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Good to see another Nigerian who loves the Anglo-Catholic tradition.

Judgement? Anglicanism has been described as having "All the pageantry, none of the guilt"

right, slightly confused- you, an anglican, are claiming st john henry Newman, a convert to catholicism, a saint?

@@elijahwills7331 Hi Elijah, my suggestion is simply that the Anglican tradition has produced a significant contribution to the larger Christian tradition. And that people from many other traditions have been enriched by the contributions made by Anglicans (or, in Newman's case, an Anglican who eventually converted to Catholicism). I was speaking to those on this thread who were saying negative things about traditions other than own, and attempting to suggest that the Anglican tradition is worthy of respect.

@@robertmitchell3253 hello I understand the larger body of your comment, I just fail to see what you mean when you refer to john henry newman as a saint. The process of recognition as a saint is tied up with the holy see, and as you presumably see no primacy of the bishop of rome over the other sees of the world, why would you think that anyone canonized by the pope (at least post-reformation) a saint?

@@elijahwills7331 I think one of the hallmarks of Anglicanism is respect for other traditions. By referring to him as a saint, I am not making any judgement about him. I am acknowledging that his adopted Church, the Catholic Church, has declared him to be so. It's simply a gesture of respect for that tradition and his place within it. To not use the title given to him by his own denomination would seem rather disrespectful, in my opinion. The whole purpose of my original comment was to ask for respect for the Anglican tradition. For me not to offer it for the Catholic tradition would be rather hypocritical on my part!

Very eloquently expressed. Thank you 🙏

yes

Yes, sadly they are an endangered species. I remember wonderful High Church processions around the exterior of the church on Easter singing Vaughan William’s “Hail Thee Festival Day”. Very inspiring! And the beautiful annual processions at the Shrine of Our Lady of Walsingham.

Listen to that! If a church doesn't lick Rome's foot, it's full of heretics!! 🤣

@@adamm2693 your funny.

If you love Anglican liturgy, how about go to an Ordinariate Parish and become Catholic?

@@Thurifer2005 Because some or many of us would disagree with Catholic doctrine itself.

@@adamm2693 why just not admit that Catholic Doctrine is the truth? You know, Anglicans are heretics, right?

Good for you for doing it right. I have never been in an Orthodox church that was as informal as what you describe, but I have attended only Orthodox Church of America and Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia services, so that might explain it.

Sounds very strange for my understanding! Do this, as oft as ye shall drink it, in remembrance of me

Anglicans dont have valid holy orders, so it wasn’t really the body and blood of Christ.

@@King-uj1lh First, today's RCC is neither Roman (Rome is now a secular city with the Pope sequestered into his Vatican enclave) nor Catholic (having abandoned the Apostolic Tradition) nor is it a true Church (rather, it is a large neo-pagan cult). Second, the idea of the RCC as the continuing Church is false. After the Great Schism of 1054, the continuing Church was the Orthodox Church because Jerusalem (the East) predated Rome (the West). After the glorious Reformation, the continuing Church was the Reformed Church because the restored ethos (the "solas") of the Apostolic Church predated their corruption by apostate Romanism.

@@annefranciselizabeth3840 bro idc about ur uniformed slander of the true church.

We consider ourselves to be in the Light of the ancient Tradition. It is the radical protestants who are in darkness.

@@wfcoaker1398 indeed. I've always thought of Anglicanism as a revision. Extreme Protestants are so off their rockers, it's insane.

Krist-yon Narain Yes....sigh, very sad indeed.

Yes and it's even worse that most Catholics born after the 80's can hardly recognise our liturgy of 500+ years

I like it this way. It emphasises the superiority of Anglicanism and Episcopalianism over the novus ordo 'catholics' and over the erred ways of the overly traditional Tridentine Roman catholics.

I love a well executed liturgy but this has a bit too much hocus pocus for me.

@Traditional Catholicthe Stop blaming Vatican II. The 1962 Roman rite was the mass of Vatican II. 5 years after the close of the council, the church authorized the 1970 Roman Rite which introduced all of the changes in worship.

@Paul Bryan Catolico How dare you! Don't insult Nezuko's religion! Catholics are just as valid as any church. Have some respect!

The Tridentine mass has doubled in the last 10 years from 208 masses in 2007 to 480 in 2017. The splendor of the Church has indeed returned. Deus Vult!!

@@mosesking2923 "Not so fast!" - Pope Francis

As do you, according to Eastern Orthodoxy. Good news too - it would be way worse sacrilege the way communion is treated in Roman Catholicism.

There may be some radical orthodox who hold that opinion, but the majority recognize the validity of Catholic Holy Orders. What is clear beyond any shadow of a doubt is that both the Orthodox Church and the Catholic Church in the words of Pope Leo XIIII believe that , " Anglican Orders have always been, and continue to be ABSOLUTELY NULL AND UTTERLY VOID!" Nothing more than pretentious liturgical "drag show" in which overly dressed laymen and women pretend to be priests and play with bread and wine!

@@giovanniserafino1731 the bishop of Rome was excomunicated by the Bishop of Constantinople in 1054. If a priest is excommunicated, his orderes are null and void. The same is true for the bishop of Rome. Your church hasn't had a valid Eucharist since then. A pope got mad at the archbishop of Canterbury and then, in a fit of rage, declared the anglican orders to be invalid. No pope has authority over any church but his. He can't even run his own church so he can stay off of mine.

@@giovanniserafino1731 pope Leo XIIII was a pedophile. He was nothing to us.

Why's this good news? Are you happy?

It's not about the rite but about the Apostolic Tradition and anglicans fell away from it a few centuries ago.

From someone who was in the congregation: this wasn't a re-creation or re-construction, but an actual celebration of the Mass. We were not pretending to *be* in the 16th century, or passing ourselves off as anything other than members of the Anglican Church of Canada. If we were going for historical reproduction, we wouldn't have received Communion in both kinds either, and indeed there wouldn't be a mass at 6pm to begin with! Communion would also be restricted to those who had been confirmed, and all the priests would be not only men but also unmarried. I am pretty confident that Dean Neelands (a Hooker expert) could comfortably preach in authentic Tudor English but he did not contrive to do so.

If this were a Catholic Sarum Mass none of the protestant anglican liturgical abominations would be present. Like most of "High Church" Anglican worship it's sadly pretentious and is pretty much a " Liturgical drag Show!" As Pope Leo XIII said about Anglican Holy Order, "They have always been, and continue to be ABSOLUTELY AND UTTERLY VOID!"

R W funny that’s exactly what we think of anglicans

@ well this is our mass friend lol Brought to you by the Normans

The consecration is invalid, though, nor the mass is legal.

@@krzysztofkruczynski3789 The mass legal? Then why doesn't the police show up and stop it? Strange wording.

Anglicans have separated themselves from all the sacraments a few centuries ago, and one can't simply say that simple lay anglicans are just unaware of the one true catholic faith, when you study the Guy Fawkes case and the persecution of catholics.

How can you honestly prove that claim?

Jacob S Well for a start organs were used in medieval England....

Female altar servers is not a sacrilege for two very important reasons. 1. It is the Anglican Church of Canada which decides who can serve. 2. Galations chapter three says that gender is not important in the eyes of GOD. It's not sacrilege.

@@morganm5370 Yes but not in antiquity. Although the Use of Sarum in Salisbury is not a Gallican Rite but a use of the Roman Rite, it is still distinctly English. And in the ancient English tradition, ac capella was the standard, the use of the pipe organ is an innovation of Roman origin.

@@troyvance9533 Historically, acolytes, where men who had been confered in minor orders. They were, along with cantors, lectors, porters, and exorcists, all men. All the holy orders, both minor and major, are for men alone. This has ALWAYS been the case.

@@JacobSnell1998 I know that. I was in seminary for the Roman Catholic Church.

He's no bishop, because anglicans have invalid sacraments

@@krzysztofkruczynski3789 Says an invalid Romanist.

@@krzysztofkruczynski3789 I love the high-and-mighty "Catholic" way of things. "The only way to salvation is through us, said one of OUR leaders!"

You're right there. I don't know if the Kyrie was troped for ordinary Sundays or Lady Masses, but certainly for a feast like Candlemas. As for English Latin, I'm a big fan of it, but you don't often hear even professional choirs specializing in this repertoire use it - and (while they do know some details), I don't think there's a clear consensus on how exactly it would be pronounced, let alone the fact that (as with spoken English at the time) it would be pronounced differently in York than in Canterbury or London.

I went to Assisi twice as part of an ecumenical conference based upon the teachings of Fr. Thomas Berry. My tradition is very High Church Anglican & I preserve these exquisite and endangered traditions in my heart. At the same time I seek to reach out to other “points of Light” with the prayer that together we may change the negative direction of this world and together create a new Garden of Eden where we can glorify the Creator in love and harmony with each other and with great nature. Let us follow the example of both St. Francis and the Jewish tradition of Tikkun to heal this 🌍 world as compassionate and loving stewards.

@@lecaprice2572 “Tell me you’re a Kabbalist, without actually telling me you’re a Kabbalist.” There is only one path, my friend. All other roads lead to destruction. Ave Christus Rex!

@@permanenceaesthetic6545 🤔

"People not suffering from scrofula and cholera in a C16 english parish? I L A U G H "

polemeros I was thinking the same thing... errrrr

@@silenciummortum2193 you mean, that there are no congregants suffering from cholera AT ALL? Blasphemy!