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i'm sure I mumbled but meant to say .485. 7.5" bell. The 6H and this 160 feel very different, but both excellent.

@@ronzgarage oh I see, that makes sense! That sounds about right for the time period.

​@@1320_ikimashothey were competing with the other small bores of the day.

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@ oh ok sadly I’m in Canada😅

@@BriandeMSU that and the 69 Ford Mustang!

@@chriskowalski7038 Wes lee is the king!!

@@ronzgarage ya... watch all his stuff too

@@chriskowalski7038 welcome to the club. Careful not to fall down the rabbit hole like I did.

@@chriskowalski7038 post your stuff. I'd love to see it.

@@petermansfield6453 it's nothing like the others. Among my Olds mp's it was the Best one for this horn.

@@1320_ikimasho the Holton is noticeably warmer. Both respond about the same. The Yamaha is clearer in the upper range. I like warmth the Holton produces. It reminds me of how my Bach 42 gets so warm.

@@ronzgarage I picked up a Holton TR-602 a few days ago. In very good shape. The slide needs to be a bit of realignment but I think the horn will be a winner.

I have both the 30 & 32H. They say they make good lead horns because of the small dual bore slides. the bore difference between the top and bottom tubes is pretty wide which makes it feel more open as you play higher. I need to revisit mine again.

Sounds Great! I played it again today. I think I was tired in the last video, today was better, but still more back pressure than I expected. I'm presently having a press fit lead pipe made for my mid bore Reynolds HiFi which has a very unfocused feel. I hope its the solution to a rare Reynolds model. Additionally I'm having another lead pipe made for my Olds P16 slide. that should help too!

Thank you!

My thing is to buy Junk & turn it into treasure. I have no use for nice or new horns, lol.

@@gregrobertson2726 A majority of my collection is Olds & Conn. They're fantastic!

@@gregrobertson2726 Ara you looking for a g bugle? Or the upright concert Baritone in this video?

@ upright baritone? Interesting. Info?

Me neither, this was a very rare and fortunate happening.

I really like the 6H for it's response & warm tone, but my main "meaty" horn will always be the 48H constellation with the Electro-D 4 layered Bell. I was talking to my friend who leads the Disneyland Band (you can find him in recent videos) He switched from the Yamaha Zeno to his 48H Constellation because he said he can push it much harder outdoors to keep up with the ensemble volume and it has more color capabilities.

@@1320_ikimasho I don't know anything about the thickness issue. I'll need to consult my associate who runs the Olds website called "It's a bear" He would likely know. But it sure feels great with the P-16 slide.

@@1320_ikimasho also I have a few colleagues who intentionally bought custom trombones with the option of extra thick & heavy bells. Everybody has their tastes.

​@ronzgarage in that particular case, I don't think Olds offered a "thick bell" option for the Studio, being that the Studio wasn't considered a "top of the line horn." I think it was just a slightly flawed design where the bell was just too thick. But who knows, anything is possible 😅.

@@1320_ikimasho cool! The early Argenta had a .520 bore, after they merged with Olds in the 70's it became a .515 bore and used Olds connectors which why yours is paired with an Olds bell.

​@ronzgarage the SN: 64635. When I say "Olds bell," I mean literally, the previous owner must have damaged the Reynolds bell and paired it with the bell from an Olds Standard from L.A. It doesn't screw on perfectly, but well enough to fit.

​@ronzgarage I measured the bore using a telescopic gauge and micrometer. It came out to be a .515 bore. It has a locking nut on the slide which means it was probably made by Olds

@@1320_ikimashowhy thank you! the Martin wasn't designed to warm up like other two. The Martin being yellow brass with all of its nickel parts will create a more pronounced treble clarity.

​@ronzgarage how does the TR602 compare to the TR100? Been trying to research the two. Thank you....

I've found a few on E-Bay, Reverb, Craigslist, various auctions sites, FB Marketplace, friends.

Also there is a Reynolds Emperor for sale now on Reverb.com

Not sure how the hand burnished finish will respond to a soft buffing wheel or I'll just hand polish, Stay tuned!

@@ronzgarage, I saw the second video, it came out beautiful. I hope you find it a good home. 🙂

Olds' first patent for fluted inner slide tubes (US Patent No. 2021323) was granted in 1935. A second patent (US Patent No. 2106327) for duo-octagonal inner slide tubes was granted in 1938. From what I know of tube drawing, the original fluted cross-section would have been difficult to manufacture. Legend has it that Olds never actually drew duo-octagonal tubes in Fullerton; supposedly, they were still working from a stock of tubes drawn at the Los Angeles factory when they closed down.

Once talked to an Earl Williams collector who thought that Earl had actually developed the fluted slide when he worked for Olds.

We'll see, I haven't totally committed to selling it yet.

Hey Thanks! I'm planning to do a review of my Martin Collection in the near future. BTW Urbie played the Committee prior to working with Martin / LeBlanc to design the TR450 in the early 80's. FYI the early Committee's are along the lines of the King 2B with a bore around .484 where the TR4501 is .500. Stay tuned and subscribe to my TH-cam channel if you haven't already.

@@zemry Thank You! It was a satisfying result.

@@chrismarbrey9678 it is applied to several models. Other King models that havr a sterling silver bell was often labeled the silver sonic.

@ronzgarage i was wondering which one that particular horn was, I had two 3B silver sonics and my friend had a 2B silver sonic pretty nice players.

​​@@chrismarbrey9678the one in my video is a 3B. I forgot to mention it oops.

It was a fun experiment, I'm glad you enjoyed how I played.

@@AnthonyPaular it's a lot.

@@BriandeMSU No, nothing plays like a 48H :'). The 48H has a 4 layered heavy weight bell. My spare nickel bell is a light weight nickel plated bell. Way different response. Warm but not as dark or colorful as Conn's masterpiece, the 48H Connstellation

​@@CatsNCows about .485. It gets airy starting at C above the staff. It has no air leaks however it barely has a venturi / lead pipe which is common with student level tbones. I may have one made because everything else seems worthy of a pro build.

@@robhar9496 you are way to kind

@@sandybeansconqueso thanks for the info, and thanks for watching.

​@@johnrudisill1894 wow. Everything I read says the P-15 & P-16 is a .500 bore. You may want to check the link to the P-15 specs I posted here.

@@ronzgarage I purchased it from the Brass Exchange - it's still in their Sold history but googlytube isn't allowing me to post the link. Brass Exchange has it measured at the .525. I haven't measure myself, but it's definitely larger than my Olds Super.

www.itsabear.com/horns/P-15/p-15.html

That's a rarity! I'd be curious to know what the SN dates to?

@@1320_ikimasho 1964

@@kypiper I don't. I've only purchased on trombone from the UK and it was an American brand.

@@CatsNCows me neither! That's why I pursued it.

@@gregrobertson2726 I was in the legacy corps at DCI 2023.

You can tell with my poor playing and cell phone microphone? Lol.

@@phattyroses WOW that's a great compliment.

@@majdan63 that happens with a majority of the trombones I buy.

@@schweec please do. Email me at ronzgarage@gmail.com I have many to choose from if you like pre-owned .