A Girl's Ego | My Hero Academia S7 Ep 20 Reaction
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Another remarkable episode!
Y'all HAVE to watch "IT'S WHAT'S INSIDE" get to it gang!
this szn might potentially be the best szn of MHA. The most consistent szn in a long time
Anyone notice they killed thousands of people in the town. They are responsible for thousands of murders.😂 this girl Gotta go😂
This is the Most Underrated Fight in the series.
You should check out the world most notorious talker runs the world's strongest clan
Sheera almost about to tear up whilst Roshi and Lupa talking about a primary lotus😂
It was hilarious 😂
I mean they're right 😬
Average ybr emotional scene 😂😂😂
That reminds me when lupa was in his feelings during that bakugo episode and Roshi and Sheera just laughing lmao
I heard Uraraka's VA cried after recording this episode. Toga is indeed an amazing character, worthy of being in the top 10
She did...while recording and afterwards. S/o Ayane Sakura 🙏🏾❤
That's what makes stuff like this so much more immersive
Man, she was incredible. What an amazing voice actress. She’s not a slacker, she lives for this!
I cried watching this even tho I read the manga 💀 hits way more, animated
@@juanporras4936 Agreed
The fact that we haven't seen uraraka vomit from over using her powers in a longggg time just goes to show u how much work 1-A puts in man. It's very impressive
The difference 1 year can make is astounding
Ngl I completely forgot that was even a thing with her
@@fAKSDFKamsdf actually completely forgot that myself, i was just thinking it was from getting stabbed in the guts.
I think she vomit because of the stab wound stab wounds can make u sick and dizzy
Toga is an absolutely amazing character. I am so glad she was the main focus for an episode or 2! It really does her justice.
100% agree. One reason why shes one of my favorite characters since day 1 she was introduced. This show really does a good job with characters even the villians cause in most cases its hard to hate them unless they are written that way.
Do you mind explaining her more in detail? I found her crazy. Her life was bad because of her quirk...and she became bad due to how society treated her.
@@sirmel11 In a basic sense she didn't feel her quirk made her life bad. What made it bad was the way people treated her for it. She was called a deviant and not human because she had a fascination with blood due to her quirk. Something that should have never been THAT much of an issue. Her parents and peers told her not to smile because it looked scary and she spent her entire childhood wearing a metaphorical mask. Eventually, she decided that life was too hard to live, so she became a criminal, and joined the LoV to make it easier. If she met even 1 person who could tolerate her fascination with blood, then she would not have ended up the killer she is today.
*it might seem crazy what im about to say*
@@sirmel11 I feel like one part of this episode that was translated weirdly in the anime would have explained it better. In the manga in the flashbacks Toga is saying "I kissed it better." as opposed to "I sucked on it because it was bleeding." and also "Is everyone suppressing their desire to become the ones they love? Why doesn't anyone else kiss* the way I do?"
She's just a child that doesn't know any better. Keep in mind that she is still 16-17 by this point, and that she never got the proper care she needed because as you saw, her parents didn't want to cater to her specific situation, they wanted her to be normal.
Ochako accepting Toga even when her own parents rejected her made me cry so hard this episode
It reminded me of when Deku told Eri that her power was a blessing after hearing her entire life that it was a curse. Here uraraka is jealous of her smile when toga has always been called a monster for it
When it comes to the villains, it’s not just them being criminals, they’re people who weren’t given a chance or had bad upbringings. But this new gen of heroes is changing that, with La Brava, Gentle, and Nagant being proof that there’s redemption for these “villains”. This episode was beautiful. It’s unfortunate Twice couldn’t be saved or that it took so long for Dabi to be finally seen and looked at. I’m glad Toga was finally able to be reached and connected to.
It’s so sad but I’m happy at least one member of the league of villains was saved before she had to die.
This right here! 🗣️
I'd never read the manga when the show was still at season 3 or 4 so I always wrote the show off as just having a simple good v evil plot. I never thought it would get so grey and realistic with it's morals!
Everyone in the League is simply misunderstood or shunned "human beings". People who grew up without family/friends to love them or know how to love them properly, as well as people who grew up with things that are out of their control. Feeling like you're not able to be understood or accepted by anyone can lead you down a pretty dark path in life
I really appreciate Sheera's commentary on episodes like this. She tends to hit it right on the head, it's not about absolving the villains but understanding where they're coming from.
It's easy enough to see things in black and white and just go, "You're bad, you need to be locked up / executed!" But then how would that help the next person who inevitably falls down that same path?
The world would just continue to shun and overlook the people who "aren't normal" and inadvertently create more monsters to be put on the chopping block instead of trying to understand where people come from and give them the support and love that they lack.
Cool. Now go to prison forever
Sheera, The G.o.a.t. 🐐
😂😂 Str8 from he🏒🏒 - that's where
Mha been on a generational run this past few weeks 🔥🔥
Glad to see yall still uploading. Stay safe from the hurricane 🙏🏾🙏🏾✊🏾
Where are they at?
We got a bit of a glimpse into Toga's past back in MVA but I'm glad Horikoshi delved a little deeper this time. Once again, a lot of the parents in this series kinda suck. And this also says a lot not just about the parents but about the quirk counseling system and hero society at large. Rather than trying to provide Toga with a healthy alternative or teaching her that just because she has a quirk relating to blood doesn't define her, they instead lean into the stereotype that we've seen ever since Shinso was introduced. People with quirks that are seen as "scary" or "villainous" are treated like villains. Called freaks or subhuman. The quirk counseling only tried to convert Toga into being "normal" and her parents called her inhuman. There was no attempt to help. There was only forced conversion. And because of a lack of support, she eventually became the monster they accused her of being.
I see people talking about how, "Oh. Just because they have a sad backstory doesn't justify their actions". And, obviously. Their backstory is to show how they got their mindset. Not to say that they're right. However, that doesn't mean that the message they're asking is wrong. That's what Horikoshi is trying to convey. That's what Nagant's entire character is about when she first appeared. To ask the question, "After the heroes defeat the villains, what next?" If the answer is that everything goes back to the way it was, then they failed. They didn't learn anything. More Toga's, Toya's and Tenko's will be created. The system currently in place is one that rejects people who look different, people who think different, and people with quirks that are considered to be "villainous". Even if the heroes defeat the villains of today, unless they change the system in place, they will actively be creating the villains of tomorrow. And in that sense, unless there is true change, there can be no victory.
And I think this all ties back to Twice's line in the Overhaul arc. "I may be a villain, but I'm still human". These people were treated as less than human in some instances. And only by acknowledging all of their qualities, both good and bad can the human inside of them be understood. Ochako was able to find the source of Toga's pain. Her parents and those around her called her less than human. An anomaly. They said her smile was creepy and sickening. Ochako saw that same smile, that same person. And she said Toga was the cutest in the whole world and that she's willing to spend the rest of her life giving her blood. Ochako knows that blood is the way Toga feels and expresses love. For Deku. For Stain. For Ochako herself. And she showed Toga she was willing to accept all of her love. Ochako succeeded in saving a villain.
Beautifully put.
Have you read the ending?
Do you think true change in the system was brought ? If so how?
Bro, the kid sucked blood and killed small animals at an early age, if your kid did that, you’d be going crazy trying to solve the problem. This hippie sh’t sounds good but in reality you’re just creating another Dexter
@@Anon-qp3ktyea, in a normal world, but this is a world with a well established superhuman society at this point. The problem was that there was no support structure for her at all to help her. Toga’s quirk gives her an innate fascination with blood. She sucks blood from things and people because she has to constantly fight against compulsions and put a mask on. Had there been a proper support structure, it could have been as simple as getting a supply of blood from a blood bank which are pretty’s normal in our world. Trying to “fix” her is the same energy as putting gay people in conversion camps to make them “normal”.
@@Anon-qp3ktThat sparrow actually did just fall in her backyard and she thought kisses would make it better
Her parents thought she killed it to drink it’s blood
How to describe this episode "girls having fun with each other with girl stuff" but now it's time for the BIG BOYS to have fun! (Allmight vs All for one) But for real
The episode was beautiful
As a disabled/autistic person, Himiko's backstory hits DIFFERENT for me. Like, with the right support, resources, and people around her just giving enough of a fuck, she could've been FINE at least, or fucking amazing at best like Sheera was pointing out. Her Quirk legitimately gives her an in-universe disability, period, and it needs some sort of accessibility in place for her to have any hope of functioning in their society. But they were far more concerned with "fixing" her than HELPING her.
Like, let's really think about it. Even in OUR universe, blood donations have been a think for ages now, and MHA is set in the near future. There's no reason they couldn't have had a system in place to get her blood to help keep her cravings in check. Then with that, they'd just need to get her an ACTUAL therapist/counselor to helpteach her how to manage her emotions, unlike the one they DID give her, that was basically just like, "Oh, you crazy lil bitch, we need to fix you because you're a freak
Aint reading allat
Even more than what Sheera said, if they had taken her to a blood bank or something, they could have fed her like a tablespoon of type O- blood and then gotten her to donate blood while taking that persons form, essentially reproducing extra O- blood.
@@CupOfWhiskey The crazy part is nobody asked you to, but stay safe out there lmfao
@@izukukageyama7552 Biggest of facts. She could've been an INSANE asset but they fumbled the bag via lack of empathy and patience lol
😂😂😂 sureeee buddy
An emotional heartfelt moment occuring - Roshi: "I'm going to drop you now." 😂
Litterally one of the best episodes ever , it's emotional, animation epic, song is epic, whole episode is 🔥🔥🔥
This was the saddest MHA episode. And the continuation in the next one is the final drop that'll break the dam😭
Roshi would get along well with Hero Public Safety Commission
He'd fr be Nagant's and Walk's successor!
This episode beautifully animated. The voice actors, ost stunning. It was such an emotional seeing ochako's quirk awakening insane. The conversation between Toga and Ochako hits you in the feels.
This episode always makes me tear up no matter how many times I watch it, beautiful episode. I knew what would happen and still cried my first watch. The VA's put their souls into this
"the cutest in the world" STRAIGHT BUCKETS!!! NOTHING BUT TEARS!!!
I really loved this episode, not just the OST and the visuals but just how Toga’s tragic character reflects reality. Not just in the MHA universe where many people are already failed from birth , but how it can correspond to our society, and those battling mental illnesses. Many people walk this earth with an altered brain chemistry and are casted away from society- I mean how many of us can accept a child that likes to drink blood? I like how Ochaco , instead of asking Toga to be normal, decided to speak in her language. Really puts me to shame as someone who loves Neuroscience but I have never thought of looking at situations from their perspective no matter how fucked it may be. Great episode
This team-up is pure gold!
lmfao …. “ .. you hafta land on your neck now …” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The crazy thing is, if she hadn't been systematically failed by everyone around her even if she didn't become a hero she could very easily have gotten a job at a hospital. If they let her drink some type O- blood in exchange for her donating more blood back while taking that persons form, they could essentially produce extra O- blood while also satisfying her cravings ethically.
Except nlood donations take about 30minutes, her quirk doesn’t last long and she’s essentially being farmed out to be blood cattle which is crazy. One person can’t cater to a hospital’s demands
I damn near cried at the end of this episode, I was always a fan of Toga and just, ugh, Ochako was a real girl’s girl for reaching out genuinely to Toga. Gosh, Horikoshi man.
Jeez man, this whole season is just an emotional roller-coaster. Ochako's level up was insane to see and I just love her development throughout the series. And I genuinely felt bad for Toga.
3:23 Lmfao Lupa's crazy😂 why did he make me laugh at that serious scene
Literally bro 🤣
9:55 Remind me to stay away from Roshi if we ever get any form of powers
"You...think im cute...?"
*Cough Cough* "...Domain Expansion."
Congratulations!!!
You’re the first one I’ve seen in this comment section to do the meme.
Nah this talk no jutsu hittin rn
It's not talk no jutsu
@@adrianoespinoza4073 This was literally talk no jutsu
This episode was a Gravity Rush of emotions. They would've been best friends had they met earlier
Crying they really had a therapy session in mid air while roshi and lupa making step brothers references, I luv y'all man 😭
I wont pretend i didnt see you smile!
I wont pretend i didnt see you cry!
Peak parallels
You guys never fail to make even the most serious moments hilarious with your reactions, and I love it.
that's her quirk, so, she's like, "why the hell everyone not sucking blood"
Exactly, it could be compared to having a mental illness or condition. Being ostracized because of it only serves to make her turn out how she did
@@Jaws_on_Mars🫥 - so we're giving killers a pass now due to backgrounds? People.. it's burglarizing, or assault, or grand theft.. she's murdering people because they don't like her quirk.. Just doesn't sit right no matter how it's being sliced. Emotional it may be, but practical? No.
*Toga finally got the love and validation that she needed and deserved all this time. If I’m being honest, despite everything she’s done, I do feel incredibly sorry for Toga. She was unfairly ostracized for how she expressed her love, but now, she’s finally met someone who accepts her. Uraraka is amazing.*
This content is award-worthy!
Next week. I'm not emotionally ready. Favorite encounter. I will cry.
Ok I know I keep saying the VA’s are amazing cause they all are, but holy shit did the VA’s do amazing this episode especially Ochacco and Toga’s. And ofc the animation and the lighting this episode was so good
"Am I cute?"
"Domain Expansion"
Nah, you guys are vile for clowning around while Sheera's about to cry! 😂😂
But yeah man, it was such a beautiful & emotional episode! It really HIT for me.
Uraraka gravity is currently like lifting the world, and imagine her stomach pain whilst having a stabbed wound.
can y’all be serious for ONE SECOND 😭😭
Ochako’s va was getting paid this episode 😭
I really enjoy the focus on Toga. I mean, her quirk basically made her crave blood, which got shunned. It's sad...
The understanding of Uraraka essentially accepting that "weirdness" in Toga is beautiful. It isn't something Toga can control. This episode was so impactful..
Peak voice acting, peak episode!
Uraraka's Float Quirk awakened like Shigaraki's decay.
This episode shocked me in the manga. I had decided in my head I knew where the Toga battle was going, and then these chapters came and COMPLETELY threw everything I thought through a loop. Not only was this beyond anything I tried to predict, but it changed the entire dang character for both Toga and Uraraka that perfectly explained the characters. A character that freaked me out but didn't really have much to write home about, and one I genuinely didn't think was possible for me to enjoy more as my 2nd favorite character right behind Izuku Midoriya.
Sad Man's Death Parade continues as Toga looks at Touya go down from a distance. Losing yet another person that actually "supported" her. (He cares more than he lets on, but Touya always makes it confusing regardless.) Spare a thought for Horikoshi hand drawing a gajillion Twice duplicates. I seem to recall these chapters being shorter if they had wide shots of the Twice cluster. For obvious reasons. And now this unending, expanding cluster is essentially becoming a monster that reaches and swallows. Jiro, Tsu, and Uraraka caught in no time flat. They get past Pixie-Bob's Earthflow which was their only way to contain the copy storm. But once it got up and over, it could now be expanded to the fullest with no Dabi fire or earth walls stopping it even if it's happening in OTHER places too. Now squashing these heroes is harder than it looks because you can only have so many people on top of you in this situation before their weight is placed on something else rather than the person beneath them, and I don't think the Twice clones breathe oxygen with how they disappear so there might be more air in this area now with Dabi gone easier. That and these characters survive ENORMOUS explosions with little effort, and have crazy durability feats. So there's still hope as overwhelming as all of this is.
Uraraka sees Toga looking at the Dabi field and knows it has to be her with all the other duplicates trying to trample the heroes. Which...doesn't match. So her head is completely elsewhere. Uraraka starts actually putting together Toga's mindset knowing how she has thought about affection all this time must be at a genuine shock it's not what she originally thought with her love of Twice not being enough. Uraraka has given genuine thought to Toga's thought process and how events would make her feel based on what she knows about her. The more she sees, the more she knows it's not just a giant ball of crazy and there is emotional logic.
Hate and love don't mix. And obsession confuses. Uraraka wants to see what is actually underneath all of this. And with that want, comes empathy. Uraraka is evolving HER emotional understanding as well, and is using more strategies to empathize. Even under high stress, even with the threat of death repeating, even with her friends in danger it's not that she doesn't ignore the danger of her friends, she just doesn't forget ANY of the things she wants. There's a lot of people in pain, but that doesn't bar Toga from that list. And solving HER pain is the best way out. Uraraka is getting more and more advanced with her empath strategies.
More and more of Toga's past comes out. One can assume she didn't get help or was beyond it. But they DID get her help. The HELP was the messed up one. Saying something is wrong and assuming everyone knows it is not the same as explaining WHY something is wrong. She is drawn to use her quirk because of her affection, and they just say let's purge this side of who you are. Not to cope, not how to apply, just get rid of it. Seems simple considering what she's drawn to but your quirk and your personality are connected. So it's just such a stupid thing to ask of this little girl who has no comprehension of it all. It's true her desire for blood and her desire for affection are not ENTIRELY one to one. (how can she receive love if everyone she loves dies when she displays?) But it's literally telling her not to love by telling her this. And it's all she wants. And there are many unique displays of love but they also find their uses for SOMEONE. There's compromise with application. She isn't WRONG for wanting love, she literally can't receive. It's a vicious cycle that she can't escape.
It's getting harder and harder to see Himiko Toga because she is devoting harder and harder to her hatred. To confuse the heroes as she was confused. Taking on their many forms and stepping further from what she wants in the process. Teamwork is harder, but the further and further she goes, she has less and less. Toga has no one. She has no one to turn to, and no part of herself shows through this hatred. And even with Uraraka trying to be there for her, she doesn't even believe it. Her Reinfield's syndrome is blocking us from seeing genuine abandonment. And Uraraka gets stabbed.
Toga needs no identification for herself, she knows what she wants and who she wants to be. She doesn't need a new villain name because she is who she is and won't hide. The other villains changed their names because they evolved into something new. And in a way depending on their paths it hides who they were. Who they are is all that matters and it locks in the time they want to be seen as. Shigaraki respects that but also doesn't need it for himself. He has been a constant. (Even though Tenko is gone so it still applies. He and AFO worked through that identification. Part of why Shigaraki has such a strong sense of self in fact. Which keeps him alive and in command within AFS for now.) For Toga they accept her constant. You want love and you want blood. Seek it out and you be you. No pity, no shame, just go forward and you can stick with us as you look. And now that the heroes are here, they are taking everything away from her. So she is trying to maintain herself and what she has/had. And so long as she is a constant, she can't be taken away from who she is. So then the question is simply this for Uraraka. Who are you? Tell me.
This rampage gets more and more terrifying as with every passing second, the doubling doubles in speed. You can see her from miles away and we see so many that literally can't defend themselves from her. Hawks only has his blade and has to defend Tokoyami. Iida has burst engines and can't stand up after his double turbo. And the Todoroki's gave everything to just be together. They put everything that they are on the line and are now all lying in heaps. We've seen them from top down and know their passions well. And the giant swarm of Toga is essentially saying, "What about me?"
Uraraka knows it's her own personal drive that keeps her here for Toga. She wants people to smile. And she couldn't understand Toga's happiness. Her obsession. Who she is. But does that mean that she can't exist? Does that mean she can't be happy? Is there a way for her problems to be resolved too or is there no way to coexist? You being so happy when you rarely get to be is still a good thing. So how do we meet in the middle? She wants EVERYONE'S problems to float away. And with that, we FINALLY get something I was prepared for. Uraraka's quirk evolution. Her weight limit is non-existent as she keeps going in one direction. So she doesn't get her vertigo recoil, and she refuses to harm and spin everything out when she has the ability to ground everything and turn everything upside-down as well. She can control gravity, but she just wants to take the weight off of EVERYONE. Just like Shigaraki's 5 finger touch, she can spread, and she creates an atmosphere where things work on HER rules. And she has the full understanding to make it so. (still doesn't take away the many other gravity breaking rules she has and demonstrates, she laughs at physics) And to float away Toga's problems? She offers her blood. Telling her you need love too. You need happiness too. Here's mine. I love my parents and wanted them to live better. I love people and want them safe. I love Izuku Midoriya the boy who showed me selflessness and passion to another level. And you need love, so I'll love you too. So you can have yourself and your peace for yourself.
Toga sees it at last, and tells her what she thinks. How people wouldn't let her love. How she couldn't smile. And while the league gets brought down, Uraraka says but I'm still here. I see your smile. I see your love. And its still beautiful like everyone else's. You're human. And because you have so much, that makes your love even more beautiful. And Toga let's go of her hate, and she can finally start healing from the pain of losing Jin...as the power vanishes at last. What an outstanding episode. It is SO great.
Say that to the serial killers and rapists out there who uses sh’t like “it’s my personality, I can’t change” to excuse them of their crimes. Nah bro, Toga should have been institutionalized from age 3
Sheera always has the most empathetic reasonable analysis and Roshi always follows up with “yeah but you gotta kill em”
Out of line he was..
But still correct he be.
If you think about it, Toga‘s situation is a bit similar to Shinso‘s. They were both always told that their quirks are something villainous; literal parts of their being that make them "bad people" by default in many people‘s eyes.
The difference is: Toga was pressured to "be normal", while Shinso could just not use his quirk to appear "normal". The pressure eventually made Toga snap and made her the monster everyone always saw her as.
The things Toga has done are unforgivable, but if all it takes to save potential future victims - and maybe even start to heal her broken psyche - is a compliment, why not at least try?
As a parent, how do you even begin to digest the fact that your kid goes around killing small animals and sucking other kids blood? You say some nice things but in reality, you’d avoid a kid like that like the plague. Shinso’s quirk looks villainous but the kid himself is sane, he doesn’t go around manipulating people.
Toga acts on it which is the entire problem, this isn’t some introvert trying to hide a quirk, this is a kid going around cutting people to suck their blood then says she loves them. How do you even start?
Toga is such an amazing character and has an equally justifiable reason to become a villain as dabi or as shigaraki and I feel like way too many people don't understand that. She's a character thatd relate to real world disablities, real world sexualities, everything under that umbrella. She was born into the world with certain thoughts she thought it was normal, as someone with a disablity having a learning defect and thinking thats normal, or someone whos a guy that likes another guy, they don't know why they think the way they do, but they do. Then imagine while these people were being raised they realized others didn't think nor feel the way they do. What a good parent would do they would teach them reasons why they're different but also show them how they still are equally as lovable as the next guy, toga's parents didn't do that and now this is where she ended up. It's truly a sad story that many overlook.
You’re conflating too many things, love ain’t wrong. This is like a gay dude starts grooming little boys because they “can’t help themselves, they like who they like” and other such nonsense. This is an unhinged chick with psychopathic tendencies, no one is ever justified in being a villain
Love Can Uplift Anyone
- Ochaco Uraraka / Uravity (voiced by Ayane Sakura who also voices Reiko / Luci Christian who also voices Recovery Girl) age 16, birthday Dec. 27th, birthplace Mie prefecture, blood type B, height 156 cm / 5'1½", Quirk Zero Gravity, originally she was going to be named Yu Takeyama whose hero name was Mt. Lady with a Gigantification Quirk but changed that because Horikoshi thought it would be too troublesome for a main character, on her profile it says things like her bob hair & dialect are parts of her schoolgirl charm, her favorite thing is the starry sky, she loves Japanese food especially mochi, Horikoshi describes Ochaco as "honest" & is proud of the name he came up for her.
- Himiko Toga (voiced by Misato Fukuken / Leah Clark) age 17, birthday August 7th, height 157 cm / 5’2”, Quirk Transform (which was maybe foreshadowed when she said she wanted to be Stain), she likes blood & pomegranates, in concept art she was depicted more of an archetypal yandere with a different hair style & that she would have been bisexual or pansexual, & Horikoshi says that she is hardest to illustrate of out all the female characters
Toga is one of those characters in mha which does have amazing complexity under the service.
The build-up for this last episode is going to be CRAZY! Well people it's been a wild ride!
Everyone Blue Lock Season 2 First Episode is Out😭🔥🙏🏽
“These feelings are genuine…”
Nobody is turning sides here. Lady Nagant was a former hero, and turned sides because she saw that being a hero is not all rainbows and sunshine, and she got manipulated by AFO. Gentle Criminal was more of a prankster than a actual criminal and he just got demotivated by people, because he doesn't have a flashy strong quirk, but got remotivated by Deku. So there's no one, who was an actual villain/criminal who switched sides
Nah someone gotta put Deku's dad on child support aint no way he got two clones running around
3:43 I was honestly only waiting for this video for this moment. Didn't disappoint.
Uraraka gained the power to lift the plot
Sheera’s shirt with the Rowdyruffboyz is tough 😤
Most heroes will choose to kill Toga, but Ochaco chooses forgiveness and wants to understand Toga! Very wholesome episode.
I love Sheri’s proud mom vibe but she does have a point. Himiko was still trying to understand the world even as her parents were beating the stuffing out of her for things she couldn’t help or even begin to comprehend about herself. The bar was SO low for her to become a good member of society
Toga is another example of people feeling shackled by the perception of their quirks. We’ve seen multiple examples that the quirk you are born with affects the way you are perceived in society. Shinso grew up with people telling him that he was a villain because of his villainous quirk. Shoji and Spinner were marginalized because of their heteromorph quirks. Bakugo was led to believe that he was the most special because of his powerful and flashy quirk. To him everyone else was an extra (similar to how All For One views people). The Todoroki family was destroyed because of Endeavor’s obsession with creating a “masterpiece” with the perfect quirk.
Now, we see Toga felt like she had to wear a mask to repress herself because her normal self wouldn’t fit in with society. Instead of people helping her deal with her urges and finding a healthier outlet, she was told to just bottle everything up. Naturally, this didn’t help at all and only made the problem worse.
I liked the symbolism after Ochaco’s quirk awakening where she said that she wanted to touch the pain inside of Toga’s heart. Given the nature of her quirk, Ochaco is saying that she wants to take all of that pain inside of Toga and make it “weightless” so that Toga doesn’t have to feel weighed down by societal expectation. That moment was a nice touch to end on.
Toga's no Himiko's power has another benefit that if used with other quirks would made her a wonderful rescue hero.
Won't give ti away but will be revealed I'm sure.
The sad thing about Toga is that she was born that way and instead of teaching her ways to love that aren't harmful they just basically told her she wasn't allowed to love at all (because clearly her quirk was strongly based on love; including the blood drinking). Like imagine being told your entire life that you just aren't allowed to love at all. And it's clear she would've been happy to live as a good member of society if anyone taught her how; but nobody did. They just didn't want her to be their problem.
Yeah but her love involved killing animals and sucking kids blood. How do you even begin to unpack that? That’s years of extensive therapy
@@Anon-qp3ktshe didn’t kill the animals though? It was already dead and she found it. She also wasn’t like biting kids or stabbing them to suck their blood, she was doing the equivalent of a dog licking a wound or a parent kissing wherever their kid got hurt
@@Anon-qp3kt She never killed anyone until she snapped (which happened only a year before the events of this episode, though I'd have to double check). Very clearly she felt the exact same feelings of love as anyone else, but they would manifest most strongly in situations involving blood. And the next episode shows it, but there are, in fact, ways for her to love in a healthy way, but literally nobody ever gave her the chance until Uraraka.
Toga was a damn epic character holy molly ...
She is a girl that loves blood, but never did bad to anyone and was judged cause that ...
I didn't get the message and theme when I saw this chapter in manga. But this episode got me completely mind-blowing. Now I can understand Toga Himiko's character much more deeper.
A really important thing about her quirk and it's mentioned only one time. Quirks are the one who affect your personality, not otherwise, so its bc her quirk the fact that she has that need to suck blood. So yeh, if you really go deep on that, its f up what happen to her, as a child with that kind of quirk how can you really see suck the blood of something or someone you like/love as something bad
Anyone notice they killed thousands of people in the town. They are responsible for thousands of murders.😂 this girl Gotta go😂
MHA S7 EP20: BATTLE OF THE SEIYUUS - (QUIRK: UNLIMITED VOICE OVERS)
epic episode, ochaco god, poor toga the pain she feel, men you can feel her emotion in her voices, really good job seiyuus, I had a lump in my throat for almost the entire episode
Hot take: I felt more emotional with this than the Todoroki family
This was one of the best moments in the series hands down.
this was such an incredible episode that i almost cried 💀🙏 ALSO WHY TF DID IT TAKE ME THIS DAMN LONG TO REALIZE VIVY WAS IN THE INTRO 😭
I like that sherra see things in a lil bit more detail yes they killed people but nobody’s born a murder that’s why these new gen hero’s are better because they are actually focusing on the root of the problem so they can prevent it going further
This man Twice wasn’t even smoking the cigarette, he was just holding it in his move, since his mask was on lol 😂
Man this had me crying so hard.
episode had me bawling 🥲
Quirks are part of humans and can also lead to changes in a person once manifested. Just like with heteromorphs. That's why Toga thought it's normal to like blood giving her quirk that's a part of her. All Toga wanted was a world where she could be herself, where others wouldn't judge her. The parents are guilty for trying to "normalize" her and not letting her be herself. Toga is not to be blamed for their evils
Roshi really said time for primary lotus y'all are terrible🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
3:45 the scream lmao😂😂😂
10:44Lupa” BOINK” 😂
bones locking tf in you love to see it
An episode about the side characters best one I’ve seen emotional through out 10/10
From the perspective of it not being the same cause the villains do crime, so do the heroes lol. They just are in power so they get special treatment and can cover it up. I.E Endeavor, Hawks, the council and the head of that council that Re-destro killed, the people that made Nagant kill many people that didn't even commit a crime, and so on. It ain't black and white lol
Another fire episode🔥 This season is burning hotter than Dabi flames.
get ready cause the irons of irons gonna appear next episode ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I knew you guys would hate this episode. You may not be criminals but you do nothing for life or save anything. And thank god you and those similar don’t have any superpowers because we’d all be dead or drowning if that was the case. I pray your kids are normal for their sake. Because until you grow and see the truth of the matter of life, then all that’s awaiting them is strife and the same pain Toga went through if you’re their folks.
A. I understand Toga *SO* much, so much so to the point of suicidalnwss. To be born misinformed, different, and ultimately alone, despite the fact that what makes you different doesn’t torture or hurt anyone or force yourself on anyone. Refusing to forsake who you are just to fit in but also drowning yourself n the thought that you’re alone. So what else is there to do but live as yourself until you die, even though doing so willl turn the “normal” and “realistic” against you? What else is there to do besides stand, cry, rage, and push even if it means death? Subjugation would be a living h-l, and surviving just to be alive (both metaphorically and literally is *never* worth it. That suffocation loneliness is unbearable, and what normal will never understand or try to.
That’s why Deku and Uraraka are the real Heroes.Better than those around them, especially Hawks (Minus Almight. He’s the Goat in his own right). Because laws and status be d-ned, if the villain is just some who’s hurting then they need to be *SAVED* not put down. Because there *IS* a way to come back, despite all that’s done; it’s just REALLY *hard* , a sheer wall to scale. Because they’re villains but they aren’t evil. Because otherwise what hope is there for any of us? To be saved, to know there are people who care as well. That good truly is mighty. That life IS worth living in.
B. That scene where they’re kids isn’t them “talking like children” it’s their inner truths. Our inner selves. Our shells may morph into “adults” but in truth we are all very much children. Because few of us are wise, and only the wise are truly considered older (myself not included). From how we treat eachother, what we feel, how we react, and how we laugh, at our core we *are ALL* children (No ditty (d-n him and those like him ruining moments/phrase’s like this 🤦🏾♂️)). But that’s barely even seen or acknowledged. And like all abandoned and unseen children we suffer alone.
So we must do our best to see eachother, to understand and let ourselves be understood. Because there truly is no other way forward. Not one they won’t lead to needless suffering and more of the same villain.
C. There’s a place for anti-heroes to slay the monsters, but Heroes are greater because they’re not only so strong and determined that they don’t have to kill, but because they truly wish to save lives of *people* not civilians. Because at their core, and in truth at all our cores, we know that we save the villains because it’s right not just because it’s a norm or say-so, but because there’s is *cosmic* truth in morals and ethics as a whole on life in general.
Heroes save the souls of villains so that there’s won’t be another villain. So that if another person born sees the villain who’s the only one who can understand is saved AND comes back despite the crimes they did, then they’ll have hope and a sign that they don’t have to give up and become villains too. They don’t have to give up on their world and die on their feet as they tried to do.
And that’s why ultimately I choose and believe in the harder path. The hero path. No matter what the world or others may say. Because it’s a path worth fighting for. MLK saw it. Barack Sees it. And I know so many people and leaders who helped things get to where they are today where we majority are together saw it.
The “weak” peaceful path lead us to here where chains are abhorred. Never forget that. *Especially* as black people, *NEVER* forget that.
Bro. They didn't even hate the episode they enjoyed it and said it was fire. It's not that serious to type all this or to say stuff about their kids. It's crazy you said how "they do nothing for life or save anything" WE DONT KNOW THEM BRO. it aint this deep man
Nobody cares bud
@@phantaminum6133 Then I guess my name is Nobody. Because I care. And always will.
If what you say is true, and I know for a fact it’s not, and nobody alive anywhere in the 8 billion+ people are trying anymore or caring anymore or want to hear or learn anymore,
Then I will gladly become nobody.
And for every last nihilist and narcissist such as yourself’s sake, you better pray no one becomes nobody. Because
Nobody cares.
Nobody will be there.
Nobody has power.
Nobody is good.
Nobody can make miracles happen.
Nobody is stronger than “me.”
Nobody wants to help.
Nobody can do the impossible.
Nobody sees you/me.
Nobody knows you/me.
Nobody gives a d-n.
Nobody has hope.
Nobody can make things better.
Nobody is better than anybody.
Nobody will be there.
Nobody can save you.
Nobody, can do, *anything*
It is insane no trained adult had an answer for Toga’s quirk and behavior.
Rare moment where the anime 100% got the scene better.
The music and emotion was so good
Roshi is savage: "I feel you, but I've got to kill you".
Shera is too smart for this group lmao
4:32 NINTENDO LAWSUIT INCOMING!
Toga is mvp she got combos off and she took zero damage, that never happens but ay here we are 👏
Normally I laugh at how unhinged Roshi is with wanting to take people out but I'm with him on this one. Ochaco is a nice person but if the chance early on to kill Toga had came and I was a hero, I would have taken her out. Gran Torino himself said sometimes you have to kill someone to save them. Toga is never getting out of prison, EVER lol. Beautiful episode but she's done too much lol
Man Deku is one lucky dude having two baddies liking him
ew… that’s what you got from all of this?
@ra2x_ brutal 😭
@@ra2x_tell em 🙏🏼
@@ra2x_word big bird, keep spitting 🔥
Ik we all talking about mha in here but I can’t wait to see Yall react to blue loc s2 🔥🔥
Society didn't understand, so she became a monster.
Here you can see how people saw her and how she started to see herself that way too, she had such a confused and painful look when she saw that Uraraka wasn't afraid of her and was willing to give her blood to listen and understand toga😭 well that's what I interpreted 9:10