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Rev. Rick Cody
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เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 29 พ.ย. 2007
Pastor St. Peter Lutheran Church in St. Joseph, MO!
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I heard it explained that every human is called and the baptism is confirming this covenant of God with this human child. Faith is needed from this child as they grow up and they can choose or not choose to believe in Him. It is like circumcision on the infant signifying the first covenant.
Foolish Request of God! I want a Eucharist this is bread and wine and Jesus Christs flesh and blood in substance without the Gift of the Holy Spirit/Sacred Power/Apostolic Succession essential the confect the Eucharist in the first place (Martin Luther 1483-1546). Not following Jesus Christ's Eucharist = no Eucharist
I really like this idea a lot!
Another false teacher ruled by denominationalism! READ ACTS CHAPTER 8. Phillip told the Ethiopian Eunach when asked if he could be baptized, "If you BELIEVE with all your heart you may!" Check Mate!
@@HunnyBearCorner negative Acts 8 says nothing about “believing with all your heart.” Did you check the Greek translation or your English bible? Genesis 6:5: Genesis 8:21; Matthew 15:19 all talk about the corruption of man’s heart…it’s nothing to give to God. There’s no prerequisite for Baptism…Baptism is God’s gift to mankind and…it’s free!! Bonus!! Check mate-mate!! Thanks for the comment!
ESV
ESV which most LCMS Lutheran Churches use.
Was Timithy baptised as an infant??? Why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition??? God will adopt as He wills, those whom He will, according to His choice. Just share the holy scriptures so he can develop faith and baptise him when he wants to. Why interfere between God and the individual The wanted to adopt. You peiple want only membership. God makes it very clear in the scriptures repent and be baptized. Just because you baptise you think they are saved??? John 1:12-13 [12]Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God- [13]children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.
1 Corinthians 10:1-3 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat. During the passing on the Red Sea, it is obvious that among those groups of jews there were a lot of pregnant woman, babies and childrens. The love of God isn't restricted to age, nor race, nor sex, nor nothing. Thanks for my infant Baptisim, i came to the faith december of last year after years of not fully beliving. Praise God!
"When they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women" (Acts 8:12). These people were believers and were men and women, not infants. Simon was also baptized, but he was a man and not an infant (Acts 8:13). Then the Eunuch, "A man of Ethiopia" was baptized upon a confession of faith (Acts 8:27-39). Likewise, Saul of Tarsus, a man, was baptized (Acts 9:18; 22:16).
Thank you so much for this video, I’m trying to convince someone I really care about that infant baptism is true. I guess my only question is that in Acts 2:38 it says “repent and be baptized.” How exactly do babies repent? From what I know it’s Gods action. Do babies repent when they are older and do they “claim” their baptism when they are older? These are the only things I seem to wrestle with. I understand it’s (baptism) Gods work, that babies can have faith, it’s the fullfillement of circumcision, that is forgives sins, and gives the Holy Spirt.
It says, "Repent and be baptized". Not repent first, then be baptized. If I said, "Eat apples and oranges", that doesn't mean you can't eat oranges first and then apples second. Repent and be baptized simply means you need to do both. It does not specify an order.
Why do you call yourself reverend? The use of the title reverend is only used in the Bible one time. Psalm 111:9 The name of God, is Holy, and Reverend. The word refers in scripture only to God, not you.
What is the issue here?
@samsonsupaka8716 The issue is explained in the comment. How hard is that to understand?
I have examined all the cases of baptism in Acts of Apostles and found no hint of infant baptism. If God had wanted parents to have their infants baptized, surely he would have made such a matter so plain that, "Wayfaring men, though fools" should "not err therein" (Isaiah 35:8). But there is not one word of scripture for such practice. The scriptures must be distorted and perverted and made to teach something they do not say a word about, in order to present the idea. Assumptions must make up for what is lacking in the record, so as to make a show of sustaining the theory.
@@kac0404 why would a 1500 year old practice of the Christian Church of baptizing infants, before “believer’s baptism” or decision theology reared its ugly head, be wrong? If Baptizing infants was not appropriate, the Scritural record would have said something about it. I can come from the argument of silence in the other side of your argument. To deny infant baptism is theological theft. Baptism is God’s work, not man’s. God wants to give the gift of salvation in and through baptism. If you deny infant baptism, you either have an errant doctrine of baptism or an errant doctrine of faith. Faith is a gift given by God, not something we “decide” on. Ephesians 2:1, “You were dead in your trespasses and sins”…dead men can do nothing but stink. Adults can no more “choose Christ” than can an infant. The argument is mute. God chooses you in your baptism not the other way around. However, if you want to claim responsibility for “saving yourself” then, by all means, go right ahead. However, I will rest safely and securely in the fact that my God saved me in Ana through the waters of my Holy Baptism. If God gives me faith, and God chose me before the foundation of the world (Eph. 1), and God has adopted me as His child, and God has adopted me Gal.4:4-6, and God has written my name in the Lamb’s book of life, who am I, a sinner, to say that I had anything to do with that?!?! I am but a poor wretched sinner, who can claim nothing but my sin, and am only saved by grace through faith (Eph. 2:8-9). It is not by works….so no man can boast. But you go right ahead and take the saving and stoning work of Christ for yourself, and tell Him when you get there…Hey, Jesus, thanks for only partially saving me on the cross…now let me do my part now. This isn’t a Jesus plus theology we are talking about here. It’s Jesus, Jesus, only Jesus! Until you recognize that it’s a Jesus only theology, we have nothing in common. Thanks for the debate on the efficacy and Scriptural mandate for infant Baptism. One last point…if God didn’t intend for infants to be baptized straight away, why in the WORLD would He command that little baby boys be circumcised on the 8th day of their lives? Why would God want babies in the Old Testament to be part of His covenant family, but not in the New Testament? Your argument is simply balderdash and hold no weight. God has always desired the salvation of His children. Also, how do you know that babies can’t believe? John the Baptist leaped in Elizabeth’s womb at the presence of Jesus and at the sound of the Gospel. That was an expression of faith…you certainly can’t deny that. Also, children, including infants can communicate. You may not have children of your own, but I do, and when they cry it’s uncanny how quickly we jump up to answer their call for food and diaper changes, etc. they know how to communicate exactly what they want. Also, do you stop being a Christian when you sleep?!?! You’re not actively thinking about holy things or even about your faith, but that doesn’t stop you from believing in God and keep God from loving you. Same hold true for infants even if they are not thinking about holy things or about faith, and repentance, or anything else. They belong to God nevertheless just like we belong to God. Let me guess you gave your heart to Jesus at some point? Right?
@revcody All of that, and you still never answered my question. I specifically ask for no unnecessary commentary, and you did just that. What I want from you is to show me in the New Testament where infants were baptized in the name of the Lord for the remission of their sins. Again, give book, chapter, and verse only. No opinions or long unnecessary commentary needed!
@@revcody Read Romans 5:12. “Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned” - NKJV Does this teach that we are all born sinners because of Adam’s sin? Absolutely not! It was the sentence of death, not sin, which spread to all men. Man has not inherited the guilt of Adam’s sin, but the consequences [death] of his sin. The only person that bears the guilt of Adam’s sin is Adam. Read Romans 5:19. “For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.” NKJV If all are made sinners because of Adam, all are made righteous because of Christ. Is every single person who has ever lived saved because of Christ? Of course not! (Matthew 7:13-14) “Enter by the narrow gate: for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.” NKJV Adam introduced sin into the world.
@@kac0404 Acts 10:44 While Peter was still saying these things, ithe Holy Spirit fell on all who heard the word. 45 And the believers from among jthe circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because kthe gift of the Holy Spirit lwas poured out even on the Gentiles. 46 For they were hearing them mspeaking in tongues and extolling God. Then Peter declared, 47 n“Can anyone withhold water for baptizing these people, who have received the Holy Spirit ojust as we have?” 48 And he pcommanded them qto be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to remain for some days. If you knew your Church history and how baptisms worked in the early church, whole households were baptized when the Apostles would be about the work of Christ. It's absolutely ridiculous to assume that the Apostles would go around the room at a house and say, "okay you and you can be baptized, but you and you cannot because you're not old enough to make a "personal decision." That argument would be ludicrous. History tells us that everyone in the home would be baptized, women, children, servant, and relatives who lived and served under that man's roof. By the way, what I wrote was spectacular Biblical theology, not "unnecessary commentary." So, you show me book, chapter, and verse that says literally the words, "(1)infants can't believe, and (2)that infants should be excluded from the blessed sacrament of Holy Baptism." Please?
@revcody And that still doesn't answer my question. All you did is give me more commentary that I didn't ask for. Showing me Acts 10, the household of Cornelius and Holy Spirit Baptism, is not at all answering my question. I'm well aware of the different baptisms in the New Testament. Your claim is that infant baptism exists in the New Testament, and I'm asking you to show me in the Bible. If you stand on your word, then make it factual. If you can't give me book, chapter, and verse as to where infant baptism exists, then that means it doesn't exist.
There is no example of infant baptism under the preaching of the inspired apostles. On Pentecost, they preached the gospel. When those who heard it asked what to do, Peter said, "Repent and be baptized" (Acts 2:38). Infants cannot repent and have no sins to repent of, and hence are not to be baptized. Peter told these people to repent and be baptized "For the remission of sins" (Acts 2:38). Infants need no remission of sins, hence need no baptism. "They that gladly received his word were baptized" (Acts 2:41). Infants do not "Gladly receive the word," and therefore, were not included in the number baptized on Pentecost.
@@kac0404 the Holy inspired Scriptures declare, “The wages of SIN is death…” (Romans 6:23). If infants have no sins, then why has their ever been an infant that has died?!?!?!?!?! Infants in fact do die because they are sinful, regardless of age…newborn, toddler, etc., all die and are therefore in need of saving through the waters of Holy Baptism. Also, no apostle would go into a house and deny baptism to the little children. As a matter of fact, in Mark’s Gospel, Jesus was indignant when the disciples tried to keep His littles from Him. Why? Because the kingdom belongs to such as these!! Thanks for your comments.
@revcody To be baptized, a person must have awareness of his sins and his need for a Savior, repenting of his actions (Acts 2:36-38; Rom. 3:23; 6:23). He must hear the word of God (Matt. 28:18-20; Rom. 1:16; 10:14-17) and believe its testimony that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God (John 20:30-31, Mark 16:16) who died on the cross and was raised from the dead to provide redemption for mankind (John 3:16; Rom. 5:6-10). He must confess this belief publicly (Rom. 10:9, Acts 8:26-40). A baby is incapable of doing these things. A baby taken by his parents to be baptized is not a Christian baby, just a wet baby. An actual baptism has not occurred. Baptizing a baby with the notion of making it a child of God reduces baptism to nothing more than a work. Mere works absent of faith cannot save. Moreover, it is a work performed on an individual by a third party, without his consent, or even his knowledge.
@revcody Are children born sinners? The Bible says no. Do babies inherit a sinful nature? Scripture again says no. Are infants guilty of Adam’s sin? Once again, God’s Word says no. Babies are born pure and innocent, free of any and all sin. They are not old enough to understand the difference between right and wrong so they cannot commit sin and are therefore safe.
@@kac0404 Silly boy! I have one passages that TRUMPS all your questions about children and their sin. King David spoke the words so eloquently, “Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me. (Psalm 51:5)” Also, please answer my question, “if children are not born originally sinful…then why do children die?” If they are innocent and have no sin, THEY WOULD NOT DIE! It would be impossible. You need to go back to your 2-year Baptist Bible College and I’ll stick to my Master’s Degree in Exegetical and Systematic and Historic Theology.
@revcody Boy? Let's get some facts straight. I'm a grown man. You know, by looking at my picture that I'm a black man at that. Now, because your theology is flawed, you have the audacity to call me a boy. That's mighty racist of you.
Baptism for the remission of sins is certainly necessary to salvation (Acts 2:38), and every case of conversion in Acts specifically records that they were baptized. Baptism is the event in which a penitent believer completes the obedience necessary to be saved (see Heb. 5:9). The Scriptures clearly show that baptism stands squarely between the sinner and the forgiveness of sins. But the practice of infant baptism is not authorized in the New Testament. Its origin is with men, not God. And there is no evidence in the New Testament to show that the apostles ever baptized anyone who was too young to hear the gospel, believe it, and repent of his sins.
There is also no text in the New Testament that does not allow infant baptism. Why wouldn't this important issue was being addressed unless it was a non- issue. If there was a benefit of doubt to be given than the infant receives it. Otherwise Ephesians 5:25-27 speaks of what God's action does to one who is dead in his/,her sins, by Christ washing the woman and presenting her to himself -all the work of God.
@samsonsupaka8716 To be baptized, a person must have awareness of his sins and his need for a Savior, repenting of his actions (Acts 2:36-38; Rom. 3:23; 6:23). He must hear the word of God (Matt. 28:18-20; Rom. 1:16; 10:14-17) and believe its testimony that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God (John 20:30-31, Mark 16:16) who died on the cross and was raised from the dead to provide redemption for mankind (John 3:16; Rom. 5:6-10). He must confess this belief publicly (Rom. 10:9, Acts 8:26-40). A baby is incapable of doing these things. A baby taken by his parents to be baptized is not a Christian baby, just a wet baby. An actual baptism has not occurred. Baptizing a baby with the notion of making it a child of God reduces baptism to nothing more than a work. Mere works absent of faith cannot save. Moreover, it is a work performed on an individual by a third party, without his consent, or even his knowledge.
Jesus said, " He that believes and is baptized shall be saved", Mark 16:16, a baby cannot believe. Peter said, " Repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus", a baby cannot repent. Acts 2:38 It says that Saul/Paul persecuted the church dragging out men and women from their homes, a baby is not a man or a woman.
@@DannyLoyd how do you know a baby can’t believe? John the Baptist expressed faith when he leaped in his mothers womb (Luke 1:41). The Greek word used is “Brephos” which means from an embryonic stage. Therefore, babies CAN in fact believe. Plus! Baptism is not man’s work…it’s God’s work. He chooses us in our Baptism not us choosing Him. But if you want to take credit for salvation and not give it to our Lord Christ, you go right ahead and do that. Also, faith is a gift from God! Humans don’t determine faith. Grace is a gift from God just given to us. I don’t have to work for it. I don’t have to believe for it…it’s simply given to me by my gracious and loving God. And, faith comes before repentance. As for Acts 2:38, faith preceeds any kind of repentance, because repentance is an act of faith. Not to mention also, that children are included in the words “all nations” in Matthew 28:19. The Christian Church on earth has been baptizing babies since it’s inception. It wasn’t until the time of the Reformation that they started baptizing adults or baptizing individuals. Acts 2:38-39, for the promise is for you and your “children” and for all whom the Lord our God will call to Himself. God is the One who calls, gathers, and enlightens His people. Bottom line…stop taking credit for the “save” it belongs to Christ and Him alone! Who are you to say that God can’t save His little children. Be careful before you start answering for God in the future! Finally the last argument you mention about St Paul dragging people out of their homes as an argument against infant baptism is simply balderdash!!
Infant baptism is not biblical, nor is by sprinking or by pouring of water. You must first believe before you can get baptised. This luthern explination was horrible and unuseful. There is no reason to do infant baptism, its what the catholics do. Think about it....
@@Providence7 I totally agree .
Thank you and God bless.
Nice. Thank you
There’s a great book with major source material that gives a concise history, with all the dates, of the history of the Roman Catholic Church. Every little detailed outlined with exact dates and names and actions. It’s Halley’s Bible Handbook. I have the 1965 edition and from page 757-804 it is loaded with full precise details of truths we never seem to hear about. Hmm. Well anyway, enjoy!
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As a former evangelical and now a Lutheran, I equate baptism with two common things we do all the time. We give infants our last name making them a part of our family without their understanding or permission. We do the same with medicine; when they are sick we squirt medicine into their mouths even though they have no idea what is being done to them. The latter comparison shows that the medicine doesn't work because someone believes it will help; it works simply because it does what it is supposed to do
Beautifully said!
No one Christian has ever truly believed since they all continue to sin even after making a decision for Jesus. Does that mean they lied when they claimed to have accepted Jesus? Because all borne of God do not sin. I agree with the pastor here, our baptism is a one sided act of God so that my sealing remains intact in my life in the church where it is safe.
Please give some more verses as a prof that Infant Baptism is necessary.
OIKOS covenant baptism is the standard
@@mushtaqmasieh4162 They can't give any scripture because infant baptism is false doctrine.
He can't because they don't exist.
@kac0404 baptism is necessary for all... do you deny the necessity of baptism ??
@bigtobacco1098 He's talking about infant baptism. Show is in the New Testament where the baptism of infants exist. Give book, chapter, and verse to support your answer. No opinions or long unnecessary commentary needed.
Infant baptism is an act of obedience done by the parent on behalf of the infant. The idea would be that the parent would raise the child up in church and instruct them fully in the faith. This derives from more of a groupish mindset, as present in those early eastern societies. Confirmation is actually something else done later (13 or older) which would allow for a person baptized as an infant to make their own statement of faith. That being said, I do see the potential experiential advantage of a person remembering and asking for their own baptism. But I believe both forms of baptism are legitimate, and both forms of baptism were present in the early church. Something though to consider that’s a practical point in favor of infant baptism. The unbaptized cannot (or should not be allowed to) take communion. We may only be made worthy of the body and blood of Christ by participating in His death and resurrection through baptism (Paul says communion must not be taken in an unworthy manner). So someone baptized as a kid could take communion while an unbaptized kid would have to wait.
I bet these same people don't question why the foreskin was cut on the 8th day.
Baptists barely believe in sacraments anyways
This commentator is likely a LCMS minister. In the ELCA, a baptised member has the opportunity to affirm the baptism. After 2-3 years of instruction, a 14 or 15 year old member affirms the baptism through the rite of confirmation. It is also known as affirmation of baptism.
The answer to your question is...because you misunderstand scripture!
Ummmm, nope! Don’t think so! Thanks for watching though! The Lord be with you!
When an infant is born in the United States, that infant is a citizen, not by his own will, but by decree of our constitution. He doesn't even know it or what it means for him, but that infant is a full citizen regardless. When an infant is born, we don't wait until he can comprehend and tell him "choose your name," but the parents immediately name him and bring that infant into the family by name. This is why we baptize infants. God is claiming that child as part of His kingdom and full citizenship in His kingdom, and God is giving that child a new name that is with him forever.
You disagree because you think Baptism is your work and not God’s work in our lives. I must say, you’re making a mighty bold assertion there!
@@revcody At least, by that admission, you state there is no scriptural support for the action. I don't care if you sprinkle water on a baby's head, just please don't infer it has any scriptural merit. It doesn't!
@@revcody I disagree because your interpretation of scripture is fundamentally flawed. There is ZERO scriptural support for infant baptism An infant cannot repent. An infant cannot believe in the Christ An infant cannot pray to receive the Holy Spirit Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. John 16:24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full. Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judæa, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Mark 1:8 (quoting John the Baptist) I indeed baptized you with water, but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit. Acts 1:5 Jesus talking ; 5 for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.” Matthew 3: 11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.
How did the early church get this wrong so quickly
@@bigtobacco1098 you are asking the wrong person. I don’t know much about the early church.
@@himynameisjohnwumsh7631 Jesus started his church...
@@bigtobacco1098 Jesus is the chief cornerstone…
@himynameisjohnwumsh7631 yes... and??
Can you make the handout downloadable?
Yes I’ll post it up shortly! Thanks!
The existence of the non-elect renders your argument dead. If baptism is really showcasing this "unilateral" covenant that God is going to uphold and a non-elect baby is baptized then this is a contradiction. It is clear from scripture, those that are saved are those who God predestined or elected to salvation before the foundation of the world. Unless God has elected every person to salvation (which scripture clearly teaches that He hasn't; see Romans 9:11-13, for example), there remains the contradiction that God will enter into a "unilateral" contract with a person at birth, that He has not elected for salvation.
This is wacky. So why baptize anyone, since we don’t know who the Calvinist elect are? God will do whatever He wills, and baptism wouldn’t have anything to do with it. (Which flies in the face of Scripture) What’s funny is Calvinism proves out universalism: 1. God truly loves all persons. 2. Not all persons will be saved. 3. Truly to love someone is to desire their well-being and to promote their true flourishing as much as you properly can. 4. The well-being and true flourishing of all persons is to be found in a right relationship with God, a saving relationship in which we love and obey him. 5. God could give all persons “irresistible grace” and thereby determine all persons to freely accept a right relationship with himself and be saved. 6. Therefore, all persons will be saved.
Mark 16:16
That verse is not applied to infants.
@@kac0404 Infants cannot believe. That is a requirement of the verse.
@@kevinschultz2243 You're right. Thank you.
Paul says that Christ did not send him to baptize, but to preach the Gospel, water baptism is part of Israel's prophetic program, and not for the Body of Christ today in the dispensation of grace, for today spiritual baptism when one believes in the Gospel of Grace is sealed with the Holy Spirit for the day of redemption, therefore one must learn to properly separate the Word of Truth in Letter 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV
Then why did Paul baptize? Acts 18 shows the Corinthians were baptized by Paul. Why does Paul say in 1 Cor 1 that in order to belong to Christ, he had to be crucified for you and you have to be baptized into his name. It is a not/but statement, like in Joh when Jesus says, " Those who believe in me, believe not in me, but on him who sent me", so does that mean we do not believe in Jesus? or is he saying that those who believe in him, believe not in him only, but also the one who sent him? Christ sent me not to baptize only, but also to preach the gospel or else, tell us why he did baptize?
OIKOS covenant
The Law is a bilateral covenant.
@mysticmouse the Law is not a covenant…it’s the Law!
@@revcody huh? It's called the old covenant as opposed to the new one which is the Gospel.
@mysticmouse7261 the old covenant is circumcision…the new covenant is Baptism!!
@@revcody the Jewish covenant is bilateral
Amen!
Sola gratia, sola fide. Praise be to God. Amen!
Amen!
And what is the promise: the forgiveness of original sin.
Yes! The promise is forgiveness of sins (both original and actual) (Acts 2:38-39). "For the forgiveness of your sins...for the promise is for 'you and your children'." Also, the promise that "baptism now saves you" (1 Peter 3:21) Also, the promise and guarantee of our inheritance comes through baptism as well (Eph. 1:13-14). We were given the Holy Spirit in our Holy Baptism (Acts 2:38-39), who is the "seal and guarantee" of our salvation or inheritance now, but not yet, which will be fully realized in heaven. So many promises come to us in and through Holy Baptism, and the GOOD NEWS is that is is for everyone...regardless of age...because Baptism and faith are God's gifts to us...not our gifts to God. Holy Baptism is God's act of choosing us to be His children...not our act of choosing Him to be our God.
@johnmann1336 Infants and young children are sinless and safe from condemnation. Because of their innocence, Jesus says about them: “for of such is the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 19:14). If a baby or young child dies, he will be guaranteed a home in Heaven. Baptism is not for small children since they are born free of sin. Besides, they are not mature enough to fully comprehend truth and what is required of those who need to be baptized. When an adolescent child matures to the point of being able to understand the moral consequences of right and wrong and does wrong, he has committed sin and thus, like adults, needs salvation through Christ. In Romans 7:9, I believe Paul speaks of that in his own life when innocence ended and he began to fail in his responsibility to obey God’s commandments.
@@kac0404 Psalm 51
@johnmann1336 That entire Psalm is a humble prayer for forgiveness. And I hope that going over it like that helps to dispel some of the confusion over verse 5. No one is born in sin. No one is guilty of sin when they’re conceived. God doesn’t desire sin in our innermost parts. God desires truth, and righteousness in our inward spirit. And so that’s exactly how He starts us out. We are all born just as true and righteous as can be.
The word rightly preached. Amen.
Very well said. Thank you.
Why is No One Talking About... The individual who has put his trust in Jesus Christ as his Savior is in personal fellowship with Him all the time. . If you believe the Bible is the inspired word of God, then you must believe in Gods scriptures, not your pastor (religion) Jeremiah 23:23 The problem with God is not that He's so far away that we can't see Him. Rather, He is so close that we overlook Him. That means, you can have an Conversation with GOD anytime anywhere . The eternal purpose of God in Jesus Christ is to give us this new relationship with God (John 3:16; 6:37, 39; 2 Corinthians 5:14-21). 1Corinthians 3:16-20 Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and you are that temple. Not only will you need this information for yourself, but you will want to share this with others Who To Believe, GOD or Your Preacher ?
Friend.. What is your point? Were you trying to make a point with your comment? Are you trying to tell me that infant baptism is no good? Are you suggesting the Lutheran pastor who baptized me when I was a baby, was a liar and deceived me? Yet, look... Behold... I am an old man now and my infant baptism is valid. In no way do I need to be baptized again. If you even dare to suggest I need to be baptized again, then you commit the unforgivable sin. I know my baptism is valid and working, I know I received the gift. If you will suggest otherwise then you are indeed guilty of blasphemy of the Spirit. So, were you trying to say something one way or the other with your comment?
I disagree with infant baptism. I don’t think the adoption analogy helps. Anyone should be old enough to be able to consent to their own baptism. It’s not necessary to baptise infants. Everyone should have the freedom to choose.
When an infant is born in the United States, that infant is a citizen, not by his own will, but by decree of our constitution. He doesn't even know it or what it means for him, but that infant is a full citizen regardless. When an infant is born, we don't wait until he can comprehend and tell him "choose your name," but the parents immediately name him and bring that infant into the family by name. This is why we baptize infants. God is claiming that child as part of His kingdom and full citizenship in His kingdom, and God is giving that child a new name that is with him forever.
@@evangelicalcatholicsthat is a great apologetic I’m going to use that
You just sealed the win for the alphabet movement. Well done.
If an adult wants to honour the baptism done in infancy he can do so. If he wants to leave Christ and follow his own desires he can do so. As parents they have done their duties in bringing the child to Christ!
@@mossadagent9582 And hopefully the parents/sponsors and the congregation nurtured that child's faith from baptism to adulthood so he doesn't leave the faith. This is a BIG issue in churches these days, parents not teaching/catechizing at home.
So God is saving the infant because YOU have declared them a child of God? Isn't that for God to do through faith and the baptism of the holy spirit?
Yes, but faith isn't some work we do for God. Faith is a gift FROM God. Faith isn't about will or understanding/comprehension. Otherwise Paul would have said, "saved by grace through understanding." That's not what he said.
Amen
Remeber when the children wanted to come to Jesus but their parents stopped them? What did Jesus said? "Let the children come to me"
Very solid, much appreciated pastor. And John chapter 1 says Jesus Christ is the light that lights every man that comes into the world. I love the contract/covenant understanding. Also the old covenant of circumcision was commanded for infants. The fact that the New testament is not explicit on this speaks volumes for infant baptism.
@philipjohnson1546 thanks for the comment! The Bible is silent on the issue of age for a reason….because baptism is not about the age or the faith of the recipient, but baptism is exclusively about the “promise and command” of Jesus to “do it!” We offer baptism at all ages because the “promise” is for “you and your children.” Evangelicals use age to make it a work of man and rob Christ of the “promises” given in Holy Baptism, because they don’t believe there are any spiritual benefits that come with baptism. It means nothing to them so they/Baptist/Evangelicals withhold Baptism till later. (Rev. Rick Cody)
I always default to “solo escritura.” If there is no example of a child baptism or a teaching of it from Christ/apostles, then it falls into that “gray area” and it shouldn’t be categorized into doctrine but rather, dogma. When in doubt…stick to scripture, it can’t go wrong.
Knowledge of history also helps to understand things. For instance, when Gentile families wanted to become proselytes, they were baptized because they needed to pass through water, like the jewish ancestors did crossing the Jordan. You can learn more about this from the book: Infant Baptism, in the first four Centuries, by Joachim Jeremias. Fyi, it's not an easy reading book. The New Testament shows us missionary work, unbelievers becoming believers. When a family became Christians, the head of the family, usually the father, spoke on behalf of the family, and the family was baptized. Because of the Apostles being familiar with the jewish practice of baptizing proselytes (individuals & families), there was no need to spell out specifically about baptizing infants. Also, Paul mentions not only things we are to do but also things that should not be done. If infant baptism is supposedly so heretical, Paul would have mentioned it. Lastly, we can do nothing to earn our salvation and the Bible clearly teaches in multiple places that baptism saves (see 1 Peter 3:21, & Mark 16:16) and of course Christ telling us that that which is born of the flesh needs to be born of the Spirit to see heaven in John 3:2-7. Infants need to be born again. Also the Bible says in Romans 6:23 "the wages of sin is death", and since there have been infants that have died, it proves original sin exists and the need for infants sins to be washed away in the waters of baptism. Hope these examples help. Blessings to you in Christ. Amen. 🙏🏻
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Was the question of why Lutherans perform infant baptism actually answered? What are you saying that the purpose of baptism is?
@millionairemafia9610 yes! The question was answered. Infants are to be baptized because they are included in the words and promises of Christ when He said “Go and baptize and teach ALL NATIONS of which infants and children are included. Acts 2:38-39, “the promise is for you and your children.” We Baptize because of the promise of Christ and His command to do so. The purpose of Baptism is for God to do His redeeming work through the washing of the Word and through the Holy Spirit to connect that child to the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, adopting that child into the family of faith. Titus 3:5-7, Romans 6, Ephesians 1. Remember, Baptism is God’s work…not ours. Finally, remember this, Jesus won’t let you be your own Savior!! Jesus gets credit for the “save!” Not us!
@revcody are you saying that baptism saves? How would an infant have faith? All nations doesn't literally mean every single person in the world (although that would be awesome). Forcing every person in the world to get baptized would be pointless. I'm also confused about how baptism is covenantal, and where that is coming from, because the New Covenant is grace through faith, not law; there is nothing about baptism being part of the New Covenant. Baptism is absolutely something a Christian is commanded to do as an outward proclamation of an inward working of the Holy Spirit and as a profession of our faith in Jesus. However, it is symbolic only. Anyone (not just infants) who is baptized outside of a profession of faith is just getting dunked in water.
Acts 8:12: “But when they believed Philip, who was declaring the good news of the Kingdom of God, and of the name of Jesus Christ, both MEN AND WOMEN were getting baptized.” Here the Scriptural record clearly specifies that the ones baptized were, NOT infants, but “Men and Women.” Infant baptism is not compatible with the Scriptures. The Bible teaches that a person who wants to get baptized must meet certain requirements. For example, he should understand at least the basic teachings of God’s Word and be living in harmony with those teachings. He had repented of his sins; and through prayer he has dedicated his life to God. (Acts 2:38,41) Infants aren’t able to do these things. And the Bible tells us at 1 Corinthians 7:14 that God views very young children as holy, or clean in his eyes because of the parents good standing with God. Babies wouldn’t need to have the merit of the believing parent extended to them if infant baptism was that necessary.
@@millionairemafia9610 Friend, you should read your Bible more. Why would you ask "how would an infant have faith"? Sir, can I ask you a question? Why were infants circumcised? Why not wait till they were adults and then ask them if they want to be circumcised? If you read the Bible, Baptism is compared to circumcision. So, how is baptism, in your mind, not part of the new covenant? Was circumcision not part of an old covenant??? By your logic, shouldn't Naaman have gone in to the Jordan a dry leper, and emerged a wet leper? Think about that please. You appear to be preaching work based salvation. More importantly, to deny infant baptism is to blaspheme the Spirit. Now, I was baptized as a baby. I received the gift of the Holy Spirit. So if you dare say to me, that I must be baptized again. You are guilty of the unforgivable sin. This is a hard thing to say but it is the truth. So what are you saying? Are you blaspheming the Holy Spirit? It seems like you have committed the unforgivable sin. What's next?
@@SDJ992-q9t Stop lying. You are guilty of the unforgivable sin. You went too far. Who do you think you are to tell me my baptism is invalid? Get over yourslf, demoniac.
Well god said i could have my grandkids and government came in with some b.s. he gave me the covenant. He gave them a sign with the tempest to prove it.
No crap. Why cant a 6 year old get baptized if infants can? i look at it for protection until they are old enough to understand. we need like a promise. A sign you ask god for ultimate protection over your loved one.
I was baptized as an infant and have been a strong believer since a very young child. I am assured of my salvation. Lately I have been wondering if I should do an adult baptism? I have been reluctant because I am already dedicated to my Lord and Savior. My confirmation is my public announcement of my dedication and belief. Thank you for sharing. God bless
@carrikartes1403 I would strongly advise not to be "re-baptized" as it is completly unnecessary as your first baptism was sufficient. If you were baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and with the Word of God and having used water, your baptism is valid and good. Remember, Holy Baptism is God's work, not ours, so if He adopted you, marked you, and wrote your name in the Lamb's book of life, you are His and He is yours! Don't listen to others who say you must be baptized as an adult because you couldn't "believe" as a child, as that is complete foolishness. I appreciate you from dropping into my channel and hope you were enriched by the video! The Lord be wtih you!
@@revcody I was happy to find your video. It gave me good direction with my question. I don't believe it would be wrong to do an adult baptism but rather superfluous. I think if I did it now it would be an appeal to vanity and religiosity piety. I just want to please God and was thinking about Jesus' baptism. He certainly did not "need" to be baptized but rather the purpose a formal declaration of His ministry. Lutheran confirmation is my formal declaration. I do like the adoption analogy you used. Thank you. It helped clear up my prayer question.
You were accepted in the church on the basis of your Baptism, so you ought to accept that basis as valid. People accepted you as a Christian, not a potential Christian. And, they accepted you as a Christian, not because of your parents, but because you were baptized. So, respect your Baptism and acknowledge it and the gifts that were given there.
Being re-baptized would be a mistake. That should be a sign of unbelief, lack of faith... Would you be giving in to pressure? Because of what humans tell you. With their philosophy and deceit. I was baptized as an infant and would never even consider being re-baptized. I would also take great offence at people who say infant baptism is not sufficient. Anyone speaking against infant baptism, they are blaspheming the Spirit. The unforgivable sin.
@@br.m I came to the conclusion also. I prayed about and felt that God said it would not be a sin but that I would be doing it for vanity. It would not be done to please Him. So I no longer consider it. I only want to please Him. Not look good in others eyes. God bless thank you for your comment.
The denomination has fallen from grace.