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One problem I see with Encore and databases (or at least I didn't know how to do it) is that each service has to have its own database and it doesn't allow you to use a shared one. For those who are starting a project and are interested in starting with a monolithic project or even using the power of relationships between tables, I didn't find how to make this work.

i use prisma

Looking good :)

This is awesome!

my team and I really hoped to use encore, but we can't build a docker Image, and as it turned out, others already created an issue three weeks ago. Unfortunately, there is no reaction from the developers.

I am using Hono + OpenAPI + Zod with Adapter Port Pattern ( Hexagonal Architecture ). In addition, serviceweaver is a good choice but The Google is going to stop it soon.

trying that encore ts thing.. trying to figure out what is the raison d'etre of that platform so far it looks good

I think we need an example of partial or full migration from a fastify project to encore. I mean, not only how to make the base api endpoints and use database. Fastify have great plugin system, and from the docs you know how to guard routes, how to make auth, how to validate every part of request, params, response or even headers. With encore you know only that it a good replacement of express 😢.

we need detailed example with drizzle, because to see only the migration file sql it is not enough. I mean how to use it with your postgres db integration correctly?

the best for backend

What are the VS Code extensions you are using? In particular, the one that makes types so distinctly seperated from the code?

TypeScript for event-driven apps sounds great! 😃 Looking forward to seeing more on Pub/Sub, Cron Jobs, and PostgreSQL. 🤩

Love the shades in the end!

Awesome video!

express is still our go to framework

Thanks for the tutorial! I will give Encore a shot :) May i asked you what IDE are you using ? (at 9:20)

I just want to quickly mention that Elysia also works with CF Workers. There’s a little bit of initial configuration you need to do, but it is an option. From my recent experience with both Hono and Elysia working on a user-facing CMS platform, Hono structures routes such that you’ll want to define authorization per route, whereas Elysia made it much easier to use a top level “auth table” pattern. I’m not saying one is better than the other, but the latter had been a requirement for my situation.

Any plans for mysql support out of the box?

Nestjs man. Look at the framework evolving. It is Django of node frameworks

When it comes nestjs overcome express, see the GitHub stars when web started everybody was doing stuff in html CSS and J's and overlong run companies understand that long terms maintaining, hacking attempts on framework without solid framework code business so heavily. Nest js become clear market winner and more likely when bun comes to picture very shortly and framework like nestjs could work on top of that with little support. So regardless of small or big companie, most started sticking to nestjs do backends

Redo the video when you've compared Deepkit. Thank me later.

Man that local development infrastructure of Encore looked sleek!

Does encore run on bun? If yes, does it benefit from it compared to node?

Would it make sense to use nestjs with encore, where encore provides the outermost layer like the http handling, and from controllers inwards, we utilize the nest decorators and functions?

#Fastify the king

My only issue is the validation that uses typescript interfaces..the validation could at least be using json schema validation..

You missed adonis js…explore it and build a video

does this works only with node.js ? Or does Encore supports bun and Deno ?

have you tested with bun or node?

I am very impressed with the infra diagram and the encore-cloud migrating to self host templates. You guys should focus content on that, other solutions like winglang and pulumi are not javascript friendly or just incomplete. The observability also looks nice.

Encore is too much magic in my opinion

Tbh , i am skeptical , you guys did a great work no doubt on that , but trusting a benchmark from the company which developed the framework might not be the best place to evaluate frameworks , and on the rust runtime , yest it is faster , but it might be a deal breaker for certain things like edge runtimes and the rust binary might also cause overhead ( reason why prisma was hated ). Last but not least the tech giant that i use on my day to day life Vercel is known for messing up bench marks to come up with fancy marketing terms , So I'm just not conviced with the differences you are showing between these frameworks .

i'm still confuse deploying encore go to virtual private cloud like digital ocean. I need tutorial

The world of JavaScript is chaotic. Infinite number of frameworks. And there will be an infinite number of runtime in the future 😂. A toy programming language made in 10 days now has the biggest community. The creator didn't realize what he did💀

Without caching support Encore.ts really struggles to keep up with the rest

Encore is really interesting but the thing that hesitates me to use it is unlike Hono, there are less video tutorials about it that talks about creating multiple services and deploying it. I hope Encore would release an advanced full typescript course from creation to deployment. Is Encore more meant for Enterprise because it's going to be expensive to deploy multiple services than a monolith? This one is really interesting but if operating cost would be too expensive then maybe it's more targeted for large companies not hobbyists. 😅

Can I run Encore.ts in a VPS?

Hey encore team, I opened an issue in the repository of your performance benchmarks asking why I cant seem to get the best performance in speed and throughput using encore vs Elysia. Elysia was able to receive 100-120k RPS while Encore seems to be capped at 2-3k RPS? Would love to really understand how to make encore run better as it looks really promising from a dev UX perspective

how can we handle complex validations with encore like validating if a string is email or of some specific regex or number is min or max ? 7:32 as you mentioned express+zod and hono+typebox these libs provide good validations with typesafety how can we achieve the same flexibility with encore ?

I'm already using it in my projects, now I want to know what the websoquet looks like

What ide you use?

the best

Awesome video

Why not fastify

I like this, can I define API like hono syntax, like app.get('/', (c) => { c.text('Hono!')) }

5 moths ago and now we still awaiting this feature for TS? :(

good

Is it ready to go into production?

I don't believe this at at all. Is this benchmark comparing single threaded bun vs multi threaded encore? Encore's request path without validation: request deserialized into rust -> request serialized into format that can be passed cross-process -> request deserialized by node process -> response serialized by node process. Web server in node request path -> request deserialized by node process -> response serialized by node process. The encore path is pure overhead, I'd love for them share why this is faster. If the answer "because Rust" you have to remember Buns HTTP server IS written in native code, as is Node's (V8). So the addition of low level language code shouldn't actually make any difference.

What about the latency? Throughput is nice to know, but does not really matter if you can scale horizontally besides cost.