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I came here from Spotify hoping what you spoke there has a video so I can watch the examples Kimberly going through. I wish you had the video versions available on Spotify as well. Great interviews keep doing it please :)

And once the PR is accepted , are you using style dictionary to handle the conservion to css?

Great news! Big feature releases lately 👏

Maybe a time off reward? free lunch?

Amy's response to Google Material Design being the best example of an accessible design system. Priceless! 🤣

What does ‘vanilla’ mean. Always thought that meant being super bland and non unique.

Having to sell the value of DS is about as reasonable as having to pitch the concept of "an assembly line" to automobile manufacturers. Of course you you can't just keep producing automobiles as one-offs

If you’re gonna play the politics then just know it’s gonna devolve into negative politics at some point. I.e. figuring out how to devalue and undermine your opponents, because wining budget is a zero sum game, there are limited resources at the end of the day, the cuts have to come from somewhere - so if not from your team it’ll be from support, qa, docs. The real solution has to be where DS become of intrinsic value to the way all companies outperform, a service or attraction that is indispensable and nobody ever questions, like the coffee and snacks in the break room. Nobody ever questions certain conveniences. Either that or practice some good ol nepotism and appeals to authority. Playing the metrics game only works from one year to the next, is exhausting, depletes your team resources and sanity

Great talk @zeroheight Where can we find the show notes as mentioned in the video?

My preference as a front-end developer / design systems engineer... build your own! 😁 Same with "vanilla" code... HTML/CSS/JavaScript, and Web Components.

Patrick brings significant value with his intelligence. I know this guy.

I am very much interested into the numbers abbreviation,especially with currencies. We have notations and symbol along with the currencies that makes it difficult to adjust in a single space. Also if you are supporting multi culture

loving the series Geri and Amy 👌🏾

its the everyday sexism line that killed me. But Jason and Jake Weary hilarious. Really good chat guys well done.

Deadpool 3 is marvels last hope

The comment about Material Design not allowing you to choose colours was strange -- they have an entire colour scheme generator, which you can further customize yourself. The discussion about the platform-first approach was very useful! I'm working on that right now.

"Rasterised Badlands" - great name for a heavy metal album! 🤣

Interesting talk! Where can we find the show notes mentioned during the conversation? 🙂 Any chance you could consider adding chapters to the videos, so we can skim through videos a bit more specific? Thanks!

Great talk. Could you consider adding chapters to the video description, so we can skim through the session a bit easier? Thanks! ✌

I love this thumbnail!

The hardest part of design is to keep business needs and design needs in balance

The way to discuss on DS additions is for the challenging designer and component to make an objective case as to why an existing component can’t accomplish their needs and aims. If some functionality can already be accomplished with existing components and patterns, then the principle of minimization and user familiarity holds for both code and design. Code minimization is one principle we all have to agree upon, is a community good. Minimization is good for users, good for qa and docs, it’s good for coders and finally for designers. How does an additional component / pattern not create user confusion and duplicity, code cruft, brand drift, and improve the lives of our teams not just introduce redundancy or change for the sake of change If we govern the DS based on mutually agreed principles/ manifesto of improving lives not just designer vision, ego, one-off user or marginal use case, then you have culture of teamwork vision and leadership not just DS governance based on personalities, arbitrary rules, subjective past experiences PS. totally unrelated rhetorical question: how much does “cognitive load” actually weigh?

Hey folks, it's great what you are doing and i am looking forward to the new episode every time. But i realized that i keep counting the word "like" that you use like a lot of like times in a single sentence. I don't want to sound like a jerk, but it's like not professionallll and it makes me scream, sorry i said it. :) I Like like this episode.;)

:) What a wonderful talk. I learnt a lot from Annalisa, Catherine, Jérôme and Henry :D. Now I have more information on how to create a design system governance

Is there any way to "undo" an action in ZeroHeight? I've been struggling with this for so long.

❤❤❤❤ A new episode! Thank a Lot!

This was so useful and inspiring, thank you both!

Super insightful, thanks for this

Great episode. I definitely want to see an episode on token naming!!!

Thank you all for what you do! Curious, you mentioned you add links to your show notes. Where exactly are you referring to - here, on Apple, or a zeroheight blog perhaps?

Such a great talk Geri!

Man he closes this talk so strong and it's such a more eloquent way of pitching what I have to so many design teams - we want to empower your designers and developers to make the tough, human decisions without having to think about the small things every single time. Great talk.

Understand how the LLMs and output models are built. Even from a a mathematical and probabilistic level to get the most out of them. I recommend Stephen Wolfram as a staring point. You have to stop talking about AI or ChatGPT like it's magic hidden behind a curtain.

I'm looking forward to the next episode about token naming.😀

There is a lot of discussion about design systems, but when it comes to the practical application of variables or tokens or moving from a legacy user interface to a new one using tokens, there are still many information gaps. Designers find their ways to create design systems of their products by making lots of iterations and mistakes. Please create more videos about the practical application of design systems and the pitfalls that exist along the way.

Loved the webinar, will be referring back to it. Thank you for posting 🙏

omg, get out of my head! 😂 This talk felt like Luke had reached into my mind and organised a bunch of things I've been thinking about into an awesome cohesive talk. 👏👏👏

Intro: 0:28 Housekeeping things 2:45 Upcoming events 3:53 Our speakers Discussion: 7:24 What are most people talking about regarding Design Systems? 10:46 What impact do Figma Variables have on Design Systems? 20:45 Naming convention - does it have to be the same for design and code, or is it adequate to follow different conventions as long as they are matched in the documentation? 26:10 What type of consideration do we have at Zeroheight about how best to facilitate effective communication between all members of the product team? 30:42 How can we blend our experience with diverse organizational perspectives when designing for Design Systems, especially for organizations dealing with multiple brands or themes? 33:56 What trends have you all seen working in Design System adoption? Any advice on how to get teams on the same page and make sure that folks are are actually using the Design System? 41:29 Do you all have any suggestions for rolling out the first Enterprise Design System across multiple product areas? Is there anything that's necessary pre-launch, during launch, post launch? 45:34 How do you measure the success of the Design System? Is there anything beyond the obvious metrics like adoption and the number of detaches? 48:58 Do y'all have any recommendations for skills both hard and soft that Design Systems particularly require that might be a little bit different from hiring for different roles? 51:20 What are y'all's thoughts on building an in-house repository for the Design System versus leveraging open source libraries like MUI? Pros and cons to both if so what what are those? 55:47 Based on current trends and what you've noticed what advice would you give to people who are starting a Design System?

I'm trying to get USWDS components to show up live on zeroheight and I'm finding it very hard. Can someone help me?

Can we have a way to render like this for Flutter? Or is it already possible?

Great Webinar, very interesting to me. Other questions I would have love to learn from are: "is your DS digital or physical", "is your DS private or publicly available?". I work at Logitech and have been documenting guidelines for 15 years. 100% are physical design: hardware and firmware.

Hello, I like this solution very much! Thank you for that. But if we are already using Storybook for code-based components, is there any additional value for the live code feature?

Thanks for having us Zeroheight! It was a pleasure ❤

👏👏👏 nice one Ellis!

😪 "PromoSM".

Nice, the video description says private too which isn't the case currently. Most clients I have don't use public packages for their UI so having the ability to configure which registry and an accesstoken would be highly appreciated :)

long waited

Good news