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Black people suffer from an identity crisis. We’ve claimed to be everything except our black African selves after being freed from slavery for approximately 2 centuries within this country. We need to have a Sankofa!

You go too church too here the word the rest you live a long just make sure that it’s coming from the Bible and no where else

Is there anyone living a holy life in the black church? They will steal your wife. They will stay gossiping about you. And we don't like hanging around gay guys.

Yall are a blessing. Women called to leadership and/or marketplace need more conversations like this as well. Men are really needed in the church, to teach women these principles.

Yall should have way more engagement. Men need to hear this. In God’s timing though As a female, thank you. Im benefitting

The good ones arent doing a good of a job advertising if thats the case og, again doing what we said is the issue, shaming, demeaning, degrading, gods love has been with me and watched over me, and ive not heen in a church in years, yall forgot the sauce, i pray man smh

Let me set this straight right off the bat. I firmly believe in my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and acknowledge that I am a filthy sinner, that being said, I simpathize with the men that are going through this in the Black Church. Even though I am white, I feel their pain. The church turned its back on me and I saw them pandering to the materialistic needs of women while glossing over their "infidelities" while skewering the men for not "manning up". Men are struggling across the board and I have not seen ANYONE in the church hold them accountable. The church let me down.

Maby bcs bl ppl says god is racist, wat ta

Preach the Word and feed the sheep. Good conversation.

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It's just not black men not wanting to go through church... it's whites, Hispanics, Asian, Native American..as well.

Its because they go to clubs on Saturday and wake in bed on Sunday with a woman they picked up from The Club

Amen. Seeing is not believing. Average is actually an unsult to the one who made you great. There's a clear difference between sight and vision. Numbers 13:32-33 focuses on what you see using your ability versus what you know based on what the Word of GOD says. Relying on sight will always let you down because you will never see the whole picture.

I almost watched this video to see if I could relate. Part 1 as well but unfortunately I’m not black so I couldn’t possibly understand what they’re talking about.

THE CHURCH HAS NOTHING TO OFFER A MAN. SO TAKE YOUR LOVING EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE AND RUN WITH IT.

Great Conversation very well presented powerful content

My worship: is my walk. “Sheep on the right hand, goats on the left.” What we do for the least of these, is Service/Worship unto the LORD. Buildings by hands is irrelevant by the above Standards🟣

If we don't go to church, then we are forsaking the assembly of ourselves as the manner of the world, therefore we are in direct rebellion against an Apostolic commandment, which means we are in direct violation of the Word of God and are probably not truly in Christ. Find a Bible believing, Bible preaching, Christ following church.

One fundamental reason I do not go to church is that I find it arduous to believe in the existence of God. It just does not make sense at all, in fact i find it ridiculous and stupid. Hence I'm an Atheist.

You don't go to church because you love your sin. Period. You can word salad excuses all day long.

You ever wonder why this stuff doesn’t add up? Well, it’s because it doesn’t add up. Black folks need to study the history of religion, and I don’t mean just Christianity. Religion started thousands of years before Christianity. And what you find is the same tropes passed down through the centuries and duplicated in different versions across many regions. The Epic of Gilgamesh is the almost identical flood story before the Bible’s version. Circumcision, blood sacrifice, resurrection, half-man half-deity, rising from the dead, walking on water, turning water into wine, did not originate with Christianity. In fact, the Old Testament didn’t have a hell to go to, which is why some Jews don’t teach hell. Hell evolved with Christianity. In fact, Christianity evolved from Greco Roman philosophies, Zoroastrian religion and others within the region. No persons were in a vacuum, this was evolution. Black folks need to study the scholarship on these subjects. I would start with Bart D Ehrman for the New Testament and Joel S Baden for the Old Testament. Happy research!

Knowledge can be attained through reading of books and conversations wisdom is a form of discernment and being able to apply itboth are key factors but wisdom is earned through life if knowledge is applied and wisdom is gained.

We wonder why schools are a mess...God was taken out of schools. We wonder why families are a mess...men were remived from the families. And the ones left don't respect God, aren't hungry for a relaionahip with Gof and make a lot of excuses to not attend a bible teaching church. They aee their wives and girlfriends attending, being active, praying, studying thr Bible, giving to the poor and praying for the sick, helping young people and STILL will give excuses to why they won't attend. Perhaps because the church wont rationalize their lifestyle, and will speak to demonic activity that they don't want to be delivered from. Kind of hard to sit in church with your wife when you're cheating on her with the lady sitting next to her in the pew.

I love it. I am going to take this and play it at my church for men meeting

I’m Latin woman I don’t go I like being in my House 🏠

Black men in America don't know how much their mental capacity has been damaged.We must confront this first in order to move forward.

It is disgusting to hear these guys carry on.If they would have picked up a book other than the bible they might had found their heaven.Blackmen in America are in a real trap in2024.Not totally their fault ,but they still do not have a God that look like them.The ignorance of the blackman in America of himself is his foundational undoing at 2024. I am black myself and I laugh at this in spite of.Why not be able to say I found out the bible is a carbon copy of a carbon copy.And I don't do church cause black people ain't raising Money to create for black children.😊You got to have read books to make those statements

Black men still don't get a pass on this one.Most were confused about religion anyway.Not truly understanding that church is a place where your spirit must lay.A heartbeat that echoes the many of those like you.Low income can become big income. Black men do not understand that they must train their minds to focus all their energy on black children as a whole.If you don't share in the celebration of yourselves then you miss the whole point about God from the start😊

Yo real talk every time Santa Clause (OG with the Navy Crew Neck) speaks I feel like I’m on an LSD trip… WTH is he saying… (put up subtitles for him PLEASE)… and I really want to know what he’s saying!

Is it just me or were there parts of both videos where the audio was garbling?

The majority of this pagan church is the majority of women because it's a sign that it's not of the word but pagan. As the word says, man was not deceived by satan, but the woman was. Man was beguiled through woman, because she's the weakest vessel. That's why we have to read and study the gospel, and when you find the truth, don't let the false prophet and teachers steal it from your heart. Like the parable of the seeds planted

See, you all are having church now. Just as Jesus did. Everything that Jesus complained about was abolished

Because these pagan churches are not teaching the truth of the word of God. Instead it's a scheme to get your money. It's satanic because paying tithes and offering puts you back under the law. We're not under the law we are under faith and grace.. An unrighteous people observer the law. The word says if you observe the law then it's nothing that Christ can do for you. And satan marks you with the building of temples and churches instead of the temple in your heart, where the Lord dwells.

I dont go to church because religion is not real. With christianity, the bible has a 6000 year old universe and stories that are proven to never have happened, But you just take it on faith. There is nothing about the large meteor strike that took out most of the life on earth but we have a flood story 4300 years ago during a time we know several civilizations recorded their history. This includes the Egyptians with over 5000 years of history and who also didnt recorded a large exodus and. loss of their army.

Loved this discussion!

Black men? Men of any color don't go, for men it's a horrible horrible place filled with churchians saying horrible things to men. The Bible tells us about these people "And from such people turn away!" 🇸🇪

Thanks for sharing this. Good to hear the barbershop truth.

I kept hearing "people" with reference to how the Pastor is elevated instead of WOMEN! The mamas raise the pimps then compare you to him and want you to give him money. Nah.

It's sad most ministers don't know the bible. All the disciples knew the torah.

Why some men do stay married beyond 50.

Why some men do stay married beyond 50.

Church is just money-making enterprise wrapped inside of a social club... I have never been happier since I stopped attending all churches and listening to all pastors.. T.D. Jakes closed the door for me: He had this habit of turning his back on the congregation while he was preaching... THAT IS A SURE SIGN OF DISRESPECT!

WESTERNIZED CHRISTIANITY IS ALL FALSE...

Men need the truth, they need to hear a true presentation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I don’t like the term (Black Church) but I do understand what U mean. The true Church is made up of all born again believers in Jesus Christ no matter what your ethnicity may be. Many of our (Black Churches) are nothing more than entertainment centers rather than places of true worship. We have everything from Rap Music, people dancing in the isles as if they were at the club Saturday night, and much more craziness that should not take place in the local Church. There is so much dishonesty in the local church. Pastors stealing money, or deep moral issues like having affairs with woman while married and so much more. Black men if you have a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ keep your mind and heart on Him and He will direct your path to a healthy well balanced Bible Believing Church.

Because the church has been used to: Keep us in bondage, hold black women down, discriminate against gays, make us distrustful of our neighbors, stupidly conservative....shall i continue?

Because men can detect that pimp energy from a mile away. Women can't because they're attracted to it and enticed by it. As long as he comes off as masculine, says the right things to make them feel good they'll open their pockectbooks and their legs.

Great conversation!!

The church is an effeminate place that produces single women and gay men. 😢

Check black women and black men will go back to church. I feel so bad for men who live in a matriarchal culture…no respect or admiration of the masculine contributors.

Yall need to meet and learn about Jesus before you focus on a church. If you seek a relationship with God you WILL find a good church