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Four Fletch Archery
United States
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 11 มี.ค. 2011
My archery and bowhunting journey...
Hunting Rig Rundown
In this video, I give a quick run through of the equipment I will take to the woods this fall!
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MY 3 BOWHUNTING TIPS FOR THIS FALL!
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In this video, I share 3 tips that have helped me be more successful in hunting whitetails with a bow. I am sure some will agree and some will disagree with what I discuss in this video. Let me know in the comments section the tips you would add to the list! Best of luck this fall friends. Shoot straight!
3D Archery
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This is a portion of a round I recently shot with my good friend Dustin. This was my first time using multiple cameras so it has been a bit of a learning curve. We had a great time and Dustin shot great with his Field Rig and skinny arrows! Thanks for following along!
TAC Vanes part 1
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In this video, I share my initial first impressions of the ever-popular TAC Vanes.
PSE EVO EVL with EC cam vs. PSE EVO XF with E2 cam
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In this video, the EVL goes head to head against the XF with the brand new E2 cam. Watch the video for my thoughts on the draw cycle, as well as, true speed numbers through a chronograph.
Episode 5.3 Final steps in adding new strings
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In this third installment, we finish up the final "inside" tune.
Episode 5.2 How to : Add strings and initial set up
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In this installment, I cover how to add new strings and initial setup. How to add a d-loop, peep, nocking points, etc.
Episode 5.1 Bow Setup
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This is the first installment in a short series of videos walking you through my personal step-by-step process for setting up a bow. Follow along and be sure to pass along any tips you have in the comments section!
2021-22 Hunting Rig Recap
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I go through my entire hunting setup from this past year. PSE Evo EVL 34- psearchery.com/ Twisted X Bowstrings- twistedxbowstrings.com/ Wartorn Archery Shellshock Stabilizers- www.wartornarchery.com/ Shrewd Scope Rod, Front Disconnect 8degree, Atlas- www.shrewdarchery.com/ Hamskea Hybrid Hunter Pro Micro Rest and Insight Peep- www.hamskeaarchery.com/ Victory VAP SS Elite- www.victoryarchery.com...
How to fix a vertical paper tear.
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In this video, I try out a tuning method for repairing vertical paper tears. This was shared with me by my good friend Chris Simmons who has extensive archery, bow building, bow tuning, and string building experience.
Episode 2- How to shim cams
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In this video you will receive step-by-step instruction on how to shim cams.
Intro to Four Fletch Archery
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In the first installment, I answer some common questions!
PSE Mach 33 spacers snap in and out without removing axle. Good video, but removing strings and axles is too much for me. Especially if you have to do it more than once
Thankfully bow manufacturers have made tremendous strides in offering much more convenient tuning options! Thanks for watching!
Got new strings and now have low tear. Cannot straighten it out with rest. Will try this. Thanks
Moving the string or moving the rest accomplish the same thing. The rest and string just need to be inline. If you have problems after that it's your shooting from that is the problem.
Thanks for the comment. It is true that you can move your rest to “tune” your bow but, in some instances, your arrow will be extremely out of line with your front stabilizer. Most would prefer to set the rest at center shot and move the string. This keeps everything in a nice straight line. 🫡
@FourFletchArchery 13/16 from Burger button. And again if you are moving it too far you need to look at yourself. Not the bow.
Thank you! exactly what I was looking for!
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
Great in depth video.
Appreciate that! Thanks for watching!
No need to take both eclips off.
100%! Thanks for watching!
Yup!! Done this several times!. Works great
Thanks for watching!
Hey man ! Thanks for the video! I’ve been stuck with the same consistent tear , tried everything ,yoke, spine, rest, timing, grip, I just keep getting the same tear . I knew from other videos this was the only thing left to try … your video gave me the confidence to try. I’m getting great groups with the bow as it is but I’m trying to take it a step further and get my broad heads to group with fieldpoints, at the moment they are just to the right. I’ll be testing results tomorrow and keep adjusting if I need to , took me half an hour to swap the shims. And thanks to the comments I managed to do it without removing the strings cause my timing is set pretty good. So thanks again for taking the time to help others with your video .
Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching! 🫡
Does it make you lose speed?
@@ShaneBolerHunting Always a cause and effect! Could lose speed or in the right circumstances possibly gain. More than likely it will cost you a few fps though! Thanks for watching!
Very impressed. Excellent vid.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for making this video. I consider myself somewhat of an "expert" when it comes to archery but I have learned a few new tips and tricks that will solidify taking me to the next level.
Could have moved the D loop, or the rest been done way faster. Like hr faster
This is just showing another method that would keep the arrow level. If you wanted to run your arrow downhill you do have that option as well. Appreciate the comment.
@FourFletchArchery I wish you would have run it through a chrono so we could have seen the speed.
How much speed did you lose after adding the speed knocks?
I wish I had taken note of this but I did not. My apologies! Thanks for watching!
Hi, nice video. I own a 2018 pse expedite and I would like to start tuning my own bow. It will be nice if you could explain why moving the cam to left when seeing a left tear on paper and at the end of the video yo said you had to move your rest because you could still see a little bit of a left tear on paper but you did not say which direction you had to move the rest to and why. Thank you.
I do all of my paper tuning from 5 yards. The fix for a tail left tear is either move the string to the left or the rest to the right. It would be the exact opposite for a tail right tear or a left handed shooter. I use paper tuning as a close starting point. Then I do a walk back tune to fine tune my center shot. Hope this helps!
Would it be acceptable to back out the bottom limb bolt a little bit to reduce the limb force? Would that also accomplish the same thing?
Yes, there is more than one way to go about this! Thank you for watching!
@@FourFletchArchery Thanks for the feedback, sir! I shall give it a try.
you mention "you knew" the cams needed adjusted. how did you know? what are you looking for to make that determination or what symptoms did you have?
I shot the bow through paper at about 5 yards. A tear in paper let me know the arrow wasn’t coming out of the bow true. This is when I made the decision to shim cams. Thanks for watching! 🫡
Awesome Video brother! Very informative. I have a PSE 3BXL with the same issue, and I'm going to invest in a press and do this myself thanks to your help. You made it look pretty simple, and gave me some confidence. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! Sorry for the slow response!
Audio is static
It was raining hard on the building. Sorry for the poor audio quality! Thanks for watching.
I had 100 up front and had that same tear until I added 120 up front and it’s not shooting a bullet hole.only lost 7fps and you adding those brass nocks I’m sure you would loose more.
Appreciate the video!
Thanks for watching!
For most Pse bows, do you need to purchase shims or should you be able to do what you have to with what’s on the bow?
Typically, you will just move around what you have. If you are running the newer EZ .220 system you may have to purchase a shim kit with the tool and additional shims. The old washer style you will just swap shims from one side to the other as needed. 🫡
@@FourFletchArchery Thanks for the info. Im on the fence of purchasing a gen 1 levitate and cant really find info on shimming. Id like to work on it myself. I know the gen 2 would be easier but it’s easier to find a gen 1.
You won't be disappointed in the Levitate! @@jons858
Great job and I appreciate the fact that you acknowledge you're not a professional. I shoot a Hoyt and it has the shims that require a press in order to remove the axle, however, it pretty simple with the right equipment. Very good video quality.
Thanks for the kind words and for watching! 🫡
Thank you man; don't be so modest, you are an excellent teacher!
I appreciate that! Thanks for watching! 🫡
Great video. Thanks foe sharing 👍
Thanks for watching!
Couldn’t you back off the bottom limb bolt a 1/16 to 1/8? Or go up on rest spring rate?
There are several ways to fix this type of tear. This is just a little more out of the box method. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts! 👊🏽
MOVING THE SIGHT CLOSER OR FARTHER FROM THE BOW CHANGES NOTHING ABOUT HOW THE ARROW LEAVES THE BOW. If a bow/arrow combo is tuned properly and you put that bow on a shooting machine, the arrows will, within reason, always leave the bow the same way and hit the same spot on the target. If you don't change the setup of the bow on the machine, or the position of the machine relative to the target, then moving the sight pin up, down, left, right, forward OR backwards will change nothing about the way the arrow leaves the bow or the flight of the arrow, and the arrow will still hit the same spot on the target. Torquing the bow will obviously change things, but moving the sight in or out will not. Changing the distance from the ARROW REST to the string changes the pivot point of the arrow, which will change the trajectory of the arrow when it leaves the bow. TORQUE TUNING REQUIRES MOVING THE ARROW REST IN OR OUT. If I am wrong, please explain how.
I appreciate the passionate response. You answered the question in your own statement, “torquing the bow will obviously change things”…hence the method of “torque tuning”. It’s the relation of the pin to the arrow rest. I understand your thought process but if your pin is 1” from the riser or 6 feet from the riser torquing the bow will produce MUCH different results. I mentioned in the video that you can also do this with your rest, which in a lot of ways, is the better method due to not changing your overall sight picture, magnification, etc… The beauty of this is you don’t even have to trust me. Test it for yourself. Thanks for watching.
Now, I have seen video after video talking about shimming cams to tune a broadhead. I, in my 62 years have never had to do that. Now I have not shot the full 62 years of course, but I was an indoor 300 competitive shooter. Also a life long bow Hunter. Just my opinion, but can shimming should not be a thing. There is another issue. Find it and fix that. If it’s your grip, get it right. Also, too many bows without a grip at all, when back in my day they all came with three. You picked the one that for your hand the best and installed that one. We need to get back to interchangeable grips on the bows again. Everyone’s hands are different. So just my input, stop messing with the factory set I’m and find why your broadhead a won’t tune. Maybe just poor broadheads also.
this video is exactly, what i'm looking for. i was angry about my nock, which had to be outside the square to have a good paper test. thank you very much.
Thanks for watching and the kind words!
Why not just move your rest?
You can certainly do that if you don’t mind your arrow running downhill…you can also play with limb deflections as well. There are several different approaches that can be taken. Thanks for the comment. 🫡
I’ve seen some do this with their rest does it matter either or does one benefit more than the other ?
It’s the correlation between the rest and the sight. You can move either/or. Some people have a specific sight picture they prefer so they opt to move the rest! Great question! Thanks for watching!
@@FourFletchArchery right on
At what point do you decide your cams need adjusted? What to look for on the paper or on our bows that says it’s cams are off ?
If you are getting a tail left or tail right tear through paper that would be your first indication. If it’s more than a 1/4” out I would shim. Hope this helps!
Did you move your test to the left or right at the end to clear it up even more?
So sorry for the slow response. Not sure how I missed your comment. For a right handed shooter you move the rest towards the riser (right) or the string left (shimming cam) to clean up a tail left tear. I would have moved my rest very slightly to the right to clean up! Thanks for watching!
Just ordered these and im hoping without a wrap on my VAP SS these will be okay and hoping a 3 fletch left helical 2.25” driver is enough to stabalize the smaller tooth of the arrow heads, or ill go with the 3 blade grim reaper hades head. Wanted a solid head, switching back to fixed this year. If you have not….try Bob Smith Industries glue. The pink “Maxi-Cure” label. This glue is insaneee and its the same type TAC brand recommend but an overall insane adhesion and a little thicker too
I shot VAP SS last season with 4x 2.25” left helical. They flew great! I’m sure 3 would do well also with a fixed head. You will just have to test them! Best of luck!
@@FourFletchArchery thanks man good luck to you also. What hunting arrow and fletching configuration you going with this year? Still with the shwackers too?
@@Orr_s I’ve gone back to a .204 shaft due to all of the component options. Running a RIP TKO 300 w/ Swhacker #269 125 gr, same vane set up, and a Nockturnal. Still considering testing out a Halo nock as well.
@@FourFletchArchery still 4 fletch with the tac 2.25”? Im waiting on the Halo nocks to try out but the biggest gripe with a 4mm/ .166 is the lighted nocks tend to be pretty weak and cause some tuning/flight issues. And especially with wanting to go back to fixed heads thats important and could cause issues. I have 60 grains worth of ethics archery components and sleeve on my Vap SS now and they are very strong upfront so far
I just cant put the second pin back on! 😭 im losing my mind!!!
Quick question. I am getting a consistent tear right, just opposite of your tear left. Should I move my cams to the right then to see if that helps?
Correct, for a tail right tear move the cams to the right! 🤙🏽
Do you know of a video on how to do it without removing the limbs? I am scared to death of doing that!@@FourFletchArchery
You can also back off the poundage A 1/4 turn at A time. Cleans it right up also.low tear drop the poundage on the bottom limb.
This is a great solution! Thanks for sharing!
@@FourFletchArchery tiller tuning helps with variance in limb deflection, it’s kinda A forgotten practice on compound bows. It is however affective. Thanks for your channel I love the passing of knowledge to fellow archers.
Whaaaaat??? 🤯🤯🤯 It’s amazing how many ways there are to get a bow to tune. This is a neat method, might try it on my MXR. In slow mo, it’s obvious the bottom cam is accelerating faster than the top cam, but everything is in time, so I didn’t know there was actually a way to solve this problem. I just chalked it up to being a “budget” bow, and that’s just the way it is. But this could solve that problem.
Nice job
Somebody can show you how to remove E clips, without them taking flight. Install wasn't bad but there's an easier method. Basically a small screwdriver to remove, needle nose to install. Videos available on TH-cam demoing this.
Thankfully, the new PSE bows no longer have E clips! Lol. Always a struggle for me. Thanks for watching!
What size are those Tac vanes? Thanks
Not sure why you don’t have more clicks/views in this but this was as simple and precise as it gets man! Nice job man! I appreciate it. 👊🏽
Thanks for the kind words! I appreciate you watching! 🫡
No one gives a fuck, just put the vanes on that’s what the video is about right then do it
I don't get it. In some videos they say if you have a nock right tear move the rest to the left. And if you have a nock left tear move the rest to the right. To me that doesn't make sense because if an arrow is hitting nock right that means your field tip of your arrow is pointing towards the left as it's flying. Wouldn't it make better sense to move the rest towards the right if you have a nock right tear so it steers the arrow towards the right so it flies straight?
It can be confusing mentally but I assure you the way you described it is accurate! Tail left /rest right. Tail right/ rest left. All for Right handed shooters obviously. Keep in mind the correlation between the rest position and the string and how the two will affect the porpoising of the arrow out of the bow. Thanks for the comment and for watching! 👊🏽
@@FourFletchArchery I had a really hard time comprehending this. So I guess What I had to comprehend in my own mind and what you're saying is in other words that a "right tear does not look like this (\) at brace or at full draw.... it looks like this (/) initially, and then the arrow ends up like this (\) coming off the string as it compensates for the centershot misalignment. That is why you move your rest left to adjust and find that centershot alignment that ends up giving you this (|). Like I said, may not be worded correctly- So is this basically how the physics are like with paper tuning?
Sheesh, another bow shop worker video I just watched said you DO move the rest to right for a right tear, and he then proceeded to bareshaft tune successfully doing that. I found same thing yesterday. Are some bows one way and others another??! What the hell....
I thought you had to be at least an arrows length away from the chrono..
Been running them for a season and they have done great. Haven’t had any issues with them sticking to carbon but aluminum not so well. I have done some experiments with noise and these as well as the heat vane we’re by far the quietest. Overall the Tac is my favorite hunting and 3D vane. Indoor I run the aae hybrid 26 and that has done quite well.
Love it! Thanks for sharing! 👊🏽
I wish more manufactures would be honest about vertical issues. I’ve seen one brand in particular that throws a nock low 6-7/10x. I’ve asked and asked and always told they’ve never heard of that. I, too, will not advance the cam, drop the rest, or raise the height past the berger. Awesome video, that tells you something to try outside of the industry standard. Great work!
Thanks for watching! I appreciate the kind words!
You said you could put EC cams on the XF if you want. Can you go the other way and put E2 cams on the EVL?
The EC cam is a factory option on the XF. I don’t believe the E2/S2 cams will fit on the EVL due to the cam tracks being wider on these new cams. I don’t know this with 100% certainty but I have not seen or heard of anyone retrofitting. Great question! Thanks for watching!
I have similar tear left on my PSE Evolve 35 that I bought used. Overall the bow is in good condition, but the bottom cam leans left (as in top of it leans left) while the top cam is pretty much straight. I'm about to shim the bottom one and test if I can get both straight and see how it goes.
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing! When dealing with this, I just switched the limb positions around to have the stiffer limbs on the top. Found more success that way
I’ve actually always had a slight nock high tear on my hunting set up and just always left it. Wow this is going to be a game changer. Thank u
Thanks for watching! 👊🏽
@@FourFletchArcherydoes the weight work on the top cam and fix a nock high tear?
@ it would if you are having to move your rest higher than 90°. Thanks for watching!