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I love Rob Bell and Joseph singing Oh Holy Night!

I'm originally a Grand Rapids guy so I knew about Rob, watched Nooma with my youth group kids, etc. Found Richard Rohr through Christian mysticism channels. Both have so helped to re-define and animate a largely dead Jesus in my heart of hearts. Now I see divinity everywhere, having lost the filter of dualism I grew up with. In my 20s I was attracted to some of the truths of eastern religions but that only went so far. Now I find the same truths, but for me more dynamic and personal, in the Jesus story and scripture in general. It has so much that our American Christian culture strips away, so much life, breath, joy, freedom, grace. So hearing these two truly open hearts and minds reflect off one another.... beyond wonderful.

Still listening and relistening to this. Thanks Rob & Liz!

Nothing on the neuroscience of transgender conditions? It would have been very helpful to me.

Wait, what does the H mean?

Masterbation is not a serious sin

Rob, Excellent! Life mysteries are in small rituals, tiny details, small steps, ritualistic concrete actions, etc.. well said. Supporting to your good examples you mentioned, such as “breakfast right”, cleaning closets, I would suggest to one more powerful ritualistic small step a person can start to come out of hole; recovering and thriving to new horizons, that is: making a bed as gets up every morning ritual!

The five solas are absolutely scriptural

I've been avoiding laying boundaries with a community elder in my midst. Today I had the conversation, after listening to this podcast. Thanks Rob Bell!

I'm wondering if all the same can be true and applied to depression or if that's different. I've struggled with depression my entire adult life. what do I do with my depression? am I wired that way? I was a happy kid for the most part. but always low motivation. I can't see the other side of depression the way you have found with anxiety.

Late to the party, but just discovered this. Such a great interview! I could listen to Martin talk and laugh all day long, even if I already heard most of the stories before. Love him to bits. ❤❤❤ thank you

So here is what I don’t get. If I am feeling anxious eg about aging ( big one for me) snd I go for a walk/take a bath my mind will keep on with those thoughts. I can’t have empty time as then it gets filled with those thoughts. I have to keep busy and not think. But that is not healthy. 😢

I only came across your work a couple of days ago. I watched a talk which was more like an excellent show than a talk. It was excellent. I have watched a few more videos before finding out you do a pod cast. I took a lucky dip into your earlier days and the very first one I selected (purely by chance) was this one! I am so glad you have connected with Richard Rhor because I was blown away when I discovered his work on TH-cam around 2 months ago. I have subsequently tried to find all videos that Richard has appeared up. It was via searching his you tube videos out that I came across your work which I also really both enjoyed and appreciated deeply. On discovering you also had a podcast I found where I could locate them. The very first pod cast I picked out randomly was with Richard Rhor!! Amazing!!! There are no such things as co-incidences!

I listen to this 4 part series every couple of months ... it's really helped me with my concept of the divine

You guys are amazing. Just now finding out about Rob Bell! Where have you been all my life?!!!

A barrier between eastern thought and western tends to mostly be lingual in how spirituality is perceived. For instance, in christo-Judaic thought, the masculine "pillar" is force, and is to the "right" (Chokhmah), the feminine (Binah) is form, and to the "left". In Hunduistic thought we are looking at EXACTLY the same thing. However, in their spiritual LANGUAGE, the pillars are named in reverse gender. The only thing of urgent not is to ALWAYS REMEMBER, as in certain languages around the world, some words are masculine or feminine, or neuter, and that, between languages this can change and isn't of itself important. It is the underlying substance that matters. So, too, how the living energy is symbolically portrayed is actually describing the same thing, a spiral going up in a cylindrical shape, then once at the top rotates back down till it loops back up. We have shadows of this surviving through images such as the medical caddueceus symbol. In Hinduism the elephant makes clear paths through thick dense dark Forrest. In the west Iochanan the Baptist fulfills this role with his "make straight paths" (clearing the Way). Sri Bakhtevedanti got it wrong, in his Krishna books in the 1970s by shooting his own argument in the foot. He showed he didn't actually know what he was talking about: He said in effect it was impossible for Jesus to be because to take away sin is to remove the karma. Lol? He just didn't get the purpose of Christ's mission there AT ALL, and actually made Jesus argument for Him! It's something Hinduism is generally fuzzy round the edges on, as they've been groomed for as long as we have. The hope of salvation for Hindus is bleak so far as "knowing your place" goes. Though their commoners are talked about by their professional classes much, they are rarely invited into the discussion. Though, it's getting bad again here in the west.

We're all being trafficked. Since we were driven off the hills, out of the Forrest's and plains into the cities, mostly against our wills as commoners, "heathens" (those from the heathlands"), "little people" (infantry), trafficked into wage slavery and perpetual austerity except for phases of bribery and flattery, groomed to assist birthing the invisible mechanical all-powerful unregulated free-market, which doesn't even know it' has a planet to live on nor recognize nor care for us. We've been groomed since ancient times. Most of us no longer see the stars above (two thirds of the stars were to be blotted out?), most of us no longer know how to live upon the planet were perfectly evolved to be perfectly at home upon. Captive. Desperate, afraid, disenfranchised, disempowered, afraid to organise and be alive to our own home planet. All employment and business is currently set-up to PREVENT and distract us from this. Captives. "Revival Babylon", captivity. And "Rome" the controlling military-corporate entities. Irrespective of what orders come from the tabloid social media spirit we all have the power to start looking after each other, and make choices and purchases with joined-up thinking as to how we treat each other and our world by what we buy and where we choose to work. Speaking up. Organising of our own accord, with love. It is said, in the end-times, that the Holy Spirit would come like a flood, the young would have visions, the old dream dreams, and MANY WOULD SEE CLEARLY. Christ doesn't even know the moment of His return! Only The Father knows that. Clever strategy. The coming quantum digital phase will escalate the invisible captivity chains but will NEVER understand what only The Father Knows. It can't understand. It isn't even alive, and actually has no understanding as it's predestined urges stem from the impulses of unregulated free market economy algorithms. No feelings. No compassion, no soul. No love. It doesn't even "know" what it "knows". It's just "data" electronics, on/off and chemistry. A mere Newtonian nightmare in a grown-up body. Mere cold cause-effect mechanics as it's politics and economy, and it's even as it evolved as a system, groomed many people think of themselves this way too. Meaningless chemical reactions and data. Everything is a commodity, nothing is sacred. Even themselves. BUT WE THE PEOPLE can come out of her! The Bible tells me so!

The people who are still yet "the people", and who still yet haven't accepted "civilization" and who still live in what we call the "Wilderness" , rain Forrest's, glaciers, Great plains of the planet, and not the captives we call "We, The People".. what of them? None of the monotheists give ANY THOUGHT to what their cultures are STILL DOING TO THOSE SOULS WITH EVERY BURGER THEY GULP DOWN, and every chemical they use, or carbon they emit.

I've NEVER commented on TH-cam EVER -until now. Wow, so simple but so profound ! What you say starting around minute 46 (i.e. ," You have to go in to find the infinite....") is LIFE-CHANGING stuff ! I teach art to juvenile offenders ,mostly in for gang-related violence / drug charges. I'm going to print out that portion and post it on the art room wall . If it can help even a few to change the direction of their lives and be a part of THE GAME (the only ONE worthy of our energy / God-given life force ) instead of chasing after those things that seemingly offer fulfillment and status especially when it's at the expense of others

Dwelled among us. Or: pitched his tent among us.

What makes me twitch is “lead us not into temptation”. Why not helping us to *not* be led into temptation? 🤔

" I felt in my bones, it is not my work". My task right now.

Too much to get my head around. I have autism, a gen Xer from England, diagnosed at age 49, and gender dysphoric to boot. Came to faith in 1987, in the British Charismatic church. Had many breakdowns, spiritual,mental,physical.

One thing I just don't understand about the non-dual mind is: What about evil? At around 29:30 Rohr says that 'everything bears the divine DNA'. But how do we make sense of the evil and darkness in this world? What is sin according to this view? Some things are good and some things are bad. And if someone denies this, then you must maintain that what I just said was wrong, and therefore what I said was 'wrong' or 'bad' and this maintains that some things are good and some are bad.

the events with vespasian/lucius in gerasa took place during the jewish war, so it was _after_ jesus. so, maybe the first readers of marc's gospel knew the story, but jesus' disciples in the early 30ies definitely didn't.

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Rob Bell! Don’t know if you you look at comments but I have to say thank you for giving me hope. I am part of the Lenox Christian Bible students. You talk a lot about life is funny and it’s hard. I appreciate that. A lot. But, a person has a hard time forgetting. Look it up Lenox Bible College in Lenox, MA. Creepy. I had a scholarship to win souls. What do I do. Go into psychology?

Absolutely, you know who you are talking about when you say her name Glennon.

Liked hearing that Genesis 1 is poetic. And the image of protecting the flame is helpful, and to start with protecting our own flame.

So. I experienced a wound as deep as the sea and for over a year swirled in confusion while trying to sort and deconstruct- still left lost standing in ash and rubble unsure how to move anywhere else or what to do with it. We're not Jewish, but have been observing the holidays for a bit. For the Three Weeks before Tisha B'Av, I decided to listen to your Learning to Lament. So good! Thank you so much. It's just what I needed. I was thinking over this appropriate timing for lamentations and how it felt so right and necessary. And then the voice of God told me after that, I needed to look for the Messiah and redemption and I was to, like Christ, pour blood and water out of my side into the situation. ok. But NO! I cried so hard no sound came and no breath could be found. Then from your lament videos I tangentized on to the one about boundaries. When you talked about the giving of ourselves- the breaking of our body and pouring out blood with boundaries for something better and new. It felt so right. The last meal before the fast of Tisha B'Av, I'll eat an egg dipped in ash and then pray, ponder, fast for a new world to spring forth. Thank you. Thank you for all the wisdom and inspiration you share with us.

Thank you so much!! Sometimes some people scripts have been hijacking my life. It's been really refreshing to hear. Thank you so much! :)

Hey Rob, I was going back through your archives and I was so refreshed to hear you talk about this passage - I have told my friends and family about this passage for years, and no one seems to find it as intriguing or important as I do - but to realize I missed this FOUR years ago - I was kicking myself. Uuuuugh. Anyway - thanks for taking the time to talk about such a rich and nuanced moment in 'the story'. It is one of my favorites, if not my fav. Be well good man! Keep going. Keep turning the gem. The next turn is always of interest.

oh no what a sweet interview i smiled all the way through

You are a prophet and I appreciate all that you do

Amazing

These are effing brilliant! 🙌

Rob, you stir my mind with your mindful stirrings. I am grateful for you.

Awa×w×ws@q#÷

#jordanbpeterson have #robbell on your podcast

That's deep, about the drugstore/pharmacy with the blaring lights, and, as Mr. Bell describes, "...the ignorance of what all of creation is doing around it...". Symbolic on so many levels. Something's "off," alright.

Great conversation !

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The burning bush was reframed here. Or was it just said as it, in fact, happened? the lightening of mediation between human, religion and what is going on is gorgeous here.

Listening in 2022, and still a "now word!🙌🏾

Hey rob, is the digital version still available?

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came back to listen to Oh Holy Night <3

I’m a 6 on my Enneagram. Not good, no wonder I’m so fearful and looking out for danger it doesn’t help to have Autism , and discover I am at 50, no wonder I’ve never gotten married.