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I have to admit that I haven't yet read the Perfect Pair Dolphin Trilogy. However, I have listened to both parts of this extraordinary interview. What this ex trainer and his sister have exposed is enough to dissuade anyone with an once of compassion to avoid visiting a dolphinarium. The passion, despair and (dare I say) guilt in this trainers testimony shines through the normal fluffy activism displayed by many in his field who deem themselves to be experts. This is a story that - given enough publicity - could bring an end to this cruel form of entertainment. With this in mind, can I thank Erika Salvemini for bringing David Cappello's jaw-dropping interview to the public notice.

The Perfect Pair Dolphin Trilogy shows clearly how awful it is to keep Cetaceans in captivity! The Aqua-Circus is 100% pure cruelty. It also can help to understand why there is no "human" way to hunt and kill cetaceans in the wild! Especially small Cetaceans are being hunted and killed in too many places around the world and it needs to stop! And all Facilities with captive Cetaceans need to be shut down! The industry of captive cetacens isn't acceptable anymore and actually never was. There are facilities in which holographic dolphins and whales can be seen as if they were alive. It's a possibility for kids and people who can't go on a nice boat for dolphin or whale watching. And it's cruelty-free!

Everyone who read The Perfect Pair books for sure especially is in love with Scouse! Such a brave little boy 🥰 may your sweet soul rest in eternal peace, Scouse! May all the poor tortured cetaceans who had to pass away in captivity swim fast and play happily in the ocean of Heaven!

The Perfect Pair Dolphin Trilogy is the most important exposé about the horrors behind closed doors of the industry that profits from the captivity of dolphins and whales! Everyone who truly loves dolphins and whales should go see them in the wild! If anyone still thinks that a dolphin in any captive facility (swim-with-dolphins-programs or dolphinarium) can be happy and well cared for, urgently needs to read these books! I love The Perfect Pair Dolphin Trilogy from the bottom of my heart and although the truth can be hard to digest I'd highly recommend to animal lovers to read these books! "You will never see a dolphin in the same light again!" David Capello 💗

Great show , well said

Once again, a huge thank you to Erica Salvemini for giving David and me this platform. Never in our wildest dreams could we have imagined the impact of this two-part interview, proven by the huge number of hits it is still generating - over 800 and counting - to say nothing of the further interviews it has delivered. A WDC guest blog and interviews for WeWhale and Marine Conservation Network. Thank you again, Erica our message is getting out! DON'T BUY A TICKET TO A CAPTIVE CETACEAN FACILITY!

EVZ is so corrupt and obviously their first priority is their self greed. They have no intentions giving up Lucy and retiring her to Sanctuary. That wont stop us from fighting for Lucy. Never say never. Good video ladies.

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Makes me wonder how independent the animal rights group Free the Wild who recommends keeping Lucy in place is actually independent.

Great job explaining all this to everyone. I created my own You Tube Channel for Lucy just to be able to comment on this video. #FreeLucy

Great work Yvonne and Billie! Thank you for your good work as a voice for the animals! They need us to speak up loudly and vigilantly. #freelucy #animalliberation #animalrights

It's really just a slow death for lucy...ignored recommendations for her care, her isolation and lonliness, her confinement in a cage & most importantly her declining MEDICAL CONDITION with as stated ignored by the EDMONTON CITY COUNCIL ,THE MAYOR & THE ZOO. They will be all responsible for her impending death.

Please free Lucy... #freeLucy

Poor Lucy come on #Edmonton let Lucy go to her sanctuary

There's another very sad elephant left in South Africa Knysna the very last one in a huge forest all by himself, nobody was really paying attention everybody thought there was more than one because of the photos that they took when they compare the photos they realized it was the same elephant sad sad sad. For such a graceful creature to be all by itself for such a long time and people didn't even realize this is a perfect for elephants but yet people let them die.😢😢😢

Great work! Thank you for bringing a fresh new perspective to a class of animals that has been neglected. :)

Thank you for the brilliant opportunity,

Very insightful and inspirational! 🩵🐳🐋

I use to watch you in all my "Children" My mother got me hooked on that soap appera. when I was a kid. Your name was Nina and you were marred in that show to that hunk of a man Cliff. I don't watch it any more, I'm so busy with my animal activism Every single day. Thanks to technology I can spread the word to the whole world all at onse. I eductat PPL on animal Agricultural and puppy mills. I have no time to even catch a breath. Keep up the life saving worrk. I have been a vegan for 20 years now. And I have never regretted it. #ADoptDontShopSaveALife PPL

A very talented artist using their skills to speak out for those without a voice. Thank you as ever for your support of rhinos and animals in general Kenda. 🙌🙌

Love this! I am so grateful for this opportunity to share my art and animal advocacy story on your incredible podcast. Thank you Erica! Thank you Jeff!

Excellent program thank you

Love this! Devan Schowe of Born Free USA is a wealth of Animal Advocacy information. She is amazing.

"Never underestimate the power of a small group of committed people to change the world." Eleanor Roosevelt.

~ Thank you so much for sharing this and doing this interview ~ I decided to listen this evening and glad I did sister ~ xx

Thank you so much Host- Erica Salvemini 😊😊for such a Phenomenal Interview on All About Animals Radio. Great job on the info provided above. So very informative. A Big Shout Out to Gary Bowden-Producer for all the hard and inspiring work he does for the animals in need. It was such an honor and pleasure being interviewed by "The Rising Lioness" Erica is a Super Team Player and Great Advocate for our animal friends. It is so important to get support in legislation to help animals get better lives and futures. We are the animals protectors and we got to make sure they have protection and safety. All animals should be treated with dignity and respect. Thank you also Alex Sanfix for doing a Outstanding Job on the video. Takes Teamwork to see any Positive Victories.

Excellent interview on insights of the care pet industry and the need for individualized sensitivity. Thank you both 👏

Dear Erica Salvemini - The Rising Lioness. We wish to thank you again for giving our no-holds-barred interview about Atlantean captivity a platform. During your interview, you gave us the freedom to speak out and tell it like it is. Only by exposing the hard truth about this horrendous industry do we stand any chance of consigning it to history. You showed great courage and compassion - The Rising Lioness certainly ROARED!

Wow what a powerful interview! exposing the brutal truth of all the abuse and harm done to the dolphins behind the scenes of those shows, which are only interested in making profit at the cost of a living being. I also read the Perfect Pair Dolphin trilogy , which touched me deeply. I already knew that some dolphins from the brutal Dolphin drive hunt in Taiji were sold to the shows and dolphinaria. I hope it encourages trainers to follow tread.

This is brilliant! Since the beginning of the publishing of the Trilogy, I have been a huge supporter of David and Tracy and Im their biggest fan. There passion, dedication, and relentless drive to get this published is second to none! Davids desire to get the truth of how vile the captive industry is and expose just how cruel and inhumane dolphins were treated is from deep within his heart. You can tell by his words, not just in the books but in this interview, how much he loved his Dolphins. I cant tell you how many times I have cried reading the books..feeling his pain..feeling the suffering of the dolphins. If these books…this story does not change peoples minds about the captive industry I don't believe anything can. The fight to get the truth exposed and acknowledge was a long hard battle for them and its not over…the UK has admitted it! Now the US knows…thanks to things like this interview and all advocates sharing everything they can…this war can be won, battle by battle. So thank you Erica for being a General in our Army and leading a very large troop into battle! I cant wait to see how much response this interview brings. Fight on warriors. Much love to you my friends David and Tracy..well done! Shelley Guinn

'When you have nothing left to give, you are done.' David’s words truly shook me, more than most people realize. And it's all because of The Perfect Pair Dolphin Trilogy. Reading this trilogy was one of the most emotionally challenging experiences I've ever had, mainly because I know that it's 100% true. From the sinister industry to the physical and mental abuse, and what I would call the murder of these beautiful Atlanteans. The book series chronicles how their torture begins on day one of captivity, continues throughout their lives, and ends in unspeakable ways. This trilogy isn't just a read; it's a life-changing experience for the better. As I mentioned in my comment in part one of this video interview, the companies claiming ownership of these dolphins will stop at nothing to extract every last dollar from them. The behind-the-scenes abuse and torture they endure, seven days a week, 24 hours a day, are beyond our comprehension. Imagine being locked in an inescapable prison, subjected to relentless abuse-now multiply that by an unprecedented number, and you might begin to grasp their suffering. Then, at the end of their tragic journey, when they have nothing left to give, when they're old, sick, or weak, they mysteriously pass away. Take Scouse, for example. They found a razor blade in his stomach. How could that happen by accident? It can't. Even worse, these broken dolphins sometimes resort to suicide by ramming their heads into the concrete pool walls. Read The Perfect Pair Dolphin Trilogy, and you'll understand. The third book of the trilogy is the one that hit me the hardest. For some reason, Duchess and Herb'e, the dolphins David trained, will capture your heart. You'll root for them and cheer for them, then they will break your heart. Reading about their premature deaths crushed me. I can only imagine how David feels, having worked hand-in-hand with them for years. Believe me, I could continue talking about this exposé endlessly, which is why I feel that everyone should read it. The only way to make a significant impact on this abusive industry is for people to stop visiting dolphinariums, aquariums or any other place that charges to see these beautiful animals perform. Sadly, many are unaware of the cruelty behind the scenes, so they inadvertently support it. That's why it's crucial for everyone to raise awareness about this issue. In conclusion, I stopped going to all zoos and aquariums because of David Capello’s exposé. Before I read it, I used to take my children there multiple times a year. But after reading the trilogy and understanding the horrors of the captive animal industry, and how it brought tears to my eyes numerous times, I had to stop visiting these places. David and Tracy's message hit home with me - and they absolutely nailed it!

What an interview! Courageous, hard-hitting and brutally honest. I have read The Perfect Pair Dolphin Trilogy and, like many others, it changed how I viewed dolphin shows forever. If David Capello's story was promoted by mainstream media, it could close down dolphinaria forever. So, hats off to David and Tracy for delivering a power-packed punch and going where other trainers fear to tread. Great interview!

"Dolphin conservation and dolphin exploitation are two sides of the same coin." Take a moment to appreciate the power of this quote. To fully understand its meaning, it's essential to listen to part one of this interview, which will undoubtedly lead you to part two - and more eye-opening revelations in the future. Diving right in, David Holroyd (aka David Capello) explains in this video the extent of the captive industry’s quest for money and the surprising number of countries involved. Even worse, they all appear to collaborate. Words fail me when it comes to accurately describing the sheer heinousness and atrociousness of this rotten industry. It is all driven by one motive: profit and growth. Numerous countries have adopted a devastating formula that ultimately results in the death of cetaceans. If you think David’s interview is disturbing, you must read The Perfect Pair Dolphin Trilogy. The physical and mental abuse these dolphins endured is overwhelming, not to mention their daily existence in pools contaminated with cetacean waste and spent chlorine. It is hard to fathom how they survived and performed under such conditions, yet they endured it every day. Thankfully, David would go against company policy in an attempt to mitigate the toxicity by dumping the filthy water - a policy that put him at loggerheads with a greedy management. It is clear to me that David’s experiences continue to haunt him, a weight that hangs heavily on his heart even now. Listening to this interview is harrowing, but thank goodness there are people like David around to challenge the misconceptions of the public. It's truly heartbreaking to realize that countries that slaughter and imprison our precious cetaceans have such scant regard for their well-being. When David enlightens us about dolphins’ and whales’ remarkable ability to communicate with humans, it becomes clear how special they truly are. Indeed, their gift of telepathic connection is a thing of beauty. This interview is extremely impressive, so I eagerly await part two, which I hope will follow soon.

No wonder so many want to silence this whistleblower/trainer. This is a powerful interview by two people who clearly know their stuff. What comes across is their raw passion, something I have never felt when listening to other big trainer interviews. So carry on the good work, because I can't wait to hear part 2 of this interview.

WE NEED TO HEAR MORE OF WHAT HAPPENED TO THESE INNOCENT ATLANTEANS ON ALL MEDIA OUTLETS. DAVID/TRACY HAVE YOU EVER TRIED CONTACTING THE TV SHOW ‘DISPATCHES’? I WAS GLAD TO SEE YOUR POST ON ‘WDC’ F/B PAGE AFTER I’D PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED DAVID ON THERE 👍🏻 HERE’S TO WORLDWIDE MEDIA PICKING UP YOUR STORY FOR A BIGGER AUDIENCE SEEING HOW BADLY THESE SENTIENT MAGICAL BEINGS ARE TREATED & HOW THEY’RE OBTAINED 💔 END CAPTIVITY & EMPTY THE TANKS ✊🏻

Fantastic, spot on! Everything that can spread the truth has my backing. Thank you so much x

If I ever need someone to fight for me, I want it to be these two. The commitment and enduring self sacrifice is inspiring. I too look back on those days spent visiting the pretty dolphins, as a child or taking my children. But no more !!

My God! I HAVE to read these books, everyone should. This area of Animal Exploitation has not been delved far enough into and certainly needs more open exposure.

A huge thank you, Erica Salvemini, The Rising Lioness, for giving the trainer known as David Capello a platform. We strongly feel that if David's award-winning story could reach enough people, it would change the public's view on captive dolphins and whales. If ever a story could bring down the captive cetacean industry, this one could. Thanks again, Erica.

I've read all 3 of his books. Amazing and depressing at the same time!!

Excellent idea creating a monkey reserve for tourism and educational purposes it's a win win financially and for the animals 🐒

The monkey's should be allowed to live there, a lot of people want them there. The tourists want to see the monkey's and bring a lot of money to the places where they are. If they are causing problems for the farmers, control them in those areas. Having monkey's makes st maarten a more interesting place to be in my opinion.

Great program.

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Thank you Paul Watson for everything you have done and are doing for animals! The world needs more people like you. It is particularly insane that the legal systems (incl. in 'modern' countries like Denmark and Canada) always side with the abusers / torturers and punish those who try to help and stop the abuse.

Brilliant episode! Captain Paul Watson is as bold, effective and powerful an activist as he ever was. I am honored for All About Animals Radio to have had him as a guest. Way to go Stci-lee! Great interview!

Excellent interview!

interesting talk! I notice he didn't mention the propaganda effort currently underway where they try to fool people into believing that wind farms are killing whales (long before any construction even starts). It would be nice to hear him clarify that.

Thank you both for EVERYTHING you do!! I will share this!! I am so tired of those evil imbeciles hurting those horses. It's still shocking hwo barbaric the federal government is. Their greed keeps me livid.

Thank you both for your dedication to our wild horses and wolves.