The hart mower uses virtually the exact lithium battery as the Ryobi lithium batteries. There is a plastic cover with 5 hex screws that have to be removed to expose the batteries. In fact upon delivery you have to remove that cover and plug the batteries in in order to use this mower. Additionally there is a cord in the pouch of the seat that has to get plugged in under the seat to get this moving as well.
I have a gas tractor. I'm going to switch to electric this Spring. Leaning towards the Hart but hate that the color's white. For the price customers should have at least two or three options to choose.
I've tried the iDrive 30". It tackled hills forward but cut out and couldn't steer going down, that was frustrating. No answer from Ryobi or repair facility. Really liked riding, but returned it after hit house on down hill. The Green works was worse, only one wheel drive and could go up hill, back it went. Wonder about this Hart as it part of ITT and in Anderson SC. If I can steer and it runs like the iDrive, count me in. Gonna wait for a sale
I chose to buy a dead 48V Ryobi mower from someone who didn't want to mess with it and converted it to Lithium ion because I couldn't stomach the $3000 for a new 80V Ryobi. All said and done it cost me half of a new Li mower and I honestly think I prefer the universal nature of the 48V battery ecosystem. I can use whatever batteries I want.
I’m trying to ID a riding mower that can reliably fit through a 36 inch (truly 36) gate. This Hart and the new Ryobi 30 inch zero turn seem to be my two closest bets. If you remove the mulch plug from them, what are the actual widths of these mowers? Do I have any options to fit through my gate or am I back to a push mower?
I've looked all over for someone who has actually bought the HART riding mower to do review, but seems there aren't any. If you watch their "how to set up" video on HART mower, then can see the suitcase style Lithium Ion batteries (looks like 2). They look like ones in the new joystick Ryobi riding mowers, except blue / black color. Sure does look like the older 30 inch Ryobi riding mower, except with Lithium ion batteries. BUT... sure would like to see some folks actually having purchased & using over time before I sink money into one. -- I'm so torn on the Ryobi 30 inch with lead acid batteries. Some folks have great luck with them & using for years without problems, but others say the batteries fail quickly.
I own both a Hart and a Ryobi 40 volt walk behind mowers, and even though they are reportedly made by the same company, the batteries do not interchange.
I recently purchased the top of the line Hart 21 inch walking self propelled battery powered mower and my Walmart has a sales info sign for the riding mower. I looked in the Walmart blades section and they had several blades for the Hart mowers. I bought a spare for my new 21" self propelled mower. Hopefully you will find the blades available soon, in your store, for your rider.
2:28 This is the same 80v platform as the Ryobi. Same batteries, just different color scheme and branding. I hate the fact that when I bought one of these, they jacked the price up to $4k, and the zero turn Ryobi 80v up to $5k, now both are around $3k (Ryobi only temp).
The battery is most likely a clone of the Ryobi 80v suitcase, but the connector pins are going to be different. I'm sure you could not swap Hart and Ryobi batteries. There are multiple companies TTI produces for that have similar batteries, but the pins are always different. The batteries usually have different voltage limits too.
@@Jack5822 Unless something changed between when the demo videos of Ryobi 80v came out, and its actual availability in the US, the connectors even looked identical. At the time I specifically paused, zoomed in and played back the parts of the video where the batteries were showcased and then installed, and then compared them to the Hart 80v. They were identical, everything was identical other than the color of the plastic and the logo. This also includes the pin layout. I believe Hart also knew this, and were instructed to inform people that the batteries were not removable, when in fact they were because it was just a recolored Ryobi suitcase battery.
My problem is that I live in the northeast and my garage is detached so storing it means leaving it out in the cold and I don't think the lithium battery will like that
@@BeltwayJustice yes I can but the cold will still eat away at the battery during the winter. The best option for me would be one of the other models that have a removable battery
@@BeltwayJusticeFor the Hart mower I have no idea, the battery seems to be built in and they don't say amp hours. Hart says it will mow 1 acre but that's all they give us regarding runtime. The older Ryobi one did have different size lead acid batteries but at this day in age lead acid isn't worth it.
@@jdog8701 I actually do. Did almost an acre and still had about half the power left it’s comfortable. Steering is great . I also got the bagger attachment. It works fine. But I alternate weekly on bagging and mulching. Not much maintenance. 👍. Customer support is right on. No robo calls like when u call Verizon. They pick up and talk to you
batteries are under the seat. the plastic cover to the battery compartment is what you see when you flip the seat up. remove it and the suitcase batteries are underneath.
No one uses 100% of a lithium battery. They have voltage limits so that they can only operate and charge from 10-20% up to 80-90%. You still lose out on 20-40% capacity. If you exceed these limits you can damage the battery. The big differences are LA batteries offer up to 90 Wh/L (watt hours per liter) compared to Li batteries 600 Wh/L. The voltage drop off is another huge advantage to Li. By the time you near that 50% on the lead acid your voltage on a 48v battery is actually closer to 24v, whereas the 40v Li battery is still going to be putting out close to 38v All that to say Lithium ion batteries are not perfect, and do not drain 100% but they are a massive improvement over lead acid.
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The hart mower uses virtually the exact lithium battery as the Ryobi lithium batteries. There is a plastic cover with 5 hex screws that have to be removed to expose the batteries. In fact upon delivery you have to remove that cover and plug the batteries in in order to use this mower. Additionally there is a cord in the pouch of the seat that has to get plugged in under the seat to get this moving as well.
They do not interchange. The pins are spaced differently. I have a Ryobi at my house and a Hart at my father's house and I checked.
I have a gas tractor. I'm going to switch to electric this Spring. Leaning towards the Hart but hate that the color's white. For the price customers should have at least two or three options to choose.
They are lithium ion battery suitcase style. They are removable so you can take them out for the Winter or any other time.
and they're ten amp hour. :)
I've tried the iDrive 30". It tackled hills forward but cut out and couldn't steer going down, that was frustrating. No answer from Ryobi or repair facility. Really liked riding, but returned it after hit house on down hill. The Green works was worse, only one wheel drive and could go up hill, back it went. Wonder about this Hart as it part of ITT and in Anderson SC. If I can steer and it runs like the iDrive, count me in. Gonna wait for a sale
thanks for making this video. It's exactly what i wanted to know. very informative. keep 'em coming ! cheers! :)
I chose to buy a dead 48V Ryobi mower from someone who didn't want to mess with it and converted it to Lithium ion because I couldn't stomach the $3000 for a new 80V Ryobi. All said and done it cost me half of a new Li mower and I honestly think I prefer the universal nature of the 48V battery ecosystem. I can use whatever batteries I want.
I’m trying to ID a riding mower that can reliably fit through a 36 inch (truly 36) gate. This Hart and the new Ryobi 30 inch zero turn seem to be my two closest bets. If you remove the mulch plug from them, what are the actual widths of these mowers? Do I have any options to fit through my gate or am I back to a push mower?
If worse comes to worse, do what I did - resize the gate entrance 🙂
I've looked all over for someone who has actually bought the HART riding mower to do review, but seems there aren't any. If you watch their "how to set up" video on HART mower, then can see the suitcase style Lithium Ion batteries (looks like 2). They look like ones in the new joystick Ryobi riding mowers, except blue / black color. Sure does look like the older 30 inch Ryobi riding mower, except with Lithium ion batteries. BUT... sure would like to see some folks actually having purchased & using over time before I sink money into one. -- I'm so torn on the Ryobi 30 inch with lead acid batteries. Some folks have great luck with them & using for years without problems, but others say the batteries fail quickly.
Shrum has a new video….not sponsored, he bought it.
This was incredibly helpful! Definitely leaning toward the Hart now. How do you think it will handle thicker/taller/pasture grass?
Oh,cim not sure about pasture grass, that can be super thick and tough. Maybe give it a shot and if it doesn't work take it back.
I own both a Hart and a Ryobi 40 volt walk behind mowers, and even though they are reportedly made by the same company, the batteries do not interchange.
All the brands that TTI produces for have different batteries. Even if they are shaped the very similar the pins are different.
Thinking about getting one .Thanks 4 the review.
Anyone know how to change the battery on the HART ? Get replacement or additional batteries ?
Try batteries Plus
How's the HART on slopes?
No scalping wheels ??? Why. Your thoughts
I wish Walmart would stock replacement blades for Hart mowers in the store. They have blades for Gas mowers in store, but not Hart. Not sure why.
I recently purchased the top of the line Hart 21 inch walking self propelled battery powered mower and my Walmart has a sales info sign for the riding mower. I looked in the Walmart blades section and they had several blades for the Hart mowers. I bought a spare for my new 21" self propelled mower. Hopefully you will find the blades available soon, in your store, for your rider.
Haven't watched the entire video but can you pull something with the riding lawn mower?
Yes
@Live Free and Tool On do you know the towing capacity? Would I be able to pull a 40 in core aerator with this?
2:28 This is the same 80v platform as the Ryobi. Same batteries, just different color scheme and branding.
I hate the fact that when I bought one of these, they jacked the price up to $4k, and the zero turn Ryobi 80v up to $5k, now both are around $3k (Ryobi only temp).
The battery is most likely a clone of the Ryobi 80v suitcase, but the connector pins are going to be different. I'm sure you could not swap Hart and Ryobi batteries. There are multiple companies TTI produces for that have similar batteries, but the pins are always different. The batteries usually have different voltage limits too.
@@Jack5822 Unless something changed between when the demo videos of Ryobi 80v came out, and its actual availability in the US, the connectors even looked identical.
At the time I specifically paused, zoomed in and played back the parts of the video where the batteries were showcased and then installed, and then compared them to the Hart 80v. They were identical, everything was identical other than the color of the plastic and the logo. This also includes the pin layout.
I believe Hart also knew this, and were instructed to inform people that the batteries were not removable, when in fact they were because it was just a recolored Ryobi suitcase battery.
How much does the hart mower weigh? I don't have a garage
535 lbs
@@alpappalardi7044 thanks 😊
My problem is that I live in the northeast and my garage is detached so storing it means leaving it out in the cold and I don't think the lithium battery will like that
Can you run a extension cord.
@@BeltwayJustice yes I can but the cold will still eat away at the battery during the winter. The best option for me would be one of the other models that have a removable battery
@@xLTxVEGAx sorry another question. What are the other options with replacement batteries? I have gone with Dewalt for my other stuff.
@@BeltwayJusticeFor the Hart mower I have no idea, the battery seems to be built in and they don't say amp hours. Hart says it will mow 1 acre but that's all they give us regarding runtime. The older Ryobi one did have different size lead acid batteries but at this day in age lead acid isn't worth it.
You can remove the battery I’d assume because you have to install it. I believe it only charges on unit tho
So how do you change the batteries on the hart mower when they go bad
I don't know
I just got this ride on. Seems like there are two battery packs that pull out
@@alpappalardi7044 looking into this mower. How do you like it so far?
@@jdog8701 I actually do. Did almost an acre and still had about half the power left it’s comfortable. Steering is great . I also got the bagger attachment. It works fine. But I alternate weekly on bagging and mulching. Not much maintenance. 👍. Customer support is right on. No robo calls like when u call Verizon. They pick up and talk to you
Just saw you asked this months ago. Did you ever find out how to get replacement batteries if one goes bad ? Or hownyo get more batteries if needed ?
Does the Hart mower have cruise control?
No 😀
batteries are under the seat. the plastic cover to the battery compartment is what you see when you flip the seat up. remove it and the suitcase batteries are underneath.
you can only run it down to 20% then charge to 80% or it shorten the life a lot
No one uses 100% of a lithium battery. They have voltage limits so that they can only operate and charge from 10-20% up to 80-90%. You still lose out on 20-40% capacity. If you exceed these limits you can damage the battery. The big differences are LA batteries offer up to 90 Wh/L (watt hours per liter) compared to Li batteries 600 Wh/L. The voltage drop off is another huge advantage to Li. By the time you near that 50% on the lead acid your voltage on a 48v battery is actually closer to 24v, whereas the 40v Li battery is still going to be putting out close to 38v
All that to say Lithium ion batteries are not perfect, and do not drain 100% but they are a massive improvement over lead acid.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS RIDING MOWER AN RC LAWN MOWER WHY IT LOWERS THE WEIGHT OF THE MOWER AND YOU CAN MOW LONGER
Home depot has Ryobi 30" for $3000
This stings a bit if you already bought the Hart.
Now only 2,499 at Home Depot.
@@carbuff81 Still shows as $3000 for me.
@@deuswulf6193 Let me know, when you click that link if the price shows for you 3,000 still or 2,499.
$3500 bucks for small deck is a bit steep, and that's at walmart.
These mowers do not have anti scalding wheels