Greg Johnston
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Can We Make Yew Even Faster?
Yew - the most popular and mature Rust/WebAssembly framework - is already significantly faster than React. Can we make it even faster?
This video takes a look at some performance optimizations for Rust/WASM libraries and the trade-offs that come with them.
Resources:
Yew: github.com/yewstack/yew
js-framework-benchmark: github.com/krausest/js-framework-benchmark
PR with these optimizations and related discussion: github.com/yewstack/yew/pull/3169
Docs for wasm-bindgen string interning: docs.rs/wasm-bindgen/latest/wasm_bindgen/fn.intern.html
The other video: th-cam.com/video/4KtotxNAwME/w-d-xo.html
มุมมอง: 12 239

วีดีโอ

Let's Build a Frontend Web Framework in Rust
มุมมอง 18Kปีที่แล้ว
This video will walk building a simple DOM rendering library in Rust, starting with the basics of DOM manipulation and interaction with browser APIs and incrementally building up from there. Resources: Repo: github.com/gbj/simple-framework Leptos: github.com/leptos-rs/leptos wasm-bindgen Guide: rustwasm.github.io/docs/wasm-bindgen/ Other tools: Bacon: github.com/Canop/bacon Trunk: trunkrs.dev/
The Truth about Rust/WebAssembly Performance
มุมมอง 169Kปีที่แล้ว
Over the last six months, frontend frameworks written in Rust and WebAssembly have begun overturning the old narrative that WASM is too slow for DOM rendering. In this video we'll take a look at several Rust/WASM frameworks to try to understand the truth about Rust/WASM performance. EDIT: To clarify about the memory usage: Something changed in the benchmark at some point in the way memory use i...
Learning Leptos: "To create_effect(), or Not To create_effect()?"
มุมมอง 9Kปีที่แล้ว
This video answers the common question: When should I use create_effect? When should I *not* use create_effect? CodeSandbox: codesandbox.io/p/sandbox/serene-thompson-40974n?file=/src/main.rs&selection=[{"endColumn":1,"endLineNumber":2,"startColumn":1,"startLineNumber":2}] (To see the browser in the CodeSandbox you may need to click the "Add Devtools" button at the top, then "Other Previews: 8080")
Learning Leptos: v0.1.0, cargo-leptos, & the World's Best Dark-Mode Toggle
มุมมอง 16Kปีที่แล้ว
NOTE: Someone very helpfully figured out my bug at 49:24. It turns out I had actually built the ActionForm version on top of a bug in ActionForm, which should reset its input value. So the manual version that was "buggy" was behaving correctly! I've updated the example repo so it's now correct, pending a PR to fix the ActionForm issue. :-D Get a preview of some of the improvements in v0.1.0-bet...
Learning Leptos: Build a fine-grained reactive system in 100 lines of code
มุมมอง 28Kปีที่แล้ว
Today's video shows how the fine-grained reactivity that powers Leptos really works. We'll build our own fine-grained reactive system from scratch and to see how to reactively update user interfaces. Leptos is a Rust framework for building web applications. You can find out more at GitHub: github.com/gbj/leptos Discord: discord.gg/YdRAhS7eQB

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  • @DavidBudaghyan
    @DavidBudaghyan 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am new to Rust, new to reactive systems and yet this video makes it so easy to understand the concepts and the inner workings. Thank you for the insightful video and clear explanation!

  • @MrJatan90
    @MrJatan90 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ok, after days of searching and fiddling around, this video answered all of my questions. You sir, are a godsend. Was so confused with different frameworks and opinions. Thanks again!

  • @nathaaaaaa
    @nathaaaaaa 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am here because I am the maintainer of a web-app that at some point has do display interactive charts and maps that handle larges amounts of data. The frontend post-processing and the many abstraction layers of Plotly (and mapboxgl) are causing a huge slowdown and everything gets laggy. I am searching for alternatives of how I could perform faster post-processing (I already did my best with JavaScript) and GIS/Plotting. Do you gentlemen and women and anything in between have any suggestions?

  • @JReuben111
    @JReuben111 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this framework is insanely powerful, almost a paradigm shift.

  • @marcopaolovaleriovezzoli5776
    @marcopaolovaleriovezzoli5776 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really interesting comparison. Thanks!

  • @frantisek_heca
    @frantisek_heca หลายเดือนก่อน

    How current is it in the context of Leptos versions, please? For example, the logic in this video would be mapped to which Leptos version?

  • @MichaelMaraist
    @MichaelMaraist 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love these sort of deep dive philosophy topics

  • @MichaelMaraist
    @MichaelMaraist 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just coming over from Svelte4 -> Svelte5 ; having to compare/contrast SolidJS style signals in both those frameworks, and seeing your talk just made EVERYTHING make so much more sense. Thank you.

  • @planesrift
    @planesrift 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly canvas is a pain to use.

  • @abdallahmeddah8461
    @abdallahmeddah8461 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wouldn't pick rust over javascript for effeciency. I don't think we need better performance on the web today, but more statical typing and robustness, while keeping the access to web development pretty easy. The goal to me is to find a way so that with very little knowledge we can't mess up code and create invisible bugs, incoherent dependencies, while at the same time it shouldn't be very hard to develop a good web application. Rust looks a like a very good language for that, thank you guys for the frameworks you're developping!

  • @social.elenakrittik
    @social.elenakrittik 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you SO much man for how you've done the introduction! I wish more people did this "gist-of-the-video" type of intros, it saves so much time!

  • @T--T
    @T--T 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you are a great teacher man

  • @fionawashere1086
    @fionawashere1086 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    31:29 This is exactly why Rust is so great. Even if it's a runtime borrow-check, it's still a borrow-check, and not a data race. ^^ Same thing in 33:56.

  • @fionawashere1086
    @fionawashere1086 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    fantastic presentation, thank you so much! I'm evaluating leptos for multiple future projects, and it looks very promising to me.

  • @TeoDumski
    @TeoDumski 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you provide code you created throughout this tutorial? It'd be so helpful to study your code without scrolling youtube video back and forth :p Great work, BTW, many thanks!

  • @vaisakhkm783
    @vaisakhkm783 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So you are saying I should use React..... to keep my job...

  • @PaulSebastianM
    @PaulSebastianM 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😂 No effects is like saying no event handlers and no callbacks. Do people really not see the similarity?

  • @cheebadigga4092
    @cheebadigga4092 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you are the man! I started to love Rust a couple days ago and now I'm starting to love the community too!

  • @vvvvijjjj
    @vvvvijjjj 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super cool. Needed to watch it a second time to code along. Thanks a ton !!!

  • @whatwhat2573
    @whatwhat2573 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if i write performance based code in c++ can i use wasm and see a significant performance improvement

  • @olduniverse9270
    @olduniverse9270 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In my opinion performance is not so important now. When a company choose a stack they look for support, libraries, popularity etc.

  • @ulicqueldromal
    @ulicqueldromal 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Using the link in the description I cannot see Sledghammer in the benchmarks. I also can't find it in the git repository. Is there a fork that includes the rust frameworks?

  • @andredasilva6807
    @andredasilva6807 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was amazing. I didnt fully understand all the rust parts. But i feel like i finally get signals and effects. Phenomenal video. Thanks a lot

  • @dimashadziq6007
    @dimashadziq6007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank i m new to rust and its so hard for me to tackle wasm closure, your framework are really great and this vidio are plus plus. Now i understand better into borrow checker with your explanation

  • @zahash1045
    @zahash1045 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why not set the current running effect in the create effect method instead of run effect method. because you only need to figure out which effect depend on which signals only once and not every time the signal is run?

    • @SVVV97
      @SVVV97 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because in a real system you'd really want to newly figure the dependence out every single run: the basic idea is that you want to minimize how often effects are run at basically any cost. If you have have an effect that does something like `if some_signal() { do_something_expensive(signal_1()) } else { do_something_expensive(signal_2()) }` you wouldn't want to rerun the effect if `signal_2` changes while `some_signal` was `true`. Moreover this effect couldn't even subscribe to `signal_2` if `some_signal` started out as false.

  • @zahash1045
    @zahash1045 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I may be wrong but isn’t this exactly how react hooks work? React maintains one giant array where all the state is maintained (don’t need to do <dyn Any> because js is dynamically typed) and it returns the reference to read the state and a function to update the state

  • @bonsairobo
    @bonsairobo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Do people read docs, idk" The Leptos book sent me here lol

  • @ssokolow
    @ssokolow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone happily running a 2011 CPU with the RAM maxed out to 32GiB for everything except web apps (I have a separate gaming rig I'm quite happy with... it's a hand-me-down of similar age with 8GiB of RAM and a Radeon HD 5870 from 2009), I'd say that WEB APPS IN GENERAL aren't ready for prime time, regardless of what they're written in. When normal "a few open tabs and a TH-cam video at 480p" web browsing doesn't reliably maintain better P99 janklessness than games like Superliminal or A Hat In Time, something's wrong.

  • @oefzdegoeggl
    @oefzdegoeggl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that looks like a good choice for something that has to do a lot of state changes purely on the client side without any server interaction. will be interesting to see what will happen once DOM modification directly from WASM is possible. i'm not too sure though how this would work out for low-frequency state updates with a roundtrip to the server ... might well be that minimal js and server-side rendering (e.g. actix-web + sailfish + htmx) would outperform here. for sure for the loading performance, but maybe also for rendering. browsers are extremely fast on html processing. obviously, your changed DOM causes html processing in the browser as well, but i talk about processing/diffing larger chunks as it would happen if the whole table got replaced by a server roundtrip.

  • @WoWbob396
    @WoWbob396 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This channel is incredible! Really enjoy your delivery style, and love the content with nuanced perspectives that aren’t black and white.

  • @zenshade2000
    @zenshade2000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does anyone know what that color theme is? I really like it a lot.

  • @khanra17
    @khanra17 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Over normalised audio, not cool 👎

  • @user-qr4jf4tv2x
    @user-qr4jf4tv2x 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    looks like running speed solidjs,leptos,yew,dioxus,sycamore Startup metrics solidjs, svelte,sledgehammer safety leptos,yew,dioxus,sycamore easy svelte,solidjs memory usage solidjs,svelte large community react,angular

  • @user-qr4jf4tv2x
    @user-qr4jf4tv2x 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    already got lost use leptos::{create_element}; #[derive(Default)] struct Runtime{ } fn main(){ console_error_panic_hook::set_once(); let body :HtmlElement=body().unwrap(); let p =create_element("p"); p.set_text_content(Some("OK")); }

    • @user-qr4jf4tv2x
      @user-qr4jf4tv2x 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      | 301 | pub struct HtmlElement<El: ElementDescriptor> { | ^^^^^^^^^^^ -- help: add missing generic argument | 11 | let body :HtmlElement<El>=body().unwrap(); | ++++ error[E0425]: cannot find function `create_element` in this scope --> cache_front\src\main.rs:13:12 | 13 | let p =create_element("p"); |

  • @Munchopen
    @Munchopen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man! You are cool bro! Take it to the benchmarks! Nailed the interpretation of the results. Showing immense knowledge of frontend frameworks! Wow! Keep it up!

  • @RoshanKharel
    @RoshanKharel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    came for the content. enjoyed the background chirp :)

  • @joaodiasconde
    @joaodiasconde 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing stuff, great rust skills and great simple design for a non-trivial problem/system

  • @JR-wu3rx
    @JR-wu3rx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you for the video Greg! Please do more. As a beginner in Leptos, it is helpful to get further context and examples in addition to what the book provides.

  • @jaymartinez311
    @jaymartinez311 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Random question: How should my folder structure be? 🤔

  • @paulycdong
    @paulycdong 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Perhaps I am a bit late to this great tutorial… on 2:22 , how did you spawn up this web server? And what versions of Leptos and Web sys did you use? I am trying to follow along but the imports seem not to be working… thanks!

  • @v-for-victory
    @v-for-victory 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Greg, what a captivating introduction and thorough explanation! I was journeying through TH-cam in search of info on Leptos and serendipitously landed on your masterpiece. It was the guiding light I needed. Immense gratitude to you!

  • @shitcoinsrus
    @shitcoinsrus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks for developing leptos! but if leptos is open source and free, how do you pay your bills?