It irritates me as to how D&D has Gorgons - but it’s a big metal bull. Edit: the myth about Medusa being a rape victim was written down after the version where she was born a monster was. I forget who wrote it, but it was written by an author with quite the anti-authoritarian bent. Myths don’t really have original versions, but it should be brought up that the rape version was fabricated.
In the victim version, she is only a victim, not even a character. Before that caught on, her head was carved into the doorways of women's shelters. She was a defender of those in need and a seeker of vengeance.
"The African Gorgon or Catoblepas as it is also known, is a black bodied beast that has the head of a pig, pink blood-shot eyes and a thin scrawny neck. Due to its thin neck and oversized head, the Catoblepas had to keep its gaze to the ground and could not lift its head. However, if anyone caught its gaze, they would die immediately. The Catoblepas lived in the highlands of Ethiopia and in southern Egypt. It was said to have a foul breath which was caused by its strange diet of poisonous plants. The name comes from the Greek word Catoblepas which means ‘"that which looks downward’." No Idea why it's a bull.
Even in the versions where she wasn't born a monster she wasn't a rape victim. Only in Ovid's version is she a rape victim. The non-Ovid version of the story she slept with Poseidon willingly in spite of the vows she made to Athena, her patron goddess, to remain a virgin. That was why she was cursed. Not because she was screwed over by the gods, but because of her own oath breaking.
I have liked and commented! I continue to serve the petrifying dungeoncast! Medusas hm? It's been awhile since I learned of these creatures. They are of little consequence to me as long as they stay hidden in their holes and do not rear their ugly faces. I have far more present threats to deal with. After the failed crusade I am healing nicely at least, I'll be in good enough condition to continue rooting out evil soon. Still though I suppose it would be wise to keep an eye on these creatures. For if they make a move against the good people of these lands I'll have to act, despite these injuries. Damn that yeenoghu. For now though I should continue my rest... No short rest this week. First of all I want to say I'm so glad you brought up gorgons being a different monsters because I was already planning to mention them myself. I don't quite get why they didn't just call medusas gorgons, Would have made more sense to me but eh whatever. Secondly thank you for going over medusas origin. The victim blaming for the rape is so messed up. Even if (although you didn't go over it) medusa was vain and arrogant before hand. Oh well that's just the Greek gods being the Greek gods, arrogant and spiteful. unlike the lord of knowledge who's out here dropping stories from mythology like a boss! Anywho. My addiction is once more satisfied. Thanks for another episode guys. Anyone who reads this have a good day. :)
It's Medusas. you only pluralize something with an i in greek or latin if the singular ends in a vowel followed by an s (octopus, octopi; alumnus, alumni) and if the singular ends in a consonant followed by s it changes into es (cyclops, cyclopes). if the singular was Medus then it would be medusi but the creature would also be male.
The reason Athena hated her was because of her and Poseidon, Athena’s temple was desecrated, and Athena already really hated Poseidon. The way I see it, it was Athena saying “you dirty my temple, I’m gunna ruin your new favourite toy”
In the 1194-bc gorgon version have the petrifying glazes like a ray and talent like claws fingers. Also theirs male the elder gorgon, primal gorgon and nanas. Also said the elder gorgon is the father of all gorgon and born from his death.
Bards and minstrels of TH-cam, give your unseen servant a mirror from your disguise kit. Have that bad boy patrol around the lair of the Medusa, and you just might get a few lucky petrifications! - sage advice from Fifty-Copper, Drow Bard (viscous mockery diss track rapper)
It should be noted that only in Ovid's telling of the myth is medusa raped. In earlier versions, for example Hesiod, her intercourse with Poseidon was consensual. However she was a priestess of Athena, and did the deed inside Athena's temple. Hence why she was cursed. And I prefer the version where Medusa had her own agency in that encounter (or encounters. Hesiod seems to imply multiple sexual encounters between her and Poseidon. One of which was in a field of flowers). And it makes more sense why she was punished. Even by Greco-Roman standards rape victims were not seen as being at fault, and were not punished for it.
Having a bad week *See's a new upload from u guys* Yes my days getting a little better *It's about medusa* Great it got worse (Still a great video though)
Hello. I believe the reason why the greek gods hated medusa was because she was, in truth, a Libian deity, one of which aspects was culturally appropriated by the minoians, and later the greeks. Basically, Athena and her mother (the lady who zeus ate/absorbed into himself) were, at some level, aspects of this elder goddess Medusa. The mythos rationalize the change in the religion by having Athena basically first "make" Medusa, while in truth she was her younger aspect, then have a guy go kill her, thus removing her living existence, and the finally to have her head be given to her, so to still keep that aspect of herself as a weapon unto her shield.
Actually in the original version of the mess medusa purposely slept with Poseidon inside the temple of Athena which gives her every right to be pissed because she’s fucking desecrating the temple despite being one of the priests as they are with her goddesses rival
23:45 There are actually male medusae in 5e! There's one featured prominently in an adventure module Spoiler down below! Marlos Urnrayle, featured in Princes of the Apocalypse leads the elemental earth cult! He's pretty rad, but wasn't born a medusa so there's that?
The way I do healing by npc characters is, not all of them are high level, maybe a guy learned this one spell, it’s all he can do but it expensive to be done.
Actually the myth of Medusa’s curse is not fully accurate. One there’s two stories, one where she’s raped and another where she seduces Poseidon into the temple of Athena, which is the original one which is why Athenas so pissed. After a Greek poet who’s writings we have a lot of rewrote a lot of Greek myths making the gods much more petty and evil and the mortals much more victims, even when it pulls them out of characterization. Which with Medusa it did pull Athena out of her normal character.
Imagine the prankster or friendly dragon's frightful presence being a playful scare. The frightened creatures don't feel dread and fright, rather they feel a thrill. Like in tag or some shit when someone gets close to you
As of 5e male and female Medusa’s are the same just one is female the other male an example of this is season 2 of 5e “Princes of the apocalypse” and yes they are cursed for vanity and power🐍🐍💯
Medusa hype! Dungeoncast has officially done my favourite three things in DND Hags, Aasimar and Medusa.
It irritates me as to how D&D has Gorgons - but it’s a big metal bull.
Edit: the myth about Medusa being a rape victim was written down after the version where she was born a monster was. I forget who wrote it, but it was written by an author with quite the anti-authoritarian bent. Myths don’t really have original versions, but it should be brought up that the rape version was fabricated.
I know you know that I really like greek mythology
In the victim version, she is only a victim, not even a character. Before that caught on, her head was carved into the doorways of women's shelters. She was a defender of those in need and a seeker of vengeance.
"The African Gorgon or Catoblepas as it is also known, is a black bodied beast that has the head of a pig, pink blood-shot eyes and a thin scrawny neck. Due to its thin neck and oversized head, the Catoblepas had to keep its gaze to the ground and could not lift its head. However, if anyone caught its gaze, they would die immediately. The Catoblepas lived in the highlands of Ethiopia and in southern Egypt. It was said to have a foul breath which was caused by its strange diet of poisonous plants. The name comes from the Greek word Catoblepas which means ‘"that which looks downward’."
No Idea why it's a bull.
Even in the versions where she wasn't born a monster she wasn't a rape victim. Only in Ovid's version is she a rape victim. The non-Ovid version of the story she slept with Poseidon willingly in spite of the vows she made to Athena, her patron goddess, to remain a virgin. That was why she was cursed. Not because she was screwed over by the gods, but because of her own oath breaking.
I guess Im kinda off topic but does anybody know a good place to stream newly released series online?
There's a difference between poison and venom. Venom is injected while poison is ingested.
Technically there is only one Medusa. At least in Greek mythology.
edit: and I am glad that you've mentioned it
what were the other Gorgon's names??
@@rngmstrdan Stheno and Euryale
@@deirakos I'm pretty sure there's just two Euryales and a Medusa.
@@Tomatowormprinceno, it is Euryale, Stheno, and Medusa who make up the Gorgons
@@KJShell I know it was just a FateGo joke
I have liked and commented! I continue to serve the petrifying dungeoncast!
Medusas hm? It's been awhile since I learned of these creatures. They are of little consequence to me as long as they stay hidden in their holes and do not rear their ugly faces. I have far more present threats to deal with. After the failed crusade I am healing nicely at least, I'll be in good enough condition to continue rooting out evil soon. Still though I suppose it would be wise to keep an eye on these creatures. For if they make a move against the good people of these lands I'll have to act, despite these injuries. Damn that yeenoghu. For now though I should continue my rest...
No short rest this week.
First of all I want to say I'm so glad you brought up gorgons being a different monsters because I was already planning to mention them myself. I don't quite get why they didn't just call medusas gorgons, Would have made more sense to me but eh whatever.
Secondly thank you for going over medusas origin. The victim blaming for the rape is so messed up. Even if (although you didn't go over it) medusa was vain and arrogant before hand. Oh well that's just the Greek gods being the Greek gods, arrogant and spiteful. unlike the lord of knowledge who's out here dropping stories from mythology like a boss!
Anywho. My addiction is once more satisfied. Thanks for another episode guys.
Anyone who reads this have a good day. :)
It's Medusas. you only pluralize something with an i in greek or latin if the singular ends in a vowel followed by an s (octopus, octopi; alumnus, alumni) and if the singular ends in a consonant followed by s it changes into es (cyclops, cyclopes). if the singular was Medus then it would be medusi but the creature would also be male.
Loved this video! Loved the variety of resources you took from and the depths you went into. I love for this shit! ❤️😂
The reason Athena hated her was because of her and Poseidon, Athena’s temple was desecrated, and Athena already really hated Poseidon. The way I see it, it was Athena saying “you dirty my temple, I’m gunna ruin your new favourite toy”
I could do the "I am always hard joke", but lets be honest, as a barbarian I am always raging
ah, i've been waiting for this one. ready to make some rocking puns
Ah, Eye didn't gaze upon the possibility of seeing you slithering around again
Let the puns commence, once again!
Seeing this pun stopped me in my tracks. petrified me even.
It really made my heart soar that they included the original Greek medusa.
Some might say it made me rock hard?
These horrible puns are making me realise I take my life for granite.
@@DragonGunzDorian I'm glad they're helping you reflect on your life
Great show
In the 1194-bc gorgon version have the petrifying glazes like a ray and talent like claws fingers. Also theirs male the elder gorgon, primal gorgon and nanas. Also said the elder gorgon is the father of all gorgon and born from his death.
Nice Tribe reference
Bards and minstrels of TH-cam, give your unseen servant a mirror from your disguise kit. Have that bad boy patrol around the lair of the Medusa, and you just might get a few lucky petrifications! - sage advice from Fifty-Copper, Drow Bard (viscous mockery diss track rapper)
It should be noted that only in Ovid's telling of the myth is medusa raped. In earlier versions, for example Hesiod, her intercourse with Poseidon was consensual. However she was a priestess of Athena, and did the deed inside Athena's temple. Hence why she was cursed.
And I prefer the version where Medusa had her own agency in that encounter (or encounters. Hesiod seems to imply multiple sexual encounters between her and Poseidon. One of which was in a field of flowers). And it makes more sense why she was punished. Even by Greco-Roman standards rape victims were not seen as being at fault, and were not punished for it.
Having a bad week
*See's a new upload from u guys*
Yes my days getting a little better
*It's about medusa*
Great it got worse
(Still a great video though)
Hello. I believe the reason why the greek gods hated medusa was because she was, in truth, a Libian deity, one of which aspects was culturally appropriated by the minoians, and later the greeks. Basically, Athena and her mother (the lady who zeus ate/absorbed into himself) were, at some level, aspects of this elder goddess Medusa. The mythos rationalize the change in the religion by having Athena basically first "make" Medusa, while in truth she was her younger aspect, then have a guy go kill her, thus removing her living existence, and the finally to have her head be given to her, so to still keep that aspect of herself as a weapon unto her shield.
How did Brian know I was driving? 😍😍
MANDUSA FTW!
Actually in the original version of the mess medusa purposely slept with Poseidon inside the temple of Athena which gives her every right to be pissed because she’s fucking desecrating the temple despite being one of the priests as they are with her goddesses rival
23:45 There are actually male medusae in 5e! There's one featured prominently in an adventure module
Spoiler down below!
Marlos Urnrayle, featured in Princes of the Apocalypse leads the elemental earth cult! He's pretty rad, but wasn't born a medusa so there's that?
Terrifying more that 1 mutdsa gonna use like 5 of them when my party reaches level 10
The way I do healing by npc characters is, not all of them are high level, maybe a guy learned this one spell, it’s all he can do but it expensive to be done.
🔥🖤🔥
I'm more of a fan of using Medudesa for male Medusae
Actually the myth of Medusa’s curse is not fully accurate. One there’s two stories, one where she’s raped and another where she seduces Poseidon into the temple of Athena, which is the original one which is why Athenas so pissed. After a Greek poet who’s writings we have a lot of rewrote a lot of Greek myths making the gods much more petty and evil and the mortals much more victims, even when it pulls them out of characterization. Which with Medusa it did pull Athena out of her normal character.
Maybe it's spamming the ability in combat?
Imagine the prankster or friendly dragon's frightful presence being a playful scare. The frightened creatures don't feel dread and fright, rather they feel a thrill. Like in tag or some shit when someone gets close to you
In sec edit male dusus had stone to flesh and ate the victims of there mates.
Could you guys, like, not be metal for once? Even Flumphs are metal. You guys need to chill
*JK!* Keep it metal!
As of 5e male and female Medusa’s are the same just one is female the other male an example of this is season 2 of 5e “Princes of the apocalypse” and yes they are cursed for vanity and power🐍🐍💯
An alternate reading of the Athena thing is that she empowered Medusa to fend off Poseidon with her gaze and snake powers
Is their male medusas?And also can you play as a Medusa? This comment was before you said they were males