"WHY THE FUCK NOT!" That's what Tyler is saying at the end. It's what Tyler was yelling over and over as he killed his dad who walked in and yelled "WHY!"
If I remember correctly he was the loner kid who killed parents then had a house party so I'd guess it was somthing that came out in the interview...... or it's artistic licence based on probability of why being a main/common question
@@lovettdeleted sure he told this in the court. AFAIU direct reason for the murder was that his parents tried to treat his drug addiction, by sending to rehabilitation centers or such. And he hated very much that they were trying to take back his drug journeys. Drug addiction should be treated carefully.
It's modern Industrial. The trappings are all there. Throbbing Gristles first record had a song about a serial killer sung in first person. This is what Industrial should have turned into years ago, instead of whiney goth club songs, with lyrics about relationships etc. As a life long Industrial and noise fan, I'm happy to see an actual transgressive industrial act use modern electronic pop tropes complete with euro pop singing etc. I'm very glad they exist.
Doesn't have to be apart of a genre or can be apart of which ever anyone feels.. matter of perspective and opinion.. doesn't have to belong to any or can to many.. art.. beauty in eye of the beholder
Sorry to be so off topic but does anyone know of a tool to log back into an Instagram account? I was dumb forgot my password. I would appreciate any help you can offer me
I went to High School with Tyler. I’ll never forget when this happened, it really shook the community up. And PSL is a place where everyone knows everyone. My ex was invited to the party because at the time there was NOTHING to do for teens so the fb post quickly got around to other teens at the time and everyone flocked there… we didn’t go. A couple other mutual friends from my class went. And I saw them on trial.. just crazy. People weren’t the same here bc nothing like that has ever happened here before. RIP Mary Jo and Blake. They were just your average everyday normal people. 💔
Tyler recently said Blake and Mary Jo were Saints when asked what kind of parents they were. I generally don't feel anything for people I don't know...but this whole thing makes me sad. Blake and Mary Jo, Tyler...all gone, sacrifices to absolutely nothing. He didn't kill them to throw a party, I don't understand why he did it... And I don't think Tyler really knows the whys and whatfors. Fckn shame the whole thing.
I am loyal to True Norwegian Black Metal, Obituary, Cradle of Filth and I FUCKIN love this band SKYND is the soundtrack for 2020.................who's ready for a fucking PURGE Bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!
The "Tyler" in this video portrays the persona almost perfectly. Kid could have a future in acting, for sure. That deranged look he has on his face when his dad sees him and what he's done.... chills!
Really excellent acting, definitely. This is so chilling. Somehow it gets to me so much more than the others... maybe because it's so recent and real, and so hard to comprehend. I could give you an explanation for the psychology of Richard Ramirez, even. Hadley, though? Damn. Why? Just why?
@@WynneL From his standpoint, he felt like his parents (his mother specifically) was way too strict on him and always assumed the worst out of him. Whenever he would ask for something, whether it was to hang out with his friends or asking for a new phone, he was denied. Eventually, this constant denial would lead to Tyler's resentment of his parents and him acting out. Tyler started stealing, staying out past curfew, coming home drunk, and telling his friends that his parents were awful to him and only put up a "nice front" when people outside of his immediate family were around. He started abusing drugs which only fueled his rage and warped his perception further. Still, people knew Tyler was an inherently "good" kid, so when he said he wanted to kill his parents, his friends dismissed it as nothing more than a morbid joke from a frustrated friend. Tyler even told his best friend, Mike, that even though he had thought about doing it, he could never bring himself to actually go through with it. Tensions continued to rise in the Hadley household and Tyler, continually being high on drugs, began planning on killing his parents, throwing one hell of a party, and then killing himself before word of the massacre spread. The day it happened, to be able to go through with it, Tyler took 3 tabs of ecstacy and listened to Lil Boosie's "Feel Lucky" to get himself "psyched up." Then he grabbed a claw hammer, stood behind his mom, who was working at her computer, for several minutes before finally hitting her and killing her. Tyler's dad heard the commotion, came to see what was going on, and Tyler began hitting him with the hammer. Tyler's dad asked him "Why?" repeatedly as Tyler kept hitting him. Tyler's response? "Why the fuck not?!" So, in conclusion, Tyler's twisted and warped logic regarding his parents being overprotective and restrictive was the catalyst in him killing his parents and throwing his party.
The way you guys tell the stories of those murders and psychopaths are so rich in details, imaginative and yet respectful towards the people involved. Congratulations! You've made me really see the bright side in the dark side and actually enjoyed it a bunch! Totally hooked here
Respectful? If I told my wife "Here's your fifty dollars, bitch, get in the car" their next song would be about her...because she would murdify my body.
@@YourOldPalDP I think Grace meant that Skynd isn't glorifying the killers or denigrating the victims; she is telling the story in a fact driven way. From what I read on Heidnik, that is how he talked to the women he kidnapped, so her saying that in the song is giving known facts instead of creative license.
@@YourOldPalDP That's literally what the killer said to most of his victims. SKYND use very specific elements and details of the particular crime in their songs to be very clear about who they're talking about, what kind of person the killers were, and the suffering from the victims. This isn't glorifying the killers in the least, it's using a terrible event and tragedy and turning it into dark art. Edit: spelling
Skynd gave my confidence back as a blind drummer and musician in general. This band helped me through my depression. I know topics like murder portrayed in music can be a little touchy but you'll do it amazingly. Thank you so much for everything you do.
Goosebumps at the end when "Tyler" mouths the words "why the fuck not", which is what he said to his dad after he asked him why he killed his mom. You guys are fucking brilliant
Skynds music is art. Well, researched and collaborated well. She is a medium for the victims. Its not any different then a nursery rhyme but full of truth, talent and killer aesthetic and jams Thank you Skynd and Father. Come to the USA ❤❤
You hide your obvious vocal talent behind effects, to create a mood. You hide your obvious beauty behind costume and makeup, to tell a story. You're one of the most interesting musical talents I've seen in a long time. And I love some truly weird shit. You're incredible. Keep doing what you're doing.
I have been studying killers for many years now and I cannot fully explain how much this band touches my soul......I love people who are not afraid to discuss the darker side of things!!!! I would so love to meet them!!!!
Me too. In all the videos there are so many obvious and hidden details about the cases, the lyrics fit perfectly, and most of it you can only understand when you´re into the case and know what happened. Otherwise it seems fractured and chaotic, but with more knowledge it all just fits so perfectly.
I love researching, learning, an understanding the darker side of life, it drives so many people and the majority of the world shoves it aside and ignores it. The world needs more people like us!
"Call it yin and yang, call it Sturm und Drang." Seriously one of the best and smartest lines in a song that I've heard in a while. Excellent lyrics, ma'am. Can't wait to finally see you and Father live!
just realized the shot at 1:32 looks a lot like the last supper, which is fitting if you think about it. the dinner where jesus announced one of his followers would betray him, like how tyler hosted a party where he showed the bodies to his best friend. idk
I'm 50 years old now. According to everything I've read, according to everyone I know, my "musical style" should have been locked in about 30 years ago, give or take a few years. But O MY GOD, I hear Skynd and I'm all *shuddershiverlove* Amazing sound, incredible working, and the way Skynd approaches the subject matter is (grrrr, sat here for 5 minutes and still can't put into words the way their approach to the subject matter makes me feel). Saying it's amazing and awesome and artistic just sounds hollow, I truly don't have words to properly express. Please oh please come to the Pacific Northwest, USA
Im 51. My music taste is unique, and includez music from 1000s of years ago to this very moment, from several genres, from all over the world. I agree with your comment. I feel u, I, and the rest of an alr8y huge fan base are witnessing an evolution of music/entertainment. This collab is GENIUS. And yes, she should sing more in her own voice.
BTW, Mr. Corax, if u feel it would be ok, get me on Fbook. I'd like to get some song/artist recommendations. I'm always looking for new & new2me artists, and i think i have a few you mite like. Chkout son luxe and/or glass animals.
2:55 til the end of the song totally encompasses what he must have been feeling. Pure adrenaline, and the music getting wild and faster at the end sounds like panic as everyone was leaving and him coming to the realization he was gonna be alone with the bodies. Freaky stuff
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I love this song. I love Marina Ortega! She's beautiful, dark, intense, dramatic, the whole band is packed with talent to the 🐟 gills. I think they deserve more recognition than they get, but they don't conform to mainstream media and mindless sheep. I appreciate your group. What you do is art.
That'd be cool! If I wasn't so paranoid about downloading the episodes I'd have made a video with AHS to at least one of her tracks now I've discovered her
Billie Eilish is about as creepy and dark as she can be while still being mainstream. The mainstream is too limited by the need of record companies to make money and their fear that taking artistic risks endanger that, it means sacrificing freedom of creative expression, and so not the best environment for artists to thrive in. I think Billie would have been better off underground, and I think in a few years, she'll probably feel that way too.
these six songs are the only songs i listen to,, i dropped Slipknot, Metallica and others,,,,,, SKYND music is the kind i can sing alone an chill out to a great beat .
@@Deviantel Can't say I agree. Lam and Hadley songs are on par to me, however both Remirez and Heidnik songs are superior to Jones and Knight songs. Knight seems the weakest of the 6, and Jones, while really great, doesn't really feel like a Jim Jones song at all.
@DatDapperDoggo man wtf does that have to do with the fact that they DID do that to Zheani? They can't even go to Australia anymore because of it. Facts have fuck all to do with ur struggles.
These murders happened on July 16, 2011, at 5 p.m., in Port St. Lucie, Florida. Tyler Hadley, 17, had severe mental problems. He takes 3 XTC pills and goes to his mother, Mary-Jo. He starts beating her with a hammer. Hearing screams, Tyler's father, Blake, runs to the scene. Tyler beats his father also to death. He spends three hours cleaning up the mess. Then, Tyler makes a Facebook post letting people know that he is hosting a party that night. About 60 people gather for the party. That night, Tyler shows his best friend, Michael Mandell, the master bedroom with the blood and the 2 bodies in that room. Tyler is sentenced to life in prison.
I live in Port St Lucie I vividly remember these murders it was the one time this town was actually noticed other than being filled with drug addicts and senior citizen homes Port St Lucie actually was on a word article in rolling Stone who would have fucking thought that great video though
I am subscribed to coffeehouse crime, a channel that had a video on this guy. I only now clued in as to why the name sounded familiar in this song. Holy. Fuck.
I could be wrong but I think that they said in an interview at Download that Katherine Knight wouldn't have a video, since Jim Jones and Tyler Hadley both have theirs and they said that the other songs in the album wouldn't have videos. Which is understandable since it takes a long time to make these videos. I think on her IG she was posting selfies in her outfits for this video back in...March I think? EDIT: They did say no video. The interview wasn't at Download though.
I should be sleeping right now to get up for work, yet here I am listening to different songs, reading the subject matter and then looking at the lyrics to make specific connections
The music is far greater than the tv show they they shovel . This happened les than 2 miles from our house I have a kid that went to school with him . Florida we do things differently here in the last free state .
I've never been so conflicted about an artist. I've been thinking about Skynd at work all day trying to work out if the lyrics and videos glorify or glamourise the events, or raise awareness and force people like me to work it out as art is meant to do. Anyone else?
idk.. the lyrics are actual words used in the events.. so facts isnt really glorifying.. im glad it doesnt get as many dislikes for sure tho.. its very hard to find original content with anything.. and they've made a whole new genre of music ♥
I’m so thankful for SKYND, I don’t have this empty alone feeling in my heart when I listen to SKYND🖤 ( I’ve gone through a sad tragedy as a child, SKYND helped me cope ) This world is not perfect, lots of bands avoid topics that SKYND embraces, SKYND is my hero!! 💋🖤♥️ I’m so in love with SKYND, wish I could see them live, for now I will continue to love & share them to everyone I come across! Thank you SKYND, sorry for TMI but your music truly made me feel better about what’s happened in my life.. 💋
I just saw them an hour ago in Toulouse. The premiered for Ice Nine Kills. I'm so glad I got to know them, they were so good. Such an amazing stage presence.
Oh, that sounds like the energy would have been unhinged with that lineup! Was it just those two, or was there a similar band to round it out? Envious of your experience, hoping to see them some day
There's a lot of people fascinated by that. Sadly it's a taboo and people assume we're fucking psychopaths because we're fascinated by them, so we just keep that for us instead :(.
Yeah one of my teacher was also fascinated by them, she pointed me towards Stéphane Bourgoin's work and i've been reading most of his books since. Funny thing is she's specialized in children books, but she got me into Mindhunter too. All of that to say it's not as weird as it seems Lol.
1:29 Such a perfect moment with this demon/god of death character standing there in the middle while everyone else around is indulging in hedonism. Like a powerful malevolent being running around corrupting people just basks in the glory of her achievement. Such a powerful moment. I also love how she's looking from 4:26 onwards. As if she's done here, destroyed the lives of this entire family and ready to move on to the next subjects to corrupt.
Indeed, at first I though she is more of a spectator to what Hadley did. But I also think she is kind of a demon character, driving him into the killing frenzy and the madness to party on and on an on, while he left the bodies rotting upstairs.
I am so addicted to Skynd right now. They are on constant repeat on my Spotify and I have seen their videos multiple times. As a criminal justice major, I feel like they write the soundtrack for my studies.
At 0:57 when u first see Skynd with the way her makeup and that smile done in all black is creepy looking, but so effin great! I'm so glad that I literally just stumbled upon Skynd with them being recommended to me and it was Columbine that I first heard and from that song on I was hooked. I've watched interviews with Skynd and how she decides what cases to cover as songs. I know some people think that they are just being disrespectful by making music out of such atrocities, but personally IMO I don't think they are trying to make light of any of these high profile cases. At least to me I don't find their songs any more disrespectful than the countless authors who aren't involved in any way, shape, or form with these cases and they go on to write books about these tragedies. If society were to try and censor all of the creative liberties that musicians, authors and countless others who use tragedies such as these to get the stories out there the world would be such a PG rated place n the victims stories would never really be known. I'm not sure if anything I just wrote makes sense, but it does to me or at least it did in my head as I was writing this.
I really like the back and forth lyrics hidden in here from victim to killer. "Oh my. Oh why. Not" His parents screamed why and Tyler responsed why not.
found this group because of the song name. he lived in my area so we heard a lot about this for years. then i listened to it and found a new favorite group. every song is awesome. would love to see them someday
whenever i talk about this song with someone i can never shut up about how much i love the 'sturm and drang' line. if you compare the case and Tyler's motives with the key aspects of the Sturm und Drang movement you see how amazing this reference is. Skynd is a genius for coming up with that 🖤
I comment this vid because this song was the first one I've heard and I like it. And I want to confess, it is absolutely what I've been looking for. I always loved stories about serial killers. I've read a lot of them, watched a lot of videos, interviews and so on. And now you make this music, full of the darkest energy it can be, and my devil inside is so happy now! I love it and I wish you endless inspiration. Do what you do, it's great and we all love it. My belarusian heart is yours ♥
Please come to Tennessee soon. I would literally "bang bang boogie boogie bang bang" somebody to see you guys in concert. Im a new but HUGE fan. I'll be buying a shirt for sure. Until you guys decide to show up and make my life a little better I guess the party goes ONNNNN AND ON AND ONNNNNNNNN AND ON AND ONNNNNNN AND ON AND ONN
Argh. Chills so hard when the chorus was going alongside that imagery of Tyler going after his dad. This entire video is shot beautifully, by the way. Good work as always, y'all.
Hey guys here! All you heard, at least once, those trendy / pop / hipHop people driving their cars with Volume Max ON and windows-opened. Today I did the same. And now 3 dense districts in my city knows What music they should listen this summer. Thank You S K Y N D. 1 year & 1 month of Journey With You. And it is still Magic
I just realized her reflection in the eye right in ther very beginning. Everytime you watch one of there videos, you always pick up something new and I love it.
Okay, I see a lot of people in the comments calling this respectful and I'm really interested in hearing your reasoning there. Two moments are often referenced by killers who take pride or other kinds of joy from what they did - the moment when the victims realized they would die and the moment life left the body. One of those two is in the video - twice. The frame at 4:00 is, as I see it, very noteworthy in terms of respect - or the lack of it I personally perceive. Hadley's elevated over the father and in a dynamic position. The father, meanwhile, stands there in what can be seen as a purposefully "derpy" or "goofy" position, especially in his reaction. There is no natural flinching, just an almost penguin-esque flapping of the hands that, even within slow-motion, feels dragged out and counterintuitive in terms of reacting to someone charging at you with a hammer. If we're arguing that this is solely rooted in the artistic intention, then what is the respectful part about said intention? Solely depicting how Hadley himself likely saw it is not respectful to the victims - at least not if said delusional, drug-induced perspective fully carries over to the framing which in this case - at least how I see it - seems to be the obvious intention. Then there's the scene where he smashes the hammer down repeatedly and is covered in the blood of his victims. This is reminiscent of horror movies and it plays into that exact voyeurism to show it. Again, I can't see how that is respectful. The fact that people in the comments are having !fun! with this, say they "feel less weird about getting excited talking about serial killers" and other statements that strongly point towards normalizing the morbid voyeurism that leads to groupies sending Dahmer or Manson love letters or harass the families' of victims to get their fix, shows to me that neither this song nor its accompanying video is truly intended to be respectful, but rather targetted at that fix exactly. I am curious to hear counterpoints - but if you reply to this, please stay civil and actually argue points and not just taste. This is about very real people and I think we owe it to them and everyone who had to suffer the consequences of people like T. Hadley to mindfully reflect on what we are doing when we create and consume artwork like Skynd's.
I have asked this basically in short form before, no one ever answers. I even went to watch interviews of the lead singer and band members to understand how they see from their point of view where they are helping the victims. She has claimed in interviews that she hates and does not co-sign on what these murders did and is not glorifying it, but isn't she though?! She even stated that she doesn't identify with them, but when asked another question directly if she had to choose one she identifies with she states Katherine Knight because she claims Katherine did everything she did out of love. If you know the true story of Katherine Knight she did not do it out of love this could be further from the truth. I would like to see someone actually do research on the band and share their point of view.What I don't understand why no one has spoken on this band about how they portray these murders and the contradiction by the lead singer. I think the one video they did on Gary Heidnik is a way better example of the lead singer's contradictions from what she has said in interviews. In the uncensored video of Gary Heidnik the lead singer actually joins in helping the killer commit crimes and is shown photographing him while he does it and laughing during. If this video bothers you watch that one, because it is way worse. The huge problem with it I will admit their music does sound good, but if they portrayed it differently than maybe I could get on board with what they are claiming they are trying to do with these videos. I even tweeted and posted to Sarah Hawkins whom is against glorifying real life murders, but she has never responded to me. I even replied to a tweet months ago where Sarah asked for video ideas, but yet is still not made a video on them.
I don't know who calls this respectful? If you find this disrespectful, I can see why. I don't think Skynd makes the music to offer respect or disrespect to the people, just to display the crimes musically. Also maybe the person depicting the father wasn't a very good actor and couldn't display emotion or action of how a person would react in that situation. About the comments, there are horrible people everywhere that do fantasize/romanticize about serial killers, but there are also other people that are fascinated in the actions and cases of other humans or just enjoy the music. Of course this song will attract the mix of people (I for one enjoy the music). *Warning* Skynd is also releasing a new video tomorrow of the Columbine massacre, and that will definitely bring in the mix (as you may be aware of the Columbiners who glorify those killers.) There are opinions of everything and everyone thinks their own way, they perceive things differently and it's okay. You see this to be negative and I understand why, people enjoy this song and I understand. I understand that people are fascinated and study on cases and I understand that there are people that glorify or romanticize them. Skynd makes their art as how they want it, people see the art and take it how they want it. I just say to understand that people are different, and I also dont condone glorifying/romantasizing killers (there just are those kind of people out there just like the killers.)
@@TheLiana1102 I know about Katherine Knight and that answer makes me shake my head, to be honest. That wasn't love at any point. Makes me wonder whether the high artistical quality in Skynd's music hides a shallow point of view. I mean, whether or not someone identifies with the criminal is a matter of reason and approach, imo. It's important we acknowledge that these people aren't random mutants popping up out of nowhere but very real human beings who were shaped as much by their surroundings as they were by their own brains. Milgram's experiment, at the latest, showed that we all have the potential to go dark. Sympathies, however, are a different ballpark and I don't think liking or even glorifying any kind of murderer can ever be condoned. I appreciate you took the time to write a reply - especially since people didn't reply to you at any point. Came back to edit: I just found an interview where she explains her reasoning a bit more and I must say, I can see her point. What do you think? www.hysteriamag.com/skynd-criminal-mind/
@@wilfridoramirez1339 Some people in the comments do. I scrolled for a bit to see what people were saying. As I see it, just liking the music doesn't morally cover it. I like the music too - and I did watch the Columbine video. However, I'm still more than careful about digging deeper there and only doing so to get a feeling for the band's moral approach. Enjoyment is a mundane thing, even moreso if it happens on the backs of real suffering - so while I'm not opposed to horrifying music or videos, I think it needs a LOT of empathy and awareness to use material to the likes of Skynd's choice. It is one thing to be curious about and fascinated by the darkness of the human mind - it is another to capitalize on real people's grief and pain to scratch that itch. So, for me, it's not about the nutcases only who romantisize killers. Quite the opposite, really, I'm interested in people who are still aware of the reality behind it all and empathize with the victims and their families (which is a lost cause with the groupie-kind anyway) and how they'd argue their case. The Columbine video, so far, is the only one that properly frames what happened in my opinion, albeit even with that one Skynd appearently couldn't resist throwing in some "tasty bits" for the edgy audience. I enjoy the music, but I don't want to really give into that side of it until I'm really sure the band approaches this with empathy and respect because "lulz, it's fun" is a shit explanation for something that is far beyond the harmless realm of fiction. So, essentially, by asking this question, I'm simply trying to see if people who spend as much thought on the what and why of things have something that morally covers it or if the choice with Skynd is a simple "Either you give a shit and don't listen or you decide not to give a flying fuck and do whatever."
Saw you last weekend in Brussels. I know I heard this song before. Stumbled upon it in the past but forgot the name/ band. Glad you were at the AB. Now I found it back.
You're one of the best and more creative bands i've listened so far. It's truly amazing how you blend the mind of a psychopath with this crazy (and awesome) music you do. I loved Chapter 2, waiting for Chapter 3 haha Cheers from Brazil. ❤
I'm a big fan of SKYND.. no doubt about the power of this type of music... i love it... but i have to say that the actor who plays Tyler Hadley is particularly good... i would like to see him in a Hollywood movie or a good series ... I hope this clip will propel him into an acting career. (message from France). Je suis carrément fan de SKYND .. aucun doute sur le pouvoir de ce type de musique... j'adore... mais je dois dire que l'acteur qui incarne Tyler Hadley est particulièrement bon... j'aimerais le voir dans film Hollywoodien ou une bonne série ... j'espère que ce clip le propulsera dans une carrière d'acteur. (message depuis la France).
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"WHY THE FUCK NOT!" That's what Tyler is saying at the end. It's what Tyler was yelling over and over as he killed his dad who walked in and yelled "WHY!"
So glad someone else saw that. I've spent forever trying to figure out what he was saying and mouthed it to myself and realized this.
wait but how did they know he said that if both the people who were there died...
If I remember correctly he was the loner kid who killed parents then had a house party so I'd guess it was somthing that came out in the interview...... or it's artistic licence based on probability of why being a main/common question
@@lovettdeleted sure he told this in the court. AFAIU direct reason for the murder was that his parents tried to treat his drug addiction, by sending to rehabilitation centers or such. And he hated very much that they were trying to take back his drug journeys. Drug addiction should be treated carefully.
@@uprola yah, at least with dignity.
"What music genre are you listening to?" - "I have literally no idea"
Horror Trance
It's modern Industrial. The trappings are all there. Throbbing Gristles first record had a song about a serial killer sung in first person. This is what Industrial should have turned into years ago, instead of whiney goth club songs, with lyrics about relationships etc. As a life long Industrial and noise fan, I'm happy to see an actual transgressive industrial act use modern electronic pop tropes complete with euro pop singing etc. I'm very glad they exist.
Doesn't have to be apart of a genre or can be apart of which ever anyone feels.. matter of perspective and opinion.. doesn't have to belong to any or can to many.. art.. beauty in eye of the beholder
I think this music, at the end, is only R'nR, fucked old Rock and Roll. God bless Skynd.
Sorry to be so off topic but does anyone know of a tool to log back into an Instagram account?
I was dumb forgot my password. I would appreciate any help you can offer me
This band is so underrated... Maybe because people don't like talking about murder.. These guys are bold enough to make a theater out of it.
I went to High School with Tyler. I’ll never forget when this happened, it really shook the community up. And PSL is a place where everyone knows everyone. My ex was invited to the party because at the time there was NOTHING to do for teens so the fb post quickly got around to other teens at the time and everyone flocked there… we didn’t go. A couple other mutual friends from my class went. And I saw them on trial.. just crazy. People weren’t the same here bc nothing like that has ever happened here before. RIP Mary Jo and Blake. They were just your average everyday normal people. 💔
That’s wild 😢
Tyler recently said Blake and Mary Jo were Saints when asked what kind of parents they were. I generally don't feel anything for people I don't know...but this whole thing makes me sad. Blake and Mary Jo, Tyler...all gone, sacrifices to absolutely nothing. He didn't kill them to throw a party, I don't understand why he did it... And I don't think Tyler really knows the whys and whatfors. Fckn shame the whole thing.
@@at0micwerew0lf I did hear in other sources they were sort of strict.
I listen to black and death metal and have never felt this uneasy...
I am loyal to True Norwegian Black Metal, Obituary, Cradle of Filth and I FUCKIN love this band SKYND is the soundtrack for 2020.................who's ready for a fucking PURGE Bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!
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But why? This is great, no.... its phenomenal story telling through song
Shits demonic
@@WolfgangHood8404FMF I’m always down
The "Tyler" in this video portrays the persona almost perfectly. Kid could have a future in acting, for sure. That deranged look he has on his face when his dad sees him and what he's done.... chills!
Really excellent acting, definitely. This is so chilling. Somehow it gets to me so much more than the others... maybe because it's so recent and real, and so hard to comprehend. I could give you an explanation for the psychology of Richard Ramirez, even. Hadley, though? Damn. Why? Just why?
@@WynneL From his standpoint, he felt like his parents (his mother specifically) was way too strict on him and always assumed the worst out of him. Whenever he would ask for something, whether it was to hang out with his friends or asking for a new phone, he was denied. Eventually, this constant denial would lead to Tyler's resentment of his parents and him acting out.
Tyler started stealing, staying out past curfew, coming home drunk, and telling his friends that his parents were awful to him and only put up a "nice front" when people outside of his immediate family were around. He started abusing drugs which only fueled his rage and warped his perception further.
Still, people knew Tyler was an inherently "good" kid, so when he said he wanted to kill his parents, his friends dismissed it as nothing more than a morbid joke from a frustrated friend. Tyler even told his best friend, Mike, that even though he had thought about doing it, he could never bring himself to actually go through with it.
Tensions continued to rise in the Hadley household and Tyler, continually being high on drugs, began planning on killing his parents, throwing one hell of a party, and then killing himself before word of the massacre spread. The day it happened, to be able to go through with it, Tyler took 3 tabs of ecstacy and listened to Lil Boosie's "Feel Lucky" to get himself "psyched up." Then he grabbed a claw hammer, stood behind his mom, who was working at her computer, for several minutes before finally hitting her and killing her.
Tyler's dad heard the commotion, came to see what was going on, and Tyler began hitting him with the hammer. Tyler's dad asked him "Why?" repeatedly as Tyler kept hitting him.
Tyler's response? "Why the fuck not?!"
So, in conclusion, Tyler's twisted and warped logic regarding his parents being overprotective and restrictive was the catalyst in him killing his parents and throwing his party.
@@WynneL to quote Tyler "Why the fuck not?"
I was thinking the same thing! It’s very creepy but VERY well done!
@@wilhelminavonbismarck370 Very well done. Just as chilling today as it was when I made this comment a year ago.
The way you guys tell the stories of those murders and psychopaths are so rich in details, imaginative and yet respectful towards the people involved. Congratulations! You've made me really see the bright side in the dark side and actually enjoyed it a bunch! Totally hooked here
Respectful? If I told my wife "Here's your fifty dollars, bitch, get in the car" their next song would be about her...because she would murdify my body.
@@YourOldPalDP I think Grace meant that Skynd isn't glorifying the killers or denigrating the victims; she is telling the story in a fact driven way. From what I read on Heidnik, that is how he talked to the women he kidnapped, so her saying that in the song is giving known facts instead of creative license.
I’m kinda scared because I use to live down the road from Tyler Hadley! He’s a sick fuck!
@@seanmatthew4606 ever met him?
@@YourOldPalDP That's literally what the killer said to most of his victims. SKYND use very specific elements and details of the particular crime in their songs to be very clear about who they're talking about, what kind of person the killers were, and the suffering from the victims. This isn't glorifying the killers in the least, it's using a terrible event and tragedy and turning it into dark art.
Edit: spelling
thank you skynd for making this type of music. it's one of the main things that helps me cope with extremely angry urges and keeps me safe.
Skynd gave my confidence back as a blind drummer and musician in general.
This band helped me through my depression.
I know topics like murder portrayed in music can be a little touchy but you'll do it amazingly.
Thank you so much for everything you do.
I can't believe I JUST discovered them.
Goosebumps at the end when "Tyler" mouths the words "why the fuck not", which is what he said to his dad after he asked him why he killed his mom.
You guys are fucking brilliant
I just replayed the last bit of the video bc after 2 years listening, I never noticed that he was "saying" something at the end. W O W
I, too, have the goosebumps.
Who told you that?
False information
@@4700RSIN you sure?
Thanks Jonathan Davis for making me a SKYND fan.
Thats how i came across her as well
same
I came to SKYND from Nyxx 🤷🏻♂️
same, found Skynd long ago when I was searching TH-cam for songs featuring J Davis lol
Thanks SKYND for making me a SKYND fan.
True Crime queen is back!
i giggled :D
This was a psychological rollercoaster. The imagery fit the sound perfectly, beautifully done. Best thing to wake up to EVER!
Freak
I'd say, for my part, it would be nicer to wake up to you than this song. Each to their own though... 😆
divinefallfromgrace That’s just creepy dude.
This is just so infectious, it's so good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@divinefallfromgrace That was the weakest thing I've read in a long time.
This is what it means when an artist wants to perform their art but it's not what the mainstream wants
Skynds music is art. Well, researched and collaborated well. She is a medium for the victims. Its not any different then a nursery rhyme but full of truth, talent and killer aesthetic and jams Thank you Skynd and Father. Come to the USA ❤❤
You hide your obvious vocal talent behind effects, to create a mood. You hide your obvious beauty behind costume and makeup, to tell a story.
You're one of the most interesting musical talents I've seen in a long time. And I love some truly weird shit.
You're incredible. Keep doing what you're doing.
Well except for Richard Ramirez. Her vocal abilities are on full display there.
i think its dumb when people on a youtube directly address an artist with some stupidness like you have a job as ANR form Warner music lol
I have been studying killers for many years now and I cannot fully explain how much this band touches my soul......I love people who are not afraid to discuss the darker side of things!!!! I would so love to meet them!!!!
Me too. In all the videos there are so many obvious and hidden details about the cases, the lyrics fit perfectly, and most of it you can only understand when you´re into the case and know what happened. Otherwise it seems fractured and chaotic, but with more knowledge it all just fits so perfectly.
When I'm older I want to
Yeah we all have Netflix, I wouldn’t call it studying.
I’d love to collab 🔥
I love researching, learning, an understanding the darker side of life, it drives so many people and the majority of the world shoves it aside and ignores it. The world needs more people like us!
"Call it yin and yang, call it Sturm und Drang." Seriously one of the best and smartest lines in a song that I've heard in a while. Excellent lyrics, ma'am. Can't wait to finally see you and Father live!
Oh no way, someone has the same surname as me! But, agreed the lyrics are haunting aswell as genius
What's up Bethany Eldred? You are beautiful
Thanks..?
Bethany Eldred Just Saying.
she called it "ying and yang" because its just wrong lol
just realized the shot at 1:32 looks a lot like the last supper, which is fitting if you think about it. the dinner where jesus announced one of his followers would betray him, like how tyler hosted a party where he showed the bodies to his best friend. idk
Absolutely agree! Nice catch
I'm 50 years old now.
According to everything I've read, according to everyone I know, my "musical style" should have been locked in about 30 years ago, give or take a few years.
But O MY GOD, I hear Skynd and I'm all *shuddershiverlove*
Amazing sound, incredible working, and the way Skynd approaches the subject matter is (grrrr, sat here for 5 minutes and still can't put into words the way their approach to the subject matter makes me feel).
Saying it's amazing and awesome and artistic just sounds hollow, I truly don't have words to properly express.
Please oh please come to the Pacific Northwest, USA
Im 51. My music taste is unique, and includez music from 1000s of years ago to this very moment, from several genres, from all over the world. I agree with your comment. I feel u, I, and the rest of an alr8y huge fan base are witnessing an evolution of music/entertainment. This collab is GENIUS. And yes, she should sing more in her own voice.
BTW, Mr. Corax, if u feel it would be ok, get me on Fbook. I'd like to get some song/artist recommendations. I'm always looking for new & new2me artists, and i think i have a few you mite like. Chkout son luxe and/or glass animals.
I'm also from the Pacific Northwest.
your names a wh40k refrence, right?
I'm 32 years old and I feel the same way.
It has just the right amount of hammers and boogie-bang-bangs. Love it!
2:55 til the end of the song totally encompasses what he must have been feeling. Pure adrenaline, and the music getting wild and faster at the end sounds like panic as everyone was leaving and him coming to the realization he was gonna be alone with the bodies. Freaky stuff
SKYND + Marilyn Manson + Rob Zombie = my eardrums drooling. The musical collaboration that needs to happen.
👍
Manson ruined that by being a pos and Zombie's golden years were over when he filed a noise complaint to the skatepark he lives next to
fKK MANSON & ZOMbiE,. them hAS bEENs ARE SO OVERPLAYEd n OLd NEWs,.
shes MORE a h0RR0RC0RE ARtiSt,. ICP,. TWiZTid WUd bE The PERfECT fiTs fOR hER SKiLLz,. biTCh is MORE ~PSYCh0PAthiC~ThAN MOST PSYC0PAThiC REC0Rds ARTiSts EVER WERE,. DARK L0TUS ultimately the most on her level, as MORbidLY WiCKEd AS ThEY ARE/WERE,.
I love this song. I love Marina Ortega! She's beautiful, dark, intense, dramatic, the whole band is packed with talent to the 🐟 gills. I think they deserve more recognition than they get, but they don't conform to mainstream media and mindless sheep. I appreciate your group. What you do is art.
Its absolutely criminal that skynd has not been on Dragula as a guest.
Charles Manson-by Skynd ft Marilyn Manson needs to happen. This was awesome. Also would love to see your take on the Zodiac Killer.
Ink Ognito420 Charlie don’t surf.....
Ink Ognito420 I so agree
Yessss!!!
Sorry, charles manson wasnt a killer
I want dahmer
Dude, they need to get Skynd to do the soundtrack for American Horror Story
For Mindhunter also
@@cristinai.8099 Ohhh I forgot about Mindhunter! That would be pretty cool.
Yeah they needed to use her Richard Ramirez for this season but it wont happen.lol
That'd be cool!
If I wasn't so paranoid about downloading the episodes I'd have made a video with AHS to at least one of her tracks now I've discovered her
Skynd needs to stick to the real life good guys not TV. Go out and make them proud ;)
Kids: Billie Eilish is creepy
teens: Poppy is creepy
Skynd: hold my criminal study papers
Words Retain Power Come up with something more clever that gets 140 likes and a heart by Skynd.
Eric Williamson so true
Gen Xers: BANG BANG BOOGIE BOOGIE BANG BANG
who is poppy?
Billie Eilish is about as creepy and dark as she can be while still being mainstream. The mainstream is too limited by the need of record companies to make money and their fear that taking artistic risks endanger that, it means sacrificing freedom of creative expression, and so not the best environment for artists to thrive in. I think Billie would have been better off underground, and I think in a few years, she'll probably feel that way too.
these six songs are the only songs i listen to,, i dropped Slipknot, Metallica and others,,,,,, SKYND music is the kind i can sing alone an chill out to a great beat .
Love the selfie recreation
God all the songs for chapter 2.
Bring on chapter 3.
Right? Chapter I was great, but this is a huge step up. It's a masterpiece EP. :)
dude, we need that spicy video of Cat doing things
Bring on the entire book!
@@Deviantel Can't say I agree. Lam and Hadley songs are on par to me, however both Remirez and Heidnik songs are superior to Jones and Knight songs. Knight seems the weakest of the 6, and Jones, while really great, doesn't really feel like a Jim Jones song at all.
Die antwood are so creepy,
SKYND: Hold my hacksaw.
But die antwoord is amazing🙄🤚
Hahaha....that would be a great show live!
@@brooklynvlogs9165 die antwoord is trash. The literally groomed, trafficked and sexually abused zheani
@DatDapperDoggo man wtf does that have to do with the fact that they DID do that to Zheani? They can't even go to Australia anymore because of it. Facts have fuck all to do with ur struggles.
Die Antwoord are pathetic posery losers.
Director: which special effects do you want ?
SKYND: yes.
@Words Retain Power "waaaaa, someone said a thing someone else said!"
@Words Retain Power Now I see your "thing".
"It's not an original comment" is your thing. You keep doing that over and over,.
Gotcha ;)
@@YourOldPalDP Exactly. Mr "10k likes" is a one trick pony
@@1005corvuscorax I feel kinda silly for saying. I honestly did not understand that.
This is their best work, IMO. This & Richard Ramirez.
These murders happened on July 16, 2011, at 5 p.m., in Port St. Lucie, Florida.
Tyler Hadley, 17, had severe mental problems. He takes 3 XTC pills and goes to his mother, Mary-Jo. He starts beating her with a hammer. Hearing screams, Tyler's father, Blake, runs to the scene. Tyler beats his father also to death. He spends three hours cleaning up the mess. Then, Tyler makes a Facebook post letting people know that he is hosting a party that night. About 60 people gather for the party. That night, Tyler shows his best friend, Michael Mandell, the master bedroom with the blood and the 2 bodies in that room.
Tyler is sentenced to life in prison.
I live in Port St Lucie I vividly remember these murders it was the one time this town was actually noticed other than being filled with drug addicts and senior citizen homes Port St Lucie actually was on a word article in rolling Stone who would have fucking thought that great video though
Thank you, I thought it was about Zachary Davis lol
I am subscribed to coffeehouse crime, a channel that had a video on this guy. I only now clued in as to why the name sounded familiar in this song. Holy. Fuck.
The party kept going on because his parents were dead and in the other room, the lyricism, attention to detail.. I am beyond floored.
@@metalcrip89 Ms. Hadley was my secondary teacher at Village Green in first grade . I will never forget that. Never.
Can't wait for the Katherine Knight video...
That superman hammer lung is awesome.
Right? I didn't expect something like that.. this is probably my favorite MV from SKYND so far, and that's hard to say as all of them are fantastic!
I could be wrong but I think that they said in an interview at Download that Katherine Knight wouldn't have a video, since Jim Jones and Tyler Hadley both have theirs and they said that the other songs in the album wouldn't have videos. Which is understandable since it takes a long time to make these videos. I think on her IG she was posting selfies in her outfits for this video back in...March I think?
EDIT: They did say no video. The interview wasn't at Download though.
@@BelaCharm You're correct. No video for Katherine Knight.
@@kristinc2313 it's sad though because I love their videos ;_;
CherryChuu update: she just said on her insta story that there will now be a video for Katherine Knight too.
I should be sleeping right now to get up for work, yet here I am listening to different songs, reading the subject matter and then looking at the lyrics to make specific connections
Love when artist do THIS. If you know, you know
Poland says YES!!!!
The music is far greater than the tv show they they shovel . This happened les than 2 miles from our house I have a kid that went to school with him . Florida we do things differently here in the last free state .
I've never been so conflicted about an artist. I've been thinking about Skynd at work all day trying to work out if the lyrics and videos glorify or glamourise the events, or raise awareness and force people like me to work it out as art is meant to do. Anyone else?
idk.. the lyrics are actual words used in the events.. so facts isnt really glorifying.. im glad it doesnt get as many dislikes for sure tho.. its very hard to find original content with anything.. and they've made a whole new genre of music ♥
Thank you for saying this bc I think they were well intentioned but the outcome won’t be so great. Song just makes me want to kill
Tyler hadley. One hell of a party. 🤟🤟😎
It's hammer time
Sorry I'm late. This is amazing!
The shots in this video are breathtaking. Special props to whoever chooses Skynd's clothes, the fashion is always on point.
I’m so thankful for SKYND, I don’t have this empty alone feeling in my heart when I listen to SKYND🖤 ( I’ve gone through a sad tragedy as a child, SKYND helped me cope ) This world is not perfect, lots of bands avoid topics that SKYND embraces, SKYND is my hero!! 💋🖤♥️ I’m so in love with SKYND, wish I could see them live, for now I will continue to love & share them to everyone I come across! Thank you SKYND, sorry for TMI but your music truly made me feel better about what’s happened in my life.. 💋
I wish you all the very best. Let music be your main medicine in your life.
That chunkyness of that guitar riff though. Makes the song heavy..
The actor is brilliant
Great band we're all on a watchlist now.
@skynd as long as i'm a fan of you, and as much as i listen to your work, I keep coming back to this song.... THIS is your BEST work ever!! 😍😎🥰
3:47 SKYND hits that “BANG BANG BOOGIE BOOGIE BANG BANG” with such authority!
I'm addicted to this band.
They can't do a bad song.
You are so cool and unique,please never stop making music.🖤
I just saw them an hour ago in Toulouse. The premiered for Ice Nine Kills. I'm so glad I got to know them, they were so good. Such an amazing stage presence.
Oh, that sounds like the energy would have been unhinged with that lineup! Was it just those two, or was there a similar band to round it out?
Envious of your experience, hoping to see them some day
This song gets my 8 month old daughter to fall asleep, she has amazing taste, cannae wait to see you with INK in March!
True Crime music? I’m here for it ❤
This is my favorite song from Skynd.
Your songs make me feel less weird about getting excited talking about serial killers cause you sing about them. Lol.
There's a lot of people fascinated by that. Sadly it's a taboo and people assume we're fucking psychopaths because we're fascinated by them, so we just keep that for us instead :(.
I would love to talk about serial killers maybe we shod all start a group
Yeah one of my teacher was also fascinated by them, she pointed me towards Stéphane Bourgoin's work and i've been reading most of his books since. Funny thing is she's specialized in children books, but she got me into Mindhunter too. All of that to say it's not as weird as it seems Lol.
i like talking about them too. theres just something infatuating about it.
Agreed!
1:29 Such a perfect moment with this demon/god of death character standing there in the middle while everyone else around is indulging in hedonism. Like a powerful malevolent being running around corrupting people just basks in the glory of her achievement. Such a powerful moment. I also love how she's looking from 4:26 onwards. As if she's done here, destroyed the lives of this entire family and ready to move on to the next subjects to corrupt.
Indeed, at first I though she is more of a spectator to what Hadley did. But I also think she is kind of a demon character, driving him into the killing frenzy and the madness to party on and on an on, while he left the bodies rotting upstairs.
Зима 2024/2025 зайду послушать этот шедевр ещё раз! Из России с любовью😊
Dude I love they style that they do.
True Art
I am so addicted to Skynd right now. They are on constant repeat on my Spotify and I have seen their videos multiple times. As a criminal justice major, I feel like they write the soundtrack for my studies.
Another song, another masterpiece. Its So diferent from anything else. I love it. Czech Republic love you
Hell yeah! Come here and lets make some great show!
Masterpiece describes her music perfectly
+1 looking forward to Skynd visiting Czech republic!
Simply want More!
At 0:57 when u first see Skynd with the way her makeup and that smile done in all black is creepy looking, but so effin great! I'm so glad that I literally just stumbled upon Skynd with them being recommended to me and it was Columbine that I first heard and from that song on I was hooked. I've watched interviews with Skynd and how she decides what cases to cover as songs. I know some people think that they are just being disrespectful by making music out of such atrocities, but personally IMO I don't think they are trying to make light of any of these high profile cases. At least to me I don't find their songs any more disrespectful than the countless authors who aren't involved in any way, shape, or form with these cases and they go on to write books about these tragedies. If society were to try and censor all of the creative liberties that musicians, authors and countless others who use tragedies such as these to get the stories out there the world would be such a PG rated place n the victims stories would never really be known. I'm not sure if anything I just wrote makes sense, but it does to me or at least it did in my head as I was writing this.
You guys were awesome in Stockholm and Oslo, loved it!
This is the most brilliant thing I have heard...
Damn, I like this song but I can't stop hearing Yoshi singing at 3:05 :(
I hear Alvin.
@@MatthewManyeah fits just as well
It`s an absolute boogie-boogie-bang-banger!
you are genius and so talented!
I really like the back and forth lyrics hidden in here from victim to killer.
"Oh my. Oh why. Not"
His parents screamed why and Tyler responsed why not.
You even recreate the last picture his friend took with him.
This is brilliant!
The friend killed himself .
@@curiouscampbell5447 ?!
Sweet so excited for this. My fav song from the chapter 2
This is a straight jam! *bang bang boogie boogie bang bang*!
ich denke ich bin krank... mir gefällt das :P
Im so happy that i found your song Gary Heidnik.
You are my Favorite band/duo
You are on my top 5 bands👌🏻
Keep this!
You should hear this song live if you ever get the opportunity!! It's outa this world
found this group because of the song name. he lived in my area so we heard a lot about this for years. then i listened to it and found a new favorite group. every song is awesome. would love to see them someday
Why was I skipping over this music for weeks? Omg.
This is amazing art, keep it coming!
I saw the band at 14.02.2020 at Huxleys Neue Welt in Berlin. I was speechless... that was sooo amazing!
Bringing the darkness of human nature to life once again, in such a beautiful masterpiece!!!!! 100000/10 Perfection!
Песня потрясная. И Боже, какая у нее красивая шея...
whenever i talk about this song with someone i can never shut up about how much i love the 'sturm and drang' line. if you compare the case and Tyler's motives with the key aspects of the Sturm und Drang movement you see how amazing this reference is. Skynd is a genius for coming up with that 🖤
I comment this vid because this song was the first one I've heard and I like it.
And I want to confess, it is absolutely what I've been looking for.
I always loved stories about serial killers. I've read a lot of them, watched a lot of videos, interviews and so on.
And now you make this music, full of the darkest energy it can be, and my devil inside is so happy now!
I love it and I wish you endless inspiration. Do what you do, it's great and we all love it.
My belarusian heart is yours ♥
Please come to Tennessee soon. I would literally "bang bang boogie boogie bang bang" somebody to see you guys in concert.
Im a new but HUGE fan. I'll be buying a shirt for sure.
Until you guys decide to show up and make my life a little better I guess the party goes ONNNNN AND ON AND ONNNNNNNNN AND ON AND ONNNNNNN AND ON AND ONN
Argh. Chills so hard when the chorus was going alongside that imagery of Tyler going after his dad. This entire video is shot beautifully, by the way. Good work as always, y'all.
Glad i'm not the only one who got some chills at that! Perfect imagery with that almost haunting chorus!
Hey guys here! All you heard, at least once, those trendy / pop / hipHop people driving their cars with Volume Max ON and windows-opened.
Today I did the same. And now 3 dense districts in my city knows What music they should listen this summer.
Thank You S K Y N D.
1 year & 1 month of Journey With You. And it is still Magic
Yeah me last night..., 😆
We shall all do it one day...
guy playing tyler is a good actor...he is super creepy yo watch i love it! licking the hammer thing too hahaha he has intense eyes/stare
I just realized her reflection in the eye right in ther very beginning. Everytime you watch one of there videos, you always pick up something new and I love it.
Everyone of their videos are just ... perfect.
The syncopated party beat still goes on as the song ends. Such little details in this song is like, endless.
Okay, I see a lot of people in the comments calling this respectful and I'm really interested in hearing your reasoning there.
Two moments are often referenced by killers who take pride or other kinds of joy from what they did - the moment when the victims realized they would die and the moment life left the body.
One of those two is in the video - twice. The frame at 4:00 is, as I see it, very noteworthy in terms of respect - or the lack of it I personally perceive.
Hadley's elevated over the father and in a dynamic position. The father, meanwhile, stands there in what can be seen as a purposefully "derpy" or "goofy" position, especially in his reaction. There is no natural flinching, just an almost penguin-esque flapping of the hands that, even within slow-motion, feels dragged out and counterintuitive in terms of reacting to someone charging at you with a hammer.
If we're arguing that this is solely rooted in the artistic intention, then what is the respectful part about said intention? Solely depicting how Hadley himself likely saw it is not respectful to the victims - at least not if said delusional, drug-induced perspective fully carries over to the framing which in this case - at least how I see it - seems to be the obvious intention.
Then there's the scene where he smashes the hammer down repeatedly and is covered in the blood of his victims. This is reminiscent of horror movies and it plays into that exact voyeurism to show it. Again, I can't see how that is respectful.
The fact that people in the comments are having !fun! with this, say they "feel less weird about getting excited talking about serial killers" and other statements that strongly point towards normalizing the morbid voyeurism that leads to groupies sending Dahmer or Manson love letters or harass the families' of victims to get their fix, shows to me that neither this song nor its accompanying video is truly intended to be respectful, but rather targetted at that fix exactly.
I am curious to hear counterpoints - but if you reply to this, please stay civil and actually argue points and not just taste. This is about very real people and I think we owe it to them and everyone who had to suffer the consequences of people like T. Hadley to mindfully reflect on what we are doing when we create and consume artwork like Skynd's.
I have asked this basically in short form before, no one ever answers. I even went to watch interviews of the lead singer and band members to understand how they see from their point of view where they are helping the victims. She has claimed in interviews that she hates and does not co-sign on what these murders did and is not glorifying it, but isn't she though?! She even stated that she doesn't identify with them, but when asked another question directly if she had to choose one she identifies with she states Katherine Knight because she claims Katherine did everything she did out of love. If you know the true story of Katherine Knight she did not do it out of love this could be further from the truth.
I would like to see someone actually do research on the band and share their point of view.What I don't understand why no one has spoken on this band about how they portray these murders and the contradiction by the lead singer. I think the one video they did on Gary Heidnik is a way better example of the lead singer's contradictions from what she has said in interviews. In the uncensored video of Gary Heidnik the lead singer actually joins in helping the killer commit crimes and is shown photographing him while he does it and laughing during. If this video bothers you watch that one, because it is way worse. The huge problem with it I will admit their music does sound good, but if they portrayed it differently than maybe I could get on board with what they are claiming they are trying to do with these videos.
I even tweeted and posted to Sarah Hawkins whom is against glorifying real life murders, but she has never responded to me. I even replied to a tweet months ago where Sarah asked for video ideas, but yet is still not made a video on them.
I don't know who calls this respectful? If you find this disrespectful, I can see why. I don't think Skynd makes the music to offer respect or disrespect to the people, just to display the crimes musically. Also maybe the person depicting the father wasn't a very good actor and couldn't display emotion or action of how a person would react in that situation. About the comments, there are horrible people everywhere that do fantasize/romanticize about serial killers, but there are also other people that are fascinated in the actions and cases of other humans or just enjoy the music. Of course this song will attract the mix of people (I for one enjoy the music). *Warning* Skynd is also releasing a new video tomorrow of the Columbine massacre, and that will definitely bring in the mix (as you may be aware of the Columbiners who glorify those killers.) There are opinions of everything and everyone thinks their own way, they perceive things differently and it's okay. You see this to be negative and I understand why, people enjoy this song and I understand. I understand that people are fascinated and study on cases and I understand that there are people that glorify or romanticize them. Skynd makes their art as how they want it, people see the art and take it how they want it. I just say to understand that people are different, and I also dont condone glorifying/romantasizing killers (there just are those kind of people out there just like the killers.)
@@TheLiana1102 I know about Katherine Knight and that answer makes me shake my head, to be honest. That wasn't love at any point. Makes me wonder whether the high artistical quality in Skynd's music hides a shallow point of view.
I mean, whether or not someone identifies with the criminal is a matter of reason and approach, imo. It's important we acknowledge that these people aren't random mutants popping up out of nowhere but very real human beings who were shaped as much by their surroundings as they were by their own brains. Milgram's experiment, at the latest, showed that we all have the potential to go dark. Sympathies, however, are a different ballpark and I don't think liking or even glorifying any kind of murderer can ever be condoned.
I appreciate you took the time to write a reply - especially since people didn't reply to you at any point.
Came back to edit: I just found an interview where she explains her reasoning a bit more and I must say, I can see her point. What do you think? www.hysteriamag.com/skynd-criminal-mind/
@@wilfridoramirez1339 Some people in the comments do. I scrolled for a bit to see what people were saying.
As I see it, just liking the music doesn't morally cover it. I like the music too - and I did watch the Columbine video. However, I'm still more than careful about digging deeper there and only doing so to get a feeling for the band's moral approach. Enjoyment is a mundane thing, even moreso if it happens on the backs of real suffering - so while I'm not opposed to horrifying music or videos, I think it needs a LOT of empathy and awareness to use material to the likes of Skynd's choice. It is one thing to be curious about and fascinated by the darkness of the human mind - it is another to capitalize on real people's grief and pain to scratch that itch.
So, for me, it's not about the nutcases only who romantisize killers. Quite the opposite, really, I'm interested in people who are still aware of the reality behind it all and empathize with the victims and their families (which is a lost cause with the groupie-kind anyway) and how they'd argue their case.
The Columbine video, so far, is the only one that properly frames what happened in my opinion, albeit even with that one Skynd appearently couldn't resist throwing in some "tasty bits" for the edgy audience. I enjoy the music, but I don't want to really give into that side of it until I'm really sure the band approaches this with empathy and respect because "lulz, it's fun" is a shit explanation for something that is far beyond the harmless realm of fiction.
So, essentially, by asking this question, I'm simply trying to see if people who spend as much thought on the what and why of things have something that morally covers it or if the choice with Skynd is a simple "Either you give a shit and don't listen or you decide not to give a flying fuck and do whatever."
This song is so good! I just can't stop listening to it. My favorite from chapter 2
Let me show you how much I love you skynd...bang bang new music video hahahahah
Gangsta boogie
Saw you last weekend in Brussels. I know I heard this song before. Stumbled upon it in the past but forgot the name/ band. Glad you were at the AB. Now I found it back.
Massive talent original music i love it soo much ,it's a total breath of fresh air ,love to see you do all of em it's quality
You're one of the best and more creative bands i've listened so far. It's truly amazing how you blend the mind of a psychopath with this crazy (and awesome) music you do. I loved Chapter 2, waiting for Chapter 3 haha
Cheers from Brazil. ❤
@ Se vc não liga mesmo, vamos ver se você vai procurar o que isso significa: VAI TOMAR NO MEIO DO SEU CÚ!
Olha um br💜 é uma alegria pra mim saber que não sou a única brasileira que escuta essa banda
And again i am in love with this song of you guys. Love the part 'and the party goes on...' I can feel it.
One of the hardest songs ive ever heard. Creeppy
I'm a big fan of SKYND.. no doubt about the power of this type of music... i love it... but i have to say that the actor who plays Tyler Hadley is particularly good... i would like to see him in a Hollywood movie or a good series ... I hope this clip will propel him into an acting career. (message from France).
Je suis carrément fan de SKYND .. aucun doute sur le pouvoir de ce type de musique... j'adore... mais je dois dire que l'acteur qui incarne Tyler Hadley est particulièrement bon... j'aimerais le voir dans film Hollywoodien ou une bonne série ... j'espère que ce clip le propulsera dans une carrière d'acteur. (message depuis la France).