I can't believe everyone doesn't get it, it's obvious that the upgrade is limited as the base product is so good. So personally I'm happy to pay and support. To each their own.
@@shamrockisland the cool part is that it is not mandataory. I can get extra Desktop layouts and many programms pre installed... So yeah. 48$. But most money are for the R&D freely to be paid. And that is the cool part
@@shamrockisland it's no better than any other OS based on Ubuntu that you can customise yourself, but yes it is good to see people do contribute to opensource projects
I got a previous pro version for $39, and I figured it was fine because I considered it as support for the developers, and not necessarily price for the value of an upgrade. I actually ended up paying more since tax was not included. I see now that the $48 figure now includes tax.
Interesting, do you think it would be good for a small portion of that $48 to go to the projects that make Zorin possible like Gnome, KDE Connect, Ubuntu, etc?
Hello: Very good video. Zorin Os 17 Pro looks and feels great. The focus it has is for professional but it is also multipurpose, so it is within reach of any novice. It is a good way to fund the project. I agree with you that they could reward the most loyal supporters by giving them a discount if they already have the previous Pro version. Have a Happy New Year 2024. Many congratulations.
Thanks for the video. 48$US is way too steep. Btw you can make the free version (Lite) looks like the PRO with simple tweaking. They use gnome extensions which are free. (Ark Menu) The pre-installed programs in the PRO version can also be install in the free one. Beside that I can't find any differences.
The Pro version supports the developers though. It's not meant to really be anything other than that as Zorin OS is completely free as you mentioned. When you pay for Pro, they make it a little easier out of the box by including all of that software.
I always purchase the pro version because i believe the guys who produced this deserve it. I have been a keen Zorin user since version 16 and have upgraded every new version. Excellent OS. Now on version 17.1
Just about to install Zorin OS Pro right now. $48 is steep seeing as you can get a Windows 11 OEM License for about $30-$40. I would assume that if they dropped the price more people might be able to justify the cost and rather it go to Open Source communities like you said rather than to M$.
Ya no upgrade path for the paid version. at a discount for upgrade. I think paying for upgrades is air. But you should get somekind of discount.. Building a loyal user base should be abusiness goal. i would not like to see it go the way of Microsoft. Making good decision is a kin to how long you will be in business To which I would love to see them in it for a long time. Even maybe putting a extray program for upgrade may work. if my expericne is not outstanding who is to say I do not move to Linuxmint or some other distro. Which would weeken the company.
Windows user hoping to convert to linux. Started on ubuntu studio. Had too many issues no sound was crap. Tried linux mint and Zorin. Zorin seems better. Also trying open suse and kde neon. Not decided yet Zorin probably leading for easy to use however like kde.
@@dasgeek Honestly, considering you can get Windows key for less than $10 I'm afraid there's nothing they can do. $48 is just roughly what you pay for brand new, shiny AAA game and even than they get discounted to half price. Don't get me wrong, it looks good but there's nothing on Linux that's worth that much money.
Honestly, I agree that there isn't much that they could really do to make it worth $48. I feel like the only reason anyone would be willing to pay this is if they deliberately wanted to support the project financially. there's nothing wrong with that, people donate and support projects all the time. There just really isn't much incentive to purchase outside of that. The thing about Linux is that you can do whatever you want to it to make it do anything you want without paying that $48. I think a more appropriate price would be $25.
@@Crystawth fair points, I agree that most people are just paying it to support the project, not for the benefits. I also think that $25 is a better starting point. However, if they donated some of the funds to the projects that make up Zorin, I think it would go a long way.
Happy new year! I agree, it's beautiful. Will be interesting to see how it performs with rendering, gaming and other tasks. I'll do a follow-up once I've put it through some pain
yesterday I install zorin, it works very smooth and fast, performance is great, my laptop specs are i5 8 gen, nvidia mx150 8 gb ram I use this for coding using pycharm which is a heavy ide, and it work great
I had been using Zorin OS 16.3 Pro on an older laptop as Windows 10 and 11 were slowing things down, so I was excited to see the release of 17 Pro, and was invited through a link for an early upgrade path, but less excited when I realised I had to pay again (although there was a small loyalty discount). Sorry, but for purchasers of the previous version, is it too much to ask for a 50% discount to keep us loyal? I've reinstalled to Zorin OS 17 now, but core, not pro, so that's one Pro customer they've lost, but I'm still sticking with Zorin, as it really is an excellent distro, and great video 🙂
Thanks for posting, I waited on Pro until I used the Zorin Upgrade App and saw a 20% off for v16 Pro buyers. Have your email and old support code handy. Do a fresh OS update and backup your files and have an hour+ to spare before starting. In the app there is a link for the discount code and purchase v17 Pro. I wish the discount was more, sorry.
I installed it in VMware Workstation Player. It is ZorinOS Core. The OS basically is smooth in flow, but time to time it gets stutters or screen freeze for 1 second. I gave him 10GB RAM, 5 Core and 100GB from my SSD. Could it be because of VMware that it doesn't work flowlessly?
I would say that every DISTRO should be at least 20..., WHY? the level that linux has evolved and got much better lately is insane! TAKE MY MONEY without the BS spying M)*)&SOFT thing!
What HARDWARE are you using to run Linux normally? Can you get the options you describe in the free version of Zorin - or in the distros like Fedora and Debian? If Zorin OS 17.1 is based on Gnome, then how do we understand that it looks and works like KDE?
I didn't know of Pipe Wire before this video. I said screw it, might as well install it. I'm using a laptop and the sound with Pulse was muddy through the laptop speakers. After setting it live, I lost my audio. Its important to restart even in Linux lol. When my computer restarted, the audio is a lot cleaner, the muddiness is gone. So thank you for taking about it! As far as Zorin as a whole, I wish I could calibrate the monitor (Needs a little more saturation). But as a whole, I have not liked a Linux Distro this much. And because EDGE browser works in Linux now, I have lost all need for Windows!
You have to ask yourself is the price worth the time taken to install FREE software and to gain a few desktop themes/wallpapers. I have no issue contributing to the ongoing development and support but don't trying to tell me in that you are providing premium alternatives to thousands of dollars of software for that price.
I am a bit curious: My parents are going to visit me for a week and asked me to let them have a laptop which is easy to use. I wouldn't pay now as it is a one week kind of thing, but I will check the free version.
they should really do a pro trial version. i have used windows since 3.1 and i am looking to move to linux but i dont want to pay 47 just to have a look to see if the os is for me
I am having issues with my mother boards sound and Linux Mint the issue is with Realtek ALC892 as my Asus ZR-170 ar has that ship set for sound.. I am also having issues with HDR support. How's Zorin with those items? Maybe worth getting a copy and just try and see if it helps. I see also you're a gamer and loaded Steam, how's it working with gaming? Thanks for your help.
I wish I could get Windows 7 or XP to run on my Ryzen 7950x with 128gb I would dwmp Windows 10 in a heartbeat. Never running 11. Linux still isn't there yet. Which leaves me in a pickle of using Windows 10 for the next 20 years or as long as I can hold out. I had it dual booting to Zorin 16 but that install went pear shaped on me and things started breaking. The software installer and package manager just was creating a big mess of things that didn't work. Zorin won't install either under Windows 10 VM, or I'd give it another chance.
I wish there was a DE that was a pixel-perfect clone of the ChromeOS DE. ChromeOS was the best time I've ever had using a laptop. Regardless, it's cool that Zorin offers ChromeOS-like and is unironically a strong reason I would pay for Pro. Yes I waste my money often.
I chose Zorin Pro because a TH-cam review showed the install was easy, I wanted the pre installed curated software and I wanted to support the Zorin team. I wanted something that I could use immediately and then gradually learn about the Linux world. It worked out better than expected. I stopped dual booting within a couple of weeks - and that was just to copy files over - not to use any apps. Zorin made the switch from windows smooth and quick. I left windows because of the increasing amount of ads, background processes and pop ups.
I do wish that there were more color options in Accent Colors--if there were, then I'd be extremely tempted to try it. I'll be interested in Zorin OS 18--perhaps more options will be made available.
Attractive distro indeed, but unfortunately am on Nvidia, and wayland is just a blockade for now. Xorg is sluggish and not as performant as it should be, i'll be waiting until they fix Nvidia-wayland relationship thing
I have supported Zorin for years now. I bought 16 pro when it came out for $39 USD and have bought it 4 times in the past. When I saw that it was $48 USD I have hesitated from purchasing it. At one point it was only $14 for the pro. I really think that they should give past buyers a break in the price. The fact that they decided to wait until almost time for a new LTS to come out to release this also makes me hesitate in even using core. I have played with 17 beta and core release and it is beautiful but coming from Fedora workstation using Gnome 45 to going back to Gnome 43 with parts of gnome 44 and 45 mixed in could work if I really wanted it to but since the base is considered old, why would I? I think they should have just waited until 24.04 came out and based Zorin on that. Now I would have to wait almost 2 years before they do so.
Pro version of Zorin isn't worth the money. Its just gives you some additional desktop layouts and bunch of soft you don't need, like arbour or kdenlive.
so you pay $48 per seat for a Desktop you can create and customise yourself in Ubuntu... Am I missing something?, you're not really getting anything extra if you're paying. So it's a donation, why not just be honest
mmm... unfortunately there will not be a rush to Linux from Mac or Windows, I've been involved with linux since 2004, there's never been a mass exodus to Linux. It won't happen unless people are forced to like in Russia with all the sanctions, Russians have had to move over to alternatives which is a good thing because since the sanctions on Russia the dev updates and improvements have exploded
I think most people just see it as supporting an open-source project. Whether it's worth it or not is up to each individual. There is always the free community edition.
I see the $48 as a contribution
I can't believe everyone doesn't get it, it's obvious that the upgrade is limited as the base product is so good. So personally I'm happy to pay and support. To each their own.
@@shamrockisland the cool part is that it is not mandataory. I can get extra Desktop layouts and many programms pre installed... So yeah. 48$. But most money are for the R&D freely to be paid. And that is the cool part
@@shamrockisland it's no better than any other OS based on Ubuntu that you can customise yourself, but yes it is good to see people do contribute to opensource projects
I have been using Zoran pro since version 15. I agree the simplicity and the ease of use is worth quite a bit in my opinion. Nice video.
Nice Review Ryan, ive paid for this just to support the Zorin people, same as ive done with other distro's , Greetings from Cape Town, South Africa
Love that attitude and I think it's important to do so. We have so many friends that listen to Destination Linux podcast from Cape Town. Much love!
I got a previous pro version for $39, and I figured it was fine because I considered it as support for the developers, and not necessarily price for the value of an upgrade. I actually ended up paying more since tax was not included. I see now that the $48 figure now includes tax.
Interesting, do you think it would be good for a small portion of that $48 to go to the projects that make Zorin possible like Gnome, KDE Connect, Ubuntu, etc?
@@dasgeek Yes, I would support that. The more people help each other out, the more success we can have together.
Hello:
Very good video.
Zorin Os 17 Pro looks and feels great. The focus it has is for professional but it is also multipurpose, so it is within reach of any novice.
It is a good way to fund the project. I agree with you that they could reward the most loyal supporters by giving them a discount if they already have the previous Pro version.
Have a Happy New Year 2024.
Many congratulations.
100% , loyalty rewards go a long way. Couldn't agree more about its look and feel. Cheers!
Thanks for the video. 48$US is way too steep. Btw you can make the free version (Lite) looks like the PRO with simple tweaking. They use gnome extensions which are free. (Ark Menu) The pre-installed programs in the PRO version can also be install in the free one. Beside that I can't find any differences.
The Pro version supports the developers though. It's not meant to really be anything other than that as Zorin OS is completely free as you mentioned. When you pay for Pro, they make it a little easier out of the box by including all of that software.
Lucky some support so others can get it free.
I always purchase the pro version because i believe the guys who produced this deserve it. I have been a keen Zorin user since version 16 and have upgraded every new version. Excellent OS. Now on version 17.1
Last video of 2023! Happy New Year 🎉
Happy New Year!
Just subscribed to your channel. I love your laid back, not too serious yet informative style. Bravo on a great video.
Just about to install Zorin OS Pro right now. $48 is steep seeing as you can get a Windows 11 OEM License for about $30-$40. I would assume that if they dropped the price more people might be able to justify the cost and rather it go to Open Source communities like you said rather than to M$.
Ya no upgrade path for the paid version. at a discount for upgrade. I think paying for upgrades is air. But you should get somekind of discount.. Building a loyal user base should be abusiness goal. i would not like to see it go the way of Microsoft. Making good decision is a kin to how long you will be in business To which I would love to see them in it for a long time. Even maybe putting a extray program for upgrade may work. if my expericne is not outstanding who is to say I do not move to Linuxmint or some other distro. Which would weeken the company.
The only things noobs care about:
Does it look nice?
Is it easy to use?
Noobs and professionals who just want to get their work done.
I love zorin OS been on 16 since it released. Its (amazing and stable) Love your superman shirt!
Thanks TJ! I love hearing it's been a great experience for you.
It's Nome, not Gah Nome... Sorry, pet peeves... ( I subscribed anyway ) :)
lol this has been going on for ages haha
Windows user hoping to convert to linux. Started on ubuntu studio. Had too many issues no sound was crap. Tried linux mint and Zorin. Zorin seems better. Also trying open suse and kde neon. Not decided yet Zorin probably leading for easy to use however like kde.
Looking for best-looking Linux distro since Microsoft showcased Recall.
Looks wise it's stunning. $48 for something that is basically a "paint job" is way too much, unless they provide above average support.
Understand where you're coming from. Curious what would could they do to make it worth $48 for you?
@@dasgeek Honestly, considering you can get Windows key for less than $10 I'm afraid there's nothing they can do. $48 is just roughly what you pay for brand new, shiny AAA game and even than they get discounted to half price. Don't get me wrong, it looks good but there's nothing on Linux that's worth that much money.
Honestly, I agree that there isn't much that they could really do to make it worth $48. I feel like the only reason anyone would be willing to pay this is if they deliberately wanted to support the project financially. there's nothing wrong with that, people donate and support projects all the time. There just really isn't much incentive to purchase outside of that. The thing about Linux is that you can do whatever you want to it to make it do anything you want without paying that $48.
I think a more appropriate price would be $25.
@@Crystawth fair points, I agree that most people are just paying it to support the project, not for the benefits. I also think that $25 is a better starting point. However, if they donated some of the funds to the projects that make up Zorin, I think it would go a long way.
Another good reason would be paying to have the os ready to use, I mean you can get it for and do it yourself but you're paying so you don't have to?
Zorin looks really great! And Happy New Year👍!
Happy new year! I agree, it's beautiful. Will be interesting to see how it performs with rendering, gaming and other tasks. I'll do a follow-up once I've put it through some pain
@@dasgeek NJ. Is anyone on duty this day?
G-nome. 🤣 I always have a laugh at how Americans and Canadians say that.
After being in the Linux community for 6 years, I realize no matter how I say it, someone will complain. It's a lose lose situation =)
That's because they're illiterate.
yesterday I install zorin, it works very smooth and fast, performance is great, my laptop specs are
i5 8 gen, nvidia mx150
8 gb ram
I use this for coding using pycharm which is a heavy ide, and it work great
I moved from Zorin 16.3 to Zorin 17 and regret, flameshot and many other apps don't work like in Zorin 16.3, which is much worse instead!
I had been using Zorin OS 16.3 Pro on an older laptop as Windows 10 and 11 were slowing things down, so I was excited to see the release of 17 Pro, and was invited through a link for an early upgrade path, but less excited when I realised I had to pay again (although there was a small loyalty discount). Sorry, but for purchasers of the previous version, is it too much to ask for a 50% discount to keep us loyal? I've reinstalled to Zorin OS 17 now, but core, not pro, so that's one Pro customer they've lost, but I'm still sticking with Zorin, as it really is an excellent distro, and great video 🙂
Thanks for posting, I waited on Pro until I used the Zorin Upgrade App and saw a 20% off for v16 Pro buyers. Have your email and old support code handy. Do a fresh OS update and backup your files and have an hour+ to spare before starting. In the app there is a link for the discount code and purchase v17 Pro. I wish the discount was more, sorry.
I installed it in VMware Workstation Player.
It is ZorinOS Core. The OS basically is smooth in flow, but time to time it gets stutters or screen freeze for 1 second.
I gave him 10GB RAM, 5 Core and 100GB from my SSD.
Could it be because of VMware that it doesn't work flowlessly?
personally, i have no issues with a paid linux for desktop use? that said for mass adoption worldwide i feel $48 is just too much?
I would say that every DISTRO should be at least 20..., WHY? the level that linux has evolved and got much better lately is insane! TAKE MY MONEY without the BS spying M)*)&SOFT thing!
What HARDWARE are you using to run Linux normally?
Can you get the options you describe in the free version of Zorin - or in the distros like Fedora and Debian?
If Zorin OS 17.1 is based on Gnome, then how do we understand that it looks and works like KDE?
I didn't know of Pipe Wire before this video. I said screw it, might as well install it. I'm using a laptop and the sound with Pulse was muddy through the laptop speakers. After setting it live, I lost my audio. Its important to restart even in Linux lol. When my computer restarted, the audio is a lot cleaner, the muddiness is gone. So thank you for taking about it! As far as Zorin as a whole, I wish I could calibrate the monitor (Needs a little more saturation). But as a whole, I have not liked a Linux Distro this much. And because EDGE browser works in Linux now, I have lost all need for Windows!
I purchased a new laptop and opted to upgrade to Zorin Pro for $39. I'm glad I did. Zorin is beautiful and solid. I will NEVER go back to Windows.
I get more done with Linux Mint...
Zorin will be replaced with Pop OS so
I can develop my websites and coding
Projects..
Well now! I think I've found my jumping-on point for Linux!
You have to ask yourself is the price worth the time taken to install FREE software and to gain a few desktop themes/wallpapers. I have no issue contributing to the ongoing development and support but don't trying to tell me in that you are providing premium alternatives to thousands of dollars of software for that price.
But it's basically gnome- right?
Agreed to some of the comments here that I see the 48 as a way to support the distro
I am a bit curious: My parents are going to visit me for a week and asked me to let them have a laptop which is easy to use. I wouldn't pay now as it is a one week kind of thing, but I will check the free version.
they should really do a pro trial version. i have used windows since 3.1 and i am looking to move to linux but i dont want to pay 47 just to have a look to see if the os is for me
$48 is a bargain compared to bloated, buggy ransomspyware disguised as an OS.
I'd like to give you a LIKE, but the count is at 420, and I can't mess that up.
Dong like thevtop bar and full screen star menu remind me of windows 8 gnome suck
I upgraded to the pro version to thank the Zorin guys and was happy to pay the dosh
"Fight me in the comments"
I am having issues with my mother boards sound and Linux Mint the issue is with Realtek ALC892 as my Asus ZR-170 ar has that ship set for sound.. I am also having issues with HDR support. How's Zorin with those items? Maybe worth getting a copy and just try and see if it helps. I see also you're a gamer and loaded Steam, how's it working with gaming? Thanks for your help.
I wish I could get Windows 7 or XP to run on my Ryzen 7950x with 128gb
I would dwmp Windows 10 in a heartbeat. Never running 11. Linux still isn't there yet.
Which leaves me in a pickle of using Windows 10 for the next 20 years or as long as I can hold out.
I had it dual booting to Zorin 16 but that install went pear shaped on me and things started breaking. The software installer and package manager just was creating a big mess of things that didn't work.
Zorin won't install either under Windows 10 VM, or I'd give it another chance.
I wish there was a DE that was a pixel-perfect clone of the ChromeOS DE. ChromeOS was the best time I've ever had using a laptop. Regardless, it's cool that Zorin offers ChromeOS-like and is unironically a strong reason I would pay for Pro. Yes I waste my money often.
I purchase Zorin Ultimate in 2018. I should receive the Pro version as well. :( and yes $48 is alot seeing Linux Mint is right there waiting.
I chose Zorin Pro because a TH-cam review showed the install was easy, I wanted the pre installed curated software and I wanted to support the Zorin team. I wanted something that I could use immediately and then gradually learn about the Linux world. It worked out better than expected. I stopped dual booting within a couple of weeks - and that was just to copy files over - not to use any apps. Zorin made the switch from windows smooth and quick. I left windows because of the increasing amount of ads, background processes and pop ups.
I do wish that there were more color options in Accent Colors--if there were, then I'd be extremely tempted to try it.
I'll be interested in Zorin OS 18--perhaps more options will be made available.
Is the Zorin os Steam friendly?
Core user here Zorin working great
Nice appreciate you giving your thoughts on Core!
It's always a good idea to Donate to free open source project especially an entire OS like Zorin. We should help out too as we can from time to time
also runs old version of Gnome
or you install gnome and choose the dark mode
No one likes dark mode especially me.
tiene escritorios de Pantheon -elemtary-, chrome os, y w7 entre otros.
Hello could you post here a link of your version of zorin os pro 17?
Attractive distro indeed, but unfortunately am on Nvidia, and wayland is just a blockade for now. Xorg is sluggish and not as performant as it should be, i'll be waiting until they fix Nvidia-wayland relationship thing
They do have an option during install just for Nvidia so you should be golden to try it out.
I paid for pro to support them.
I have supported Zorin for years now. I bought 16 pro when it came out for $39 USD and have bought it 4 times in the past. When I saw that it was $48 USD I have hesitated from purchasing it. At one point it was only $14 for the pro. I really think that they should give past buyers a break in the price. The fact that they decided to wait until almost time for a new LTS to come out to release this also makes me hesitate in even using core. I have played with 17 beta and core release and it is beautiful but coming from Fedora workstation using Gnome 45 to going back to Gnome 43 with parts of gnome 44 and 45 mixed in could work if I really wanted it to but since the base is considered old, why would I? I think they should have just waited until 24.04 came out and based Zorin on that. Now I would have to wait almost 2 years before they do so.
Fair points, I wasn't aware of the price increases, good to know.
Last desktop was Mate.
Mate is pretty great
@@dasgeek I prefer KDE myself. KDE Neon.
@@johanb.7869 KDE is always a good choice
Pro version of Zorin isn't worth the money. Its just gives you some additional desktop layouts and bunch of soft you don't need, like arbour or kdenlive.
that much money for paintjob donot worth
so you pay $48 per seat for a Desktop you can create and customise yourself in Ubuntu... Am I missing something?, you're not really getting anything extra if you're paying. So it's a donation, why not just be honest
Thanks for this video, I already bought the 16 pro version, did i need to pay again to get the newest version?
Very big question!
short answer, no, its just another linux distro your just paying for a better ui
mmm... unfortunately there will not be a rush to Linux from Mac or Windows, I've been involved with linux since 2004, there's never been a mass exodus to Linux. It won't happen unless people are forced to like in Russia with all the sanctions, Russians have had to move over to alternatives which is a good thing because since the sanctions on Russia the dev updates and improvements have exploded
From $39.00 to 48.00...
Just ask for $60.00 and call it a day!
When 18 comes out, another 48 dollars.
It is your money if you want to throw it away.
I think most people just see it as supporting an open-source project. Whether it's worth it or not is up to each individual. There is always the free community edition.
Would you rather pay for a Microsoft key?
I have tried all of these distro’s Ubuntu and Linux Mint are still the best don’t waste your time
Pipewire came installed on my Zorin 17 Pro, also I installed kde-plasma-weyland in the Zorin framework with no issues.
the pro version can be had for free from the pirate bay!