are welcome.
@@ClarkFineArt btw - I love your videos! SOO informative on the pigments and hues, etc! 😊. another question for you. What do you like to use as a palette for putting your Daniel Smith into? The same -- meeden airtight?
My Daniel Smith watercolors are in a large Meeden metal palette that I have outgrown, I am currently looking for it's replacement to keep the bulk of my DS collection together. You can find the palette I currently have here: go.meedenart.com/3UpWKzi and if you are interested in anything from Meeden, ordering directly from them with code Clark10 at checkout will give you a discount.
Success ! May try it.
It is a beautiful hue
I don't know if you can. but I would love to see you can to make dupe of art philosophy watercolor confections wintage pastels set. from what I found about them is they are not professional paints. they are student paints. but I love colors they have. but I don't want to sell any art I make with them. and trying to found any dupe of them are hard. I only found 2 so far,
I would have to see the set and what information I can gather on them and the pigments they are made of. I have one confection set but it is not that one. If you have the info you could message me with it and I would love to take a look.
@@ClarkFineArt I do have pigment information on them. I can sand it to you. I don't have the set. A friend has it and she let me play with it. And do you want a email or massage?
@@Raven56875 you can message me with the information. You can drop a comment in the art group facebook.com/share/T5pqXM2p124HsMZV/?mibextid=K35XfP or reach me through my facebook page facebook.com/clarkfineart or on instagram, where I am @clark_fineart
@@ClarkFineArt awesome. Thank you
send. And I hope it helps :)
Great mix. I will give it a try. Now I have a reason to buy a set of Mission Gold paint.😊
I need to paint with them more but so far they seem lovely. I would watch for them to be on sale, I have seen them fluctuate by about $20, with prices ranging from $60-$80+
Thank you!
You are welcome! Thanks for suggesting this one!
I have Buff, but the other two I don't have. I checked and it is cheaper for me to buy the sleeping beauty...
You won't be disappointed in it if you like turquoise and granulation!
Love this mix, beautiful! I have the Mission Gold pure pigment set, so I’m going to give this a try. Thank you
You are so welcome!
Lovely!
Thanks
Wow! You are amazing. I'm so glad you did this and walked us through the process. I was astonished and delighted when you went to the Mission Gold. DaVinci is having a sale right now and I wanted to purchase things from them that I don't have in my Mission Gold set, so I've been looking it over. ❤ Thank you so much for doing this.😊
You are welcome. I’m glad you enjoyed it.
@ClarkFineArt Q: I have a question. How do mixes of the 'dupe' compare to mixes of the Original Sleeping Beauty?
@@windywednesday4166 the original Sleeping Beauty Turquoise is supposed to be a single pigment color and I showed the original in comparison to the mix. However, do you mean how does the hue look when mixed with another color vs the sleeping beauty turquoise being mixed with the same color?
@@ClarkFineArt Yes, that is exactly what I mean. If I mix a Cobalt turquoise, PB28, with a rose magenta, PR122, I get a beautiful 'lively' purple with the pigment split. I'm just wondering how the original would compare with the 'copy cat' in a mix.
@@windywednesday4166 I still have some of the mix I will have to try that and let you know. Are you in the art group on Facebook or MeWe? If so I can post pictures there. facebook.com/share/C8zvoeMBRGxGhjAf/?mibextid=K35XfP