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hey, I'll copy my comment from below: I started with this at level 41: tbc.wowhead.com/talent-calc/shaman/5202310520001--05005001 You can also choose to get imp gw instead of going into the resto tree. With imp gw you can save yourself from potential wipes when you get dazed or fall down the ledge, but either your killtime increases or you have to use more mana potions

at lvl 41 it is all about "I do it because I can". At later levels you can do a run in under 15 minutes, which is at least on par with questing. It was actually way faster than questing during prepatch because of all the ganking

He's putting on "of defense" items to reduce the chance of criticals. Only criticals from behind daze/dismount you.

we could do it the same way we do ZG yes, but i don't know if it will be viable. Because of aoe cap our totems will do almost no damage

​@@fjaman5243not just that eventually the magma totem would get threat and no longer work unless you just kept doing fire nova.

i never tried because i think the range is quite small. if you can get it off might be worth it. also the trinket from ramstein or sunken temple

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no, he casts shaddowbolts

yeah I would not recommend it. You can try to kill him afterwards if you really need the staff, but I would just level up and get something better instead

that means you haven't damaged them with a grenade or dynamite before. They can resist the dynamite, and if you don't have enough threat on them they will kill the totems

what race are you playing? for male troll, draenei and tauren you have to be in ghost wolf because the characters are too big. It also depends on how the mobs are positioned, you have to be in a spot where the mobs can't see you through the rock

@@fjaman5243 Dranail f-male did goust wolf still nothing will try again at lvl 44 now

yes absolutely, without any kind of spammable explosive it takes way too long :/

yeah i was doing the 9 pack, during the 11 pack you have to figure out how to kill the cubs before they run away and pull more mobs. The only reliable way I have found is to keep them slowed, but when you have 3+ cubs running in different directions at the same time it becomes really difficult You can instead pull a few panther packs if you time the pathing of the berserkers correctly

@@fjaman5243 ive done 1700+ zg as a mage, i think but am not sure yet, as long u keep dmg on cubs on bridge rither with shock bolt or totem you might be just fine. As mage atleast before prepatch it was 3 max rank blizz to kill m without issues.. if i manage 11 pack on shammy ill put it on yt and let you know :D very inspiring vid tho

@@Pidbullz sounds good, hope you find a way!

yes!

Yes, I was using mostly random int/spirit gear from the AH. For the graveyard run you want all mail gear with stamina and +defense. The shield from SM is fantastic

Thanks :D

How do you deal with the witch doctor that potentially can spawn next to the boss?

@@jonlarsson8761 not sure what you mean, i have never seen a mob spawn next to the boss on any of my characters.

@@jonlarsson8761 witch doctors dont heal the undead graveyard trolls just kill, reset and go again

Do you mind linking the talents you used? I’m going to attempt this on my shaman tomorrow, might start at level 43 though

@@undacuvabrotha I started with this at level 41: tbc.wowhead.com/talent-calc/shaman/5202310520001--05005001 You can also choose to get imp gw instead of going into the resto tree. With imp gw you can save yourself from potential wipes when you get dazed or fall down the ledge, but either your killtime increases or you have to use more mana potions

at 41 you want Call of Flame, Improved Fire Nova Totem and Elemental Fury in the ele tree. For the other points, you can decide: either get Totemic Focus in resto tree to save on mana potions, or go Improved Ghost Wolf. With imp ghost wolf you can safe yourself from wipes on the run to the gy or when you get hit and dazed during the kill phase. without gw it is much much harder to recover. At 42 and 43 you want Storm Reach for the longer range to pull all mobs from up on the ledge. Keep in mind that you will need explosives. I am currently doing sub 15 min runs on my draenei with dense dynamite, anything less than that will give you longer runs

@@fjaman5243 Awesome thanks. Also is the gold decent? like how much will I lose out on doing this instead of questing?

@@yosh8286 i haven't counted it exactly but from 41-47 i made about 100g so far (not including the cost for the dynamite)

@@fjaman5243 Ok awsome mostly wanted to know if it covers the cost of dynamite. Thanks!

@@fjaman5243 you don’t need engi for dense dynamite?

I believe so, yes. I haven't tested the XP, but if you don't tag the mobs they will always aggro your magma totem

I don't know for sure. If you are well prepared with enchanted weapons you might be equally fast or even faster questing. It also depends on how full your server is (do you have to wait for quest items to respawn) and if it is an active pvp server where you get ganked a lot

It depends on how quickly you do it. Right now I get a level roughly every 1 to 1.5 hours. Currently level 49

i would guess around 50. you can check out how much xp you will be getting at that level here: wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Formulas:XP_To_Level#Experience_to_Level_by_Level_.28Pre-_Wrath.29 wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Formulas:Mob_XP

As a Mage you stay here till 54. Maybe the same for Shaman.

comment but no like? okay...

@@fjaman5243 I got you bro

agreed

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