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Crimson Kaim
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 22 ต.ค. 2015
That one, very annoying, mine bomber from Elite: Dangerous :)
Crimson's Guide to Minebombing
Over the past years few people were interested in minebombing. But most recently, an increasingly number of people asked me about mines so I thought if the interest in minebombing is high enough, I might make a video about it. This is a small introduction (I tried really hard to focus on important topics and skip any content that wasn't benefiting the purpose of sharing knowledge) to minebombing and should be able to give you a basic understanding of how minebombing works and how to adapt to it shall you encounter an opposing minebomber.
I'd also like to say thanks to Legendary_Keks who has helped me record some footage to demonstrate the perspective of both sides when minebombing.
Bomber Builds (these are examples, change and adapt as you see fit):
DBS Stealth Bomber: edsy.org/s/vvfsMyu
Courier Dive Bomber: edsy.org/s/v0G2Qe0
Chief Hybrid Bomber: edsy.org/s/vI1oCUU
Sections:
00:00 - Intro
01:19 - Technical Details
01:59 - Shock Mines
02:33 - Bomber Builds
04:50 - How to Minebomb
08:38 - How to evade mines
10:36 - Showcase
Soundtracks:
Everspace 2 - Drake Supralight: th-cam.com/video/BMp6x7HD23Y/w-d-xo.html
Everspace 2 - Zharkov Supralight: th-cam.com/video/U5uiLtrGdS8/w-d-xo.html
Everspace 2 - Union Tension: th-cam.com/video/EYXC6w8f_wI/w-d-xo.html
Everspace 2 - Khione Supralight: th-cam.com/video/b-oDhDwX8ls/w-d-xo.html
Everspace 2 - Khait Supralight: th-cam.com/video/j9P4ONGWgTk/w-d-xo.html
I'd also like to say thanks to Legendary_Keks who has helped me record some footage to demonstrate the perspective of both sides when minebombing.
Bomber Builds (these are examples, change and adapt as you see fit):
DBS Stealth Bomber: edsy.org/s/vvfsMyu
Courier Dive Bomber: edsy.org/s/v0G2Qe0
Chief Hybrid Bomber: edsy.org/s/vI1oCUU
Sections:
00:00 - Intro
01:19 - Technical Details
01:59 - Shock Mines
02:33 - Bomber Builds
04:50 - How to Minebomb
08:38 - How to evade mines
10:36 - Showcase
Soundtracks:
Everspace 2 - Drake Supralight: th-cam.com/video/BMp6x7HD23Y/w-d-xo.html
Everspace 2 - Zharkov Supralight: th-cam.com/video/U5uiLtrGdS8/w-d-xo.html
Everspace 2 - Union Tension: th-cam.com/video/EYXC6w8f_wI/w-d-xo.html
Everspace 2 - Khione Supralight: th-cam.com/video/b-oDhDwX8ls/w-d-xo.html
Everspace 2 - Khait Supralight: th-cam.com/video/j9P4ONGWgTk/w-d-xo.html
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im started using mines after watching your vids o7
Great video! o7
When I got my Mandalay it looked so unusual for ED that I went for an unusual (for me) loadout and tried mines, as I'd never used them before. It all started with trying to bomb a settlement, but it just works so nice that it immediately became my main Mandalay loadout. At first I paired 4 mine launchers with Frag Cannons, then with Concords, then PAs. So good that I don't want to use anything else but mines for any combat. And here is a video with so much useful info. The best timing, very good video :))) Learned somethings today. Thank you!
Great video! Some feedback: I found it hard to understand you at times due to the music being loud / voice being muted. I guess that the radio effect is also part of the reason :D
Yeah feared as much, wanted to try anyways. I'll consider this next time I might create a similar video. Thanks!
Legendary PvP-er, legendary guide
Love mines. Best suprise weapon one can have for organic. I would love to see them more with da pros like you and in arranged pvp, but somehow i doubt a skilled enemy will be hit enough before he melts yo face.
Most of my recent videos were in organized (i.e. arranged) PvP, namely Wyrd Wednesdays. They are quite useful against the average meta FDL.
dang it! youtube keep hiding your new vids from me.
Crimson and Crimson collab when?
When you wing up with me in a minebomber
Great video old friend!! I'm now having flashbacks when I used mines back in the day to take shields down too. Keep the videos coming Crimson, they are good!!
Lol, loved Zhen Wu´s help with the showcase 😍
Great vid! (except maybe for the sound test at the start😅) Always thought of doing a tutorial but never got to it. Good brief on how to get started. To anyone wanting to start: Don't give up early! A lot of predictive flying has to be re-learned as you are no longer fighting to give yourself optimal aim that all the other weapons require. That takes time to do past the simple jousting. Hope you do another vid on the more reactive flying that happens when your opponent is acutely aware. Was always a struggle of mine to be consistent in those cases trying to gauge my opponents vector and intercept it with the correct boost timing. Estimating by thruster trails and secondary weapons target lead, all that jazz!
The mic test at the start was an actual mic test. It was the first recording inside shotcut using my mic. I found it funny and so I kept it xd
Love to see my OG brother keep the evolution of Rinzler's mine bombing going to another level. Great work my friend!! Oh, and soon it will begin...
What do you mean?! I got Rinz into bombing xd Euklides ist the first bomber (Remember his ASP Explorer haha)
Great video my OG brother. You showing them how it's done. Love it!!! Oh, and remember it is coming soon....
Wild. That ship is *agile.*
its sped up
I just realized that the PC version of elite dangerous doesnt have any achivenments!
😂😂😂
Hmm the EDHM mod looks so nice. I first heard of the game thanks to watching streams of it on Twitch.
I am not a PvP guy, but seeing your organised stuff is insane. This is what Open was for. Organised and RP. Not to mention your's and everyone's plays are mad. Earned a sub!
how do you get this good at combat.. especially using the flight assist off to help. ive been playing for years and the best i can do is use it to help me turn a little faster.. please teach me man
There are a lot of good resources on TH-cam. Best you can do is join a PvP community discord such as Galactic Combat Initiative and browse through the listed material there. Otherwise search for flight assist off tutorials. I personally recommend L'intouchable's videos. The rest really is just learning by doing. Join PvP events like Wyrd Wednesdays and you will find lots of helpful players that gladly teach you (and grant you mercy by not focusing you first :p)
Lovely ☠️💀
Hell yeah! Ok I’m getting one hahaha. I like how you using the asteroids to bottleneck them into the mines!
fun and fresh, respect again cmdr o7
hey, that was so funny and mean at the same time! GG 🍻
Hell yeah, Paradelous is an epic choice of soundtrack
Dayumn, that's insane lmao. Does it work that well partly because people just aren't used to mines at all in *organised?
Organized. And yes, partly. Of course it's easier to bomb targets that do not know how to deal with mines but on the other side if *you* don't know how to use mines then you probably will never (reliably) hit someone, let alone nuke their shields before they drop in a wingfight. Reading your target, predicting and baiting it is the other side of minebombing that makes it a viable playstyle rather than a random clusterspam that may or may not hit targets ... or your teammates :) Same applies to organic.
Its 5 grade power generator and thick hull gives no chance to have a perfect setup. It rules only because you rule. For others it's only a toy to sco to Hutton Orbital (an expensive toy) IMHO
sick af
Bro I kinda have to try mines myself now. xddd This is peak gameplay.
Also really enjoyed the music again. Where do you get this music from?
@@legendarykeks9595 TH-cam journeys :)
Hadnt considered mine launchers on the Mandy, was thinking of 2 seekers for the effects when I get around to kitting one. What mods are you using on them? I'd assume High Cap and reverb though. Also seeing Mod Chargers in PVP once again has me wondering how my AX Vulture with Mod Chargers would do in PVP. Large Mod Chargers have some really high damage output...
Large mod chargers don't come in a pre-engineered variant so you'd be missing out on the 6000 m/s shot speed. The Vulture and the Mandalay both have a C5 PD so you will have to deal with similar distro challenges. I use high cap on smalls and rapid on mediums with all reverb though I also like one using one ion from time to time. Mostly in organics to prevent targets from jumping.
Crazy video! Love the song as well :))
insane video
Whoa. Awesome video, awesome editing, awesome flying. I gotta get myself a mandalay asap. For the style alone
Hi, a seemingly silly question. Every time I try to switch a different missile, a few seconds are required to relock the target. When a missile is fired before the lock, it will not track the target. In the video though, it seems that you can just lock a target then switch and fire different missiles instantly. May I ask is this a setting or a function of your ship/configuration?
@@FrostSingularity -80% lock on time on ALL missiles and -50% lock on time as a ship passive stacked yields -90% total reduction in lock-on time :)
ah, that's how it works. Thanks a lot!
@@crimsonkaim Aha, that's how it works. Thanks so much!
I came back to this video like… the 4th time now. How the *fuck* is this still sub 1k views?
Perhaps mines got set on the don't watch list
respect. o7
gg
Amazing flying, that was fantastic to watch. Great seeing some small ships getting love
Hell of a Chieftain 😮😮😮
GG
Nice flying and mining! GG
Kaboom? Yes Rico, kaboom...
after watching your videos using mine launchers i decided to mastering the art me too, but i've to learn the proper trajectories before dropping them. nice one btw
gg cmdr
Shots on point bro what you play on and who ya play with?
X52 hotas (would not recommend, use VKBs instead) and I mostly fly alone or with randoms I happen to meet on my journey. :)
Kaim again, WoW!! Well done
hot small ship action, i LIKE it! sooo glad sainrok didnt cringe back into the fight as well! ggs!
Very impressive. Mine launchers are cool. I wish I master them one day. Do you think that a fast biweave us safe enough? No prizmo, banks etc.?
On certain ships where you can play out its strengths, yes. Bi-weaves are good if the ship can either evade in an excellent manner or go stealth. A bi-weave on a Cutter for example is insanely bad as the Cutter can't do either. However, on a Lance or a Chief, it *can* be good if you can evade and/or go stealth. The whole selling point of the bi-weave is to have a low top cap where you can go silent running easily without losing the major part of your health pool or where you can evade long enough to out-regen your opponent(s), effectively negating their DPS. You are also pretty much immune to chip damage or the occasional ping. In large scale wingfights, though, a prismo is always better (on ships with a high shield multiplier) as upfront hitpoints dictate the amount of time (and thus your value) you can stay in a fight.
@@crimsonkaim and what do you think of a fast biweave on a python-1 or a krait mk2?
@@Groundwalker1000 Works in a 1v1 but both the Krait and the P1 are very bad in wingfights as they can neither evade, nor go stealth for a prolonged period of time. Lakon ships have the best heat capacity and management whereas DeLacy is average at best. If yo uwant to go to a larger scale wingfight with a bi-weave, take the Lance, Chieftain or Python 2
@@crimsonkaim no, I was talking exactly about 1x1 or a small organic.
@@Groundwalker1000 Python and Krait (and Challenger too btw) are excellent 1v1 ships. Bi-weaves are very suitable here. You might be able to pull off a 2v2 but nothing more than that. Even a 1v2 is not as good in a bi-weave as it is in a prismo, imo.
They attack you 3vs1 and run? LMAO 😂😂😂 serious cringe lol 😆
Nothing beats organic fights where you're out numbered. Sneaky mine builds can be tricky.
Why would he run with 80% of his hull left
I suppose being outmatched in a 1v3 broke his moral
nice one, respect
Kaim, did it again. Good job.