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I appreciate yall touching on the internal responsibility aspect because for those who identify with codependence and the desire to save everyone, this helps shift some of that weight, like nahhh you gotta want it too King or Queen you gotta make that connection and decision within yourself 💯

Yooo I been thinking the same thing! That smoking before work wave 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️ I keep seeing it now it’s wild to me because when I used to smoke my ass was sleepy so idk about all that I need to be aware at work present alert

It’s not just an individual recovery it’s a social recovery 🙉

That’s so true never thought of it that way (kids not needing as much stimulation while alone vs adults- whew!) that’s the one

“When someone is hooked on any type of drug they do not want to be present in their present reality “ 💯

Well said 👏🏽

Interview was great the convo and the background music brought a great vibe 💯🔥🔥

Dope interview 🔥🔥🔥

this convo was so bad on both sides & I'm an anti natalist.

GREAT JOB PIECE OF MIND!!!

Those eyes, smile and beautiful face, omg ❤

This guy think that Obama is a good guy ?

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Let's get it!

The ‘argument’ that "the human species has to go on, no matter what" really gets on my nerves and under my skin. I mean who will slave away their lives pointlessly for the 1% ? Who will fill the cemeteries up and create the need to build more cemeteries ? Who will slaughter each other in wars for the 1% while the 1% is laughing their asses off from their palaces ? Who will fill the streets with the homeless ? Who will fill up the hospitals ? Who will scam the suckers ? Who is going to be extorted ? Who will complain about all of this ? Who will leave behind a ‘legacy’ of repulsive looks/genetics, tombstones, genetic mutations, diseases, deformations, debt, generational curse, being a complete failure ? Who will eat/drink/inhale the poisoned food-water-air? Who is going to make/keep filthy rich the industrial complexes of the world such as a pharmaceutical/medical/street drugs/military industrial complexes ? Who is going to be brainwashed/indoctrinated by the public/private indoctrination camps ? Who are going to be the failure/losers of the world (99% of the world) ? Who will invade/migrate to other ‘countries’ ? Who will force their offspring into various religions and commit atrocities in the name of their religion ? Who will commit genocide, democide, ethnic cleansing ? Who is going to complain about all of this ? WHO ????

Interesting discussion. I guess my question to the anti-procreation crew who use the "life is suffering" argument, is how do you continue participating? I think we implicitly value life even with the suffering given the fact that we continue living.

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Great job as always fellas! 💯

This is gonna be a good episode

Good episode. Natalists always mention legacy as their main reason for having offspring. What legacy? How many of us can be genuine and forthcoming with ourselves. There are not many that have a so-called "legacy". Think about some of the most revered figures in history like Socrates, MLK, Malcolm, Nikola Tesla, Thomas Edison, Ben Frank, etc. Are their kids ever mentioned? There is not always a silver line in the suffering, and not all will see this life as a blessing. The pain is always more impactful than pleasure, and jealousy and boredom are the galvanizing factors.

I'm an unwanted burden to myself and I would never have children because they might hate existing also.

Dropping a review in a few

Was waiting for this episode!

Salute 💯

Why are men having this conversation when women are the ones who contribute like 90% to procreation? Men only contribute with their sperm, women do everything else, so it's not men's place to be pro- or anti-natalist.

Around the age of 16, I vowed never to inflict the kind of suffering I experienced on my children. Initially, I wasn't against procreating. I just wanted to guarantee that my children wouldn't suffer like I had. Despite all of the scenarios I imagined that guaranteed my children wouldn't suffer like I had, they could suffer something comparable - I could get run over by a bus, rendering my guarantees as useful as a chocolate fireguard. I began to question why I felt it necessary for them to suffer at all (thirst/hunger/boredom/physical discomfort/shame/guilt/injuries/illness/the continued harassment of having to attend school/work and suffer its related torments for 60+ years/frustrated desires/heart break/grief/the torment of the knowledge of one's own mortality, the process of dying etc). I asked myself why I wanted to procreate. Why does _anyone_ voluntarily intentionally procreate? As far as I can see, it's a method to cope/hope/derive meaning/purpose in one's life. Given that I found other ways to achieve these things, and that many other people in society appear to be content leading child-free lifestyles (indicating that they also found other ways to achieve these things), why can't everyone else? They can. Is it therefore ethical to use (abuse and kill) one's children for this purpose when there are alternatives?

37:22 I find it very funny that people mention the be fruitful and multiple verse in the bible. But do yall even ask yourself, why Adam and eve was created or why the world was created in the first place? Of course not. That takes too much analytical thinking... Why yall never mention Ecclesiastes 4? It's in the very same bible the be fruitful and multiply verse is in... Ecclesiastes 4: Again I looked and saw all the oppression that was taking place under the sun: I saw the tears of the oppressed- and they have no comforter; power was on the side of their oppressors- and they have no comforter. And I declared that the dead, who had already died, are happier than the living, who are still alive. But better than both is the one who has never been born, who has not seen the evil that is done under the sun.

I would love to come on and debate if you are located in Florida.

I would never bring children into this world to struggle. Life is hell.

Great video. I wouldn’t want to bring kids into this world for the simple fact that….i can’t stand them mfs 🤣

As a man you don't have to have kids its all your choice, just know that its not really worth the investment. Go MGTOW

There is a pervasive assumption that suffering will always yield something positive and this is not true. So many people literally suffer and die immediately afterwards.. what did the gain? So many men and women are walking around with trauma and mental anguish that they either bury deep down or act out on each other. You really have to evaluate your morality if you think its ok to continue populating people in a world which causes so much permanent damage to people. Optimism and hope seem great on the surface but you have to accept that most of the time its actually delusion.

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Great job fellas! Life is to be lived & enjoyed & kids are blessings that help you become a greater YOU! Love you Nef & I hope you revisit this perspective with more age & wisdom! ❤

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New Piece of Mind!

Salute

Salute to Relly.

I prepared something for you my men. Cani send it to you somewhere?

Need a tshirt that day life be lifin

I use to be on ecstasy, I know the feeling of addiction.

Salute to you good brothers.

Great conversation as always 💪🏾

Great Pod! Listener from Iceland.

Thank you Family 🙏🏾🙏🏿🙏🏽

I appreciate each of you being vulnerable & authentic in sharing your POVs, testimonials, and solutions regarding substance abuse and addictions. I think social restoration in our communities definitely would help as well as laying the foundation with convos like this. Really enjoyed this y'all!

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@ 10:30 Jae you talking about Portugal! They legalized all drugs in 2000, and used all of the money that was going into punishment & incarceration and instead put it into community connection programs & rehab. 15 years later, the worst addiction rate in the world dropped dramatically. Job placement was up, overdoses were down.

My reaction to this video topic coming soon.