Let's Take a Walk and Talk About Nazis at Pride and Bigots on YouTube
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Steve, honestly your videos make me so so happy. It’s so refreshing and honestly heartwarming to see someone who identifies as a straight cis ally being so outspoken and vocal about the dangers and issues facing the lgbtq and specifically trans community. It honestly truly makes my day a little brighter to see your videos pop up and I know there’s an ally out there who won’t stop standing up for my community that I love so much. You truly are a beautiful human, and embody everything that a Trekkie and good person should be. I honestly cannot thank you enough.
I agree. Especially with what's going on now. I'd like to say it'll get worse before it gets better, but in reality it may never get better. Especially if republicans win in 2024
Here in 2023… and now more than ever… this is true.
If it helps any, I'm a straight male Mexican in support of your community.
While… I have problems of my own to think about, I'll never stop knowing how wrong it is to deny any human being of their rights to exist HAPPILY!
Stay safe!
Texas Mexican.
“A few Nazis is a few too many.” Exactly Steve!
I came for the Trek, stayed for the real-life commentary. Thank you, Steve Shives, for making my day once again! Keep up the good work!
As a member of the LGBTQ+ community I can without a doubt state that you have most definitely cleared the bar.
Same. My husband agrees, so that makes three. :3
I am going to the straight pride event after I'm done volunteering at "feed the rich" & the home owners shelter.
That was very funny!!!
Thanks for your thoughts, Steve - you show "ally" as a verb, not just a noun to slap on yourself. You do it, and speak up, and it's great.
On a more whimsical note, can you make this gay Trekkie's day by saying where to get that rainbow Trek shirt? I'm feeling a HUGE need (though I might not be able to get it before Pride Month ends, alas!)
The trek website and amazon
We've been seeing Nazis openly marching on US soil for several years now. The fact there is no national conversation about this is deeply troubling. Our grandparents who fought in WWII are turning over in their graves. The fact the cops alow them to march is even more troubling. When I bring this up among acquaintances they will argue that I see Nazis everywhere and these folks aren't real Nazis. They're just trolls and I'm falling for it. How fucked up has our society gotten where any of this is acceptable.
Came for the Star Trek, stayed for the fantastic commentary.
When you have someone in power say "good people on both sides" it encourages the bad people to keep doing bad things.
Such empathy...such insight. Thank you for being you.
Here I thought you were just a random straight guy complaining about Voyager. Thank you so much for this video and the reminder that there are some truly great people still out there.
Very unexpected and again, thank you!
You're not an ally Steve, you are a Comrade and much love to you for it. You know, prior to transitioning when I was trying my hardest to be a "rational" liberal atheist that would "look at the whole to come to my conclusions," this 80 year old peace activist said, "in life, you need to ask yourself, which side are you on boy?" That statement from this lady rocked my world and as an old soldier I knew she was right. Morality is not rational and atheists are capable of being myopic and terrible, just like everyone else. Thanks again and much love Steve Shives!!!
You're right. If even one racist, homophobic person shows up, then we're still not where we should be. Keep up the good work.
As a drag queen who loves star trek, I'm in tears by you're amazing words! You're one of few people I've ever seen standing up for the rights of others!
Come for the Star Trek stuff
Stay for thought provoking, poignant, well spoken debate like this.
Grats on the 90k good sir. Heres to the next milestone
Well, congratulations on reaching the 90,000 subs mark.
im actually crying right now. i really needed this
I love your content man. To me you embody the values of Star Trek in a way so few do. I totally disagree with your stance on Discovery but I would happily walk in the country and discuss our nonsense proclivities for fiction knowing that in our hearts we understand why it's so important that the concept of an optimistic and open hearted vision of the future exists.
Thank you for all that you do. You are an inspiration. Your friend from the UK x
As a person on the rainbow that was terrifying. Edit: thank you for this.
Here's the thing that really pisses me off about the "it was only a few Nazis" argument.
*This time* it was only a few. Next time there will be more, because they got away with it this time.
I cannot say I'll ever agree 100% with you on everything... nor with anyone for that matter... but regardless... thank you Steve for standing for what you believe is right. Thank you for putting your ethics and beliefs into play in your life... rather than the many who just give lip service and use the downtrodden as a currency or means to their end (whether lgbtq+, Brown, Black, etc...) I don't turn to people to speak for me on the issues I face as a minority, but it's actually good to see that others stand along with me and others even if we don't agree 100% on all issues.
Thank you.
"It was only a few Nazis at Detroit Pride." That's a fair distance from saying, "There was only one suicide bomber," but it's a similar concept, Steve. Those idiots showed up for one reason and one reason only, more than likely: TO CAUSE TROUBLE. Whether they succeeded or not isn't the point. The point is their desire to disrupt.
BTW, I LIKE the outdoor setting. You haven't done that in a LONG while, and it's a nice change of pace.
"There was only one suicide bomber" is SUCH a good analogy and damn I wish I'd thought of it!
Good analogy! My immediate reaction was that one nazi would have been one too many.
@@SteveShives [smile] I have my moments here and there...
My husband recently came out as pansexual after we've been married for ten years. It took him that long to feel comfortable telling me about this part of him. This is the first Pride month with him out of the closet. Thanks for this video, Steve. Love you!
@@A.KZydik This is my first Pride month as a Pansexual, and I can answer your question..at least from my perspective. I thought I was bisexual for a long time, but after being attracted to nonbinary individuals as well, I realized I was pansexual. I knew I always cared more about actions and personality rather than looks, but I wasn't aware until last year that there was a term for it.
@@A.KZydik As a Pansexual I honestly have no idea what you're on about. Of course you can come out as Pansexual. It's not a philosophy or mind set it's an sexual and romantic orientation. One that shares much with Bisexuality, and is just as if not more overlooked or misunderstood as Bisexuality. It's can be difficult to talk about, especially for men given how pervasive certain stereotypes and expectations for men are. It's not a "common" or "normal" thing in most people's eyes and thus a lot of people keep it to themselves, they're in the closet about it.
@@A.KZydik
Whoa, condescending much?
Are you sure you know... words?
Has -sexuality as suffix but isn't sexual, but is pysical but it's not sexual, but it's not right away attraction, but it's attraction... Whoaat?
I guess I know what you're getting at, if I'm correct... It's about same as me being straight and not being initially attacked to person of opposite gender and then getting attracted once I get to know them?
Hmmm, should I call myself pansexual now? (Ofc. Not)
Also are you sure we can know someone else's mind and heart, fully?
I don't think I even know mine to begin with.
Nonbinary refers to gender... There are still two sexes right? I don't think anyone is trying to say there is right? So isn't pansexuality in a way making trans people as others? Its like, I like men and women of all identities. That makes me bisexual. I'm still bisexual even if they're trans. If I only liked men as a heterosexual woman, including transmen I'd still be straight. Right? Pansexuality is confusing the issue IMO.
Anarkyll Zydik Its almost offensive that you think bisexual individuals are attracted to just the physical sex. There are two sexes, and a spectrum of identities and personalities and individuals in between. This is why I long abandoned the term. Orientation refers to gender, and practically speaking only refers to sex when there is a lack of gender. A heterosexual man, is attracted to women. If they happen to be trans, they're still straight. If they happen to be neither, then it becomes about sex, personality, and the individual. Who will have physical qualities within a spectrum of two sexes.
Being bisexual would mean they're all covered. I don't need a term elevating me into saying that I care about more than their sex and gender when picking a partner. Like what's on the inside? Wtf.
Everyone does. That's every orientation. Fuck. Shit reminds me of Sapiosexuality and Demisexuality. Pansexuality is in the same special little corner.
Your comments make so much sense. It’s amazing that people still find fault with your position.
Also, it looked like a great day for a walk.
You are such a breath of fresh air on this platform. 😭🙏👏
Thank you for speaking up and showing us some love. You are a good dude. Keep making awesome videos.
I stumbled on your channel by being recommended your Star Trek videos and was pleasantly surprised to find all of these other videos you did about trans rights and such. I'm a trans woman and it's kind of rare to find that sort of thing, I hope you keep doing what you're doing.
Certainly cleared my bar. Thanks for being a consistent ally and reminding me that it's not too much to expect it because it's really not that difficult.
I just got that Starfleet delta rainbow shirt in the mail today! As someone who's not fully out as pan yet, I appreciated this video, and to me, you're an ally. I may not be the best rep for the community since I am just now really starting to enter it, but I appreciate your effort.
I'm clearly late to this video, but I wanted to say, as someone who is LGBTQ, thank you for this. I love your Star Trek videos, and I resonate so much with your philosophies and viewpoints of the world very much. I appreciate what you do.
Just wanted to say I completely agree with everything you have said in the video, glad there are people like you online who actually care, keep up the good work
Spot on Steve. Truly. Hypocritically profiteering off of hate and then trying to say you're inclusive and don't endorse the content is reprehensible - YES, YT DOES endorse such content.
Never intended to do so, though I already stopped at ur content for weeks now.
But after this video, I subscribed immediately!
Thank you, this was an eye opener for me! I am too a white cis hetero man and have always struggled between Freedom of speech vs. Anti harassment. Now I know the answer. $#@& Freedom of speech, if you don't support all people equality then you're not welcome!
I agree, Steve. Also, we should never downplay the significance of bigots feeling empowered enough to be bigots in public.
dude, right!
From an Australian lesbian - my many thanks for your passionate voice and strident empathy. It's really appreciated all over this world.
Wojcicki: But then we'd have to get rid of all of these other videos...
Everyone: You're almost there... Keep going.
As a straight, white, recovering Catholic, I would love to sit down and have a few beers with you and chat about modern domestic issues, Star Trek, and anything else that's relevant.
You're erudite, you're respectful, and you are cautious while seeking progress and decency towards all. Those qualities are, as Michael Dorn would say, most honorable.
Much appreciated!!
One Nazi is too many!
"Three Nazis walk into a B.A.R. and they didn't get up."
My WW2 veteran grandfather's favorite joke in spite of serving in the US Pacific Fleet a destroyer.
This so called "straight pride parade" will be nothing BUT Nazis! WATCH!!
@@dinorancher5560 lol good one, I'm going to steal it
"They said there weren't that many Nazis..."
*takes a bite of food*
"...only 15 or 20"
*spits out food*
Damn, that's a lot of Nazis!
And really, what's an acceptable number of Nazis at Pride?
1) What a lovely pastoral setting you are in- I miss visiting the battlefields in Pennsylvania. I remember when TH-cam used to be like this. 2) Speaking of which, 'open platform' really means everything that can make money for us. You are absolutely correct: the executives TOTALLY endorse this nasty crap- because the executives don't feel the effects of bigotry. It a lack of true moral responsibility. 3) Saying that you are seeking to have common ground with violent bigot is like saying you seek common ground with cancer. Like, no. As Captain Kirk said to Ruk: "You cannot protect those who seek to destroy you." Like wise, you cannot extend companionship nor ground to violent bigots.
Amen Steve! Congratulations on reaching 90K subs! You've earned it.
Thanks, Steve.
didn't those cops know that the Nazis were coming to Pride, like a week prior? and didn't tell anyone?
and again, thank-you Steve for raising awareness and helping keep me safe.
Postscript: Trying to exercise egalitarian policies with those whose content and goals are anything BUT egalitarian is up there with tolerance for intolerant people. It's variations on the same theme, and it shows a remarkable lack of understanding or your responsibility as prosecutor of those policies.
The center is always gonna be taken in by the fascists. All they have to do is play the free speech card and the centrist neoliberals and classical liberals will get turned the h*ll on.
Ha, ha! I finally got to the part where you said: "Why am I being cute about it?" I fell out laughing.
Dude, I love Star Trek. Subscribed for that reason and wish I could do so again for different reasons.
Thanks for this.
Thank you 🙏🙏
I agree, a few Nazi's is a few too many.
You are an ally to this + person. Thanks for this video. What happened in Detroit was distressing and your words were calming.
I hope out pride parade here in Idaho goes better.
I like the LGBTQ+ community I have friends and that are part of that community. I am in full support of them.
I am proud of you Steve. I can say I am a Christian. And I been taught to love every one. I hate bigoted people
PUT
THEM
ON
BLAST
STEVE!
Thank you for this video. The intentional or unintentional symbolism of being at a civil war battlefield was incredible.
harsh words that needed to be said
It makes me sad how many people in our community are bigots, misogynistic assholes and just generally hateful... It's so damned easy to dehumanize the "other" groups.
Thank you for existing Steve. I discovered you thanks to my love of Trek and was pleased to see you were a like minded person. Never lose your passion.
Pansexual... Lives in a rural area where they still celebrate their "Confederacy" every year... Was part of a whopping 9% who didn't vote for Trump... I wish more people shared your views and opinions.
Wow Steve, my respect for you has gone up infinity percent. You definitely cleared the shit out of that bar.
On a side note, is your next Trek, Actually video going to be about Miles O'Brien? Cause that would be awesome.
I'm upset about Nazis anywhere. Especially in the White House.
I've never watched any of your content before, but, after this, it's obvious you're a 'Walk Yer Talk'-kinda guy. Enjoyed this. Peace. 3:)
I loved your videos before, but now I really love you
I agree Steve, and I try to be a good ally just like you.
Sometimes doing the hard thing is hard, but being an ally takes real reflection on who you are as a person. You have put in the hard work and that’s why I enjoy your talks. I try everyday to think about who I want to be and sometimes it is hard, but today you made it a little easier because I know you are trying hard to do the same thing.
You are an Allie Steve- I can say it. Thanks for this video!
@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated I'm a fellow ccl, and he is an ally to us, definitely.
you are a great ally to have. thank you.
Found you through your Star Trek videos. But have been loving all of your videos. Especially this type of supportive and thoughtful video.
And as a member of the LGBTQ+ community I can say that you are an ally. I love how supportive you are of marginalised or smaller communities.
Thank you for making awesome videos!
Thanks Steve, really appreciate it.
I like you Shives You tell it as it is, And I agree the whole Rainbow Images, followed by Sweeping it under the Rug, is Contradictory.
Coming from an Old Gay Bear - you, sir, are awesome. Thank you.
Thanx again. Yep, it's hard to stay in the doing the right thing lane... I see that you are trying. I try too. There are so many pieces to the puzzle. Can't take away someone's right to be the asshole that they want to be, even though they are hurting others (if only with words). It crushes me to see humans being so hateful. I do what I can, what I'm called upon to do. I can't do it all. There is only one me. That's where being able to communicate comes in. So seldom taken up and hardly ever changes a mind. I'll keep doing what I do, and you keep on keepin' on with your doin's. I appreciate you. PEACE
Thank you Steve, I really appreciate your earnest support. Though as an lgbt person I’ll feel there’s something that allies and our community and other marginalized communities miss when we have this discussion; the Nazis are bad news for EVERYONE.
Obviously privileged people are at less risk, and if we were to be sent back to Nazi Germany there’s very few who’d choose to be Jewish over someone whom regime approved of, but even for those people who the Nazis approved there was harm. Freedom and rule of law were destroyed. Teachers and university students who say the Nazis for what they were got persecuted, some people got jailed for telling jokes about Hitler. And of course millions died in the war.
So I feel like we should be saying to straight white people, “Yes this doesn’t affect you now...but it will.” Everyone no matter how privileged should be against the Nazis because the Nazis are evil. Nobody wins there. You want to live in a country that tolerates this? Fine, but once the bigots are done with marginalized people they’ll come for those who don’t think right. They thrive on hate, and it will never stop with one group. The poem “First they came” puts it best,
“First they came for the socialists and I did not speak out, because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out for I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me.”
Now it’s easy to brush this off as it is hard to imagine things every getting that bad here...but I’m sure people couldn’t imagine how bad thing would get back then.
Great video. I too came for the trek and stayed for the social commentary. I live on the other side of the planet; different place, same issues.
So much respect to you. Thank you!!
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Simply put....the mere fact that these conversational points needed to be said should really leave us shamed. Shamed for the tolerance of bigotry, shamed for the tolerance of half baked apologies, shamed for the lack of compassion for those that are different than those of privilege and power. Our ethics, compassion and fundamental willingness to see from the legit victimized point of (LGBTQ+ in this case) have disappeared like tRump Roast' taxes/school grades. Even if we differ on various beliefs and ideologies....are we not capable of having a moral compass/heart? No one of any culture nor group should feel constant belittling, shame bashing, daily fear for their lives, fear of lack of protection from their nations government, nor should anyone have to live in a world where simply because you're different from a major group should you be ostracized let alone chastised for you being/representing who YOU ARE!
So good!! Thank you!
Thanks ✌🏼🥰🦄✊🏼
At least you get it, thank you. To those who say ‘it is only a few’: the greater part of the of mass shootings are done by 1 guy. Think about that.
Thanks for making this, Steve.
Edit, as a note to TH-cam in the vanishingly small event someone there reads this: If you have the power to remove hate from a space you control, and you do _not_ remove that hate, then you are tacitly supporting that hate. It does not matter what kind of hate it is.
I don't always agree with your views, especially with some of your Star Trek videos, but I do agree with you here, and I wish more people would speak up and actively deride those who call for 'tolerance' and 'measured responses' with intolerable things such as racism and hate based phobias. Hating someone because of their sexuality, gender identity, atheism, and so forth, is no different than hating someone because of the their skin colour or nationality, and makes about as much sense as people hating others because they're allergic to peanuts... which unfortunately, some very unintelligent people do.
(standing ovation)
What a beautiful place for a walk. Great talk too!
The principles you live by put others to shame. Long may it last.
You're standing with people against pure evil! You ain't even gotta sweat it!
I am reminded of a quote by one of my favourite DS-9 characters: "You can't judge people by what they think or say. Only by what they do." - Kira Nerys. I feel this is something more people need to bear in mind with especially public figures. It's easy enough to talk a great talk and actually think (and convince others) that you're a good ally - but ultimately, it all comes down to what you actually do. Do you just slap a Pride flag on something and sell it to the LGBTQ+ community, or do you actually donate to causes that support them? Do you welcome them and allow them an equal voice on your platform, or demonitise and suppress channels featuring actual, needed and necessary educational content? On an individual level, you hit the nail on the head. You are an ally if your actions are in tune with your words. Or just if you take actual without saying anything at all. Just quietly casting your vote or donating to a charity mean just as much, if not MORE than a loudmouth who talks a good talk, but actually does nothing. So I want to commend you, as someone painted in multiple shades of rainbow, and thank you from the bottom of my heart for being an ally. You are one. And that means the world to us.
You're always brilliant.
Odd, usually I try to avoid youtube drama, but just a few hours ago I had an unfriendly little talk with an anti homosexual bigot using the word "SJW" as if it really meant anything, and now this video came out, what are the odds.
I found Rationality rules fans to be quite irrational. Pun aside, instead of discussing the substance of RR's fuck up they mostly been busy lashing out at ACA with variations of a tone argument. If you screw up, you don't get to demand a better treatment from people who'd call you out, you don't get to demand anything really. You may be granted that courtesy, and usually this is that happens, but it's not a given. RR and his ardent supporters seems to not getting that simple rational thing. Thats the best most diplomatic interpretation of what happened. The other option is RR did this knowingly.
Well said.
if youtube followed their own policies, midnight's edge and his entire ring of bigots would be gone (nerdtrotic, mecharandom42)
Thank you so much!
From this bisexual enby - I just want to give you a big hug
Steve... I LOVED your channel before this video. Now I want to spread your channel to everyone I know and then some!
If I can find you, can I give you a big hug? Thank you for your support. It means so much.
Thank You!
This is another epic rant. Keep them honest!
a G member here and applause to ya Steve. To quote Joan Allen's line from the 2000 film The Contender - "Principles only mean something if you stand behnd them when theyre INconvenient". And I dig your filming this in a battlefield. Appropriate analogy.
Thank you, Steve Shives.
True wisdom is the acknowledgement that your are and will be, intellectually lacking. Good vid, my friend.
you know what .... makes sense... Please please please .. Can you make a longer more thoughtful retrospective on cause and effect of Hate speech and Violence ... Good video as always ...
For the record, you are my ally.
As someone who is gay, thank you. This needs to be said, especially by allies of the LGBTQ+ Community, you guys hold more privilege than us, and your voices are heard. So thank you. I don't really know much about the Atheist Community, being a Christian myself, but the same thing happens in the Christian circles, even some of the LGBTQ+ Christian circles, there's a lot of intolerance out there, and it seems like people grow more hateful every year, but allies like you are the incredibly important members of the community, so thank you for your words.
This is the reason I subscribed to this channel. I'm also worried about the tacit endorsement of intolerant bigots within the New Atheist community. To make things interesting, I'm also an evangelical Christian, and agnostic, and a socialist, and a recently graduated history major. The cognitive dissonance is hard but I find it easier to cope with my place in the world this way than to be an unequivocal supporter of Albert Camus' notion of the "absurd." I'm definitely new to being supportive of the LGBT+ community, thanks to Contra Points and Philosophy Tube. Despite by Christian stance, even I could see RR's videos as Transphobic garbage equivolent almost of saying, "love the sinner, hate the sin." My views on these topics have drastically shifted from how I used to think in High School. It was the New Atheist community that made me start to question everything, but it was college that showed me the importance of protecting marginalized groups. I'm glad to see members of the Atheist community such as yourself standing up for what is right. You're doing an amazing job with these types of videos!
The fact that the police knew that Nazis were going to protest and did nothing is a fucking disgrace. Police brass should resign.
Thanks for your powerful critique of an unnerving phenomena I have encountered too much of late -- atheists who hold retrograde views -- even if only very subtly. Good job. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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The state of affairs...