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bitterOrange
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2016
hey, it's bitterorange, and welcome to my channel!
Pretty much your standard K-pop channel. Multi-stan, a huge 2nd generation fan, but I try not to be obnoxious about it.
I really only created this channel because I had no one around me to talk about K-pop with, and I needed an outlet to share my thoughts.
I hope you guys enjoy my videos as I learn to make them.
Age: 22
Pronouns: She/her
Pretty much your standard K-pop channel. Multi-stan, a huge 2nd generation fan, but I try not to be obnoxious about it.
I really only created this channel because I had no one around me to talk about K-pop with, and I needed an outlet to share my thoughts.
I hope you guys enjoy my videos as I learn to make them.
Age: 22
Pronouns: She/her
Kpop and Deadly Rumours
In this video, I’m talking all about K-pop rumors and how they can totally wreck careers. Whether it’s fake scandals or gossip spreading online, we’ll break down how these rumors get started and the damage they can cause to idols and the industry. Stay tuned as we dive into how quickly things can spiral out of control and the lasting effects it can have on everyone involved.
Music videos used:
Aespa - Whiplash
Rosé, Bruno Mars - Apt.
Billie - Trampoline
Wendy - Wish You Hell
IVE - Off the Record
Itzy - Imaginary Friend
IU - Love Wins All
Eunha, Ravi - Blossom
Loco, Hwasa - Don’t(Above Live)
Chuu - Honeybee
Anda - Touch
Bibi - Hongdae R&B
Blackpink - Kill This Love
JYP - Groove Back
Illit - Cherish (My Love)
Music used:
Red Velvet - Knock Knock instrumental
Wonder Girls - Rewind instrumental
Illit - Midnight Fiction instrumental
Music videos used:
Aespa - Whiplash
Rosé, Bruno Mars - Apt.
Billie - Trampoline
Wendy - Wish You Hell
IVE - Off the Record
Itzy - Imaginary Friend
IU - Love Wins All
Eunha, Ravi - Blossom
Loco, Hwasa - Don’t(Above Live)
Chuu - Honeybee
Anda - Touch
Bibi - Hongdae R&B
Blackpink - Kill This Love
JYP - Groove Back
Illit - Cherish (My Love)
Music used:
Red Velvet - Knock Knock instrumental
Wonder Girls - Rewind instrumental
Illit - Midnight Fiction instrumental
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Anime-Coded K-pop Songs
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My attempt at tackling the ‘anime-coded’ Kpop songs and why they are considered anime-coded. Hope I was able to give some idea as to why these songs are considered anime-coded, and I’m really happy with the editing with this video. So glad it didn’t get copyrighted too. Timestamps: 00:01 opening sentence & channel intro 00:17 Video introduction 01:10 What makes an anime opening? 02:50 examples ...
Why Fans Need to Stop Overanalyzing Idols
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The Rise & Fall of Mature Concepts
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This is a small overlook over the mature concept that was quite popular during the second and third generation in K-pop. Looking at it’s history and why it was so popular, from groups like AOA to recent success of Kiss of Life. Hope you guys enjoy the video. Timestamps: 00:01 intro hook 00:21 Introduction 01:13 Disclaimer 01:41 Girl Power is Sexy 05:52 Idol Vs. Image 07:29 The Appeal of Sensual...
Where Has Christian Horse Girl Music Gone?
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A genre that's dying for a revival. Christian Horse Girl had a strong presence during the 3rd generation of K-pop but slowly fizzled away unlike any other concept. Sure concepts come and go away, but the almost complete disappearance of Christian Horse Girl music is sad for many enthusiasts like myself. In the video, I'll review how to identify Christian Horse Girl music and why this genre is s...
The Language of K-pop
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I thought I would go over some interesting terms the K-pop fandom uses and explain how they are used. Hope you enjoy the video even if these words aren't new to you. Time stamps: 00:01 Intro 00:19 Disclaimers 00:43 Maknaes 02:00 Sasaengs 03:35 Aegyo 04:25 KBS 05:25 Stan/Bias 06:17 Generations 08:34 The Big Three 10:46 Pick me 12:01 Dozen 13:45 Outro
Where Have All the Kpop Positions Gone?
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There's been a pretty obvious decline of groups declaring their members' positions, from popular groups like TXT, NMIXX, and Newjeans all opting out of using positions. So in this video, I go over my opinions on K-pop positions and whether or not I'll miss em'. Timestamps: 00:00 Channel Opening 00:23 Introduction 01:28 Leader Position 05:23 Talent Positions 08:27 Maknae Position 12:14 Visuals, ...
Things Companies Do That I Hate
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Consider this my second part of my unpopular opinions video, but instead of going over things K-pop fans do that I dislike, I'll be going over things companies do that don't appeal to me. The title is a bit of an exaggeration, I don't hate a lot of these things, but I needed a good title. 00:11 Channel Opening 00:23 Introduction 01:21 Lore 04:31 Survival Shows 07:05 Vlives, Talk shows, etc. 09:...
Concluding thoughts on the Min Heejin Scandal
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I feel as though this Min Heejin scandal with Hybe has completely consumed all K-pop discourse. While I don't have much to say about the actual press conference and the legal battle, so now that it's over, I thought I'd discuss what I disliked that was happening within fan spaces. I feel that's the only domain I feel truly comfortable discussing. 00:031 Introduction 02:19 Danielle and Eunchae's...
Making The Perfect Summer Comeback
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A silly video in which I go over what type of genres and comebacks I would like to see done in Kpop. Timestamps: 00:01 Intro 01:05 Afrobeats Comeback 04:21 Reggaeton Comeback 08:41 Bossa Nova Comeback 12:44 Conclusions Songs used: - ‘Knock Knock’ -Twice (instrumentals) - ‘Water’ - Tyla (instrumentals) - ‘Oki Doki’ - Karol G (instrumentals) - ‘Chega de Saudade’ - Joao Gilberto (instrumentals) Kp...
Disrespectful Ways Kpop Treats Passed Idols
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I wanted to go over how deceased idols are disrespected within our K-pop community. From being dragged into drama that isn't relevant to them to completely ignoring their work as an artist. I go over specific idols and their own form of disrespect, so if you want to skip to one idol, I'll drop some time stamps below if you're interested. 00:01 Preview 00:20 Introduction 01:16 Go Hara 03:51 Sull...
Hated Songs I love (and vice versa)
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In this video, I'll be going over hated songs that I love and loved songs that I hate. I guess this is just to show what kinda of music I personally enjoy. Just a little disclaimer, in the section in which I go over songs I hate, you can't get offended. You gotta expect me to be a little bit of a hater. 00:01 Intro 00:35 Hush Rush - Chaeyeon 01:15 Signal - Twice 02:43 Beautiful Monster - StayC ...
(semi) unpopular k-pop opinions
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The title is pretty self-explanatory. Some of my opinions about K-pop, some more unpopular than others. 00:11 intro 00:37 Lip Syncing isn't that bad 02:43 Vocal Tiers Are Stupid 04:09 International fans are just as bad as Knetz 05:55 BTS are better as soloists than in a group 07:38 Miyeon Girlyfying Boy Group Dances isn't sexist 09:43 G-idle makes polarizing music and stops the xenophobic comme...
Hyuna's New Problematic Boyfriend(Burning Sun Scandal)
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Check up on your a-ings and former a-ing friends, these are trying times. This video goes about why so many people are mad at Hyuna and her recent dating news. Also leave Go Hara's name out of this. Let that woman rest in peace instead of dragging her name for something as petty as proving Hyuna isn't a girl's girl for dating an ex. Shame on you seriously sources: Article: Burning Sun Scandal: ...
The Rivalry Between Girls Generation and 2ne1
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The Rivalry Between Girls Generation and 2ne1
and I couldn't agree more
It's my first time seeing one of your videos, it was great! Good job
Thank you!
That's exactly what Jungkook try to said, "Artists shouldn't get hurt because of internal management," he was trying to help, the same thing we all thought at first. But what no one expected was that MHJ controlled New Jeans on a psychological level. These immature girls chose to follow her, dooming themselves. Then it turned out that Hanni is despicable. I defended them a lot at the beginning and now I think that unfortunately they brought their own failure upon themselves.
100% agree
Unicode debut is so Christian horse girl and I think you might like it
Ooh thanks for the recommendation, I will definitely be adding it to my Christian Horse Girl playlist!
th-cam.com/video/3eR5jrNGs4w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4wnUrT9ui5RX3co6 I always felt like this song gives 90s anime soo much like the intro…the 2nd chorus leading up to the bridge
@@mayhemark Didn’t know you could hyperlink in comments lol, but thanks for the recommendation. I love early SNSD songs.
Okay but what's the song in your introduction?💗
@@edensurfer4239 It’s Red Velvet’s Knock Knock but only its instrumental. I leave a list of all songs used in my description.
@@bitterOrangish thank you ❤️
@@edensurfer4239 yeah no problem :)
All of dreamcatcher early songs are like anime op song also QWER songs
Nemo nemo by Yena is truly a jpop coded song❤
One of the most anime-coded kpop songs Ive heard is RUN TO YOU by SEVENTEEN. You should definitely hear it out if you like these kind of songs!
starting with the best song ever 🙏🙏
Csr shining bright is so love live
@@Vivid-cx7by so true!!!
I feel Fate and Plot Twist is VERY anime coded , specifically Something like Your Name
songs that i felt like very anime coded : f(x) - sweet witches : magical girl shoujo vibes lovelyz - shining star : either idol anime or magical girl anime elris - roopretelcham : again very magical girl oriented snsd - girlfriend : gives me more like early 90s shoujo anime about school life f(x) - is it ok? : a very dramatic shoujo anime TVXQ - Dream : feels like a very shounen sporty slice of life type of anime
i'm surprised you didn't include Seventeen's Run To You! Woozi is a HUGE anime/manga fan, It sounds like an anime intro song. Its one of my favourite Seventeen tracks.
@@TheKPopLife01 i was thinking of adding Seventeen in the list but ultimately didn’t for the sake of having variety of artists of different popularity and generations. But now I kind of wish I did add them.
Yena's Nemo Nemo sounds like a slice of life or comedic high school anime intro song
I always imagine "Fly High" as an opening for an anime about all-girls military school who study about operating war robots like Gundam, and is also angsty. Smth like Darling in the Franxx, but all female characters hahah.
Thank you for this! Gehlee has showed nothing but her true self and if others can’t accept that (because they are ugly and insecure) then they can just leave her alone 🙄🙄🙄
2:51 its Geh/Lee or Jelly.
Yeah it’s jelly
really good points made! reminds me of the T-ARA bullying scandal where the girls were proven innocent but the company held the information for so long that it was too late. the public had just decided based on "video evidence" how the girls were bullying Hwayoung even though she herself and her twin sister were the ones threatening and causing trouble for the other members and staff.
Thanks for supporting UNIS and specially Gehlee. I saw Gehlee that's why I listen well. Your opinions is correct. We should not judge or speculatd Idols, they just humans they have limitations. Supporting them with or without perfection, just be happy with them and love them.
REAL. The way people used behavorial anylsis to prove that Soojin and Jimin were bullies was also so weird
i loveee hearing people define christian horsegirl kpop in their own words because it's such a special subgenre of kpop to me. thank you for putting together this video! i would really like to see you discuss literally any other kpop concept too cause you're great at explaining music-related concepts
@@yubinification aw thank you so much! I definitely do want to make more videos on subgenres, they’re just way harder.
Manon solo Stan was protecting her and everyone was mad how they treated her !
7:17 oh my god i cant look at the screen anymore she looks scary asf
I want to disagree with one specific thing: That sexy idols are shy offstage, doesn't means their onstage performances are a persona. Some people just do a 180 in terms of confidence when they dance, I'm such a person myself and I find Soojin one of the people most relatable in the idol industry when it comes to personality. it's part of why people say, 'Its always the quiet ones'.
@@inferiorinferno8859 I agree. I didn’t want to paint idols having different sides to them as something bad but rather the public perception as something problematic.
I absolutely love all the KATSEYE members and seeing that the solo stans shit on all the girls except Manon is making me so mad.
I wish there are female groups like KIOF more but not debut minor.
Katseye are going to be fine even if their Stan’s are bad for them that’s just what happens when you’re under a bigger company plus the girls are really liked
I am from Philippines 🇵🇭, most Filipinos supported not only Sophia even from DA, i personally like Yoonchae, Lara, Megan, Daniella, Manon.. and had voted for them.. Manon solo stan’s actions made us react as it was already necessary to defend both Sophia and Lara.. more like “look what you made me do”… anyways, everyone is now quite and very mindful.. hopefully it’s over cause i really love Katseye.
i hope you weren't one of those disgusting fans making racists comments.... idk why people still but hurt about the situation they hugged they need to get over it moanon fans where already mad because people where already calling her racist stuff then after the documentary it started a war the whole situation is beyond slow people shouldn't even be taking sides a defended 3 of the girls and others too like every fan that was attacking one another need to take accountability and stop pointing fingers...
@@lolpoop7685 Literally I don't know why they even know why they said "look what you made me do" like that's a good thing like all of them are hypocrites arguing with each other and pointing finger I hope they don't think other Phillipino people act like that because I sure dont I defend all the girls also so stupid to choose a side even thought it could have been handle better the girls got over it and it was 2 years ago people and there weak hearts
@@lolpoop7685 I hope people don't think most Phillipines people act like this because I don't and sure don't use a exuse as "look what you mad me do" that was corby and childish all 3 of the girls should have support for there Fandom not the disgusting hate no one wants to take accountability I supported all 3 of them it was stupid to choose a side
@@hellopeople-n5r literally especially when all 3 groups had weird toxic solo fans no one want to be accountable for there action literally speeded hate to the members but not the person who commented the comment like that's weird i hate when ppl blame the members for peoples actions... like im blasin and getting slurs putting out to me because im telling people to stop spreading hate all three members and the funny thing is they only use black rasical slurs to me when im also koren/indian its just a bunch of people that has asain feistiest or racists Asians and it still wont make me be do the same to them because that's disgusting..
@@lolpoop7685 clock it.... thats horrible I hope people group up and get better
Solo Stans make being fans themselves embarrassed and ashamed and it’s annoying love all members and respect them and support each group and everyone in the group its not a competition between the members each member do have something to bring to the group and to the table
Newjeans getting jumped over them being attached to MHJ sucks hopefully her not being CEO anymore will sever their uncomfortable relationship
The thing I don’t like when it comes to Katseye solo stans is that it’s only Manon fans who get called out when the other solo fans are just as nasty
14:16 You really make great analysis here. I think that's what happened with BTS, during their early debut they got a lot of hate and scandals, even until now. That's what make Army unite to protect the boys. When you see on twitter, it's mostly Army vs other fandoms, that creates the strong sense of unity, eventho there are toxic solos within the fandom.
When it comes to skz for example I only like Han and felix and I think that’s okay but what isn’t okay is when you hate the other members that’s the issue with solo stans
Solo stans can destroy a fandom's unity if the fandom itself isn't strong and big on the first place. The other factor is the members closeness with eo, no matter how loud and annoying solos are, if members have strong friendship, nothing gonna break the group.
Why making such thing about manon solos instead of addressing about whole issue to three members ( lara, manon and Sophia) both solos are attacking eo but you choose to put blame on manon solos
Bts has alot of * dangerous * solos to the extent of giving them death threats and stalking them, creating rumours and forced hate so celebrities sometimes go through alot , you need to be strong and mentally stable
also kpop fans, young or old, all have this BLACK OR WHITE state of mind no shades of grey at all to speak of so whenever says "she isn't pretty" or "she can't sing" EVERYONE IMMEDIATELY CALLS THAT HATE cause in order to process CRITICISM and OPINION your brain has to ALSO be able to process SHADES OF GREY the moment you view life as BLACK or WHITE only it means you're a CHILD! regardless how old you are. imagine if your mom approached you and said "YOU DID ONE THING I DID NOT LIKE SO THEREFORE FROM NOW ON I HATE YOU" that makes no sense.. so what if you got D- in math does that mean your mom hates you completely now? NO!? so you ARE capable of processing shades of grey!! so why is it when a fan just expresses an opinion of criticism suddenly you forget all those shades of grey and immediately go to "HATER!!!!!!!!!!" maybe control your emotions and show some maturity
sophia and lara also have/had solo stans and i think most of what bothered actual manon solo stans (not just ppl who started stanning from the docu) was how other solo stans reacted to everything saying they didn’t do anything wrong when the way they went about everything WAS wrong or that manon is lazy when she is a member who’s probably improved the MOST. but they’ve moved on and actually seem close so it was a bit stupid to camp in their comments hating on behalf of manon, lara, and/or sophia over something that happened 2 years ago for them. i’m glad they reacted to everything in a joking way. i wish idols could do that when their fans start becoming a little too parasocial
I understand where yall coming from but hear me out if a specific member is your favorite there is a measurable reason for that member being your favorite you didn't just pick her name out of a hat at random there was something she did that was BETTER than the other members that caught your eye so if its her beauty you admire then it makes sense that the rest of the members would be LESS ATTRACTIVE than her and in this instance I dont see nothing wrong by stating that as a subjective opinion.. same with singing or dancing or whatever.. just cause your opinion isn't fact doesn't mean you need to COWER behind fake-humility and self-deprecation humor ..be couragous and PATRONIZE YOUR BIAS TO THE MAX! its all hyperbole anyways so who cares its not like we're talking about quantum physics and philosophy its just pop music and idols.. who gives a flyin f. if my dad is stronger than my mom then it makes no sense why I would say "both are equally as strong but I prefer my dad's muscles" it makes ZERO sense to say that just to mollycuddle my mom's emotions AND THE PEOPLE WHO MY MOM MIGHT BE THEIR BIAS lmfao if I prefer a certain member more than others, for whatever reason I am going to state that reason everywhere I can and as much as I want thankfully freedom of speech isn't illegal yet but I see that yall are tryin to create a law against it cause your snowflake feelings are being hurt by people simply being blunt about their preferences
All groups have this issue. You can go all the way back to the Supremes, w/Diana Ross, the Jackson 5 with Michael Jackson, Destiny’s Child w/Beyonce, the Pussycat Dolls, etc. There will always be one member who is the most popular. Singling out Manon is wrong and saying that she is the cause of a riff is way off. People have attacked Sophia and Lara because they came across as mean and jealous and not being able to assess the situation. If they had not voiced their petty jealousy they wouldn’t be in this situation. The fact that they voiced their displeasure in the way they did showed a lack of professionalism just as they were claiming that Manon had no professionalism. Loose lips sink ships.
The difference with fans that voted for Sophia, Lara, etc based on nationality and/or race is these typically weren't the ONLY the reasons people voted for them. All the girls are pretty, but Manon fans outright admitted her singing/dancing skills are severely lacking and they just didn't care, which obviously bugs people that care about these things. Even then, I don't personally mind if one person is more of a "visual", but in kpop idols tend to be more humble with impeccable work ethic (or at least give this appearance.) The doc made it clear that Manon is lacking in those aspects as well, so there's yet another divide for people that value those qualities in the kpop genre itself. Manon is at an age where I don't necessarily believe she was ignorant of how she was affecting others, and add on top of that she's clearly wealthy, so it gives off the vibe that she's used to get away with putting less effort in. I could be wrong, but I don't think people turn around bad habits like this quite so quickly. So, here we are with a member not only lacking in the skills required for her job, but also in personality aspects that attracted people to kpop to begin with, and her fans that just wanted her to "win" at any cost. Great start for bringing kpop to the west.... maybe it'll work anyway, but to me it takes away the main reason to be invested in the group. If I wanted someone hungry for fame and overshadowing others, I would've voted for Brooklyn who at least had a better skill set and didn't miss practice, meetings, etc.
@NickaLah manon is making bag while you keep commenting on videos related to her and there's nothing you can do about it, PERIOD
I love how people conveniently leave out the amount of lara and sophia solo stans
Exactly my point
Some of these katseye fans are weird and very toixc they just want a reason to hate Manon or the other members like people don't want to talk about the Rasim Manon received before they even debuted I saw a comment "why is a black person here" i was like what even got a racist remark saying "you black people think..." with a monkey emoji and I was like sir i'm blasain and they got quite all I was doing was telling them stop being toxic . I hate some of the fans want to just call out Manon toxic solo fans like if you're going to call something out call everything out because the other members like Lara and Sophia fans was very racist also and spreading hate keep that in mind and why are some the fans so but hurt what happen in the documentary more than the actual memebers if they hugged and got over it why are you still hurt and talking about especially when I see comments like " Manon think she above everyone did you see the documentary" or " lara and sophia started it" like girl that was filmed 1 or 2 years ago get over it all they girls improved and left the bad and are moving forward on the good... if your still hurt and spreading hate ...I think you need to talk to a therapist because something mental is going on
Bini Mikha fans will find an excuse to bring up Mikha everytime even if a post is not about her. I absolutely love Mikha but her solo stans are really annoying
So this phenomenon has been going on since the thethe Supremes in the 60s… I mean Diana Ross… and the Supremes.
but I love sunmi...😭
Ricky was my one pick in BP when it ended I was ready to stan love all of them in the group but the way w1 is managing the group is like zhang hoa, Hanbin and friends they get everything it's like BP all over again. I wouldn't have a problem if my bias Ricky was not being managed like shit You can go to any zb1 content Ricky is not there they will post one video to make fans stop complaining that's it no lines in the songs and no screen time it just feels like how can I stan other members when my bias is tried like shit but I don't hate on the other member i focus on supporting Ricky.
I just want to preface since some Manon stans are already getting defensive. I like Manon, and I had been rooting for her since Dream Academy. I am still rooting for her. With that being said I also won’t tolerate hate for Manon in the comments. My video isn’t an outlet nor is it a safe space for Manon hate.