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That’s my old psych ! He knows his stuff !! Somebody def needs to call this OUT!! I’m here for it !!!

God only knows why the liquid form is the prescibed way to taper off. I had to beg my PCP to see a psychiatric pharmacist to get liquid... even then 1mg changes from 10-9-8 are drastic and painful. Those shit heads told me to keep going on just 5mg when alternating 10-5 put me in crisis 😭.

Dr. Mark Horowitz is a beacon of light in the darkness… 🙏🏻❤

I was put on 10mg of Lexapro by my GP as I was going through a stressful life event, some 12 years ago. I was never told about coming off, how long to stay on, or what it was like to stop. About three years later I tapered off and felt OK until a stressful event soon after stopping, whereupon I had worse anxiety and panic than I had before I went on the drug. So I went back on. I later had my dose increased to 20mg by a psychiatrist. I'm tired of the side effects (tinnitus, a bit of weight gain and I just hate taking drugs which I think I'm only on because I can't get off. ) I tapered off once again several months ago and was feeling ok but once again another life stressor soon after threw me into anxiety and panic. I think I just had not adapted and had maybe tapered too fast. I am tapering very slowly now, and hope to be free of this drug in maybe a year or so. I'm in no hurry because no way do I want to feel the terrible discontinuation effects, which are downright dangerous. Think very carefully and get proper advice before starting psych drugs.

Do side effects go away after few weeks or they are permanent?my doc says they won t subside.

Youre truly amazing. Thank you for this and for sticking up for all these people who are gas lit by their doctors. The world needs more of this.

Dr are clueless. I was also told relapse. I was assaulted and hospital put me on AD

Why aren't the Dr's following what you are saying as I have mentioned this to my Dr's and they refuse to follow your suggestions on how to come off peroxitine also been told they don't prescribe lower doses like drops ect.Can you give me answers to this.

Please tell me what someone should do when they have gone cold turkey for a month and now experiencing withdrawal symptoms. Gone cold turkey on escitalopram (first 10 mg - for 3.5 years, then 5mg for 3 months till 1 Aug 2024), as of now its been 25 days, experiencing anxiety, irritability, sleep disturbance and low mood, burning sensation only first 1 to 2 hours after waking up, no brain zaps or balance issues. What should I do? Should I brave through with supplements or should I reintroduce and do slow taper, afraid of paradoxical reactions but withdrawal symptoms are horrible. If I reintroduce at what dose? If supplements, which supplements?

brilliant video that gives me some hope ,been on 20mg citalopram for 11 years thinking i was permanently screwed by anxiety ,looks like i have a fight on my hands but at least theres a strategy i can follow ,thank you Dr Mark

You have to schedule and wait for an appointment and then you have to have the skills to discuss things with a doctor: why wasn’t this info given when this med was prescribed? Had I known you need patience and diligence to quit, I would have been started it!!

thanks for this ,i finally found a word for the description of what im feeling when i try to withdraw from ssri,s .......akathisia ,its so insidious but at least i have a name for it

After taking dopes called as antidepressant you are left fucked up even more than before treatement. Who profits on you...? Figure it out before professionals tell you do what you are told and take your pills for your own good.

I have been trying to taper again off of Cymbalta for 2 years. I am going through hell with severe anxiety and panic sensations. It's a nightmare! Been using a compounding pharmacy and they haven't been using a hyperbolic taper. I really need help!

Damn psychiatrists.... they destroy lifes. I wish I have never met one of them

I'm so grateful to find your videos and learn about your studies. I believe this is vitally important. I've been following protocol from Facebook support group, Cymbalta hurts Worse. The moderators are so compassionate and very wise, especially Maria Pastoor. (who I saw you interviewed at beginning of July 2024). I began my taper from 60 mg capsule. After 20+ years of taking it I began my taper on 7/21/2020 (I find creating a spreadsheet to document my progress and symptoms has been very helpful). presently I am only taking 2mg/daily, although I take 1/2 dosage twice a day, because Cymbalta has an extremely short half-life of 12 hours & every 3 weeks I know I won't be able to sleep well for 3-5 days, experience hot flashes, anxiety, spiky headaches, pain & numbness down arms and legs. I started this withdrawal at age 69 and I'm now 73. Listening to this presentation has given me hope that I'm not beginning dementia, although it could be possible as both my mother and older sister had dementia. At my age it's hard to determine if the taper is to blame for my decline in my physcial and mental health. I fear hospitalization because in the US, they don't allow you to bring your own medications & they dispense it from their pharmacies. They don't recognize or understand the delicate balance with counting out tiny beads and that I must have Breckenridge as manufacturer. Back in 2020, no one understood the micro-dosing to taper. I've had a couple of weird episodes and would not go to the ER because of this fear. My pharmacist who fills my scripts laughed at me the first time I tried explaining what I intended to do, but in the past 4 years, she has become much more informed. My family Physician argued with me about the proper method but has agreed to continue prescribing it for me. I would probably be dead or institutionalized if it wasn't for this peer group, Cymbalta Hurts Worse. Keep up the research. There are at least 40,000 of us who are deeply grateful!!!

I’m on venlafaxine SSNRI for 2 months and I’m stopping. I don’t want to go any further and risk something like this happening. After stopping for a week I feel Nauseous, tired, dizzy, and headaches , I don’t think 2 months is considered longterm

I’m on venlafaxine SSNRI for 2 months and I’m stopping. I don’t want to go any further and risk something like this happening. After stopping for a week I feel Nauseous, tired, dizzy, and headaches

Nice i have only 75 and 50 mg tablets of Effexor in my country, thats it. :D gues im fucked.

I am off Citalopram after 16+ years. I am so short fused and swear readily. I have been off one month. Still have brain zaps, heightened emotions generally. I would say the anger/reactionary behaviours are tge worst symptoms. Worse than crying readily and zapping. From all I havecheard it could be a very long time before the withdrawal symptoms abate! There are not many success stories, if any, to help keep you going either which is almost ominous!.

Is this talk available to download and print out. I would really like to give it to my new doctor.

im lucky, i quit paxil 30mg after being on it over 20 years cold turkey about 2 months ago and had no withdrawal. whenever i attempted to before it was awful. after 7 days without it i was like "oh crap i didnt take my paxil for week! and i feel fine, im just going to quit" i feel so much better off that stuff. i have emotion now! and not just flat affect, its like i was living in black and white and the color is back now

Wow - the second case study! It’s shocking. I’m so angry on behalf of that young woman. No one listened to her at all.

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Dr could you please help. My husband tried to go off Effexor and then went back on, but for a week took double his dose. He ended up in er because of suicidal ideation. They said to go back down to his regular dose and he would be fine. He’s not fine. Inthe hospital again and now they put him on remron? Spelling wrong. Now it’s been 3 weeks and he is still unable to work, he can barely eat, can’t do anything. What do i do? The dr wants to put him on more drugs. I’m so afraid, please please help.

Very well said Dr Mark You, Dr Josef hottering. Bob whittaker, have all been life saving to me. I have been taking this drugs all the anti psychotics, benzos, mood stabilizers , SNRi etc from last 20 years and was still not improving and had cold turkeyed several times only to suffer the withdrawals with vengeance . But after going through your seminars , from the last 9 months have started the taper of 10% of the last dose and the wds are hell but manageable bcoz i am simultaneously reducing 3 drugs i.e Lamtrrgiene (mood stabilizers), Prozac (SSRI) and Duloxietene (snris). Have decided to go slow now as i have reached the 25% of my original dose on all 3 tabs. also taking omega 3 and vi- d and vit B12 supplements

I’m 9 months off zoloft 15 years use. Too fast taper by Dr. Severe WD. Feels like injury in my brain. Is there any hope? Will I be disabled for years. Cant work. Pain in my body. Feels like I lost myself and my life.

Please come back to Australia and set up a clinic here… Melbourne specifically… please 🙏

What length of time after your last dose is considered a protracted withdrawal? I'm 19 months off and still experiencing acute withdrawal symptoms 😢

I commend you for sticking your neck out challenging these drug companies. Your videos are inspiring, thank you.

38 years paxil and xanax and one week hospital to get off. Swear truth. Last October. Now what ??.

THANK YOU!❤

I have only been taking mirtazapine for 2 months , and i want to stop ( as i can not tolerate the side effects anymore ) I tried to stop but i got to day 3 and the withdrawal was horrific , feel terrible taking them a d terrible trying to get off tgem ( was put on them becauses of anxiety ( they do not really help , not very good with medication)

I´ve been tapering down from 5mg Lexapro, 10% reductions every two months, and now currently on 2.95mg. This is not medical advice to anyone, but taking the following supplements daily has helped quite substantially in tackling withdrawal symptoms: Vitamin D with K2: 4000units (morning) Vitamin C: 1gram (liposomal) (morning) Omega 3: 800mg EPA + 400mg DHA (at night) Magnesium Glycinate: 120mg (at night) Magnesium Threonate: 122mg (morning) Chaga Powder: 2g serving (served with tea, afternoon) Symptoms are mild the first three weeks after each reduction, then relatively normal functioning the following five weeks (with 1 or 2 miserable days)

Psychedelics definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it's just so hard to source out here

Execelent presentation Mark. Especially the graphs ( VISUALS)......they are true for most taperings I imagine. How would a graph look for those who have successfully stopped the drugs? For younger people who have a fighting chance? What might success look like?

Thanks Mark, doctors need to recognise this if they knew the damage they can and have done to patients they wouldnt be quick to prescribe.Opiates,benzos ,gabapentinoids and antidepressants can be really damaging.Informed consent thats all patients advocate for.Your a genius in your field of work.Theres people in psych wards that are ill cos these meds victims.

Thank you for your excellent presentation, Javier

Please can you guide me how to taper successfully Closopine. The doctor initially put my nephew at 450 mg. He withdrew by himself reducing it by 100mg. i.e 350 mg. Thereafter 25mg every 8 weeks or more. He wants to completely ween off this medication. The psychologist is refusing to his tapering. Where can he get help, to overcome withdrawal symptoms ...esp. suicidal symptoms, as this has happened when earlier he was put on Risperidon , which actually causes suicides...PLEASE HELP !

This is why I NEVER take pharmaceuticals

Excellent presentation.Dr Horowitz may kindly also do presentations on tapering by elderly patients as their cases are different from other adults ie < 65 years.

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Antidepressant injury and antidepressant tapering injuries are real. Mark knows exactly what he’s talking about so listen up! Find Nicole Lamberson PA and hear about her benzodiazepine injury and listen to her discussions for the award winning documentary “Medicating Normal”. Learn about injuries like chronic and tardive akathisia. Find Dr. Shipko in Mad in America and hear about his work with tardive akathisia from antidepressants. I want to see all 1:6 adults on antidepressants get tapered off and see how many people actually get hurt.

My doctor makes a distinction between physical and psychological dependence. The concept of psychological dependence seems invalid to me. The way it is described, it sounds like a reverse placebo effect, in which you experience adverse effects because you expect them. If so, then saying that withdrawal symptoms result from psychological dependence amounts to saying that it is all in your head. It is frustrating that my doctor does not take my symptoms seriously, but he is really just there to write the prescriptions, so I don't dwell on it.

how do you access liquid forms of ssri so you can slowly come off

Dr. HOROWITZ , Thank you. I have experienced exactly what you are saying after titrating off Paxil per my subscriber instructions. I seriously thought I was losing my mind. I found myself in the fetal position sobbing - eventually blacked out. My gp said it was an anxiety attack , and prescribed anti-anxiety meds. That was a train wreck! I decided to stay off all psych meds....am still withdrawing after 11 months. It IS getting better though. A very SLOW process.

Any chance that the original webinar participants can be emailed some of the data slides from the last half of the presentation?

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I DIDN’T start the antidepressants because of anger and irritability! But this is what I have when I stopped Lexapro.

This is very informative Thank you