The Study op. 8 no 12 (or Patetico, or Pathetic Study) is the last study of Scriabin's Op. 8, finished in 1894. It is one of Scriabin's best-known works, and arguably the most famous of his studies. Personnaly, I found that this interpretation is the only one that had enough emotion in it, I found others to lack of passion and fire. Plus the voice he plays at 01:00 is really unique of this version.
Thanks for sharing this amazing interpretation; I always enjoyed Horowitz but at the same time I always felt that it could be taken further, more passionately. This is it. That said, could I maybe make a small request, which would be to upload a second version of this, but with the 'warrior cry' edited out? I get that's it's funny the first few times, but now I find myself bracing for it, which is super unpleasant. For me it's kinda immersion-killing
@@josac7602 Horowitz is good for Chopin waltzes but honestly he doesnt shine here at all. I dont like being mean but he isnt the best scriabin interpreter
If there was a ricter scale for emotion, this piece would generate incredible amounts. The amount of pain, suffering, sadness, anger, hope, resilience, fire, passion that went into the composition and the performance of this piece is unfathomable- it literally transfers you into another world, so that when the piece ends you feel like you have just woken up.
@@omgtkseth Exactly. It was recorded in Japan and a fan from the audience yelled ‘Bravo’. You can clearly hear a Japanese accent. Considering the fact that he was more popular there than elsewhere, it makes sense.
Brilliant with that voicing at the 1:00 mark. You won’t hear that type of interpretation from many pianists. That’s a new one for me personally because I never heard it like that before. That gives me some ideas to work with. The thing is that you want to be an original and not copy other pianists when it comes to interpretation. This is definitely a benchmark.
+ completely different feeling how the ‘sound’ is created - talking not only about wrist/hand position & pedalisation, but also from ‘poetical’ perspective regaring flow of mind
I noticed something interesting that I haven't seen anyone else point out yet. At 0:53 ish, in the right hand octaves, he sort of mutes the top note for a bit and brings out the lower note. This creates a really subtle but nice dark mood when combined with the soft dynamics. And then the top notes of the octave come back, which creates a nice effect as well :)
Yeah this stood out to me as well! He plays this section generally a bit louder than other interpretations but I love how he still brings it down in intensity this way.
The power to wield voicing is something of a sanctity really... We all have the ability to put a shine on things that aren't apparently there, like noticing a face on the surface of the moon... But to know exactly where to put that shine or voicing in order to enhance a mood or characteristic can only be from the inner ear to the heart or mind, it's not pronounced by a school of playing, or teaching, etc. That being said, Sultanov had such a delicate and tuned ear that he simply knew that this inner voice had to come out. But not only that, he played with those of us who know this piece already, by 'hinting' at us that the shadow he's about to cast isn't like the one you know and fear. And so, he pulls this off, and it's just fucking glorious. An opera seria in 2 minutes... Pure tragedy, drama, lucidity yet erratic and everything in-between. Sultanov put himself in the prophetic position that Scriabin describes by hinting at that special moment as it emerges.
You'll notice Sultanov do this with repeated sections, often embellishing the second iteration with additional voicings as contrast. Two great examples would be the LH voicing in Chopin's C# minor Waltz (much like Katsaris' version) and his echo effect in Schubert's 4th Impromptu.
To live is to experience this piece or not live at all - that's what this piece always embodied to me, i.e. complete despair and madness coupled with inner fighting (1:05 in this context, wow) but also a will to live. I'm massively overexaggerating of course, but I feel like this is what Scriabin wanted to tell us at least. No performance could fully encapsulate this. Horowitz had the despair and will to live part while Scriabin himself had the madness part down. Other's performances were all a bit lacking IMO, but I finally found this. It's so incredible, so alive. Also that sound of the piano is very unique. Hands down the best performance of this piece there is!
this is probably the greatest recording in history of this piece, I swear to god everything about this is perfect, I can't listen to anymore recordings the same way after hearing this, Lang Lang, Trifinov, Horowitz, not even Scriabin himself can come anywhere close to this AMAZING performance!
No doubt, this is the best recording of this wonderful study. I cry every time I hear it. I searched and found in the score where Sultanov found those musical notes that made this recording the best. Only a genius sees something where everyone else doesn't. And that's why we can classify Sultanov as an enlightened genius who, unfortunately, left us while he was so young. Thank you for sharing this treasure
A timeless and transcendent performance, which has taken on a haunting quality after learning more about Sultanov. The counter melody at 1:05 and the lead up to the climax at 1:49 are excellent examples of his ability to sing within percussive episodes.
Alexei Sultanov, what a piano god. So happy I found out about him; such a tragedy that he passed away so early in life; such a gift that we have all these recordings to enjoy for eternity. Every time I find a new recording of his my heart skips a beat in anticipation of the unique genious I'm about to witness. And so far I've never been disappointed.
@@loganm2924 In terms of making good music it doesn't matter but if you are determining the best rendition, mistakes should be taken into account along with emotion too.
Cómo expresar tantas emociones y sentimientos en tan solo 2 minutos?? Scriabin y Sultanov lo saben. Definitivamente la mejor interpretación que escuché de esta obra!
Fantastic technique. I think he was the First P;lace winner of the Van Cliburn competition back in the day. I heard a melodic line in the bass starting at 1:06 i haven't heard in other performances--not even Horowitz'. Very nice.
I gotta learn to play this, I just have to, and I feel I can do it with enough practice EDIT 10.8.2022: I can actually play this at least the first 3 pages, and almost without any wrong notes. I still need to practice, but the ending seems quite easy after just a couple of weeks. Sultanov is amazing though, and no one comes close to him on this piece. Have to say I also love the sound of the piano.
È estremamente raro che il pianismo raggiunga una simile compiutezza, per giunta a quell'età. Ascoltare Sultanov è quindi un'esperienza trascendentale, che pochissimi altri possono offrire. Tra i pianisti viventi, capaci di simili altezze, cito la mia esperienza diretta con Sokolov e il purtroppo meno noto Christian Blackshaw, straordinario specialista del classicismo viennese, dotato di un suono magnetico e colmo di sfumature
What's so amazing about this recording is the unrivaled thunder. No other recording has as much brutal force. The wrong notes in here don't even matter because of how earthshaking the performance is
i literally see one part where interpretation is impaired, 1:48, he needs to SLAM that bottom chord, but he didn't, but he did the rest perfectly. Literally, WOW
I first heard this recording in a compilation video for epic moments of Scriabin's music, but by golly, Sultanov played the FUCK out of this piece. That middle voice @1:00... Scriabin was a genius for writing it in the background, the Sultanov was the one who really saw its potential and its power. Its sheer, overwhelming power.
I thought he still played D with his right hand, but pointing the Bb more. Regardless, I find his interpretation very unique and it's kind of my taste bar 25
Really goood version...as said by many, the middle section with the added notes Is beautiful....only thing, the last seconds are quite weak, i prefer mr Horowitz thunder ending in the final notes. Amazing execution anywere
I’m playing through some Chopin Etudes right now and I’m confident I can play about 3/4 of them. But man I don’t even wanna touch this. I mean, I do wanna touch it. I wanna touch it all over. But in that “I’m not touchin” that sorta touchin’… Ya know?
@@SeigneurReefShark i know, i like the way he playes, because it's not supposed to be the feeling of depression and intense, but the feeling of the moment when you cannot even live with yourself anymore so you don't even try to say yourself, you just give up
1:05 is undeniably brilliiantly performed but completely unnecessary as it shifts the focus and drowns the melody. Also too many mistakes in the first part. Still a breathtaking performance.
Fantastic! Alexander Scriabin created a huge diamond and Alexei made a true Brilliant from it... After this recording it is absolutely clear why old Horowitz was happy to ask Alexei playing Scriabin for him at the dusk of his life...
@@ZKLofiTone Yes, this is described in Alexei's biographies, you can find this easily. Alexei was invited by Horowitz to his New York apartment and they even played together privately.
He's bringing out the second beat of the triplets. It's not meant to be brought out, but when you try to sight read the piece it makes sense why that voice is brought out. It's almost begging to be a counter melody, just because of the way harmony flows
@@SeigneurReefShark horowitz overrated? I mean scriabin himself said horowitz is extremely talented, and he was a close friend of rachmaninoff but ayy what do those old geezers know about piano anyways am i right
Horowitz overrated lmao. Get a grip , just because Sultanov seems underrated , it doesn’t mean that everyone else is overrated. Yes this version is nice, but Horowitz has more colours and clarity while Sultanov feels more energetic. But please stop throwing around the term overrated as if you guys were some piano sages. Rather not overrate your own judgement.
@@kacht345 There are other pianists of the era, like Richter and Cziffra, who greatly outshine Horowitz in my personal opinion. Horowitz seems earthbound in comparison.
@@SeigneurReefShark I'm not a fan of the horowitz worship either infact Richter is a better overall pianist. But horowitz does own this Etude. Just compare the ending section.
There's always someone who has to be negative on impactful performances like these. I guess it will be me. I didnt like it. It's so loud and bang-y from the very first note. I get that it captures the spirit, but it's played 'fff' from the first note and dilites the true power of the climax. That's what makes tge Horowitz version so effective. For those out there who will say, "Why don't you post your version, smart guy?" I could, but it wouldn't matter. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, and they usually stink.
The Study op. 8 no 12 (or Patetico, or Pathetic Study) is the last study of Scriabin's Op. 8, finished in 1894. It is one of Scriabin's best-known works, and arguably the most famous of his studies. Personnaly, I found that this interpretation is the only one that had enough emotion in it, I found others to lack of passion and fire. Plus the voice he plays at 01:00 is really unique of this version.
Vladimir horowitz
Thanks for sharing this amazing interpretation; I always enjoyed Horowitz but at the same time I always felt that it could be taken further, more passionately. This is it.
That said, could I maybe make a small request, which would be to upload a second version of this, but with the 'warrior cry' edited out? I get that's it's funny the first few times, but now I find myself bracing for it, which is super unpleasant. For me it's kinda immersion-killing
@@macchupicchu3 same here
@@josac7602 Horowitz is good for Chopin waltzes but honestly he doesnt shine here at all. I dont like being mean but he isnt the best scriabin interpreter
@@TURTLELE I do agree, I consider this recording by Alexei as more dynamic.
Holy shit the way he brings out the top notes in the middle part... I had to rewind and just take that in again. I'm so gonna steal that.
2:14 bro couldn't hold himself
It is the perfect piece for dramatic rage
If there was a ricter scale for emotion, this piece would generate incredible amounts. The amount of pain, suffering, sadness, anger, hope, resilience, fire, passion that went into the composition and the performance of this piece is unfathomable- it literally transfers you into another world, so that when the piece ends you feel like you have just woken up.
Richter scale.
A Sviatoslav Richter scale sounds most fitting.
@@J1283-s1kwhich is funny because richter is a phenomenally emotional pianist
1:04 wow that's unreal
Sultanov is an extremely unique (and brilliant) pianist - one in a billion. He plays from the heart and gets lost in the music.
Where to find his other recordings of Scriabin? Do you know if they exist?
2:14 "start clapping, you m-fockers!" What an orgasmic yell, probably from Sultanov himself after destroying such a lion of a piece.
Lol, I imagined he said Bravo.
@@omgtkseth Exactly. It was recorded in Japan and a fan from the audience yelled ‘Bravo’. You can clearly hear a Japanese accent. Considering the fact that he was more popular there than elsewhere, it makes sense.
1:41 the sound of absolute dispare. He manages to make the piece sound almost like the music itself it’s begging for help
He makes the music speak words
Brilliant with that voicing at the 1:00 mark. You won’t hear that type of interpretation from many pianists. That’s a new one for me personally because I never heard it like that before. That gives me some ideas to work with. The thing is that you want to be an original and not copy other pianists when it comes to interpretation. This is definitely a benchmark.
0:55 that change of tempo is so satisfying
+ completely different feeling how the ‘sound’ is created - talking not only about wrist/hand position & pedalisation, but also from ‘poetical’ perspective regaring flow of mind
Dude at 2:15 fully understood what he just witnessed lol
I noticed something interesting that I haven't seen anyone else point out yet. At 0:53 ish, in the right hand octaves, he sort of mutes the top note for a bit and brings out the lower note. This creates a really subtle but nice dark mood when combined with the soft dynamics. And then the top notes of the octave come back, which creates a nice effect as well :)
Nice catch. He likes to play with inner voices a lot, which is why he's probably my favorite pianist
Yeah this stood out to me as well! He plays this section generally a bit louder than other interpretations but I love how he still brings it down in intensity this way.
I hadn’t heard that part so pronounced in any other renditions, that was indeed rly nice
The power to wield voicing is something of a sanctity really... We all have the ability to put a shine on things that aren't apparently there, like noticing a face on the surface of the moon... But to know exactly where to put that shine or voicing in order to enhance a mood or characteristic can only be from the inner ear to the heart or mind, it's not pronounced by a school of playing, or teaching, etc.
That being said, Sultanov had such a delicate and tuned ear that he simply knew that this inner voice had to come out. But not only that, he played with those of us who know this piece already, by 'hinting' at us that the shadow he's about to cast isn't like the one you know and fear. And so, he pulls this off, and it's just fucking glorious. An opera seria in 2 minutes... Pure tragedy, drama, lucidity yet erratic and everything in-between. Sultanov put himself in the prophetic position that Scriabin describes by hinting at that special moment as it emerges.
You'll notice Sultanov do this with repeated sections, often embellishing the second iteration with additional voicings as contrast. Two great examples would be the LH voicing in Chopin's C# minor Waltz (much like Katsaris' version) and his echo effect in Schubert's 4th Impromptu.
To live is to experience this piece or not live at all - that's what this piece always embodied to me, i.e. complete despair and madness coupled with inner fighting (1:05 in this context, wow) but also a will to live. I'm massively overexaggerating of course, but I feel like this is what Scriabin wanted to tell us at least. No performance could fully encapsulate this. Horowitz had the despair and will to live part while Scriabin himself had the madness part down. Other's performances were all a bit lacking IMO, but I finally found this. It's so incredible, so alive. Also that sound of the piano is very unique. Hands down the best performance of this piece there is!
Undeniably the best recording of this piece. He trult embraces the pathétique aspect of the piece
this is probably the greatest recording in history of this piece, I swear to god everything about this is perfect, I can't listen to anymore recordings the same way after hearing this, Lang Lang, Trifinov, Horowitz, not even Scriabin himself can come anywhere close to this AMAZING performance!
AGREE
10 months later still my favourite performance of this piece of ALL time
I only hear a lot of banging
Disagree, Horowitz is the goat of this piece. His interpretation at Carnegie hall is legendary
fully agree
No doubt, this is the best recording of this wonderful study. I cry every time I hear it. I searched and found in the score where Sultanov found those musical notes that made this recording the best. Only a genius sees something where everyone else doesn't. And that's why we can classify Sultanov as an enlightened genius who, unfortunately, left us while he was so young. Thank you for sharing this treasure
A timeless and transcendent performance, which has taken on a haunting quality after learning more about Sultanov. The counter melody at 1:05 and the lead up to the climax at 1:49 are excellent examples of his ability to sing within percussive episodes.
Alexei Sultanov, what a piano god. So happy I found out about him; such a tragedy that he passed away so early in life; such a gift that we have all these recordings to enjoy for eternity. Every time I find a new recording of his my heart skips a beat in anticipation of the unique genious I'm about to witness. And so far I've never been disappointed.
Arguably one of the best rendition along with Horowitz simply astounding
? so many mistakes
@@jas2800 and?
@@jas2800what do mistakes matter in the face of astounding music
@@loganm2924 In terms of making good music it doesn't matter but if you are determining the best rendition, mistakes should be taken into account along with emotion too.
Cómo expresar tantas emociones y sentimientos en tan solo 2 minutos?? Scriabin y Sultanov lo saben. Definitivamente la mejor interpretación que escuché de esta obra!
Better than horowitz recording
What a discovery
Fantastic technique. I think he was the First P;lace winner of the Van Cliburn competition back in the day. I heard a melodic line in the bass starting at 1:06 i haven't heard in other performances--not even Horowitz'. Very nice.
Lmao that ending
He really felt it.
Yes lmfao, I didn't know if I had to cut it or leave it, but it's fun so I left it ahah
It's Sultanov or someone from the audience?
@@lemmy520 pretty sure it’s an audience member shouting bravo but some people think it’s Sultanov shouting as he was known to do so...
@@Ethan-ib5hk He's known for shouting? In recitals?
Possibly my favourite rendition of this piece
The very best interpretation, the very best pianist, no doubt!!!❤
El alma de Sultanov se expresa a través del piano con éste estudio! lleno de emoción y tragedia, la mejor interpretación que he escuchado sin duda.
I gotta learn to play this, I just have to, and I feel I can do it with enough practice
EDIT 10.8.2022: I can actually play this at least the first 3 pages, and almost without any wrong notes. I still need to practice, but the ending seems quite easy after just a couple of weeks. Sultanov is amazing though, and no one comes close to him on this piece. Have to say I also love the sound of the piano.
This is why he is my favorite pianist
Sultanov is one of the greatest Scriabin interpreters, unfortunately he didn't live long enough to record more!
What-
unfortunately ??
@@nadeemlo Apologies I meant didn't
È estremamente raro che il pianismo raggiunga una simile compiutezza, per giunta a quell'età. Ascoltare Sultanov è quindi un'esperienza trascendentale, che pochissimi altri possono offrire. Tra i pianisti viventi, capaci di simili altezze, cito la mia esperienza diretta con Sokolov e il purtroppo meno noto Christian Blackshaw, straordinario specialista del classicismo viennese, dotato di un suono magnetico e colmo di sfumature
What's so amazing about this recording is the unrivaled thunder. No other recording has as much brutal force. The wrong notes in here don't even matter because of how earthshaking the performance is
Pelle d'oca! Wow
This piece is very haunting
i literally see one part where interpretation is impaired, 1:48, he needs to SLAM that bottom chord, but he didn't, but he did the rest perfectly. Literally, WOW
1:05 fantastic
I first heard this recording in a compilation video for epic moments of Scriabin's music, but by golly, Sultanov played the FUCK out of this piece. That middle voice @1:00... Scriabin was a genius for writing it in the background, the Sultanov was the one who really saw its potential and its power. Its sheer, overwhelming power.
the sound of that piano wow
That guy is literally me tho LmAO
Literally me
Well... that was intense. And the voicing, incredible.
Its so good...
"That guy tho lmao" 😂😂😂😂
Sultanov 😍
1:56 never thought a piano could sound like an electric guitar
Electric Guitar is too weak to make Russian expressions
What a performance...Outstanding.
Best interpretation of this piece!
Commovente e coinvolgente ❤️
Amazing version
Incredible passion in this performance.
Breathe, breathe, breathe …. It seems Scarlatti
The only word I have is 'WOW'. Just wow.....
The guy at the end could relate
@@derekpintozzi2498 he said “bravo” so fast it sounded like a scream lmao
wow this recording did not dissapoint. Took me many months to find something even close to this.
I've re-listened to 1:04 at least ten times today. the harmony is just so satisfying
My dream piece 🙌
Bb instead of D at 1:05 worked really well. Does anyone know if Scriabin ever made such an edition, or is it Sultanov's idea?
It might be Sultanov's interpretation to bring out the left hand's inner voice. So unique and awesome！！！
*instead of what? please tell me where to look, on what note and in what measure?
I thought he still played D with his right hand, but pointing the Bb more. Regardless, I find his interpretation very unique and it's kind of my taste
bar 25
its not substituted. he ist simply highlighting the left hand
I love the chaos of this piece
“RRRAH” indeed
nice
This version is absolutely incredible 😲
Inspired Russian Heart & Soul.
Fantastica!!!!!!!!
🔥🔥🔥BRAVOOOOOOOO UNREAL PLAYING
Really goood version...as said by many, the middle section with the added notes Is beautiful....only thing, the last seconds are quite weak, i prefer mr Horowitz thunder ending in the final notes.
Amazing execution anywere
I’m playing through some Chopin Etudes right now and I’m confident I can play about 3/4 of them.
But man I don’t even wanna touch this.
I mean, I do wanna touch it. I wanna touch it all over. But in that “I’m not touchin” that sorta touchin’…
Ya know?
the guy at the end is literally me
He can’t control himself. The piece is too epic
종말로 치닫는 슬픔.
Ах, как он играл, не дыша слушал зал. Силы великие, заново попала под чары Султанова !
I thought Horowitz's version was the best until I saw this-
I cant listen to music anymore after this.
In what way?
@Guest13 i cant enjoy anything other than this video for the rest of the day
@1:11 is that note right? its better than what i've heard!
2:14 AAAAAAAAAAAAAh
Lol I thought he just yelled bravo really badly, like brav´!
0:43
Ещё бы качество получше.
Non plus ultra , a genius …. We miss you ❤
this might be the only piece i can think of that could actually benefit from missed notes. somehow that seems to add to the character.
Deberían dar a Sultanov el premio póstumo Chopin ...
Sultanov is amazing, but also Horowitz uwu
Not here imo
@@SeigneurReefShark why?
@@AsrielKujo because I don't like horowitz, just not intense at all
@@SeigneurReefShark i know, i like the way he playes, because it's not supposed to be the feeling of depression and intense, but the feeling of the moment when you cannot even live with yourself anymore so you don't even try to say yourself, you just give up
@@AsrielKujo ok
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Лучшая интерпретация
this recordin is awsome! only the audio is bad
2:14 RIP guy who stubbed his toe...
I think it was more of an orgasm
You know your good when your playing gives someone a heart attack and kills them like the guys at the end.
I can't find this second melody at 1:06 in the score. Any help?
It's basically the second note of groups 1, 2, and 4 in the LH.
the “hidden” notes midway through 🤯
1:05 is undeniably brilliiantly performed but completely unnecessary as it shifts the focus and drowns the melody. Also too many mistakes in the first part. Still a breathtaking performance.
😭💔
Fantastic! Alexander Scriabin created a huge diamond and Alexei made a true Brilliant from it...
After this recording it is absolutely clear why old Horowitz was happy to ask Alexei playing Scriabin for him at the dusk of his life...
Did he???
@@ZKLofiTone Yes, this is described in Alexei's biographies, you can find this easily. Alexei was invited by Horowitz to his New York apartment and they even played together privately.
@@xxxstazy woww that's pretty sick! Horowitz must have been impressed!!
@@ZKLofiTone As Horowitz said: "I was always happy to hear something more elevated than me"
That yell!
crazy
Nice.
The fuck is that shout at the end 💀💀💀
What line is he bringing out at 1:00?
He's bringing out the second beat of the triplets. It's not meant to be brought out, but when you try to sight read the piece it makes sense why that voice is brought out. It's almost begging to be a counter melody, just because of the way harmony flows
@@themobiusfunction no it's not, it's the second note of each triplet starting with the Bb
Buenísima versión.
Pero Horowitz es el verdadero rey y el que mejor ha interpretado esta pieza.
Pretty awesome recording actually... better than the overrated Horowitz in my opinion
A thousand times better imo, I never liked Horowitz one surprisely.
@@SeigneurReefShark horowitz overrated? I mean scriabin himself said horowitz is extremely talented, and he was a close friend of rachmaninoff but ayy what do those old geezers know about piano anyways am i right
@@genesis6483 It's worth noting that late Horowitz was a very different pianist to early Horowitz.
Horowitz overrated lmao. Get a grip , just because Sultanov seems underrated , it doesn’t mean that everyone else is overrated. Yes this version is nice, but Horowitz has more colours and clarity while Sultanov feels more energetic. But please stop throwing around the term overrated as if you guys were some piano sages. Rather not overrate your own judgement.
@@kacht345 There are other pianists of the era, like Richter and Cziffra, who greatly outshine Horowitz in my personal opinion. Horowitz seems earthbound in comparison.
1:05 what voices did he mark ? I don't recognize it on the sheet music
The second beat of the triplets, starting with the Bb.
i actually really love this piece, it could pass for rachmaninoff!
Is the piano still alive ?
No it was beaten to death
where did he take the recording??????
Hi, is there a version without the funny scream at the end?
On spotify
@@duartevader2709 can you send the link or name
@@duartevader2709 can you send the link or name pls
Horowitz is better
No
@@SeigneurReefShark I'm not a fan of the horowitz worship either infact Richter is a better overall pianist. But horowitz does own this Etude. Just compare the ending section.
There's always someone who has to be negative on impactful performances like these. I guess it will be me.
I didnt like it. It's so loud and bang-y from the very first note. I get that it captures the spirit, but it's played 'fff' from the first note and dilites the true power of the climax. That's what makes tge Horowitz version so effective.
For those out there who will say, "Why don't you post your version, smart guy?" I could, but it wouldn't matter. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, and they usually stink.