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Understanding and Critiquing the Woke Right (w/ Dr. Neil Shenvi)
Dr. Neil Shenvi joins me to discuss and critique a new online movement that he's termed the "Woke Right."
Here is Dr. Shenvi's blog article where he first discussed the topic of the Woke Right: shenviapologetics.com/what-is-the-woke-right/
Additionally, here is Dr. Shenvi's book defining and critiquing Critical Theory from an academic and Christian perspective: a.co/d/bBeEbHP
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Chapters:
00:00 Teaser
00:43 Intro
02:20 Dr. Shenvi's Presentation
53:57 Post-War Consensus
58:50 Online Anonymity
1:05:55 No Enemies to the Right?
1:12:05 "I'm Just Asking Questions!"
1:18:46 Reaching a Friend Who's Become Woke
1:25:19 How to Avoid Wokeness
1:29:29 Concluding Thoughts
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  • @DMWayne-ke7fl
    @DMWayne-ke7fl 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Wow. Shenvi discovered the language of a movement that thinks of itself as dissdent will tend to match the language of other dissdent movements. Next up. The peasant revolt. Luther crushed medieval wokeness.

  • @samyiy
    @samyiy วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why is it so hard to just call them fascists. Fascism famously stole left wing rethoric since it's inception.

    • @SettingTheLowestBarPossible
      @SettingTheLowestBarPossible 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Because fascism placed the state over religion. Christian Nationalists seeks to place a religion over the state. It doesn't fit nicely. In addition: calling the counter-culture "fascist" in 2024 is just placing logs on a well-lit fire; see the 2024 election for greater detail

  • @NorthumbrianNationalist
    @NorthumbrianNationalist วันที่ผ่านมา

    Luther was right about needed reform, but his theology is just awful Still will never be as bad as Calvans tho

  • @j.athanasius9832
    @j.athanasius9832 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just say “illiberal right”. It’s accurate, and isn’t totally stupid like “woke right”.

    • @javierperd2604
      @javierperd2604 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@j.athanasius9832 Watch the video.

    • @SettingTheLowestBarPossible
      @SettingTheLowestBarPossible 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      He'll watch the video and still be right.

    • @TheOtherPaul
      @TheOtherPaul 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Seconded (Ive almost finished the vid).

    • @javierperd2604
      @javierperd2604 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheOtherPaul The parallels are clearly there, whether you guys want to admit it or not 🤷‍♂️ Neil documents that reality very well in this video.

    • @SettingTheLowestBarPossible
      @SettingTheLowestBarPossible 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@javierperd2604 Even if we were to grant you the parallel, OP would still be right. Branding ideas as "woke" is extremely stale and makes you sound like an uncreative Fox News segment writer. Woke is a coded magic word for signaling Marxism for boomers that don't want to think very hard; it makes the younger generations cringe at this point.

  • @jackshannon777
    @jackshannon777 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very good.

  • @SettingTheLowestBarPossible
    @SettingTheLowestBarPossible วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think using the "victim" parralel between right and left is forced because the author needs it for his argument, and therefore sloppy. The new right isnt talking like victims, they talk like a defeated army tired of losing the culture wars with this authors bad defensive tactics. The new right wants to be on the offensive, particularly now that the winds are blowing in their favor. Christ haters like lindsay and shapiro are seeking to cut off their momentum, which is why the movement is now rejecting them.

  • @asfg-g7i
    @asfg-g7i วันที่ผ่านมา

    MARXISM IS NOT WOKE. COMMUNISM IS THE DICTATORSHIP OF THE COMMON MAN.

  • @SettingTheLowestBarPossible
    @SettingTheLowestBarPossible วันที่ผ่านมา

    28:15 Getting rid of obvious degeneracy is radical? Can we counter by saying handing porn to children through their phones is radical and destructive? Can we counter by saying cutting off genetalia is radical and destructive? Can we counter by saying 1 million abortions per year is radical and destructive? Its really difficult to take this left-coded centrism seriously in 2024.

  • @asfg-g7i
    @asfg-g7i วันที่ผ่านมา

    MAGACOMMUNISM is inevitable

  • @sm2049
    @sm2049 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Basically the "Woke right" boils down to anti Israeli and pre French revolution standards.

  • @yeshua_base64
    @yeshua_base64 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Shenvi is a crypto-progressive.

    • @YTTraveler777
      @YTTraveler777 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ok. Except he literally wrote a book exposing CRT. Stop writing things on the internet. You are foolish.

    • @Ant794
      @Ant794 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I love hearing these new phrases, “crypto-progressive”, like what?😭

    • @yeshua_base64
      @yeshua_base64 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Ant794 He's actually a crypto-progressive gnostic.

    • @SettingTheLowestBarPossible
      @SettingTheLowestBarPossible 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Ant794 it's not hard to understand...

  • @oldensad5541
    @oldensad5541 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lol. Woke is "being awakened" and became aware of injustice of this world. You can't be woke and "on the right" coz conservatism presuppose this world is fine, just and worth to be kept in current state. How you even imagine someone being "yeah, this world is full of injustice, cruel and just garbage. We should stay this way". No one think like that 😂

  • @YTTraveler777
    @YTTraveler777 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cory Mahler aka the stone chior.

  • @YTTraveler777
    @YTTraveler777 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jon Harris constantly white washes antebellem South.

  • @incertosage
    @incertosage วันที่ผ่านมา

    Loved this interview ❤

  • @RikEischen
    @RikEischen วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am so glad that Almighty God rescued you from the legalism of Rome, and issued you a Get Out of Purgatory Free card. God is good! His steadfast love endureth forever!!! ἀμήν.

  • @RikEischen
    @RikEischen วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is it enough? Is it enough? And your example of Confession before God the Judge reminded me of monk Martin of Eisleben, Deutschland, who also could not reconcile the Roman Catholici Christ the Judge with a loving, merciful Father who welcomes home the prodigal son.

  • @RikEischen
    @RikEischen วันที่ผ่านมา

    How would you help Roman Catholics understand and appreciate Simul iustus et Peccator?

  • @RikEischen
    @RikEischen วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wish you would do a program on why people should not assume the Marian apparitions are somehow legitimate because the modern R.C. church claims their legitimacy is somehow obvious because Rome says they're true.

  • @trenthobson2756
    @trenthobson2756 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really not care if the framework came from Gramscey, I care if the values reflect the teachings of Christ. I have no problem living in a Christian nation which has taken some if it's policies from Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Mussolini, or Hirohito, as long as the policy is ultimately Christian, and opposes sin in a holy way. Just because Hitler made laws against animal abuse does not mean America should leglize all animal abuse. God is our authority.

  • @RikEischen
    @RikEischen 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "My soul doth magnify the Lord and my spirit rejoiceth in God, my SAVIOUR. " May, mother of our Lord, was in need of a Savior, just like us.

  • @RikEischen
    @RikEischen 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "My soul doth magnify the Lord and my spirit rejoiceth in God, my SAVIOUR. " May, mother of our Lord, was in need of a Savior, just like us.

  • @RikEischen
    @RikEischen 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It is Finished! It is Accomplished! TETELESTAI !!!

  • @SerenityNow22
    @SerenityNow22 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ughhh Neil Shenvi? 🤮 Guy goes to JD Greear’s church. Last guy who should be speaking about “wokeness” of any kind.

    • @javierperd2604
      @javierperd2604 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SerenityNow22 Neil *literally* wrote an entire book defining and critiquing the Left's critical theory. He's been an outspoken critic of the Left for a long time.

    • @YTTraveler777
      @YTTraveler777 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh. Guilt by association strategy? Got it.

    • @SettingTheLowestBarPossible
      @SettingTheLowestBarPossible วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@YTTraveler777 Well, yeah. People _should_ be influenced by the Christianity preached at their church. So it's not unfair to expect this author to be influenced by Greer, and be a mouthpiece for his teaching.

    • @SettingTheLowestBarPossible
      @SettingTheLowestBarPossible วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's easy to critique the obvious for book money; much harder to find solutions (see Marx). The Christian Nationalist thesis, that for America to survive as a great nation, it must become overtly Christian, is a much better attempt at a long-term solution than anything I've heard from Lindsay or Shapiro, or this guy.

  • @RikEischen
    @RikEischen 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pastor Andrew, God shaped your life and prepared you to serve to this capacity for such a time as this. Thank you for being an instrument of His peace.

  • @RikEischen
    @RikEischen 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you so much for sharing your story of Almighty God's great work in your life.

  • @TKK0812
    @TKK0812 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I trust what my doctor tells me therefor sola medical science is false.

  • @RitaGatton
    @RitaGatton 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    With all due respect, I prefer to be in the Catholic Church, established by Jesus Christ in Matthew 16:18-19 rather than in a church founded by Martin Luther, a man. The Catholic Church did not need cleansing by Martin Luther. Our Lord promised to His Church in Matthew 16:19, “The gates of Hades will not overcome it.” and in Matthew 28:20, “I am with you always, to the very end of the age”. He is God. And, He has protected the Catholic Church from error for two thousand years. If you say that the Catholic Church was corrupted after three or four hundred years, but the Lutheran Church has lasted for five hundred years, you are saying that Jesus Christ is not as good at organizing a church as Martin Luther was.

  • @Holesdontexist
    @Holesdontexist 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where do I find the debate?

  • @danocinneide1885
    @danocinneide1885 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth...1 Tim 3.15. There's only one Church only one body of Christ.

  • @ora_et_labora1095
    @ora_et_labora1095 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Too good

  • @ChristiansColloquy
    @ChristiansColloquy 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great interview! One thing that I think is often neglected is that "Christian nationalism" only makes sense in cultures where "nationalism" makes sense. In a lot of new nation-states, with arbitrary borders linking otherwise unrelated tribes, a lot of this simply would not make sense without serious repackaging.

  • @PreDustined
    @PreDustined 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is plaguing the confessional reformed churches by countles debate

  • @Jakov-or7fp
    @Jakov-or7fp 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nobody, probably since they've been dead for a few hundred years, if the room is in heaven, then it becomes a real discussion

  • @unit2394
    @unit2394 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good video. As always, cool to hear this man’s story. I bet a lot of people’s exposure to Eastern Orthodoxy involved Jonathan Pageau, and by extension, Jung. One thought I had, would you ever consider doing a video specifically on your own journey? We’ve had most of it in bits and pieces in other videos, but it would be interesting to hear in a dedicated video detailing your trip from Baptist minister, to struggling with Rome and the East, then discerning where you wanted to be in the Protestant Umbrella, and ultimately becoming Lutheranism (and why specifically you ended up choosing Lutheranism). As always, great work on the Protestant apologetics front. God bless!

    • @javierperd2604
      @javierperd2604 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for the kind words! I am definitely planning on filming just such a video, Lord-willing, in the very near future.

    • @unit2394
      @unit2394 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ awesome!

  • @thoughtfulchristianity
    @thoughtfulchristianity 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sean's Dog Barking is part of my systematic theology XD In all seriousness, great discussion gentlemen. Much needed in this time of confusion. The rise of the Right-Wing Identity politics is the next front that must be tackled in order to squash identity politics in general and focus on Gospel informed public policy. Like Sean said, top-down legislation leads to eventual revolution, this is why the Left-Wing woke agenda was so radically rejected this election cycle (they were forcing their views). Rather legislation that is bottom-up remains institutionalized. The reason why Postmodernism and Secularism infiltrated society has multiple sources of origin but to summarize them quickly: 1. The Frankfurt School's influence in colleges. 2. The 19th Century Liberalism (nonpolitical) that swept theological schools. 3. The Rise of Dispensationalism and Fundamentalism in response to said liberalism, this led to many Christians abandoning college during the 1950s and 1960s. 4. The Rise of Hollywood. 5. Mega Corporations that centralized economic power. 6. The students of the Frankfurt influenced colleges were hired in Hollywood, Mega Corporations, Government, and even the Church. The way to recuperate the Republic is not through the Sword, rather education and media influence. This in turn leads to Christian ideas filtering through the people which leads to the people demanding legislation that addresses their concerns.

  • @Blaisesongs
    @Blaisesongs 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Check in with Orthodox. Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, Bulgarian Orthodox, Ukrainian Orthodox. Etc. All state churches and church states. How’s that working out? Yet they have essentially one Christian denomination. Too many expressions of Christendom for that to work out on this side of the pond. But it is an interesting question.

  • @trenthobson2756
    @trenthobson2756 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    54:00 Did he just re-invent the Pope?

    • @RizzenMurray
      @RizzenMurray 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Also at 27:00

  • @edwinkubena9944
    @edwinkubena9944 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The modernists are evil period and Novus Ordo is modernist so figure it out

  • @SolaFide-q2b
    @SolaFide-q2b 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You can’t be a Christian and a F@cist at the same time, just putting this out there.

  • @kylie5741
    @kylie5741 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looking forward to watching this, I saw a great interview with Dr. Shenvi a while back on a different topic

  • @DavidCotePhotography
    @DavidCotePhotography 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In certain parts of the evangelical world, patriotism and faith have merged into something not traditional Christianity. Having come out of that world, it is pretty scary, and yes, there is a Christian Nationalist mindset out there. Like it or not. One can be a Christian and one can be a patriotic person, but they are two separate and discreet things. In Christian Nationalism, they have blended and become a singular thing.

  • @mloy1915
    @mloy1915 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was not an issue for LCMS until Vietnam. Look at LW during that time (1940-1960), very pro American, it is called a Christian’s Civic duty to support the Nation.

  • @thejoshuaproject3809
    @thejoshuaproject3809 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In the history of the earth there's never been a truly Christian Nation. There have been many cheap imitations but this will never happen until Christ comes again.

  • @thejoshuaproject3809
    @thejoshuaproject3809 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a Hispanic man whose family has a long history in the United States many of the "Christian nationalists" I've dealt with have been some of the most racist white supremacists I've ever met in person and spoken to online.

  • @ora_et_labora1095
    @ora_et_labora1095 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

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  • @pommerschermapper6209
    @pommerschermapper6209 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gregory of Narek was in Armenian Apostolic Church. Still non-chalcedonian though