I can't seem to feel much towards anyone anymore except a handful of people non of them romantic i am like the phantom my one good friend is with me but that's it going forward besides family and my two dogs that's it
Whatever phantom did (murdering people) cannot be overlooked however he hasn’t known anything but cruelty of the society at young age and loneliness thereafter. And then he listens to Christine sing and he gets mesmerised by her. His mind doesn’t work like a normal person with morals and ethics. He is obsessed with Christine. The first murder he did was of Joseph and he did it out of irritation as his repeated demands to let Christine sing as lead were denied and Joseph was almost about to catch him. Later when he sees Christine and Raoul he just looses it completely because he couldn’t believe that she would betray him like that as she is the only person for the entire world for him so his next murder of peiangi is purely out of vengeance. He would have killed Raoul as well if Christine wouldn’t comply with him but then she kisses him and that’s the first touch of his life is like an epiphany for him so he let Christine go. That’s his story. As far as Christine goes, I found her selfish. Phantom taught her everything and made her who she was but the first chance she got to be with rich and handsome Raoul she takes it and leaves the man who made her behind “ he was bound to love you when he heard you sing” yes phantom was the villain but he was made into a villain by society and Christine herself.
I think we could be a little more charitable to Christine, especially in this movie as she was only 16 years old. She’s not worldly, she’s still an innocent who was fooled by the Phantom into believing he was an angel sent from her dead father. The Phantom is frankly just too much for her, he’s a very mentally damaged, complex, and dark man in more ways then one…he is her sexual awakening on one level, but he scares the living daylights out of her on another level. I don’t think she went with Raoul in the end because he’s rich and handsome, she felt safe with him, when she no longer felt safe with the Phantom as he’d just murdered a man…and she had a history with Raoul so they weren’t strangers. But you are completely right that it’s not Eriks fault that he doesn’t know how to love normally, that he has no emotional regulation and goes absolutely manic when threatened…that’s his defense mechanism, as he never experienced a healthy relationship or real love from anyone not even from his mother…so you can’t expect him to understand how to show love to another in a healthy way.
Why didn't they keep this it is so BEAUTIFUL ngl i understand why hes psycho,he has trauma i understand that. (Im not psycho) Like tbh through the whole movie i just wanted to hug him idc what he did and id share Jesus with him. Also id pick the phantom over raol😅
It was suppose to go after Madam Giry’s backstory, and everyone felt it slowed things down too much, which I understand, you need to get back to the action or your audience will get restless. I feel they should have just kept the song the same, instead of rewriting it and still had it at the end credits…I think it would have been more poignant after seeing that last shot of the rose and ring that we get the Phantom literally singing about Christine, instead of Minnie Driver singing Learn to be Lonely. No One Would Listen is a better song, and even if it didn’t make it into the film itself it shouldn’t have been changed.
Assisti o filme e fiquei mal pelo Fantasma. Agora, vendo essa cena excluida do filme, coitado! Vivia num mundo sozinho e sem nenhum tipo de afeto! Música linda e que te toca no fundo do coração! Se entrasse essa cena no filme, todos iriam torcer pelo Fantasma ficar com a Cristine e não Raul.
It's sad that this part is not in the movie, I think it shows how vulnerable the Phantom is and what makes him human in amidst of his own madness. It shows that even the "mighty-oh-so-spoopy" Phantom is actually just like everyone else, that even HE could get hurt. (I feel like Sir Butler's moody broody sexiness appeal here is cute, hehe ^//^ Makes me want to go there and give him a good big hug, wrap him in a cozy blanket, and serve him some hot cocoa..., and perhaps start the therapy session.... ^^; ) I think it's not bad to show the audience this side of the Phantom, because in the end, the Phantom is but a human. But I guess it's a bit hard to put this scene in the story line... I'm just curious with the script that leads to this scene and what comes after.
It was planned to go after Why so silent?/Madame Giry's backstory of the Phantom. When he sits down at the end, you can see his red mantle of the Red Death costume on the chair back.
I had the DVD. How did I miss this deleted scene?! I always LOVED the music but the lyrics were too hopeless. This at least gives a story about the phantom. Came at the right time though. I'm planning my wedding next year and it's going to be POTO themed ❤️
The Phantom has low self-esteem due to his deformity. He closes him self no one hears his heart thst is full of love but he doesnt know how to express it. Just Christine know because she felt the same. Interesting, sweetie. Why dont you find the way to put it on stage in Bellas Artes , Luis A Ferré en San Juan, Puerto Rico? And part of what it raised is given to non- profit Institution. Its good idea., sweetie. 🌹🌹🥰🥰
I always wondered where this would be in the movie itself, clearly after he found out Raoul and her kissed but i imagine it was the part right before the Masqurade in as we can see the play for Don Juan Triumphant is in the back but still in the process, and if you watch the scene where Erik and Christine walk up the stairs to meet, the instrumental part of this plays for a bit before he gets mad. At this point he isn't mad at her, he believes that she is just being fooled by Raoul since he is handsome and only now noticed her both as a person and a talent. If anyone has any thoughts when this is go ahead and comment, im actually curious.
Honestly I probably would have stayed with the Phantom. Not because he was innocent, but because he needed someone to show him love. I would not marry him unless I saw some significant changes. But if someone had just taken the time to show him love earlier, he would not have killed all those people. He was no doubt a genius. A genius with good influences, becomes a great man. But a genius that knows nothing but hate, becomes a murderer. Just my thoughts.
I've listened to my love emptiness and loneliness and he hurt it me the most in my whole life......I loved him with all my heart. He was the first love of my life. I miss him a lot. The relationship was toxic...I realized after 3 years...I had to run away to keep myself safe and protect my heart. I am praying for him.
] No one would listen No one but her Heard as the outcast hears. Shamed into solitude Shunned by the multitude I learned to listen In my dark, my heart heard music. I longed to teach the world Rise up and reach the world No one would listen I alone could hear the music Then at last, a voice in the gloom Seemed to cry "I hear you; I hear your fears, Your torment and your tears." She saw my loneliness Shared in my emptiness No one would listen No one but her Heard as the outcast hears No one would listen No one but her Heard as the outcast hears
@thatARTISTICguy I understand what you are saying,but he loved Christine long before letting Raul and Christine go. He looked over her since the time she came to the opera house, he tutored her,left her gifts, protected her from the hate and harm her endured at the hands of others. Did you forget that he was cruelly whipped, abused physically, emotionally, mentally, mocked, spit on, laughed at, and publicly humiliated in a human freak circus, and shunned daily. He was labeled as a "devil child" by the circus master that profited from this and abandoned by his own mother because of his physical appearance. Society abused him, mistreated him, shunned him, and treated him like a beast of the wild. Society made him an angry, bitter, outcast and you say he is not to be forgiven because he acted out the way he did. The only love,kindness, and gentleness he was shown was from Madame and Christine, and even Christine's love was of a fickle nature . Now, I ask you how would you feel and be if you endured all the Phantom did? To live a life hiding from the world, living alone and learning to be lonely.😢 No,my empathy is for the Phantom
Teniendo a un hombre así a mi lado como el fantasma que fuera mi maestro,mi ángel mi compañero de vida,que me protegiera definitivamente me hubiera ido con el
I really liked this song and I never knew why they cut it out. I think maybe it gets us to know the Phantom a little too much and takes away his mystique.
Everyone hated him for not being a professional singer but I truly believe they picked a perfect actor. Gerard shows so much passion as the phantom through out the film. He may not have the best voice but still is so passionate
Sir Webber told himself that he didn't care Butler is not a trained singer. He said what is important in the movie is to convey the feelings in a different way, and the emotions it evokes. Cinema and musical theater are different.
I can't seem to feel much towards anyone anymore except a handful of people non of them romantic i am like the phantom my one good friend is with me but that's it going forward besides family and my two dogs that's it
Perfectly performed by Gerard! R.I.P. Joel Schumacher but this scene SHOULD have been in the movie.
Whatever phantom did (murdering people) cannot be overlooked however he hasn’t known anything but cruelty of the society at young age and loneliness thereafter. And then he listens to Christine sing and he gets mesmerised by her. His mind doesn’t work like a normal person with morals and ethics. He is obsessed with Christine. The first murder he did was of Joseph and he did it out of irritation as his repeated demands to let Christine sing as lead were denied and Joseph was almost about to catch him. Later when he sees Christine and Raoul he just looses it completely because he couldn’t believe that she would betray him like that as she is the only person for the entire world for him so his next murder of peiangi is purely out of vengeance. He would have killed Raoul as well if Christine wouldn’t comply with him but then she kisses him and that’s the first touch of his life is like an epiphany for him so he let Christine go. That’s his story. As far as Christine goes, I found her selfish. Phantom taught her everything and made her who she was but the first chance she got to be with rich and handsome Raoul she takes it and leaves the man who made her behind “ he was bound to love you when he heard you sing” yes phantom was the villain but he was made into a villain by society and Christine herself.
I think we could be a little more charitable to Christine, especially in this movie as she was only 16 years old. She’s not worldly, she’s still an innocent who was fooled by the Phantom into believing he was an angel sent from her dead father. The Phantom is frankly just too much for her, he’s a very mentally damaged, complex, and dark man in more ways then one…he is her sexual awakening on one level, but he scares the living daylights out of her on another level. I don’t think she went with Raoul in the end because he’s rich and handsome, she felt safe with him, when she no longer felt safe with the Phantom as he’d just murdered a man…and she had a history with Raoul so they weren’t strangers. But you are completely right that it’s not Eriks fault that he doesn’t know how to love normally, that he has no emotional regulation and goes absolutely manic when threatened…that’s his defense mechanism, as he never experienced a healthy relationship or real love from anyone not even from his mother…so you can’t expect him to understand how to show love to another in a healthy way.
Why didn't they keep this it is so BEAUTIFUL ngl i understand why hes psycho,he has trauma i understand that. (Im not psycho) Like tbh through the whole movie i just wanted to hug him idc what he did and id share Jesus with him. Also id pick the phantom over raol😅
Why would they delete this number. It works really well for this version.
It was suppose to go after Madam Giry’s backstory, and everyone felt it slowed things down too much, which I understand, you need to get back to the action or your audience will get restless. I feel they should have just kept the song the same, instead of rewriting it and still had it at the end credits…I think it would have been more poignant after seeing that last shot of the rose and ring that we get the Phantom literally singing about Christine, instead of Minnie Driver singing Learn to be Lonely. No One Would Listen is a better song, and even if it didn’t make it into the film itself it shouldn’t have been changed.
Assisti o filme e fiquei mal pelo Fantasma. Agora, vendo essa cena excluida do filme, coitado! Vivia num mundo sozinho e sem nenhum tipo de afeto! Música linda e que te toca no fundo do coração! Se entrasse essa cena no filme, todos iriam torcer pelo Fantasma ficar com a Cristine e não Raul.
It's sad that this part is not in the movie, I think it shows how vulnerable the Phantom is and what makes him human in amidst of his own madness. It shows that even the "mighty-oh-so-spoopy" Phantom is actually just like everyone else, that even HE could get hurt. (I feel like Sir Butler's moody broody sexiness appeal here is cute, hehe ^//^ Makes me want to go there and give him a good big hug, wrap him in a cozy blanket, and serve him some hot cocoa..., and perhaps start the therapy session.... ^^; ) I think it's not bad to show the audience this side of the Phantom, because in the end, the Phantom is but a human. But I guess it's a bit hard to put this scene in the story line... I'm just curious with the script that leads to this scene and what comes after.
It was planned to go after Why so silent?/Madame Giry's backstory of the Phantom. When he sits down at the end, you can see his red mantle of the Red Death costume on the chair back.
I agree that they should have kept this in. Actually, they did include a slightly different version at the end credits, sung by Minnie Driver.
I had the DVD. How did I miss this deleted scene?! I always LOVED the music but the lyrics were too hopeless. This at least gives a story about the phantom. Came at the right time though. I'm planning my wedding next year and it's going to be POTO themed ❤️
THIS CHANGES THE ENTIRE FLIPPING MOVIE.
Unpopular opinion, I’m glad they kept this out. It’s unnecessary and we still feel for Erik’s pain without it.
Best place for this song after she left his hideaway. Perfect song at that point because it shows his heart
The Phantom has low self-esteem due to his deformity. He closes him self no one hears his heart thst is full of love but he doesnt know how to express it. Just Christine know because she felt the same. Interesting, sweetie. Why dont you find the way to put it on stage in Bellas Artes , Luis A Ferré en San Juan, Puerto Rico? And part of what it raised is given to non- profit Institution. Its good idea., sweetie. 🌹🌹🥰🥰
I think the phantom really wants to marry Christine
Damn you Andy for taking out this song
I always wondered where this would be in the movie itself, clearly after he found out Raoul and her kissed but i imagine it was the part right before the Masqurade in as we can see the play for Don Juan Triumphant is in the back but still in the process, and if you watch the scene where Erik and Christine walk up the stairs to meet, the instrumental part of this plays for a bit before he gets mad. At this point he isn't mad at her, he believes that she is just being fooled by Raoul since he is handsome and only now noticed her both as a person and a talent. If anyone has any thoughts when this is go ahead and comment, im actually curious.
So would I. I would have gone with the phantom too!!
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Honestly I probably would have stayed with the Phantom. Not because he was innocent, but because he needed someone to show him love. I would not marry him unless I saw some significant changes. But if someone had just taken the time to show him love earlier, he would not have killed all those people. He was no doubt a genius. A genius with good influences, becomes a great man. But a genius that knows nothing but hate, becomes a murderer. Just my thoughts.
I've listened to my love emptiness and loneliness and he hurt it me the most in my whole life......I loved him with all my heart. He was the first love of my life. I miss him a lot. The relationship was toxic...I realized after 3 years...I had to run away to keep myself safe and protect my heart. I am praying for him.
] No one would listen No one but her Heard as the outcast hears. Shamed into solitude Shunned by the multitude I learned to listen In my dark, my heart heard music. I longed to teach the world Rise up and reach the world No one would listen I alone could hear the music Then at last, a voice in the gloom Seemed to cry "I hear you; I hear your fears, Your torment and your tears." She saw my loneliness Shared in my emptiness No one would listen No one but her Heard as the outcast hears No one would listen No one but her Heard as the outcast hears
he went from this to taking down paris and olympus!
i mean angel and olympus
@thatARTISTICguy I understand what you are saying,but he loved Christine long before letting Raul and Christine go. He looked over her since the time she came to the opera house, he tutored her,left her gifts, protected her from the hate and harm her endured at the hands of others. Did you forget that he was cruelly whipped, abused physically, emotionally, mentally, mocked, spit on, laughed at, and publicly humiliated in a human freak circus, and shunned daily. He was labeled as a "devil child" by the circus master that profited from this and abandoned by his own mother because of his physical appearance. Society abused him, mistreated him, shunned him, and treated him like a beast of the wild. Society made him an angry, bitter, outcast and you say he is not to be forgiven because he acted out the way he did. The only love,kindness, and gentleness he was shown was from Madame and Christine, and even Christine's love was of a fickle nature . Now, I ask you how would you feel and be if you endured all the Phantom did? To live a life hiding from the world, living alone and learning to be lonely.😢 No,my empathy is for the Phantom
Bruh they should've kept this scene and the song, it's beautiful
His voice is so beautiful
I wish they did not delete this it had so much meaning, and passion and it hits home to all of everyone that felt like an outcast.
Beautiful! I am sorry they cut it from the movie.
He visto como 99 veces la película y jamás vi esta escena 🤔
Me: ‘Scuse me, Mr. Phantom, we can kinda hear you… Erik: Yeah, well that was a soliloquy, so you’re the one who’s being rude…
If I was in the phantom of the opera in 2004 I’d live and stay with the phantom I’d be his son
Hopefully, it didn't appear in the movie.
I think Erik looks at Christine because he's the only person who believes she would make out love for him when his mother and stepfather wouldn't.
I LOVE YOU, GERARD, ALWAYS. ❤️🌹
I heard this a look I looked at it 3 times your great awesome
POV me the hole time ILL LISTEN, IM LISTENING RIGHT NOW
I LOVE YOU!! butt lerrrr.... ??
Teniendo a un hombre así a mi lado como el fantasma que fuera mi maestro,mi ángel mi compañero de vida,que me protegiera definitivamente me hubiera ido con el
Gerard Butler sings... 💙💥🙏💞
This man needs therapy to bad it was 1848
POR QUÉ LA SACARON CON LO HERMOSA QUE ES??!?!😭😭😭😭😭?!?!??!?111??1!?11?!?
If you look on the table next to the chair he sits on, there is the mask he wore to the masquerade.
Bruh the fact that this is 17 years ago...
I can’t believe they cut this song but if they didn’t it would make more root for the phantom. Team phantom as long as it’s mr Butler
I really liked this song and I never knew why they cut it out. I think maybe it gets us to know the Phantom a little too much and takes away his mystique.
Everyone hates on Gerard but it was this movie that got me into musical theatre 😍😍
Everyone hated him for not being a professional singer but I truly believe they picked a perfect actor. Gerard shows so much passion as the phantom through out the film. He may not have the best voice but still is so passionate
@Mcmessilove_37 I don't know what they means. He has amazing voice
Sir Webber told himself that he didn't care Butler is not a trained singer. He said what is important in the movie is to convey the feelings in a different way, and the emotions it evokes. Cinema and musical theater are different.
I wish this song wasn't exclusive to this. It fits the stage musical to perfection.
This song is sad 😭
This love story reminds me of dracula and mina
❤
would be incredible to hear Ramin Karimloo or Hugh Panaro sing this