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WoW?..its a commodore16 with memory expansion........u cant fool me son.back in 1984 people didnt see the ted chip as an improvement over the vic

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Is this SID modified Plus4?

Nice tribute to TMR and others.

This demo gets it. This is the path to the source.

Awesome!

Pure genius!

This is very impressive and also fun to watch. Some demos are only fun to watch because I know they're stretching the limits of the machine. This one does that but it's also just fun to watch because it looks cool regardless of the machine it might be running on.

can I hear SID onboard?

Hey Lavinia & the whole crew: you rock! Great demo!

fantastic. what else is there to say?

This is probably technical wizardry, but there could have been so much more work done on the pacing. It's a struggle to sit through it, unfortunately.

Impressive demo!!

From 05:45. That tune is tight. Hit rewind a couple times. Awsome.

As someone who owned a Plus/4 - Wow! Truly stunning!

this is some epic shit

bro this was amazing

That was flawless. Commodore +4 and C16 had very few users here in France, i'm surprised by the active scene worldwide. And SO happy.

Sid card?

Fantatsic, if only my late father could have seen this! Thanks for all the hard work put into this!

don't any creators want to test the capabilities of the Plus4's sound chip? :( SID is already done

cool

Did not like that at all... Is not possible to make a demo without ghoulish imagery?

Very nice ! Plus 4 can make incredible graphics !

Knowing about the platform limitations this is impressive work. Many thanks for making and sharing!

I always thought the TED chip was underutilized.

I already commented on the other plus 4 demos - awesome machine I never imagined they were this capable. These demos remind me of amiga demos/cracktro's. Compared to the demos for C64 - C64 demos look like c64 demos or BBC micro graphics just shitter. These I could be tricked into thinking they are Amiga demos. Pity thise weren't available back in the day and games coders started taking notice of whats possible with them - the plus 4 and TED series could have been the "in" platform rather than the c64. We all might have purchased SID cartriges to improve the sound maybe just because the sound had real limitations - even though in these demos they get really good sound out of the plus 4

The TED series really had terrible sound but I liked what they did in the Promised Land demo with it. Somebody commented they used a SID chip for the audio here. I can't clame them really I don't know now whether the Promised Land demo used the original TED systems sound now. But if they didn't it would have been nice if they did the same here in this demo. Sound is the one thing that realy let the TED platform down. But graphically and with colour the TED's can produce some amazing graphics where the C64 just isnt in the same league. And the extra CPU power doesn't hurt the platform either. I had a C16 and Plus4 when I was a kid like 10-12 before getting an amiga and learnt to programme on them. They were superior to the c64 in a number of ways and there is some software out there which really demonstrates that. I guess the c128 was the best of both with a few more extras thrown in. I did like the C128 I wished I had one. But I got an Amiga next and just leap-frogged the c128 entirely. I still did get to mess around with C128's and really liked them, programming them was like programming the TED series (In Basic at least) I would have really liked one. And most people just used their 128's as a C64 anyway. I really liked the C128D's such a nice looking computer. My mate had an A1000 it was what I always wanted but I had an a500 . Eventually I got a computer that wasn't built into the keyboard and had a separate CPU case, but it was a P60 in a mini tower - by then commodore was well dead and gone. Such a shame they were the better machines and better OS. And so time marched on for me and everybody else. It's hard to think of what could have been - these days I run Win11 (even on my Mac's) and use Debian/Ubuntu in server environments. Pity it's not a world with Amiga based OS's. Ive got a raspberry Pi400 I use as my Amiga running PiMiga (which is a really nice OS considerings its roots is based on an 80's OS) and have Amiga Forever for PC as well as WinUAE etc. PiMiga particularly is still really cool to use imagine where the Amiga OS and hardware could be today. It's a funny thing - like a new Amiga OS would be awesome. A complete reimagining of what it would be today - but the old hardware and much of it's code would have to be left behind. I guess you could emulate the old OS and Hardware. I'm rambling I wish commodore hadn't been such a fook erp back in the day I'd p[robably be still running a decendant of Amiga OS. Why am I rambling about Amiga on a Plus/4 demo? Well I watched a few c64 demos to compare and they look like 8 bit C64 style demos - but I watch these Plus 4 demos they could easily be mistaken for Amiga demos. I'm comparing c64 demos to Pong and I can't help put these in the class I'd expect from an Amiga - they're inn that league. So nice work whom ever coded them you could trick me and tell me this or promised land were Amiga demos and I'd believe you - but take c64 demo and try and tell me its an Amiga demo I'd just laugh and laugh and laugh.

I had a plus 4 when I was a kid I learnt to program in Basic on it when I was 10 and 11 years old. I had a c16 then got a plus 4 when I was 11 because it was cheap. It's amazing seeing what it is capable of this would habe blew my mind back then. It did have some advantages over the c64 there were some really good games - if something like this demo existed back then it might have inspired some really cool stuff. I'm not surprised graphically that this sort of thing was possible - but the sound!!!! wtf. Thats also some real talant. I'm sitting here going Wow. Like I'm sure a clever c64 programmer could do something cool - but it just didn't have the colour pallette. It was a cool machine and Ive watched some videos of the games that existed back then that I never knew existed or couldn't afford. There was always more c64 stuff in the shops bu there was still a lot of c16 stuff I couldn't buy or play. Most of ,y friends had c64 and would "exchange" games and I couldn't be part of that. So I missed out not just on all the c64 stuff but also tje opportunity of sharing games with all my mates with TED computers since most of my friends had c64's instead. But I was one of the first to get an Amiga which changed everything. But what a missed opportunity the TED's could have been more awesome rather than "the shitty alternative".

the sid chip was a load of fun, guess it still is. must be. drum man was the first i saw on c64.

If only these modern games/trackmos could make the rounds on the BBS'es back when the Plus/4 was being liquidated for $50..

This is great 😮

Just thinking about how Commodore dropped the ball with these machines. Just imagine if they were not managed by such id**ts, we might have Commodore computers today. But they were dead set on shipping incompatible devices rather than growing the tech they had. (Yes, there are some basics in place like the 6502 cpu and variants of it, and the C16/116/plus4 being almost identical)... but they were focused on 'we need a computer on *that* market/pricerange' rather than building up a family of better and better devices. Like the C128 could have been a much more powerful C64 and the C64 could have been slided back on the pricerange... instead the C128 was trying to do something it should not have tried at that point anyway. (CP/M?) These demos are amazing because they show how much potential the Commodore machines had even without specialised architecture (like what you find in an Amiga or Atari) Kudos to the people doing the Plus4 demo - I always loved the C16/Plus4 range better anyway :) Alright back to x86 land...

This is very nice usage of the 121 colors.

Amazing stuff ❤

Impressive...

Wow! Absolutely gobsmacking stuff. I never realised the Plus4 was such a capable machine. Great work throughout.

Great demo. Thanks 👍

I’ve never used a Commodore 64 so I don’t know why this was recommended to me but this was awesome

Wow! Awesome demo.

As an old Plus 4 owner, these demos never cease to amaze me. I was enthralled by Icicle Works at the time :D

I can hear sid music ? How this is possible ?

The outro! Restoring the basic screen, what a great idea!😂 (Loved everything else, too)

Whoa, I am blown away! Those ball and plane effects are astounding and would have given the classic Amiga 'boing' ball demo a run for the money had they come out at the same time, and on such limited hardware! Great work. Who knew the plus 4 would have been capable of this?

Absolutely pure genius ❤

my older brother brother loved his plus 4. memories...

6:35 OMG...

Exceptional

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