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Scraping a Hobby Mill Like a Pro: The Table
Watch a DIY 5 axis CNC mill project go pro with the help of an expert scraper.
Marcus runs an all-manual machine shop in the Gold Coast of Australia where he does repair work and specialises in scraping! He reached out to offer help on reconditioning the MH28V 5 axis CNC conversion project, and boy DID he help. This episode is all about fixing up the table of the mill.
Attached Article:
www.machsuper.com/articles/scraping-a-hobby-mill-the-table
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How NOT to Design a 5 Axis CNC
มุมมอง 97Kปีที่แล้ว
Use my DIY 5 axis CNC router as an example of what not to do when making your own. We'll cover the biggest problems that my machine had and how I would fix them. My previous video: th-cam.com/video/nFT4texmPQU/w-d-xo.html Instagram: mach_super Blog: www.machsuper.com/articles/how-not-to-design-a-5-axis-cnc After getting questions on my machine after the first video, I wanted to an...
What are Harmonic Drives and Just How Much Tooth Contact Is There?
มุมมอง 69Kปีที่แล้ว
How does a Harmonic Drive work, and just how much contact is there between the teeth of the splines? They’re great for rotary axes on multi-axis CNC machines and other robotics. Let's take a close look at how the beautiful Harmonic Drive reducer works. Instagram: mach_super Blog: www.machsuper.com Music Credit: Ever Flowing by ItsWatR on Pixabay
DIY Hobby Mill to 5 Axis CNC Conversion | Part 1: The Stand
มุมมอง 18Kปีที่แล้ว
Making a start on the bench top hobby mill to 5 axis CNC conversion; follow along as we look at the design and fabrication of the stand upon which everything will live. My custom 5 axis router: th-cam.com/video/nFT4texmPQU/w-d-xo.html Instagram: mach_super Blog article for this video: www.machsuper.com/articles/pascal-pt1 I also want to give a thank you to all the people who left ...
I Built a Custom 5 Axis CNC Router and Barely Used It
มุมมอง 245Kปีที่แล้ว
I dropped out of video game art school to make RC cars, this homemade 5 axis CNC machine was was part of that plan, I spent $10,000 and 10 months building, then I never really used it much. Hear a bunch nitty gritty details about how I built it and the software I wrote to drive it. COMMENT BELOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT SPECIFIC THINGS. Instagram: mach_super Blog: www.mach...
Introduction to Mach Super
มุมมอง 6Kปีที่แล้ว
Welcome to Mach Super! This introduction will tell you about my S13 Silvia, my machines, and what you can expect to see from me. Instagram: mach_super Blog: www.machsuper.com Do the ol' like and subscribe if you like it. ;) Credits: Music by ComaStudio and FASSounds from Pixabay

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  • @markgoogolplex2572
    @markgoogolplex2572 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent video on scraping. Thank you for your work!

  • @rossh8608
    @rossh8608 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Incredible that you didn’t give up, well done. What are your thoughts on creating a hobbyist 5axis compatible with the carvera air machine that has had a success kickstarter? Would you be interested? I think a lot more people are about to enter the machining space now that machines are more accessible, like what happened in 3D printing. My first thought without knowing much about 5-axis is the space limitations of that particular machine

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for the nice comment mate. I would actually love to make some machines for sale, but I’m not at that stage just yet. Machines like the Carvera are neat little machines that would be great to learn on. Any person who has spent time in machining and given it any serious attention, I think they’ll usually outgrow these machines very quickly. The 5 axis maker is a cool product too, I’ve followed them for a long time now. They seem to have done well in the dentistry clear aligner market, other than that, I’ve not seen them around on the internet much. They’re doing well enough to survive for several years so far though, so that’s good to see. I do have my eyes set on some commercial products though, I just need to stop getting distracted with other things. 🤦‍♂️

  • @nitrozeus6403
    @nitrozeus6403 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would think they would use a Blanchard grinder. The large rotating disk type. With a mag chuck on a carousel.

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don’t think I’ve ever seen a mill table with the circular grind marks of a blanchard. Mine had straight marks running the long axis. Not sure which would be better for the job, but I’ve been told they line up a bunch of them on the one big linear grinder and do them in one operation.

  • @martin-it4jb
    @martin-it4jb 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video. Cant doge the feeling that some talking head clips look color ungraded/too grey colors. Some more contrast and saturation would be nice.

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree, I don’t know what I was thinking with some of the colour choices. I like the idea of a raw, high dynamic range look, but I didn’t pull it off well. I actually bought the camera hours before filming.

  • @nowar9220
    @nowar9220 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why not pay a mold making company to make some molds out of aluminium!? And why not machine the aluminium urself!? That machine would do it fine! Take the 5 axis head off, run it as 3axis so it's more rigid, just take ur time with the aluminium if it's hard to take deep cuts. I just feel like it's sooo silly to spend 10k building a 5axis to make molds without even knowing how molds are made and what material ul be making molds out of.. Just sounds odd Great project tho!

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      For sure it was a very dumb thing to do from that perspective. In truth, that was the reason I gave for making the machine, but the real reason was that I just wanted to try making the machine. And when the time came to use the machine for its purpose, I got bored. I really just want to make CNC machines.

    • @nowar9220
      @nowar9220 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@machsuper I get it, I've done alot of comparably silly things also, regardless beautiful machine! And job well done!!

  • @user-xz7xy8yf4w
    @user-xz7xy8yf4w 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Autism brought me here.

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This program brought to you by autism!

  • @craigywaigy4703
    @craigywaigy4703 หลายเดือนก่อน

    OH DEAR - Let's Scrape for scrapings sake......?! THE ONLY TIME TO SCRAPE ANY WAY/SLIDING SURFACE IS WHERE IT IS UNDER HEAVY LOAD....... This is specifically WHY eg. MILL beds are not scraped but its knee ways and column are.... Scraping is DESIGNED to retain sub-decamicron amounts of way oil IN HYDROSTATIC COMPRESSION(pockets of oil under compression(like a ball SCREW in mechanical terms, for example). .... The reason WHY MILL TABLE SURFACES AREN'T SCRAPED IS BECAUSE YOU WANT AS MUCH STATIC FRICTION(AKA GRIP) UPON ITS SURFACE UNLIKE A WAY(including it's front and rear sides) ! Sorry for being blunt, but human time and energy are precious, and when it's misguided through ignorance, then that's tragic.. BTW The referencing to "Chinese..machines." inferring cheapness, is because we're too cheap(economic means, geographical locale..) to be able to purchase new top quality equipment. If one is on YT seeking knowledge in this field, then it's a given that we are amatuers, and have amatuer(hobby) machines. Thank you China for giving MILLIONS of peeps worldwide the chance to learn and develop their skills(on amatuer machines) which we can improve as do our skills) which serve INCREDIBLY PRACTICAL AND SUSTAINABLE REASONS. Rant over - Signed. A Machine Tool Fitter/Turner(Retired).

  • @marklagana2769
    @marklagana2769 หลายเดือนก่อน

    another key point for why 2 flat surfaces being bolted together need to be flat; it may seem flat and square to the naked eye when in reality it's sitting on 3 or 4 high spots. So you tighten and commision your machine, and after some use and vibration, those high spots disappear introducing backlash and error

    • @marklagana2769
      @marklagana2769 หลายเดือนก่อน

      great video / channel btw!

  • @Spark-Hole
    @Spark-Hole หลายเดือนก่อน

    I doubt if Chinese cast iron is stable enough in long term compare to Japs one. The casting technique, Chinese always cut cost.

  • @dougyt261
    @dougyt261 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would think they have bad to no stress relief process it's then machined flat, then slowly moves and twists out of flat.

  • @jonholzworth4463
    @jonholzworth4463 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I watched all of your videos on this channel tonight. Awesome content. I subscribed and hope there is more to come. And, if you every need advise regarding 3D modeling, feel free to reach out. It's what I do for a living, and I love teaching the skill to others.

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much Jon! I can’t believe I’ve made videos that would draw someone in for an hour or so! What type of 3D modelling? Engineering brep or mesh modelling?

  • @Zebra66
    @Zebra66 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I was building my machine again I would never use steppers. If you need any sort of accuracy forget it... unless you cut super slow. I can almost guarantee that this is the source of his accuracy issues. Not the rigidity (he's cutting plastic and wood...). Looks like he's using 5mm balls screws so he'll have to run the steppers fast just to get moderate speed. Steppers have all their torque at low speed and it drops quickly as speed increases. In other words, unless you cut at a snails pace it doesn't take much to make steppers miss steps and the tool can be a mm (or more) off by the end of the job. That's a lot for molds and patterns that need to fit together. There is a ton of bad advice online but telling everyone to use steppers in forums is the worst. If you're making molds and patterns... like this guy... get servos.

  • @horsthacker9990
    @horsthacker9990 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🤣 outro commect 😂 then i must have autism at highest level.. staying till the end and waiting for more to come at a black screen 🤪

  • @sharkbaitsurfer
    @sharkbaitsurfer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Guys, a termendous amount of work and effort went into that, both from the effort scraping and documenting it - really appreciate that you've shared that knowledge and information - phenomenal job! Subscription worthy!

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheers Sharkbait! It was a lot of work, but I loved doing it all.

  • @kylegoldston
    @kylegoldston 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you try corian countertop material?

  • @87osvald
    @87osvald 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What software did you use to animate the videos showing the toolhead?

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All done in Blender :)

  • @hikolanikola8775
    @hikolanikola8775 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i made a moving table design, and i really have no complaints... i get the most stifnes out of that type of design...

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What did you make the chassis with?

    • @hikolanikola8775
      @hikolanikola8775 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@machsuper A combination of steel profiles , steel bended metal and cast aluminum whereever the rails go to reduce vibration with material combinations.

  • @En1Gm4A
    @En1Gm4A 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi there, thx for the Video, one question: Why useing Steppers with Harmonic drives over servos? is this default design metric for a CNC Machnie and what Actuators where used for x y and z axis? Thx in advance

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      G’day mate, I used steppers because they were cheap and I had no experience with servos. I felt safe that I wouldn’t lose steps because the gear reduction was huge. I had a safety slip mechanism built into the gearbox so if it crashed, the whole harmonic drive would slip in the housing. It worked perfectly when I crashed it one time. It bent the 8mm stainless rod that was in the spindle, but did no damage to the machine.

  • @Unl0gic
    @Unl0gic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very cool animations, what software did you use to generate them?

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks mate. I use Blender for all 3D visuals.

  • @jpjay1584
    @jpjay1584 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what if I need an RPM of 80-500? and lots of torque. 500 is quite a lot for a harmonic drive.

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I’m not sure what to suggest for that other than a two-speed gearbox. Do you need the same torque at all speeds?

    • @jpjay1584
      @jpjay1584 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      more or less, yes. what I realized, I actually need is a direct drive motor. with 20Nm. so I could avoid a drive (even drives are sexy in their appearance.) its for a design project and cost is an issue. I just stumbled over torque motors and direct drive motors that don't need a gear, if the motor is strong enough. thanks for your reply. do you know about Axial Flux motors? @@machsuper

  • @viktorbarsukov2894
    @viktorbarsukov2894 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bmw e vanos uses a Harmonic Drive, i was so surprised when i saw one in real live use.

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh really?! So interesting to imagine one in use in a car.

  • @adammontgomery7980
    @adammontgomery7980 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome production value! Is there a reason to scrape the top of the bed? Seems like the ground surface is just fine because you'll probably be using a vice, which is locally as flat as you need. I understand scraping the bearing surfaces for flatness and allowing the bed to ride hydrodynamically on the way lube; it just feels extra to me.

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can think of a couple reasons. Having a surface that’s out of spec for flatness is out of spec - it’s not good enough. I don’t actually know what the variation was, but it was probably greater than 20um. Still not huge in most applications, but a bad machine is a bad base for good work. Also, without addressing that surface, you can’t be sure that it’s flat enough or that it’s stable. It might be convex and throw off readings of the flat ways. Making sure its flat would give a better surface for all the future work you do with it, and you can have confidence in it.

  • @mikemccormack7056
    @mikemccormack7056 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super quality production and narration! When I've seen tables like that being machined in China, they've typically had 16-24 (or more) lined up to be ground at once. Your center-right high spot might come from one of the huge grinder's own webbed table supports running directly below that part of your table.

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheers Mike. Very interesting suggestion on the webbing. I’d be curious to compare other tables.

  • @wildfox1994
    @wildfox1994 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish I would have 10 grand at 19 to build 5 axis CNC machine

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wish I had 10 grand at 29 to build one now 😅

  • @carneeki
    @carneeki 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Came here (to the channel) for the harmonic drive, stayed for the scraping. As someone else who learned from Marcus it was great to see so many of these concepts again, makes me want to come back and bring my mill table next time.

  • @FreeMind5094
    @FreeMind5094 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All of this effort,time and cost with a plastic vrnoer calipers, wow

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know. Dumb.

  • @KingZeusCLE
    @KingZeusCLE 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well done. I know its not a hard one, but anyone have the model?

  • @KingZeusCLE
    @KingZeusCLE 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well done. Anyone have the model?

  • @Airtight215
    @Airtight215 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1. A “pro” would never get a hobby mill, let alone a trash one. 2. No one worth their labor rate would ever even consider scraping a mill table. It’s as if you just don’t understand...

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Additionally, a pro doesn’t need to watch this video to get their work done. That’s why none are, it’s curious hobbyists, and professionals who like seeing what others are doing with machines that watch this video. It’s entertainment as much as it is education. Thanks for watching ☺️

  • @jacob_90s
    @jacob_90s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Superbly done.

  • @wingez2445
    @wingez2445 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good job

  • @sccolbert
    @sccolbert 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you do the hinge test (what you call the "pivot" test), the hinge/pivot points should be roughly 22% away from the ends. These are the Bessel/Airy points. If your part prints blue along the whole surface, and hinges at those points, you can be reasonably sure that it is flat.

  • @rogeri5743
    @rogeri5743 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like you style. web style

  • @RealLatinGeek
    @RealLatinGeek 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I most likely got this recommended from my history with machining videos but your VFX and aesthetic is stunning, and right up my alley. Beautiful stuff- I've seen proper televised documentaries with worse VFX.

  • @sozonpv
    @sozonpv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome! What software was that animation created in?

  • @josephgeorge495
    @josephgeorge495 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am struggling with machine configuration, please help me

  • @derekrussell9925
    @derekrussell9925 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job

  • @MoritzWeller
    @MoritzWeller 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone completely new to the DIY hobby but affine to 3D visualization I can only express my highest appreciation for both the effort you put into visualizing the 5-axis concepts you implemented as well as the effort you put into the project itself. Very inspiring!

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, it’s really nice to have someone aware of the challenge appreciating the work. Gotta dream big.

  • @boryswwa
    @boryswwa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Even though the result of a project you made didn't turn out to be useful in the area you hoped it would be useful for, what you learnt while making it, will stay with you till the end of your life and potentially make other projects significantly more doable for you. That alone, is orders of magnitude more valuable than the machine you've made. Incredibly impressive project. While on university, I wanted to make a simple 4 DOF robot arm (kinda of what you can now buy in kits these days, but it wasn't the case back then), but thinking about the challenges that would come with kinematics ( really wanted the tool end linear movement approximation) made me abandon the project. You did that as if it was nothing, and way ore than that. Incredible skill. Congratulations!

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely correct. I definitely didn’t take full advantage if what I had once completed, but I am now trying to take full advantage of what I learned. Robot arms are intimidating, aren’t they? I started trying to program a 6 axis arm from scratch one time and I was gradually finding answers, but I never stuck with it long enough to see it through. Too busy. Thank you for the great comment. I’m caught up in starting a completely separate company now, but I’ve got passionate dreams about machines to build in the future that I WILL do.

  • @Narwaro
    @Narwaro 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    From building milling machines professionally: If you can - by any means - make it more rigid, make it more rigid! Make it more rigid until there is no crane that can lift it, no truck that can carry it, no servo that can move its axis, no customer that can pay for it and then back off about 15%.

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hahaha yeah, well said. Rigidity is king in machining.

  • @Narwaro
    @Narwaro 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Back in the day tables and slideways were usually done with a planer. Its very slow by todays standards, but probably as fast as grinding and has no tooling costs and makes flat surfaces with exceptional finishes. Youll notice planed tables by the stripes/lines in the finish

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why do you think they stopped doing it that way?

  • @TerryBecker-bw1vx
    @TerryBecker-bw1vx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's all about the journey and not so much the destination? ; )

  • @stevecarlisle3323
    @stevecarlisle3323 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, thanks. I can only hope that you are using your skills you acquired with designing 5 axis, in your day job.

  • @juliobynight2495
    @juliobynight2495 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Respect ! came across your video, awsome work !

  • @JulianMakes
    @JulianMakes 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just brilliant! subbed clicked the bell etc etc v v v cool man

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you Julian.

  • @johnandersen8999
    @johnandersen8999 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've got a feeling you're going to see some channel growth real soon.

  • @LordFokas
    @LordFokas 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    > Spends 4k on a machine just to make a couple parts for another machine. > Measures produced parts with cheapest plastic calipers available. You may need to get your logic checked there, mate. :p

  • @deepanksr5066
    @deepanksr5066 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you have one of the most useful skills on this planet.

    • @machsuper
      @machsuper 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which skill is that?

    • @deepanksr5066
      @deepanksr5066 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@machsuper the ability to design and manufacture the best type of manufacturing machine.

  • @ml1186
    @ml1186 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome!

  • @escorza_engineerings
    @escorza_engineerings 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video! an autistic guy from France :p