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Thanks Eliza!

I Agree, its got some really good tracks. For me, its like 2-3 tracks away from a classic though.

Hey, not sure if you saw my scoring system but 62/100 is considered 'Good which is 60-69. I use a wider range to allow more room inside them for a lot of albums to be rated and ranked. (See note section). I hear you though. There is some of OMD "catchiness' or pop sound that I probably underappreciate. I don't find their albums very consistent although I like a lot of their songs. But generally, I always like about 50% to 75% of their albums. 25% - 50% brings it down to about good for me on average. I rated Organization a 70/100. I haven't done Dazzle Ships but I imagine that ones going to be in the 78-83 range. Probably my favorite. What do you think I'm specifically missing? Do you feel that you are being subjective on the weaker tracks? Thanks for the comment! Its just an opinion :)

Hey Raytek, Welcome

Thanks buddy. We would get along swell with our 80s influences I imagine

Thankyou! Nice work on this record. I should of looked at the grooves and saw the 5th track. I had just looked at the promo sheet tracklist.

Thank you Milly. Great work on this record. More please! You are becoming the dub techno queen the scene and sound needs!

@@ElectricCafe-45 Many thanks, too kind. 😄🙏♥

Agreed! My death metal friend laughed as I read this to him

Thank you Rima! I have been a big follower of the dub techno genre since the late 90s and all the way through the cologne sound of the early 2000s. I was a fan of your husband before I started working with you both. before he started Greyscale or Redscale. I have around 10,000 cds and about 10,000 vinyl. Around 1,000 cassettes also. I love your idea of doing a format video and what they mean to me and my history with them. That's a great idea! My 2nd bedroom is the room I do my videos in and that's my CD room. My vinyl is in the living room as they take up more space. lol Keep up the great work with your photography. Someday, it would be great to blow up your pictures to a bigger size for walls. Ever thought of having a photography showing/exhibit of your work? It would be great. You know Alex would have the music for it ;) Thank you for the kind words Rima and thank you for allowing me to be a small part of your label.

Its really good indeed. Noosa does some awesome fx on his tracks. He is very much into some more unique ways of getting sounds. He explained some of his technics. Pretty extensive. Hes working on some music for my sublabel. I emailed him right after I heard this remix and did this video. I definitely had to compliment his remix. Thanks for your comment!

Love me some Grace Jones. I also have that on vinyl. Please mail me if you like for more info on doing a review on it. timhumphrey45@hotmail.com

Yesssss Synergy was very important for my youth

I'm sure we would have a lot of great music in common with each other! Thank you for the post . Respect discoveryrecords1.bandcamp.com/ rediscoveryrecords.bandcamp.com/ These are my 2 labels. If you like any music on here, message me through bandcamp and I will give you free downloads. Its mostly 90s ambient, techno, chill out etc.

Nice. I have long been a fan of Robert Fripp ambient involved work and some of King Crimson. Thanks for this!

@ 😊😊😊 God Bless. I look forward to more future music content on your video channel.

Thank you man. God Bless you too.

Thanks for the comment. I appreciate it. Let me answer your comment. I am pretty familiar with Bananarama since they came out until True Confessions. And with Fun Boy Three. Their 1982 - 1986 period, I have a couple of singles and the 3 albums from that period. My sister got me into them when I was very young. I do not know their period after. I only knew the 2 singles from Shakespears Sister Hormonally Yours album from this part of her career.. Just want you to know my experience with her which isn't a lot. I think I do "put myself" in the time frame of when it was made. In the review I talk about the production a lot and Alan Moulder's work with this album. 45/100 score on my system is 'below par' or 'not very good' and just under 'ok'. I dont find the album bad or horrible. And I did find a few songs I liked very music. I just felt although she has a good and interesting voice that they dont really know the direction her voice works well with. Which I think they found in Stay. The songs are all over the place on Sacred Heart. I do find a good amount of them catchy. I rated 6 of the 13 songs as good or at least 2 stars. So I like half the album. The other half ? I wish it was more sophisticated like you spoke about. There are tracks that verge into that for me and there is a lot of potential. The dance tracks - im not sure they work and there a few more that it just sounds like they are trying her voice on different styles. That one near the end almost sounds country. A reggae cover in there too. Just doesnt seem like a cohesive album. A few years ago I did watch the Bananarama documentary with Stock, Aitken and Waterman. Its a British made documentary. It does suck how they were viewed in the press. I have never thought they were cheesy or not talented. They often make my 80s night DJing. I wanted to like it more. Hopefully someone soon will get me to review Hormonally Yours. I am curious for that follow up. Thanks for your comment btw. Its only an opinion. I am happy you like it so much. Hopefully you will agree with some of my other scores/reviews. Cheers.

"Personally, I think your review is generally how many Americans view this kind of particular brand of British Pop music." You might be right here. I grant you that. I generally like more new wave than pop music. I do like Lisa Stansfield, Simply Red, Alison Moyet and maybe some others that are sort of in this vein. What other artists would you consider pop music around 1985-1989 in Britain? Funny enough, sometimes I review British artists from the 80s and have mentioned how strange it is they have some success and had very little in their home country of UK. I mentioned this on my Fixx and Naked Eyes videos.. Strangely those didnt do well at all in UK. I think the UK press was pretty rough on many 80s bands like Depeche Mode. Bands that had a darker side especially. In America Bananarama was considered a dance act. Because of I heard a Rumour, Robert Deniro's waiting and Venus. Which was unfair toward them and other all girl bands. Female freestyle and dance artists were very big in 1984-1989. Madonna, Miami Sound Machine, Janet Jackson, Jody Watley, Taylor Dayne, Cathy Denis, Expose, Lisa Lisa & the Cult Jam, Sheena Easton, Belinda Carlisle, Debbie Gibson, Debbie Deb, Trinere and many, many more.

@@ElectricCafe-45 1985-1989 in Britain? ( Some of these Acts may really be considered Rock Acts, but I mention them here because they did some very great British Pop Music of this period). Erasure, Tears For Fears, Toyah, Alison Moyet ( coming out of her venture with Vince Clarke/Yazzo, and the starting of her Solo Career),Duran Duran, Kim Wilde and Wham. I am surprised that Robert De Niro is considered more of a dance track in the US, because in the UK It is considered as just one of Bananarama’s very best tracks of the earlier part of their career. I don’t know if the US had Robert De Niro in the remixed version, perhaps ( maybe) that is why it’s considered more of a dance track over there. I don’t know. Depeche Mode were lucking to garner US fans very early in their career. Vince Clark was there for their debut album Speak and Spell, but left after the album was made, where he formed Yazzo with Alison Moyet. They brought in Alan Wilder, who was the real sound architect for the band. This was something he never got true credit for in the band. In fact, many believe this was the reason he left the band, after they recorded the album: Songs of Faith and Devotion. So when Alan Wilder came into the group, they made this conscious decision as a group that they would completely turn away from the pop elements of their debut album, and go for a more darker indie-pop route direction. Which was a decision here that really saved the future of their music career. This decision here alone ( further down the line) would give the band enormous respect in the United States. But in the period of the mid 1980s, they were coming out with songs and albums so quickly. Each album getting better and better, The US, just could not ignore this group. They released Music for the Masses Album, that got the group a hell of a lot of promotion in the United States, and was the launching pad for Violator and the incredible success that album would garner for the group. Yeah …you’re right about the press with UK Bands. In particular in the UK….The NME ( music newspaper) could be very cruel in particular to British Pop Groups in this time period.

I also think that in the US in this time period, you had a production duo like Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis who were dominating the Black-American Pop-Dance scene, in so much of a way, that eventually white pop acts would be influenced by this production sound into their own music. The productions of Jimmy Jam and Lewis, merging with the beats and rhythms that were also coming out of Black-American Hip-Hop music genre, just could not be ignored by Groups of ALL Music Genres in the United States in this time period.

All these music dimensions that were happening in the US in this time period , would also be a very big influence on UK music acts going into the 1990s, as well as the Noughties as well.

Regurgitating baby gibblets!! grrr

Hahaha

Ya its a rough album for sure. I had to put it 'below par' or not very good. Even with a 5 star track in it with Bizarre Love Triangle, I couldn't get it to ok. I honestly think they turned it into a joke. Hence the giggles and clunky songs. I dont think I gave any track over a 2 3/4 beside Bizarre. My favorite version is the one on Substance which I think is the 12" version on the maxi. i think. I honestly think they were pressured into making it.

Much appreciated!

I know right?! I feel bad for saying the album in OK. I want to like them as I have liked other work they have done. I am going through their catalog and started with that one. I'm sure I will like others more. Question for you. Do you think they are better at EBM or new wave or do you think they have evolved somewhat to more of a darkwave/dance sound than the EBM they started with on this album? What would you rate Anguish?

@@ElectricCafe-45 I much prefer their older music, I find their newer albums bodypop (se) and tanzomat really boring. Anguish definitely isn't their best but I still enjoy it, I'd give it 68/100. I just can't give any of And Ones early music an ok.

I got ya. I appreciate you telling me. I'm interested to hear their career progress. I could see myself probably giving it a similar score as you perhaps if I first heard it in 1991 and then it had more time to grow on me. I will definitely acknowledge that. What is your favorite album you think?

btw is there any EBM, industrial or goth bands I may have forgotten so far to look into? So far I have touched on Skinny Puppy, Front 242, FLA, Ministry, Covenant, Camouflage, And One, Cetu Javu, Borghesia, Cabaret Voltaire, Clock DVA, Chris & Cosey, Manufacture, MOEV, NIN, Severed Heads, Death In June, Sisters of Mercy, DAF...

@@ElectricCafe-45 Picking a favourite is hard... I'd have to say flop! but I also really like 9.9.99 9 Uhr. Most of their albums are really good so its hard to choose lol

Ya you might be right. It was sort of grunge thing too. I think it got popular and you could get them in Pac Sun in the malls... lol

DJ Spooky as well!

Thanks John :)

Thank you! Sign of Ages?! Nice one. I have that one. I do like many releases around that period especially. Biosphere is also excellent. I did an overview of them here but I have yet to do an album review on them. I am doing albums mostly from the 70s, 80s and up till about 1992. I wil start doing later 90s through now sometime later this year or next year. I turn 50 next year. I was thinking I would do albums from my first 25 years for a year or 2 then start on my last 25 years 2001-2026.Incorporating more techno and other styles of electronic music as we go... I did do one on a Bel Canto one from 1992 so far. He was in them before Biosphere if you dont know. A band worth checking out! Bel Canto. Thanks for the comment! th-cam.com/video/qxJNSA5BLlU/w-d-xo.html

Banderas is a really good one thank you. I really like "This is yoru life" but I dont know any other.

Ya he remixed Everyrhing Counts in 1989 so that's where I first heard his name. He also remixed Eurythmics and I think Modern English. But ya hes more know for heavier stuff. And shoegaze. It's strange but I have reviewed a handful of albums hes been involved with. Jesus and the mary chain, NIn, Curve (which I felt he had the most impact on), Ride and My Bloody Valentine. And Shakespeare sister. Looks like he was involved in their 2nd album and may have remixed Stay and I Dont Care. I did notice he did soemthing with Banderas too. This Shakespears Sister album kind of confirmed by thoughts on the Curve album. I felt their beats were often being too aggressive for Toni Hallidays voice also at times. Which is kind of a sign of the time in the early 90s when many bands were trying to take alternative rock music and blend it more with heavier beats.

Btw. It says Alan mixed and engineered Sacred Heart. I bet he had more influence on the beats though. The other member is Fahey of the band and she is a guitar player. So someone made all these dance beats on this album. There is a handful of different people on it though listed as "engineered'. Like 6 of them...

@@rediscoveryrecords1348 Amazing! He also engineered Erasure's Crackers International and the debut album by The Sundays that you already reviewed. And ironically, the single Stay is 33 years old today (Jan 13th).

Nice. I forgot about the Sundays album. I didnt even know he was involved in so many bands in those days till I started doing these videos. Right now, hes ahead of Flood for name checked in more videos lol

@@ElectricCafe-45 I can see my comments disappeared from TH-cam but at least you received them. I had to repost some comments in the past, dunno why TH-cam keeps deleting them. Thank you.

Thanks for correcting me. I couldnt think of More than This and Kiss and Tell. I did forget to say this was the first recording since Bryan's mother passing away. So maybe he added it for her. So I feel a little bad about not bringing that up - or being understanding that could be a reason. In some ways that song prevented my score from being in the 70s. I should probably put the about 70/100

Good points. I appreciate your thoughts. I can see your point about longer albums versus shorter ones if they have the song average for the album. I definitely consider the cohesiveness of albums when it comes to length. But I think if the songs are rated it helps me have a better idea of where I want to place the album score. I will keep that in mind though. Its a good thought, I will see if there is an upcoming album review where I do feel it makes a difference. As I am rating these New/ambient/Experimental albums this month, some of them I am not rating songs because it doesnt seem to help all the time. Depends on the album/songs length. I guess I feel with ambient albums its more about the overall opinion even more so that individual songs. I like your thoughts on a more consistent album being possibly ranked higher than ones with highs and more lows. I think people dont keep that in mind. I rated Wild by Erasure kind of low. Even surprising myself because there are some good tracks on it. But thats why I alike rating the songs because it reminds me about each track and how it relates to properly scoring it as a whole. I agree with ranking some albums higher than other from different times.It makes it hard. I feel like it helps if I was there when they were released. With DM, I go back to Construction Time Again. I can imagine if I was new to DM trying to rank 40 years worth of music to each other that it would have a hard time being fair. I will be the first one to say my system is perfect.. I can always make it better and try to as this channel continues. Thanks again for your thoughts!

@@ElectricCafe-45 thanks for the fast feedback! I'm actually in a situation like this right now because despite liking DM for 30+ years (my first album was a compilation of Singles 81-85 that I didn't even buy but recorded from TV) I never owned a single studio album by them. I only purchased a few compilations in the last 3 years, and my favorite album Black Celebration this week. I knew all the singles but I'm going back to hear and compare the album tracks. As I commented earlier, Condemnation was the turning point for my interest in the band's music. Barrel Of A Gun and I Feel Loved were the last nails in the coffin. Then I heard Precious and Wrong and Heaven and Where's The Revolution and I got a new hope. Since Andy died, I've been playing the whole back catalogue and rediscovering 40+ of the albums I never really knew. This is what I think makes me impartial compared to older fans who were there during the imperial era. I tend to trust younger fans more because they see each album anew with a 2020s vision and are not affected by the memories from the 80s. We probably disagree on this but I find it especially helpful for myself when I rate bands who stopped playing before I knew they had existed.

Your rating system is the most detailed so far which has probably caught my attention in the first place. I saw a few other reviewers doing the same with even more granularity in the decimals but those were mostly rock and metal reviews which I find less relevant. I also appreciate the fact that even the most favorite albums don't automatically get a 90+ score. I have yet to see a review where you rate an album below 30/100.

:) I could do an entire 2 hour rant video about what I dont like about DM. :)

Thank you for this comment.I generally am reviewing things I have. Or at least, albums from artists I have other stuff by or music by bands in genres I like but haven't checked out certain albums. Or ones that passed me by but I wouldnt mind checking out. LIke Shakespear's Sister debut album I did this week. I have heard a lot of music in the genres I like but I am always open to liking something I havent heard but might even know I wont like much by. But I'm happy if i can fine 2 3/5 rated tracks out of 10. Thats 2 songs I didnt enjoy before. I always want to learn more. And learning knew bands or albums in the 70s, 80s and 90s is getting much more rare. So if I find one or remember one I dont know or an album I didnt hear, Im probably gonna review it. I try to review 1 or 2 albums out of every 20 reviews of new to me albums. I want to keep it fresh. So I doubt you will see many below 30 as I feel like I have an idea of what I like. I am starting a service if people want to pay me to review a song or an album So it could get interesting. But I want people to email me first because I'm not reviewing the normal stuff. I want them to know I wont be doing certain music if I think I know I wont really like it. I dont want to make people mad. Eventually, I would like people that are newer electronic producers look for my opinion. That would be ideal. Plus I might be able to help them find a label if its music I really like. But it should be interesting if people want to pay me to review something. I also wont be playing the song or the album unless they have the copyrights to it. I dont want to get into the copyrights drama on youtube can ge videos deleted. It will get worse for those who do have videos up with copyright videos playing. So hopefully if people want me to review they understand that. I have my email up as part of my first 10 seconds of each video coming up this week. Should be interesting ;)

I also prefer the 87 remix of I want a dog. I have the cd single of Rent and its on that. The short remix on How can i expect to be take seriously is pretty cool too. Or is it the Where the streets have no name? its on the maxi single. 4:05 Techno remix is what its called anyways.I havent heard Disco 3 and 4. I stopped by PSB after the horrible Nightlife album singles and remixes. I have only heard 2 oe 3 albums after Home. So I guess that would be almost half of them anyways. :) Agreed on the remixes on Introspective.

@ElectricCafe-45 I find the trilogy of albums made in 2009-2013 their second best era. My current top 5 is Very Yes Electric Please Behaviour but the latter 3 spots here can be rearranged because they are too different to compare. Super, Nonetheless and Nightlife made my bottom 3 but I need to keep playing the new album longer. It totally sucked on the first 4 or 5 attempts. Hotspot was pretty good, I don't understand all the hate...

@ElectricCafe-45 I rank Actually outside my top 5 because Hit Music is just a filler (all the b-sides were superior) and I wasn't a big fan of One More Chance, Heart (silly song with no real chorus) and Shopping (the title spelling in the chorus reminds me of all the cheese in the later hits by Chumbawamba (Shhh!) and Link & Bikini (Kissing).

I have Yes and its probably my favorite after Very. Nonetheless is really bad from the singles I have heard. I havent heard Super, Electric or Hotspot. Elysium was the last one I heard all the way through

I can see your point on Actually's songs very much. I'm not a huge fan of Heart. Shopping is kind of clever. Its kind of like a dancey Rent. One More Chance is kind of powerful. I like it as a an opener. Hit music is the weakest for sure. Ya, those B-sdies should of been included. So many good ones. Alternative could be the best package of PSB ever.

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New Grass and After The Flood are also my favorite 2.

Agreed on My Joy should have been on the album. Instead of Mercy In You. The order of your favs on here is similar to mine. Although, I have Rush higher.

I agree Elemental is better. I just think besides Woman in Chains and Advice For the Young of Heart, the album songs are pretty poor. The album is recorded very well for sure.

Hey. I forgot about Sexuality. I was comparing the tracklists of Two Ring Circus and Circus. Completely forgot to include it. If I included it, the album would have dropped to around 68/100 I think. It isnt a good track I agree. I'm surprised you don't like 'Leave me to Bleed'. I dont have the connection to Innocents as you do. I had the singles and know the album well so it should be interesting rating it. As will be I Say, I Say and Chorus. The 1995 will certainly get extra points for the enjoyment of playing it as an album being mixed imo. I think you are right about Erasure and it being a point of nostalgia with certain albums. We seem to be proving that :) in retrospect it probably wasnt fair to rate Two Ring Circus versions. Maybe I should change the title to Two Ring Circus so people dont get confused.

@ElectricCafe-45 Leave Me to Bleed is definitely better on The Two Ring Circus. I used to like the song more but I played the whole album several times in the past few months trying to figure out if I like it more than Wonderland and no, I don't. I don't blame Flood, there must be something else, but it pales in comparison with most tracks on The Innocents. Couldn't give it more than 2/5. I was indeed confused by the track order you used in the review, it makes sense now, but the original Circus is a different beast.

@ElectricCafe-45 The Innocents is a legendary album and to make it even more legendary, it was remastered in 2009 during the longest gap between the studio albums and one of the hugely popular album tracks Phantom Bride was officially released as the 4th single 21 years since the original album! Another EP named Erasure Club was also released in 2009 and contains two mixes of Push Me Shove Me from Wonderland by none other than Jon Marsh of The Beloved!

​​@@adiceloI did rate the original version of Circus though as it's not on Two Ring Circus. Regarding Innocents. Sixty Thousand is rough track. I might take Sexuality over that track ;) Do you think I should do the 13 track Innocents with the extra 3 or 4 tracks? I cant remember the original playlist off hand. I remember the extended playlist more. Especially because When I needed you which is a track I always gravitated towards on it. Phantom Bride, Hallowed Ground and, Heart of Stone I might not rate as high as you do. I could see Ship of Fools being a 4.0, Chains of Love and Little Respect 3.75, witch in a ditch 3.25 and Yahoo a 3.0 so that's already 5 over 3.0 That's a good sign. Weight of the world 3.5 or 3.75 for me personally too. I dont think any aong except sixty thousand under a 2.0 So innocents should be in the 67-<72 range for sure

@@rediscoveryrecords1348 Pretty much the same for me but I would rate Chains of Love lower. I first heard Victim of Love and Chains of Love on Pop! The first 20 hits in 1992 and thought the latter was also from The Circus. But it's one of the earliest CD-singles in my collection and I remember preferring the b-sides. 65000 is another filler for sure, but at least it's an instrumental. A Little Respect and Ship of Fools are my top 10 Erasure songs and deserve 4.0 easily. Hallowed Ground is 3.5. I don't rate the CD-only bonuses but When I Needed You was a fantastic b-side and should have been the A-list song instead of 65000.

Thank you for that. Glorious isn't it? What a magnificent piece of equipment that was.

Happy new year! Yes, Italo disco into italo house. I also enjoy ambient house from Italy which really took over in 1989-1994. Italy loves their house music. Lots of great labels full of them. Lyrics are one thing I dont focus on a lot to be honest. The actual words or the meaning of tracks. Which I probably should do a better job of. But if I dont do a good job on that, I think I might have a better grasp of what the music can convey that most people perhaps. I have always had a problem dedicating tracks to girls. The music makes me feel so much. Then I read the lyrics and I'm thinking, "those lyrics wont be romantic to a girl!". Lol. Often they be moody or sad about a breakup when to me, sounded like love. Haha. I was gonna joke and say "I give this record an extra star just for pronouncing melody like mel-oww-dee"

@rediscoveryrecords1348 that's a good point, but I find it somewhat paradoxal that on so many good albums it's the instrumental tracks that get a low score. Is it because of their instrumental nature or just because they're not good enough compared to other songs? If vocals are important then so must be the lyrical content. I listen to hip-hop music where the rap lyrics are even more important, and it's another extreme case where I don't often connect with the music. I tried to love all those classic US hip-hop albums from both East and West coast alike and they didn't do much for me. Meanwhile, the DJs and rappers representing Eurodance of the 90s did a much greater job combining catchy melodies and meaningful lyrics. Down Low, a German duo from Kaiserslautern, was a good example. And the singles from Culture Beat, Magic Affair and Snap! of the early 90s have become classic hits worldwide.

@@adicelo really? I find myself giving the instrumental tracks too much credit sometimes. It's of course song by song. Song to song. You have to point out an example. :)

@@adicelo I'm doing a focus on new age/ambient/space rock/ experimental albums from my childhood (70s and 80s). Instrumental tracks are generally my fav. So maybe I am more harsh ons scoring those. I would guess more than 60% of my music collection is instrumental music

@@rediscoveryrecords1348 it wasn't obvious but I noticed that in your Camouflage reviews. I should check out more reviews of albums with a big portion of instrumentals. Spice Crackers by Camouflage is a great album but I see many people disliking it because it's half instrumental. But in general, I don't remember a particular record where an instrumental track was rated higher than most songs on the album.

Wow, Thank you for watching Michael. I feel confident I will continue to like Propaganda's music more and more as I grow older. I think I am pretty good at spotting music that gets better with age. This album is a shinning example of that!

@@ElectricCafe-45 Thanks Tim. It is very nice to see, how much our work from now 40 years ago stood the test of time and is still appreciated nowadays.

@@michaelmertens813 Thank you Michael. Perhaps sometime in the future, I could interview you if you would like. It would be an honor.

Agreed! I am trying to make sure I hit a lot of that period and lesser known artists and albums from 1978-83. From Japan, Visage, Ultravox but also I ddi Fashion, Adam Ant, Fad Gadget etc. And tying it with early EBM, New wave and dance music. From MOEV, Severed Heads, Cabaret Voltaire etc. I have reviews coming this week from A Certain Ratio, Manufacture, Cetu Javu, Chris & Cosey, Borghesia and DAF.

@ElectricCafe-45 look at Cocteau twins , Scottish new wave. I was in to goth, fields of nephelim. Also Ultravox "rage in Eden" is brilliant and much less well known than vienna

We are on the same pagel. I love Cocteau Twins. I reviewed Blue Bell Knoll last month but need to do another one. I am trying to do around 2-3 albums of almost every band I want to before going deeper. cocteau Twins 2nd one is coming up. Any particular album? I have all of them? Not sure if you can see the red box set behind my head inthe videos. Thats the 12 disc EP box set of all their singles. Amazing box set. Definitely doing a lot of Goth. Fields is coming soon. I did Floodland and it got the best album score in the genre. (see my EBM, Industrial , Goth playlist for what I have done so far. Much more to go!). So far on Ultravox I have done Lament and Systems of Romance along with Metamatic by John Foxx. Rage in Eden will be soon. I have a vinyl copy framed on my wall. I need to remember my t-shirt for that review lol. Big fan. Scottish new wave nice. I reviewed Fiction Factory last week.... Thanks for commenting!

@ElectricCafe-45 if you like floodland you should maybe do " first and last and always" great sisters album. Check out the band "killing joke" to. All Cocteau twins from 82 to 96 great albums and all very different. Also "dead can dance" their early stuff about 84 very different from 90s stuff . First play tonight is "Spandau ballet" "journeys to glory "

For sure. I did Killing Joke's 'Brighter Than A Thousand Suns' so far. I am planning on doing my 2nd for them in February. Dead Can Dance is on the schedule this week :) . I'm a big sisters fan. reviewing The Gift right now for their 2nd time on the channel. 90% of the stuff I review I own and have heard before. I do about 10% or maybe 3-5 songs per month that are new to me but I have been meaning to check out. or are an unheard album from a group I already know. I think when people see people do review channels, they think the person is new to the artist ir the music. For me, I'm reviewing mostly stuff I know :) in about 2 years I will start to review stuff from 2001-2026. I'm doing stuff from my childhood now 1976-2000 :) I will do First, Last and Always next month :) I have most of my January planned. I'm doing a 30 album New Age focus month which is ambient, space rock, prog rock, folk, jazz fusion and new age. And I have another 20 in more of the vein we are speaking of. I have about 20,000+ pieces of physical music. Lots of review lol

Thank you! I can't imagine. I really enjoyed his performance. I was reading about him as I was listening to it. I have a couple of records by Tuxedomoon. Pere Ubu is a good name I need to check out more from. I remember my sister playing him in the early 80s. ENO - I have most of. Good call on Pere Ubu. I will add him to my to do list. Tuxedomoon is already on my list to do... Cheers!

Nice. Thanks for this. Future Days was going to be next to review. I have the cd. I'm still learning more about Krautrock and Prog Rock. When it comes to that style, I am more on the ambient or experimental side. Or just electronics. I am doing a focus month in January on New Age related albums I have. 30 albums for 30 days. If you see my video on reviews coming I did a couple days ago you will see the list. For example. if any of those are up your alley....

Oh btw, Not sure if you watched the review I did on here on Tago Mago. I was pointing out about how experimentalism can be really hard to rate. When different and unique goes to far where it can ruin your enjoyment. Do you feel that there can be a line on that and how do you judge a band that is so different but perhaps at times, might not be as catchy or enjoyable in other moments because of it. Just wondering if you had any thoughts on that?

Sorry man. I tried :/

btw I still am glad I got to hear the album so thank you. I just was a little surprised at the beats and rhythms for 1997. Just seemed a bit dated. And the eastern sounding background vocals / chants by others (and kids on others) was a little cheesy. The main girl vocals helped the album. I wished there was more deepness, darkness and more beauty too. Everything seemed very straight forward and fairly average. I'm gonna check more Delerium albums though. I am curious to see how they have sounded over the years.

@ Merry Christmas Tim. All good. Everyone hears things differently. IMO the later Delerium albums were weaker, but again it is a matter of personal taste. Have you listened to Dead Can Dance much?

@@heygringo7 I have 3 of their earlier albums. But there is a few I need to get. I do need to get one of the channel so if u want to recommend one, feel free and I will do that one first.

@@heygringo7 I am by far an expert on them. I didnt get into them until about 15 years ago

Thanks for that. What rating would you give it? 56 is a 'pretty good' on my scale. See notes

@ElectricCafe-45 definitely 90

Ok. 90 would be an all time classic for me. That's a strong score. Thanks for your comment. Hopefully you think I am more accurate or fair with other scores. :)

Nice. Thanks for this. Ideally once I'm done with the rating of the album I try to do a quick check on the artists othet albums I may have rated as I go to compete to where I believed they stand to each other. But I agree. Placement of albums and songs by the artist is very important. And something I will keep in mind as I go and when I finalize some lists. Funny you mention that about Genesis. I have the same experience with Genesis bit with the 1986 Invisibke Touch album as you do with I cant dsnce. Maybe we are about 5-6 years difference in age lol. I was 10 when I got into 10 genesis that year when it came out. 1986. I'm going to be going thru Genesis albums and do my best rating them. Its gonna be hard. I have always been a big Peter Gabriel fan and that's helped me appreciate early Genesis a bit more. I'm not a phil collins solo hater like a lot of people. Sure there is a lot of saturation in his big hits. Like I could care less if I never hear sussudio or dont forget my number style ones. But you cant knock hes done alot of good ballads and songs. I saw his Both Sides of the Story concert in 1994with my mom that year. She liked him a lot too.

@@rediscoveryrecords1348 just to support my point (as if TH-cam really wanted to help as soon as it could) I watched another review of Genesis, and the reviewer rated his least favorite album 76.6%. His #12 earned 90.3% and #2 got a whopping score of 99.4%. He forgot to score his #1 Foxtrot but It could've been 100%. A prog rock fan for sure, but ranking 80% of a band's discography above 90% doesn't sound very reliable. th-cam.com/video/V3P3TfchOIU/w-d-xo.html

@@rediscoveryrecords1348 just to support my point, TH-cam suggested another review of Genesis (as if it really wanted to help as fast as it could) and the reviewer gave his least favorite album a score of 76.6%. His #12 album earned 90.3% and #2 got a whopping 99.4%. He forgot to rate his #1 Foxtrot but it could have been very close to 100%. A true prog rock fan for sure, but rating 80% of a band's discography above 90% doesn't look very reliable. Upd.: The same reviewer (TheFloydios) revisited his ranking video two years later and improved the score accuracy. He abandoned scores for the spots #15 and #14, thus #13 got 74.55%, #10 got 80.23%, #4 got #92.99% and his #1 earned 96.39%.

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Thats some very high scores!